CBS Expanding HD Radio Offerings in Orlando, West Palm, Tampa, and San Diego (with content from New York, L.A., Boston, and San Diego) as HD reaches critical mass.
From: Dave Barnett <dave.dbarnet...@SPAMgmail.com>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:30:16 -0800
Local: Thurs, Nov 5 2009 9:30 am
Subject: Re: CBS Expanding HD Radio Offerings in Orlando, West Palm, Tampa, and San Diego (with content from New York, L.A., Boston, and San Diego) as HD reaches critical mass.
> "From its inception, CBS Radio has embraced HD Radio and aggressively > moved to upgrade our stations with this forward-thinking technology," > said CBS Radio VP/Programming Chris Oliviero. "Digital radio has > afforded the industry a way to expand its audience and increase brand > awareness, while giving listeners unmatched sound quality. We're > thrilled to expose our best in class stations to like-minded audiences > in cities across the county."
I actually have to applaud CBS for this idea. If you read the link, what they've essentially done is to establish out-of-market translators for these signals. LA listeners get a San Diego station & vice-versa. The New York sports fan get their home station after they retire to Florida. It keeps the advertising dollars in the right place (for national spots at least) and provides a very small increase in cume, tho probably not as much as webcasting or making your signal available to a cell phone. It might sound terrible with cascaded compression and all, but it'll be a great novelty for the sports fan in Florida.
Subject: Re: CBS Expanding HD Radio Offerings in Orlando, West Palm, Tampa, and San Diego (with content from New York, L.A., Boston, and San Diego) as HD reaches critical mass.
In article <hctuog$u9...@news.eternal-september.org>, sfdavidka...@yahoo.com (David Kaye) wrote:
> You're trying to give this impression that CBS (aka Westinghouse, aka old > Viacom) is unstable. They've kept news on KFWB for 40 years and are only now > changing it because rating have begun to sink. They've kept KCBS, KNX, > KCBS-FM (in LA), KLLC, WCBS-FM, WCBS, KMOX, and all their other powerhouse > market leaders in very consistent formats for decades.
How long ago was "Movin'" KFRC? How long ago did they still have the legendary KFRC at 610? How many formats have been on 1550 in the past five years? 106.9? 99.7? Did you know that as we speak, 99.7 is undergoing "adjustment" by some programming genius?
> CBS appears to be the only major broadcaster with any sense these days. WABC > keeps changing its lineup. Citadel keeps losing its syndicated talk shows > either to Premiere or indie distribution. Cumulus is off the map entirely.
What? I just got out of a meeting discussing the next five years of the company I work for. I don't know anyone more stable than this place!
> I mean, heck, I'd love to love Citadel. I'd prefer (as Sean Hannity says) > their "left-leaning politics", but Citadel is just not very stable these > days.
What's unstable about it? There has been less carnage at the local Citadel stations than in any other cluster.
-- John Higdon +1 408 ANdrews 6-4400 AT&T-Free At Last
Subject: Re: CBS Expanding HD Radio Offerings in Orlando, West Palm, Tampa, and San Diego (with content from New York, L.A., Boston, and San Diego) as HD reaches critical mass.
John Higdon <hi...@kome.com> wrote: >How long ago was "Movin'" KFRC?
The oldies didn't work. They gave it a long trial on 99.7 and finally dropped it. They tried it again just to be sure on 106.9 and it didn't do any better, so they dropped it again.
>How long ago did they still have the >legendary KFRC at 610?
The "legendary KFRC" went out of business when RKO General sold it eons ago. Oldies KFRC was not legendary in any way, shape, or form.
>How many formats have been on 1550 in the past >five years?
Uh, one? They experimented with podcasting and it didn't work. It was an innovative idea, but people just weren't into it. It seems to work on TV (Current TV) but not on radio. Who knew?
>> CBS appears to be the only major broadcaster with any sense these days. [....] >What? I just got out of a meeting discussing the next five years of the >company I work for. I don't know anyone more stable than this place!
