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  <title type="text">ba.food Google Group</title>
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  Bay Area restaurants and eating places.
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  <updated>2010-03-19T16:06:45Z</updated>
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  <author>
  <name>Tony Lima</name>
  <email>tonyli...@att.net</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-19T16:06:45Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/41cc9785957c98b4/57e92a8204cb3726?show_docid=57e92a8204cb3726</id>
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  <title type="text">Re: Expensive wine, tasteless friends (It&#39;s not about tour buses)</title>
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  On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:36:59 -0400, Mark Lipton &lt;br&gt; Thanks for the tips, Mark. We&#39;re always interested in new &lt;br&gt; wineries that are producing wines we like. - Tony
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  <author>
  <name>Dan Abel</name>
  <email>da...@sonic.net</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-19T15:40:43Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/5e3932098f98ce23/e5f0dc2b03832f9c?show_docid=e5f0dc2b03832f9c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/5e3932098f98ce23/e5f0dc2b03832f9c?show_docid=e5f0dc2b03832f9c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Wanna Place Order for Breakfast, Lunch or Dinner Online</title>
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  In article &amp;lt;Xns9D3FE970EAB70ibmsvpalo...@ 216.196.97.131&amp;gt;, &lt;br&gt; You&#39;re funny, Ian. Google is the premier spammer. The only reason &lt;br&gt; they&#39;d want to get rid of spammers using their services, would be to &lt;br&gt; reduce the competition.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>evergene</name>
  <email>everg...@newsguy.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-19T15:31:13Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/41cc9785957c98b4/ab50d14b7a7953ef?show_docid=ab50d14b7a7953ef</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/41cc9785957c98b4/ab50d14b7a7953ef?show_docid=ab50d14b7a7953ef"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Expensive wine, tasteless friends (was re: Ritz Carlton &quot;It&#39;s not liver&quot;)</title>
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  What&#39;s discouraging about environmental protection is the way it &lt;br&gt; becomes just another a sounding board for you to broadcast your moral &lt;br&gt; superiority. Do you not see how similar your posts are to Tim May&#39;s? &lt;br&gt; He&#39;s the smartest man in Watsonville, you&#39;re the smartest man in &lt;br&gt; Berkeley, and neither of you would be much fun to sit next to on a
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Dan Abel</name>
  <email>da...@sonic.net</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-19T15:27:55Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/41cc9785957c98b4/b21ab6c8e2575b44?show_docid=b21ab6c8e2575b44</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/41cc9785957c98b4/b21ab6c8e2575b44?show_docid=b21ab6c8e2575b44"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Expensive wine, tasteless friends</title>
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  In article &amp;lt;87634sbtt6....@panix.com&amp;gt;, Rajappa Iyer &amp;lt;r...@panix.com&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; wrote: &lt;br&gt; Well, I *do* have that reputation on this group, so I need to uphold it &lt;br&gt; here. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;I don&#39;t think that Steve is being hypocritical here. I don&#39;t think that &lt;br&gt; he is advocating that everybody ride winery tour buses, just that if
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  <author>
  <name>Aahz Maruch</name>
  <email>a...@pobox.com</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-19T15:12:54Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/726fca878fca632b/1d40749f01a2b4bb?show_docid=1d40749f01a2b4bb</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/726fca878fca632b/1d40749f01a2b4bb?show_docid=1d40749f01a2b4bb"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Hipsters on food stamps</title>
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  In article &amp;lt;slrnhq5i60.2d5.jul...@adeed.t ele.com&amp;gt;, &lt;br&gt; That doesn&#39;t contradict the point made in the article. I don&#39;t think the &lt;br&gt; article claims that manufacturing has no problems; however, it&#39;s also &lt;br&gt; clear that manufacturing as an economic sector has fewer problems than &lt;br&gt; many people claim (based purely on output) and the claim is that falling
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  <author>
  <name>Steve Pope</name>
  <email>spop...@speedymail.org</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-19T14:46:07Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/41cc9785957c98b4/1193b72f7faabc62?show_docid=1193b72f7faabc62</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/41cc9785957c98b4/1193b72f7faabc62?show_docid=1193b72f7faabc62"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Expensive wine, tasteless friends (was re: Ritz Carlton &quot;It&#39;s not liver&quot;)</title>
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  If planned properly, yes planning for bus transit (including &lt;br&gt; bus parking) is carbon friendly. &lt;br&gt; Where the U.S. falls down is rational, unified planning of &lt;br&gt; land use, housing, and transit, leading to our abnormal &lt;br&gt; high energy burn. That, along with failed health policy &lt;br&gt; and failed pension/retirement policy, are the three main reasons
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  <author>
  <name>Golden California Girls</name>
  <email>gldncag...@aol.com.mil</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-19T14:00:09Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/41cc9785957c98b4/2020954ede76003f?show_docid=2020954ede76003f</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/41cc9785957c98b4/2020954ede76003f?show_docid=2020954ede76003f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Expensive wine, tasteless friends (was re: Ritz Carlton &quot;It&#39;s not liver&quot;)</title>
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  So now you are telling the business owner to pave over enough land in his &lt;br&gt; parking lot to park a dozen tour buses. &lt;br&gt; BTW is that carbon friendly?
