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evergene

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May 3, 2013, 12:13:17 PM5/3/13
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The French 75 is the cocktail reputed to have won the First World War,
or started the Crimean War, or something. If you modify the French 75
by replacing the gin with pisco, you will have peace in our time.

1 ounce of (gin, in the original French 75) pisco
1/2 ounce of (simple syrup, originally) pineapple gum syrup
1/2 ounce of lemon juice
Shake with ice, strain into a glass, and add
3 or 4 ounces of Champagne or other sparkler

sf

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May 3, 2013, 1:44:07 PM5/3/13
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I love French 75s and all the variations. Here is my current favorite
http://www.creative-culinary.com/oliveas-opelia-cocktail-gin-with-lemon-and-rosemary-simple-syrup/

Ophelia Cocktail – Gin, Rosemary Simple Syrup & Lemon Juice

Prep Time: 5 minutes Cook Time: 45 minutes

Makes: 2 cocktails

INGREDIENTS

For the Rosemary Simple Syrup:

1/4 cup ground rosemary (use an herb grinder, a coffee grinder or a
small food processor)
1/2 cup water
1/2 cup of sugar

For the Cocktail:

1 and 1/2 oz of gin
3/4 oz rosemary syrup
3/4 oz fresh lemon juice (about 1/2 of a lemon, squeezed)
Club Soda*
Sprig of rosemary for garnish

PREPARATION

Bring the water to a boil, add the sugar and rosemary and stir until
the sugar is dissolved. Remove from heat and steep the mixture off
heat for 45 minutes.

Strain the syrup through a fine mesh strainer into a container. (The
accompanying video has a visual reference for the depth of color that
should be achieved; a light golden syrup).

Fill glass with ice.

Add gin, lemon and rosemary simple syrup and stir.

Top with club soda, stir briefly and garnish with a rosemary sprig.

*I like to use lemon flavored sparkling water.

--
Food is an important part of a balanced diet.

tutall

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May 3, 2013, 2:03:26 PM5/3/13
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On May 3, 10:44 am, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:

> I love French 75s and all the variations.  Here is my current favoritehttp://www.creative-culinary.com/oliveas-opelia-cocktail-gin-with-lem...
>
> Ophelia Cocktail – Gin, Rosemary Simple Syrup & Lemon Juice
>
> Prep Time: 5 minutes            Cook Time: 45 minutes


Gads, nobody will ever become drunk on these.


sf

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May 3, 2013, 2:54:22 PM5/3/13
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On Fri, 3 May 2013 11:03:26 -0700 (PDT), tutall <tut...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> On May 3, 10:44 am, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
>
> > I love French 75s and all the variations.  Here is my current favorite http://www.creative-culinary.com/oliveas-opelia-cocktail-gin-with-lem...
> >
> > Ophelia Cocktail – Gin, Rosemary Simple Syrup & Lemon Juice
> >
> > Prep Time: 5 minutes            Cook Time: 45 minutes
>
>
> Gads, nobody will ever become drunk on these.
>

If you're stuck in that kind of fossilized thinking, then you must
have never had a mojito. In any case, no one is stopping you from
switching the bubbly out for champagne - but don't mess with that
rosemary simple syrup. It's wonderful with lemon!

Here's another one for you to try: Super Chavela.

David Arnstein

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May 3, 2013, 4:10:48 PM5/3/13
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I too appreciate a French 75. My recipe is more simple though:

1. Sit at bar.
2. Ask for the drink.
3. Put mouth in gear.

Step 3 happens by itself.

Other summer drinks I love:

Mojito. Must have fresh mint leaves, smashed up.

Bellini. Must have fresh peach puree.

Prosecco. Must be cold and in quantity.

Wine spritzer. I prefer red wine for this one. Keeping it cold without
using ice is a challenge. Drinking it quickly is always an option.

BEER!

Lemonade with basil leaves. I have only experienced this as a non-alcoholic
drink, but it was terrific. I have heard talk of alcoholic drinks served
with these flavors, perhaps one of you could provide information.
--
David Arnstein (00)
arnstei...@pobox.com {{ }}
^^

tutall

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May 3, 2013, 5:34:57 PM5/3/13
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On May 3, 11:54 am, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 3 May 2013 11:03:26 -0700 (PDT), tutall <tut...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:

> > > Ophelia Cocktail – Gin, Rosemary Simple Syrup & Lemon Juice

> > > Prep Time: 5 minutes            Cook Time: 45 minutes

> > Gads, nobody will ever become drunk on these.

> If you're stuck in that kind of fossilized thinking,

Chill Babs, making a joke this:

>>>>>>>>>>Cook Time: 45 minutes <<<<<<<<<<<<<<

If that were "per drink", then......

