I have been searching for what I thought would be an easy thing to find, but which in reality seems to be a lot more difficult to find than I would have thought. If any of you have any product suggestions then please feel free to share, as so far (other than cumbersome "work-arounds" or "Rube Goldberg" type solutions) I am coming-up empty-handed. Perhaps I am just searching incorrectly; I know "how" I want it to work, but am not sure "what" to look for to obtain that!
Basically, I wanted a simple no-brainer "black-box" that I could upload a single hi-res graphic image to (like a png or bmp file), step back, and have it reliably output that image without any prompting/controlling so long as it has power applied to it. Kind of like the Leitch cover-slide boxes that I used to use, back when I worked in the television broadcast side of things. Except now I want one that outputs a high-res image (say, 1280 X 768) in HDMI or DVI format, instead of composite.
However, I cannot seem to locate anything this simple. There are of course work-arounds (like multimedia players), however I do not want anything that I have to issue commands to or control. I simply want the image there whenever it is needed. We are using this image (it will be a periodic table, actually) in one of our new auditorium installations. The Professor can show this slide whenever the projector is on (and I did consider using the "user defined" image function on the projector, however it accepts only low-res images that end-up looking horrible when displayed). I am then routing this image through a Crestron MD-8X8 matrix switcher, to the projector.
If any of you have any suggestions I would be very grateful!
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Mr. Hal Dalzell
Senior Technologist - Electronics
CETL Media Services
University of New Brunswick
Interesting question. A lot of projectors can take a USB stick as an
input. I've never used that feature, myself, so don't believe what
I'm about to say until you try it yourself.
Could you put your image on a USB key that's plugged directly into the
proj as either an image file or PPT presentation (whatever format the
proj wants). Then call up the periodic table periodically by
switching sources. It's a bit of a work-around, but your AMX,
Crestron, or Extron systems could be programmed w/ a PT button that
switches to the ISB source.
My two cents (Canadian).
Keith Mills
1-403-816-1008
On 2012-05-28, at 13:54, "Halton Dalzell" <hdalz...@unb.ca> wrote:
> I have been searching for what I thought would be an easy thing to
> find, but which in reality seems to be a lot more difficult to find
> than I would have thought. If any of you have any product
> suggestions then please feel free to share, as so far (other than
> cumbersome "work-arounds" or "Rube Goldberg" type solutions) I am
> coming-up empty-handed. Perhaps I am just searching incorrectly; I
> know "how" I want it to work, but am not sure "what" to look for to
> obtain that!
> Basically, I wanted a simple no-brainer "black-box" that I could
> upload a single hi-res graphic image to (like a png or bmp file),
> step back, and have it reliably output that image without any
> prompting/controlling so long as it has power applied to it. Kind
> of like the Leitch cover-slide boxes that I used to use, back when I
> worked in the television broadcast side of things. Except now I
> want one that outputs a high-res image (say, 1280 X 768) in HDMI or
> DVI format, instead of composite.
> However, I cannot seem to locate anything this simple. There are
> of course work-arounds (like multimedia players), however I do not
> want anything that I have to issue commands to or control. I simply
> want the image there whenever it is needed. We are using this
> image (it will be a periodic table, actually) in one of our new
> auditorium installations. The Professor can show this slide
> whenever the projector is on (and I did consider using the "user
> defined" image function on the projector, however it accepts only
> low-res images that end-up looking horrible when displayed). I am
> then routing this image through a Crestron MD-8X8 matrix switcher,
> to the projector.
> If any of you have any suggestions I would be very grateful!
> Thanks in advance,
> Regards,
> Mr. Hal Dalzell
> Senior Technologist - Electronics
> CETL Media Services
> University of New Brunswick
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Sent: May 28, 2012 4:20 PM
To: av-1@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [av-1] Looking for an HDMI or DVI "slide store" device...
Interesting question. A lot of projectors can take a USB stick as an input. I've never used that feature, myself, so don't believe what I'm about to say until you try it yourself.
Could you put your image on a USB key that's plugged directly into the proj as either an image file or PPT presentation (whatever format the proj wants). Then call up the periodic table periodically by switching sources. It's a bit of a work-around, but your AMX, Crestron, or Extron systems could be programmed w/ a PT button that switches to the ISB source.
My two cents (Canadian).
Keith Mills
1-403-816-1008
On 2012-05-28, at 13:54, "Halton Dalzell" <hdalz...@unb.ca> wrote:
> Hello all,
> I have been searching for what I thought would be an easy thing to > find, but which in reality seems to be a lot more difficult to find
> than I would have thought. If any of you have any product
> suggestions then please feel free to share, as so far (other than > cumbersome "work-arounds" or "Rube Goldberg" type solutions) I am > coming-up empty-handed. Perhaps I am just searching incorrectly; I > know "how" I want it to work, but am not sure "what" to look for to > obtain that!
> Basically, I wanted a simple no-brainer "black-box" that I could > upload a single hi-res graphic image to (like a png or bmp file), step > back, and have it reliably output that image without any
> prompting/controlling so long as it has power applied to it. Kind
> of like the Leitch cover-slide boxes that I used to use, back when I > worked in the television broadcast side of things. Except now I want > one that outputs a high-res image (say, 1280 X 768) in HDMI or DVI > format, instead of composite.
