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evergene

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May 9, 2013, 10:55:32 AM5/9/13
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The prices at Piqueo's are roughly 30% higher than the prices at my
default Peruvian-style restaurant, Limon. The food at Piqueo's is
approximately 10% better than the food at Limon. Piqueo's is a little
quieter, and the service less hurried, than at Limon (5% better at
Piqueo's). So overall the cost-benefit difference between the two
restaurants is about 15% in Limon's favor.
We had cebiche, grilled baby octopus, a duck confit quesadilla, and
teque�os, billed as shrimp-mozzarella stuffed wontons. All very good.
I'd go back, but only with another $25-off coupon.

Todd Michel McComb

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May 9, 2013, 3:00:22 PM5/9/13
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In article <kscno8to4s75o13qj...@4ax.com>,
evergene <ge...@geeaitcheekaygee.com> wrote:
>So overall the cost-benefit difference between the two restaurants
>is about 15% in Limon's favor.

You're going to have to return many more times in order to firm up
this figure. "About 15%" just doesn't meet the demand for precision
we have here.

sf

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May 9, 2013, 3:32:03 PM5/9/13
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If you want no frills good food without the full bar factor, I stand
behind Esperpento (22nd) and Picaro (16th - just around the corner
from Limon and it has a patio).


--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

Todd Michel McComb

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May 9, 2013, 3:41:32 PM5/9/13
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In article <kmgro6$upa$1...@usenet.stanford.edu>,
Todd Michel McComb <mcc...@medieval.org> wrote:
>"About 15%" just doesn't meet the demand for precision we have
>here.

In light of Al's comment, I'll make a suggestion. Surely there are
others. You could weigh the food on an electronic scale, and of
course the price is already accurate to the penny. This should
yield high enough mathematical precision that no one could take
issue.

evergene

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May 9, 2013, 4:12:29 PM5/9/13
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I've been struggling with this question for a long time. Ten years ago
someone on ba.food asked whether Trader Joe's house label Cabernet
Franc at $4.99 bottle was 2 1/2 times better than Two-Buck Chuck. Not
an easy question; don't forget, computers weren't as powerful then as
they are now. But you ask for precision, so here you go, from November
24, 2003:

evergene wrote:
>The Volker Eisele '98 Cab is eight times better than Two-Buck Chuck.
>But at $30 or $35 a bottle, a bottle of the Volker Eisele costs about
>twice as much as eight bottles of Two-Buck Chuck. Two-Buck Chuck is
>clearly the better value, if you drink eight glasses of it for every
>one glass of Volker Eisele that you'd otherwise have drunk.
>
>However, the Volker Eisele '98 Cab is also twice as good as Miner
>Family 1998 "Oakville" Cab ($60), and exactly as good as Rombauer 1999
>Napa Valley Cab ($36.75), so you can drink a glass of Volker Eisele
>followed by only half a glass of Miner, and then a single but not
>quite full glass of Rombauer, rather than 24 glasses of Two-Buck
>Chuck.
https://groups.google.com/group/ba.food/msg/723cda19aa980063?dmode=source&output=gplain&noredirect
Thread:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups=#!topic/ba.food/yE4YHfHI3jg

I guess that about says it all. Or at least 85% of it all.

Todd Michel McComb

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May 9, 2013, 4:40:27 PM5/9/13
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In article <7m0oo8lo24h2vmnnv...@4ax.com>,
evergene <ge...@geeaitcheekaygee.com> wrote:
>But you ask for precision, so here you go, from November 24, 2003:
>>The Volker Eisele '98 Cab is eight times better than Two-Buck Chuck.
>I guess that about says it all. Or at least 85% of it all.

I'm still confused by this series of remarks. Do these calculations
take place in the discrete space of integers (8X), or are they
rational calculations of something properly in the field of real
numbers?

Al Eisner

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May 9, 2013, 5:00:44 PM5/9/13
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Or perhaps 135% of it all. :)

You clearly need to redo this in light of the price increase for Two-Buck
Chuck.
--

Al Eisner
San Mateo Co., CA

evergene

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May 10, 2013, 3:42:21 PM5/10/13
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Is this a trick question?

evergene

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May 10, 2013, 3:43:31 PM5/10/13
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sf wrote:

>If you want no frills good food without the full bar factor, I stand
>behind Esperpento (22nd) and Picaro (16th - just around the corner
>from Limon and it has a patio).

I haven't been to Picaro, but I've always enjoyed the food, the vibe,
and the prices at Esperpento.

Todd Michel McComb

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May 10, 2013, 4:17:53 PM5/10/13
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In article <nbjqo8hpar16q5c91...@4ax.com>,
evergene <ge...@geeaitcheekaygee.com> wrote:
>Todd Michel McComb wrote:
>>I'm still confused by this series of remarks. Do these calculations
>>take place in the discrete space of integers (8X), or are they
>>rational calculations of something properly in the field of real
>>numbers?
>Is this a trick question?

Of course! But, see, the field these numbers are in will determine
the other valid mathematical operations we can perform on them.
And we need to do this so that we know what someone needs to pay
now to be able to enjoy wine when they're retired, or probably to
know for sure who needs killing. So precision is clearly warranted.

sf

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May 10, 2013, 6:16:58 PM5/10/13
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They are sister restaurants and the menus are almost identical. I
like Esperento because it's just around the corner from Lucca (a
twofer), but Picaro doesn't close in the afternoon and it has that
patio in back - which is a real calling card on a balmy day. :)

evergene

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May 10, 2013, 8:20:07 PM5/10/13
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I can't figure out whether you're focussing on the forest or the
trees, but either way you've raised the bar significantly.

Todd Michel McComb

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May 11, 2013, 5:36:24 PM5/11/13
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In article <h23ro89l7jt0i5ukf...@4ax.com>,
evergene <ge...@geeaitcheekaygee.com> wrote:
>I can't figure out whether you're focussing on the forest or the
>trees, but either way you've raised the bar significantly.

I'm focusing on the sunlight.

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