Peter Lawrence

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May 3, 2013, 5:55:44 PM5/3/13
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How about an nice summer alcoholic drink that's not loaded with sugar!

If I wanted so much sugar in my drinks, I might as well just have Coke, and
save me a pocketful of money.



- Peter


evergene

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May 3, 2013, 7:42:42 PM5/3/13
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Peter Lawrence wrote:
[...]

>How about an nice summer alcoholic drink that's not loaded with sugar!
>
>If I wanted so much sugar in my drinks, I might as well just have Coke, and
>save me a pocketful of money.

How do you figure? I mean, if you prefer the taste of Coke, and the
buzz you get from Coke, to the taste of a French 75, and the buzz you
get from gin, by all means stick with Coke. But Coke's got 7 or 8
times the amount of sugar as this cocktail, calculated as follows:
I believe there are 40 grams / 10 teaspoons of sugar in a 12oz Coke. A
French 75 has at most 5 grams of sugar (and that's probably way high),
if you figure half an ounce of simple syrup has a teaspoon of sugar,
and you add a gram to account for the sugar in the gin and Champagne.
And a French 75 certainly doesn't taste sweet.

sf

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May 3, 2013, 11:41:58 PM5/3/13
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On Fri, 3 May 2013 14:34:57 -0700 (PDT), tutall <tut...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

> On May 3, 11:54 am, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 3 May 2013 11:03:26 -0700 (PDT), tutall <tut...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Chill Babs, making a joke this:

Babs? Okay, you're either a squishy fan or you're an alternate nym
for him. So much for you.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>Cook Time: 45 minutes <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> If that were "per drink", then......

You don't cook, do you? 45 minutes is what it takes to make the
rosemary flavored simple syrup. Even SW can understand that (when
he's not being purposefully stupid). If you can ever make it past the
"time" requirement for the simple syrup... I think you might like it.
If you don't, then you have no idea what lemon and rosemary taste like
together and have no inclination to try.

Hans Klager

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May 3, 2013, 11:53:52 PM5/3/13
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On Fri, 03 May 2013 14:55:44 -0700, Peter Lawrence <humm...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> How about an nice summer alcoholic drink that's not loaded with sugar!

I recommend Suze and a couple of ice cubes.



--
In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
- George Orwell

Peter Lawrence

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May 4, 2013, 4:15:58 AM5/4/13
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On 5/3/13 4:42 PM, evergene wrote:
> Peter Lawrence wrote:
> [...]
>
>> How about an nice summer alcoholic drink that's not loaded with sugar!
>>
>> If I wanted so much sugar in my drinks, I might as well just have Coke, and
>> save me a pocketful of money.
>
> How do you figure?

When I looked at the recipe that Barbara posted about using 1/2 cup of sugar
for Rosemary Simple Syrup recipe, to me that seemed like an awful lot of sugar.

(Besides, I would always drink diet Coke (or Coke Zero) instead of the real
thing.)

But generally speaking, I try to avoid adding any sort of sweeteners to my
alcoholic beverages.


- Peter


sf

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May 4, 2013, 12:01:53 PM5/4/13
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On Sat, 04 May 2013 01:15:58 -0700, Peter Lawrence <humm...@aol.com>
wrote:

> On 5/3/13 4:42 PM, evergene wrote:
> > Peter Lawrence wrote:
> > [...]
> >
> >> How about an nice summer alcoholic drink that's not loaded with sugar!
> >>
> >> If I wanted so much sugar in my drinks, I might as well just have Coke, and
> >> save me a pocketful of money.
> >
> > How do you figure?
>
> When I looked at the recipe that Barbara posted about using 1/2 cup of sugar
> for Rosemary Simple Syrup recipe, to me that seemed like an awful lot of sugar.

Have you never made simple syrup?

evergene

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May 4, 2013, 12:49:46 PM5/4/13
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Peter Lawrence wrote:

>On 5/3/13 4:42 PM, evergene wrote:
>> Peter Lawrence wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>> How about an nice summer alcoholic drink that's not loaded with sugar!

A single cocktail made with 3/4 oz of syrup isn't loaded with sugar.

>>> If I wanted so much sugar in my drinks, I might as well just have Coke, and
>>> save me a pocketful of money.
>>
>> How do you figure?
>
>When I looked at the recipe that Barbara posted about using 1/2 cup of sugar
>for Rosemary Simple Syrup recipe, to me that seemed like an awful lot of sugar.

It is a lot, if you put it all in a single drink. The recipe for syrup
will yield half a cup -- enough for nearly five drinks.