Your company is NOT a major broadcaster.
-- "You're in probably the wickedest, most corrupt city, most Godless city in America." -- Fr Mullen, "San Francisco"
Subject: Re: CBS Expanding HD Radio Offerings in Orlando, West Palm, Tampa, and San Diego (with content from New York, L.A., Boston, and San Diego) as HD reaches critical mass.
Subject: Re: CBS Expanding HD Radio Offerings in Orlando, West Palm, Tampa, and San Diego (with content from New York, L.A., Boston, and San Diego) as HD reaches critical mass.
John Higdon <hi...@kome.com> wrote: >No, but it is a quality broadcaster, which is what interests me and why >I continue to work there.
But once again, that wasn't my point. My point was that CBS appears to be the only major broadcaster actually running its stations properly, which more than likely accounts for the upsurge in its stock recently.
-- "You're in probably the wickedest, most corrupt city, most Godless city in America." -- Fr Mullen, "San Francisco"
Subject: Re: CBS Expanding HD Radio Offerings in Orlando, West Palm, Tampa, and San Diego (with content from New York, L.A., Boston, and San Diego) as HD reaches critical mass.
> SMS wrote: > > and the opinions of >> purist radio engineers that are terrified that HD Radio will impact the >> quality of analog FM (in fact the FCC has not received any complaints >> from listeners within the protected contour of analog FM stations.
> Thanks for recognizing us. Yes, that is my opinion. It is also > apparently the opinion of NPR..
Apparently NOT, NPR is going full steam ahead with HD.
No participants said they would turn off the radio.
Subject: Re: CBS Expanding HD Radio Offerings in Orlando, West Palm, Tampa, and San Diego (with content from New York, L.A., Boston, and San Diego) as HD reaches critical mass.
Subject: Re: CBS Expanding HD Radio Offerings in Orlando, West Palm, Tampa, and San Diego (with content from New York, L.A., Boston, and San Diego) as HD reaches critical mass.
Dave Barnett wrote: > SMS wrote: > > and the opinions of >> purist radio engineers that are terrified that HD Radio will impact >> the quality of analog FM (in fact the FCC has not received any >> complaints from listeners within the protected contour of analog FM >> stations.
> Thanks for recognizing us. Yes, that is my opinion. It is also > apparently the opinion of NPR.
It isn't NPR's opinion, at least not any more. The concerns have been mitigated and a compromise reached.
This is excellent news for all the stakeholders including the listening public, NPR, iBiquity, the FCC, the NAB, equipment manufacturers, and the radio stations. Also good news for broadcast engineers, since the power boost pretty much assures the success of HD Radio so nearly every holdout FM station will be adding HD.
So go have glass of champagne with Higdon to celebrate digital radio finally coming to the U.S. in a big way. Look for "HDRadioFarce" crying in his beer.
Subject: Re: CBS Expanding HD Radio Offerings in Orlando, West Palm, Tampa, and San Diego (with content from New York, L.A., Boston, and San Diego) as HD reaches critical mass.
> > SMS wrote: > > > and the opinions of > >> purist radio engineers that are terrified that HD Radio will impact the > >> quality of analog FM (in fact the FCC has not received any complaints > >> from listeners within the protected contour of analog FM stations.
> > Thanks for recognizing us. Yes, that is my opinion. It is also > > apparently the opinion of NPR..
> Apparently NOT, NPR is going full steam ahead with HD.
> No participants said they would turn off the radio.
"NPR Partners with Livio for Internet Radio Device"
"In addition, local stations, having already developed expensive secondary programming for their HD stations that nobody listens to, are excited to have another outlet for that programming. They see this as a great salvation from the HD experience, because they’ve already invested that money, and everything that they’re putting on their secondary [HD] channels, that their audience isn’t able to hear either because of the antenna problems with HD, their location, or because they don’t want to invest in HD radio, said Sopato. All of those secondary streams are on the web and on this radio. Now, they don’t have to tell their audience, 'go get an HD Radio.'”
