It's enough to turn even me into a dewy-eyed optimist!
Okay, not really, but close.
Rage away,
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It might just be for remodeling or something, but I think this
Noah's is no more.
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: Sign went up a couple days ago that the store is closed. Inside
: looks emptied out, altough all the furniture and the racks behind
: the counter are still there.
: It might just be for remodeling or something, but I think this
: Noah's is no more.
Noah's has filed for bankruptcy. Most of the stores will continue to
operate - for a while. If they don't suddenly discover customer service
they won't be around for long. I won't morn their demise, only their
potential.
Diane Blackman
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> Sign went up a couple days ago that the store is closed. Inside
> looks emptied out, altough all the furniture and the racks behind
> the counter are still there.
>
> It might just be for remodeling or something, but I think this
> Noah's is no more.
A testimony to the quality and character of Jim's Restaurant. It's
taking on all comers and hanging tough.
Jim's? You mean the coffee shop on University Ave.?
That closed down last month.
> : It might just be for remodeling or something, but I think this
> : Noah's is no more.
>
> Noah's has filed for bankruptcy.
Are you joking about Noah's/Einstein's going into bankruptcy?
> Noah's has filed for bankruptcy. Most of the stores will continue to
> operate - for a while. If they don't suddenly discover customer service
> they won't be around for long. I won't morn their demise, only their
> potential.
Ah, I found the bankruptcy information on Yahoo. I suspect they will
restructure and some stores will survive. Of course the poor stockholders
lost everything. Kind of Boston Chicken Planet Hollywood, all over again.
>> Noah's has filed for bankruptcy. Most of the stores will continue to
>> operate - for a while. If they don't suddenly discover customer service
>> they won't be around for long. I won't morn their demise, only their
>> potential.
>
>Ah, I found the bankruptcy information on Yahoo. I suspect they will
>restructure and some stores will survive. Of course the poor stockholders
>lost everything. Kind of Boston Chicken Planet Hollywood, all over again.
Wow, I'm kind of surprised that they filed for bankruptcy, given the fact
that there always seem to be lines of people there. For the curious, here
are several press releases from Einstein's/Noah's:
http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=enbx&script=400&item_id='308'
Nabeel
> blac...@dog-play.com wrote:
> > Noah's has filed for bankruptcy.
down the hatch you go
baked, not boiled, crime in new york
noah's will not rise
--Pat
> Wow, I'm kind of surprised that they filed for bankruptcy, given the fact
> that there always seem to be lines of people there. For the curious, here
> are several press releases from Einstein's/Noah's:
I guess you need to sell a _LOT_ of bagels to pay for the retail space
at the locations they choose. Apparently it was real estate related costs
that did them in.
I used to go to a Noah's near my daughters old pre-school in downtown
San Mateo fairly often but I stopped because the service was so abysmal that
it
was taking forever to get served and I was on the way to work and couldn't
waste that much time. They couldn't understand simple requests and often got
the order wrong. Even though I got the same thing every time I went there,
the
price varied by lunar tides. When Costco started to sell real bagels that
was the
end of Noah's for me. Their bagels were no better than 'Everybody's
Bagels' (or whoever it was) or the Costco bakery bagels (which are only
sporadically available).
I used to drive to Santa Cruz to the Bagelry for bagels and I guess I'll
start
doing that again when I get the craving. Much better than Noah's, Bagel
Works, or House of Bagels. The Bagelry in San Francisco (is it still
open on Polk?) is also good.
Steve
> down the hatch you go
> baked, not boiled, crime in new york
> noah's will not rise
Not a haiku, which is a nature poem, this is a senryu --
an ironic poem about human affairs. And not a bad one.
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:> : It might just be for remodeling or something, but I think this
:> : Noah's is no more.
:>
:> Noah's has filed for bankruptcy.
: Are you joking about Noah's/Einstein's going into bankruptcy?
Well I wasn't joking, but it is entirely possible I'm mistaken. I don't
*usually* misremember soemthing like that, but since I couldn't find
anything to confirm my recollection I'mn no longer certain of my
statement.
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:> Noah's has filed for bankruptcy. Most of the stores will continue to
:> operate - for a while. If they don't suddenly discover customer service
:> they won't be around for long. I won't morn their demise, only their
:> potential.
: Ah, I found the bankruptcy information on Yahoo. I suspect they will
: restructure and some stores will survive. Of course the poor stockholders
: lost everything. Kind of Boston Chicken Planet Hollywood, all over again.
Whew! Thanks for that. I just hate it when people rashly post wild
rumours and I didn't want to be one of them.
Diane Blackman
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Brenda> I know this is totally OT, but do senryu follow the same
Brenda> syllable rules as haiku?
on the world wide web
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go to snap dot com
Or www.m-w.com.
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Who didn't get the jest or the mood.
She now knows her source,
And types it with force,
And now she thinks better of the brood.
I was never much of a poet.
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:> down the hatch you go
:> baked, not boiled, crime in new york
:> noah's will not rise
: Not a haiku, which is a nature poem, this is a senryu --
: an ironic poem about human affairs. And not a bad one.
Long boards slide into brick oven
rough, boiled, baked by maple fire
Bagels that are real.
( St Viateur Bagel in Montreal Canada [ for the orthodox ] )
( Fairmount Bagel in Montreal Canada [ for the unorthodox ] )
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Apparently, bagels from the mysterious East Coast are different
from ours (wonder what my Jewish ancestors in Nebraska and Texas
ate?). When I was a teenager, I made bagels a couple of times,
using different recipes. One had you boil the bagels first, then
bake. The other reversed the process.
Nancy
: Apparently, bagels from the mysterious East Coast are different
: from ours (wonder what my Jewish ancestors in Nebraska and Texas
: ate?). When I was a teenager, I made bagels a couple of times,
Those would be the notorious outlaws Seder Sam and the
Chutzpah Kid? As to what they ate, the cowboy staples of
beans and bacon present at least one interesting problem
and I'm not sure that cattle drive road-kill is kosher
( probably not in fact ).
: using different recipes. One had you boil the bagels first, then
: bake. The other reversed the process.
Well, the canonical order is boil, then bake and that is the
order in which the process occurs in both the orthodox and
unorthodox bagel bakeries in Montreal. The denizens of either
type of place wouldn't agree on much else but on that point they
would be unanimous.
" : Ah, I found the bankruptcy information on Yahoo. I suspect they will
" : restructure and some stores will survive. Of course the poor stockholders
" : lost everything. Kind of Boston Chicken Planet Hollywood, all over again.
I can't feel particularly sorry. Noah Alper created a nice little bagel
company. He seemed to treat his employees fairly well. At the time he
started, people stuck with him, unlike the employees of lots of these fast
food places. Then, he decided to sell the company and become a rabbi.
The buyers seemed determined to McDonaldize the place. Morale plummeted,
staff turnover rose so high I remember going into one store and seeing new
employees every few *days*. In short, the Einstein company ruined Noah's.
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