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  <author>
  <name>Julian Macassey</name>
  <email>jul...@tele.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-19T13:41:58Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/6344585875ed4edf/6b147a7f338da7c4?show_docid=6b147a7f338da7c4</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/6344585875ed4edf/6b147a7f338da7c4?show_docid=6b147a7f338da7c4"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Wine tour buses</title>
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  Funny you should mention Dismalland. A Frenchman was &lt;br&gt; telling me recently how the whole California wine tasting this &lt;br&gt; was so Disneyfied. How they have fancy buildings, gift shops and &lt;br&gt; fancy signage. It&#39;s not so much about the wine as about the &lt;br&gt; marketing. &lt;br&gt; How many wineriies peddle T-Shirts and baseball caps?
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  <author>
  <name>Ciccio</name>
  <email>frances...@comcast.net</email>
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  <updated>2010-03-19T12:54:11Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/726fca878fca632b/bab10e1ecb1895e3?show_docid=bab10e1ecb1895e3"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Hipsters on food stamps</title>
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  They live with their decisions and take care of themselves. The way &lt;br&gt; millions of people, including myself have done. I&#39;ve been down and &lt;br&gt; out. I didn&#39;t go get food stamps. I took some real shit jobs for shit &lt;br&gt; pay. I severely decreased my standard of living for a time. Then I got &lt;br&gt; back on my feet and moved on.
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  <author>
  <name>Steve Pope</name>
  <email>spop...@speedymail.org</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-19T12:29:58Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/41cc9785957c98b4/0ebfd3d765a81893?show_docid=0ebfd3d765a81893</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/41cc9785957c98b4/0ebfd3d765a81893?show_docid=0ebfd3d765a81893"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Expensive wine, tasteless friends</title>
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  I use public transit of various sorts all the time... the &lt;br&gt; fact that I haven&#39;t been on a wine tour bus is meaningless, &lt;br&gt; yet you are trying to make something out of it. &lt;br&gt; Is this the best you got? &lt;br&gt; Sheesh. &lt;br&gt; Steve
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  <author>
  <name>Rasia Sharma</name>
  <email>rasia.sha...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-19T11:17:02Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/18b30555333c0e75/2155d58665b2e5d9?show_docid=2155d58665b2e5d9</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/18b30555333c0e75/2155d58665b2e5d9?show_docid=2155d58665b2e5d9"/>
  <title type="text">Best Vegetarian Restaurants in India</title>
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  Are you looking for best authentic food in india? If yes, then feel &lt;br&gt; free to visit &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://www.suruchirestaurants.com&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;, a vegetarian &lt;br&gt; restaurant in india where you can get best vegetarian food and recipes &lt;br&gt; of your choice. Here you can get all pujabi, gujrati, jain and &lt;br&gt; rajasthani dishes. It is a destination for the food lovers who look
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  <author>
  <name>Rajappa Iyer</name>
  <email>r...@panix.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-19T08:27:01Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/41cc9785957c98b4/2eafaa1724d2950c?show_docid=2eafaa1724d2950c</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/41cc9785957c98b4/2eafaa1724d2950c?show_docid=2eafaa1724d2950c"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Expensive wine, tasteless friends</title>
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  Um... I&#39;m tempted to ask if you&#39;re being deliberately obtuse... &lt;br&gt; In any case, Steve (who I think is a complete nincomcoop, BTW) makes &lt;br&gt; high sounding statements about carbon footprint and yet admits that he &lt;br&gt; has never ever used a tour bus for visiting a winery... seems to me &lt;br&gt; that he wants to recommend that everyone but himself should follow a
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  <author>
  <name>sf</name>
  <email>s...@geemail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-19T07:20:40Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/41cc9785957c98b4/0d6a0dcc0e30a903?show_docid=0d6a0dcc0e30a903</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/41cc9785957c98b4/0d6a0dcc0e30a903?show_docid=0d6a0dcc0e30a903"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Expensive wine, tasteless friends</title>
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  On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:28:05 +0000 (UTC), spop...@speedymail.org &lt;br&gt; Rewrite: Like water off a non-foie-gras duck&#39;s back.
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>sf</name>
  <email>s...@geemail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-19T07:18:47Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/726fca878fca632b/adfd84dfa8f58d53?show_docid=adfd84dfa8f58d53</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/726fca878fca632b/adfd84dfa8f58d53?show_docid=adfd84dfa8f58d53"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Letting 150 million just go, then moving on</title>
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  Are you volunteering to be the one who makes the decisions, hands out &lt;br&gt; death certificates and does the dirty deed?
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  <author>
  <name>sf</name>
  <email>s...@geemail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2010-03-19T07:13:52Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/6344585875ed4edf/569ed161e34e1d51?show_docid=569ed161e34e1d51</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/browse_thread/thread/6344585875ed4edf/569ed161e34e1d51?show_docid=569ed161e34e1d51"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Wine tour buses</title>
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  Wineries are not telling the tour busses they don&#39;t want the &lt;br&gt; customers, they just don&#39;t want busses clogging their parking lot. &lt;br&gt; *Legitimate* tour operators will not spring 60 people on any winery &lt;br&gt; (no matter how big) without a warning anyway. When they coordinate &lt;br&gt; with the winery - it&#39;s a win win. The winery gets exposure and the
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