Subject: Re: CBS Expanding HD Radio Offerings in Orlando, West Palm, Tampa, and San Diego (with content from New York, L.A., Boston, and San Diego) as HD reaches critical mass.
> Dave Barnett wrote: > > SMS wrote: > > > and the opinions of > >> purist radio engineers that are terrified that HD Radio will impact > >> the quality of analog FM (in fact the FCC has not received any > >> complaints from listeners within the protected contour of analog FM > >> stations.
> > Thanks for recognizing us. Yes, that is my opinion. It is also > > apparently the opinion of NPR.
> It isn't NPR's opinion, at least not any more. The concerns have been > mitigated and a compromise reached.
> This is excellent news for all the stakeholders including the listening > public, NPR, iBiquity, the FCC, the NAB, equipment manufacturers, and > the radio stations. Also good news for broadcast engineers, since the > power boost pretty much assures the success of HD Radio so nearly every > holdout FM station will be adding HD.
> So go have glass of champagne with Higdon to celebrate digital radio > finally coming to the U.S. in a big way. Look for "HDRadioFarce" crying > in his beer.
"Warp Factor 6, Mr. Scott"
"To wit, how many existing installations will have sufficient headroom to implement the increase without significant retooling of transmission hardware?.. Some simply won't make it with their existing transmitters, and plant cooling capacity will also have to be bumped up along with electrical power mains service, and back-up generating plant output... Those using high level combining schemes will face similar issues, as reject loads, digital transmitters, etc., will all have to be upsized... One thing's for certain: approval of a 6dB HD digital boost will mean lots of extra hours, as managers and owners task their engineers with delivering a wee bit more digital drive without melting down already overheated corporate budgets. For many, actually making it happen is likely to be an agonizing process."
Subject: Re: CBS Expanding HD Radio Offerings in Orlando, West Palm, Tampa, and San Diego (with content from New York, L.A., Boston, and San Diego) as HD reaches critical mass.
> Dave Barnett wrote: > > SMS wrote: > > ?> and the opinions of > >> purist radio engineers that are terrified that HD Radio will impact > >> the quality of analog FM (in fact the FCC has not received any > >> complaints from listeners within the protected contour of analog FM > >> stations.
> > Thanks for recognizing us. ?Yes, that is my opinion. ?It is also > > apparently the opinion of NPR.
> It isn't NPR's opinion, at least not any more. The concerns have been > mitigated and a compromise reached.
> This is excellent news for all the stakeholders including the listening > public, NPR, iBiquity, the FCC, the NAB, equipment manufacturers, and > the radio stations. Also good news for broadcast engineers, since the > power boost pretty much assures the success of HD Radio so nearly every > holdout FM station will be adding HD.
> So go have glass of champagne with Higdon to celebrate digital radio > finally coming to the U.S. in a big way. Look for "HDRadioFarce" crying > in his beer. >>"Warp Factor 6, Mr. Scott"
In a development that could vastly improve HD Radio signal reception and propel the digital radio service forward, an agreement has been reached for an HD power increase. It would give all HD FMs a four-fold power hike, but most stations could get an even BIGGER bump.
Subject: Re: CBS Expanding HD Radio Offerings in Orlando, West Palm, Tampa, and San Diego (with content from New York, L.A., Boston, and San Diego) as HD reaches critical mass.
> > SMS wrote: > > > and the opinions of > >> purist radio engineers that are terrified that HD Radio will impact the > >> quality of analog FM (in fact the FCC has not received any complaints > >> from listeners within the protected contour of analog FM stations.
> > Thanks for recognizing us. Yes, that is my opinion. It is also > > apparently the opinion of NPR..
> Apparently NOT, NPR is going full steam ahead with HD.
> No participants said they would turn off the radio.
"NPR Partners with Livio for Internet Radio Device"
see, this is why you bug people.
someone refutes a statement...and then you spam with article that is not even related to the points made
this is why when people see your blog, they quickly deduce what a knucklehead you are.
can't have a decent discussion without reverting to your cut/paste/spam?
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