>(Besides, I would always drink diet Coke (or Coke Zero) instead of the real
>thing.)
>
>But generally speaking, I try to avoid adding any sort of sweeteners to my
>alcoholic beverages.

I haven't tried diet soda, but I assume it tastes as sweet as non-diet
soda, and those taste much sweeter to me than any of the cocktails
we're playing with.

Now, a cocktail like a sidecar* served with sugar crystals on the rim
of the glass -- that's a sweet drink. Suh-WEET!

*"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of
arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather
to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, SIDECAR in the other..."
-- Steve Fenwick (emphasis added)

Peter Lawrence

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May 4, 2013, 1:33:22 PM5/4/13
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I've only bought it. Never made it at home.

I'm sure your Rosemary Simply Syrup tastes great.


- Peter


tutall

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May 6, 2013, 1:15:06 AM5/6/13
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On May 3, 8:41 pm, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 3 May 2013 14:34:57 -0700 (PDT), tutall <tut...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On May 3, 11:54 am, sf <s...@geemail.com> wrote:
> > > On Fri, 3 May 2013 11:03:26 -0700 (PDT), tutall <tut...@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
>
> > Chill Babs, making a joke
>

> > >>>>>>>>>>Cook Time: 45 minutes <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>
> > If that were "per drink", then......
>
> You don't cook, do you?

U R very funny, Barb.


Al Eisner

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May 6, 2013, 3:52:28 PM5/6/13
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On Sat, 4 May 2013, evergene wrote:

> *"Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of
> arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather
> to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, SIDECAR in the other..."
> -- Steve Fenwick (emphasis added)

Ahh -- where are the steves of yesteryear?
--

Al Eisner
San Mateo Co., CA

spamtrap1888

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May 6, 2013, 7:55:40 PM5/6/13
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On May 4, 9:49 am, evergene <g...@geeaitcheekaygee.com> wrote:

> I haven't tried diet soda, but I assume it tastes as sweet as non-diet
> soda,

Diet soda only tastes bitter to me. YMMV.

sf

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May 6, 2013, 8:18:41 PM5/6/13
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Interesting! It's overly sweet, IMO.

Charlotte L. Blackmer

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May 8, 2013, 12:53:41 AM5/8/13
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In article <km2ftg$oda$1...@dont-email.me>,
Peter Lawrence <humm...@aol.com> wrote:
>On 5/3/13 4:42 PM, evergene wrote:
>> Peter Lawrence wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>> How about an nice summer alcoholic drink that's not loaded with sugar!
>>>
>>> If I wanted so much sugar in my drinks, I might as well just have Coke, and
>>> save me a pocketful of money.
>>
>> How do you figure?
>
>When I looked at the recipe that Barbara posted about using 1/2 cup of sugar
>for Rosemary Simple Syrup recipe, to me that seemed like an awful lot of sugar.

Simple syrup is a 1:1 sugar:water ratio. Since you do have to boil it up,
making less than about 1/2 cup isn't very practical. It makes extra
syrup.

>(Besides, I would always drink diet Coke (or Coke Zero) instead of the real
>thing.)

A teaspoon or tablespoon of simple syrup is a lot less sugar than a Coke.

>But generally speaking, I try to avoid adding any sort of sweeteners to my
>alcoholic beverages.

I don't usually either, but changing it up isn't the end of the world.


--

sf

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May 8, 2013, 2:20:18 AM5/8/13
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Not sure why this ignorance is continuing... you're smarter than that.

David Arnstein

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May 12, 2013, 8:43:32 PM5/12/13
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Yesterday, I enjoyed a "Rue Cler" at Left Bank Menlo Park. This drink
was listed on a blackboard, so I don't know if it will always be available.
This drink is basil, peach vodka, lime, and possibly some other stuff.
Basil was the dominant flavor. In fact, the drink arrived muddy green
in appearance. A lovely basil leaf floated on the surface. This was
delightful. This did not impress me as a sweet drink at all. Of course,
I did not perform a chemical analysis, I am just stating my subjective
impression.

Today, I enjoyed a Bellini at La Strada in Palo Alto. I have done this
several times already, so perhaps this item will be on the menu for a
while. This drink was prepared with peach puree, as God intended. Very
good. This drink is sweet, because of the peach. Not great but very
good. So I compensated by drinking two of them. The limiting factor here
is the quality of the peaches.

evergene

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May 12, 2013, 10:22:48 PM5/12/13
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David Arnstein wrote:

[...]
>...This drink is sweet, because of the peach. Not great but very
>good. So I compensated by drinking two of them.

I admire your ability to adapt your strategy to the immediate
circumstances.
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