> However, I cannot seem to locate anything this simple. There are
> of course work-arounds (like multimedia players), however I do not > want anything that I have to issue commands to or control. I simply
> want the image there whenever it is needed. We are using this
> image (it will be a periodic table, actually) in one of our new > auditorium installations. The Professor can show this slide whenever > the projector is on (and I did consider using the "user defined" image > function on the projector, however it accepts only
> low-res images that end-up looking horrible when displayed). I am
> then routing this image through a Crestron MD-8X8 matrix switcher, to > the projector.
> If any of you have any suggestions I would be very grateful!
> Thanks in advance,
> Regards,
> Mr. Hal Dalzell
> Senior Technologist - Electronics
> CETL Media Services
> University of New Brunswick
We often set static images we need in a classroom or lectures hall as the computer wallpaper. Assuming you have a resident PC, eliminate any unnecessary icons/shortcuts and arrange the others where they will allow complete viewing of the chart.
Ernie Bailey, CTS
Director of Audiovisual Services
University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences
Voice: 501.686.5556
Mobile: 501.590.9628
Fax: 501.686.8352
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Sent: Monday, May 28, 2012 2:56 PM
To: av-1@googlegroups.com
Subject: [av-1] Looking for an HDMI or DVI "slide store" device...
Hello all,
I have been searching for what I thought would be an easy thing to find, but which in reality seems to be a lot more difficult to find than I would have thought. If any of you have any product suggestions then please feel free to share, as so far (other than cumbersome "work-arounds" or "Rube Goldberg" type solutions) I am coming-up empty-handed. Perhaps I am just searching incorrectly; I know "how" I want it to work, but am not sure "what" to look for to obtain that!
Basically, I wanted a simple no-brainer "black-box" that I could upload a single hi-res graphic image to (like a png or bmp file), step back, and have it reliably output that image without any prompting/controlling so long as it has power applied to it. Kind of like the Leitch cover-slide boxes that I used to use, back when I worked in the television broadcast side of things. Except now I want one that outputs a high-res image (say, 1280 X 768) in HDMI or DVI format, instead of composite.
However, I cannot seem to locate anything this simple. There are of course work-arounds (like multimedia players), however I do not want anything that I have to issue commands to or control. I simply want the image there whenever it is needed. We are using this image (it will be a periodic table, actually) in one of our new auditorium installations. The Professor can show this slide whenever the projector is on (and I did consider using the "user defined" image function on the projector, however it accepts only low-res images that end-up looking horrible when displayed). I am then routing this image through a Crestron MD-8X8 matrix switcher, to the projector.
If any of you have any suggestions I would be very grateful!
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Mr. Hal Dalzell
Senior Technologist - Electronics
CETL Media Services
University of New Brunswick
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The Extron Graphic Still Store is analog only, and in my opinion, over priced. You might want to look at digital media players designed for signage. They're designed to pump out their signal 24/7. Brightsign has a line of players that play content from an SD card and can retrieve content updates on a schedule from a specified location on your network. You park the updates in the specified location and the player updates on schedule. Or you just swap the SD card. I have some of these on order, so can't vouch personally for them yet, but it sounds like it would do what you need. Their most basic model is only $250 and has both HDMI and VGA output. More advanced units can be updated via USB. There were a plethora of other players at Infocomm.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: av-1@googlegroups.com [mailto:av-1@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Keith Mills
> Sent: May 28, 2012 4:20 PM
> To: av-1@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [av-1] Looking for an HDMI or DVI "slide store" device...
> Interesting question. A lot of projectors can take a USB stick as an input. I've never used that feature, myself, so don't believe what I'm about to say until you try it yourself.
> Could you put your image on a USB key that's plugged directly into the proj as either an image file or PPT presentation (whatever format the proj wants). Then call up the periodic table periodically by switching sources. It's a bit of a work-around, but your AMX, Crestron, or Extron systems could be programmed w/ a PT button that switches to the ISB source.
> My two cents (Canadian).
> Keith Mills
> 1-403-816-1008
> On 2012-05-28, at 13:54, "Halton Dalzell" <hdalz...@unb.ca> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I have been searching for what I thought would be an easy thing to >> find, but which in reality seems to be a lot more difficult to find
>> than I would have thought. If any of you have any product
>> suggestions then please feel free to share, as so far (other than >> cumbersome "work-arounds" or "Rube Goldberg" type solutions) I am >> coming-up empty-handed. Perhaps I am just searching incorrectly; I >> know "how" I want it to work, but am not sure "what" to look for to >> obtain that!
>> Basically, I wanted a simple no-brainer "black-box" that I could >> upload a single hi-res graphic image to (like a png or bmp file), step >> back, and have it reliably output that image without any
>> prompting/controlling so long as it has power applied to it. Kind
>> of like the Leitch cover-slide boxes that I used to use, back when I >> worked in the television broadcast side of things. Except now I want >> one that outputs a high-res image (say, 1280 X 768) in HDMI or DVI >> format, instead of composite.
>> However, I cannot seem to locate anything this simple. There are
>> of course work-arounds (like multimedia players), however I do not >> want anything that I have to issue commands to or control. I simply
>> want the image there whenever it is needed. We are using this
>> image (it will be a periodic table, actually) in one of our new >> auditorium installations. The Professor can show this slide whenever >> the projector is on (and I did consider using the "user defined" image >> function on the projector, however it accepts only
>> low-res images that end-up looking horrible when displayed). I am
>> then routing this image through a Crestron MD-8X8 matrix switcher, to >> the projector.
>> If any of you have any suggestions I would be very grateful!
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Regards,
>> Mr. Hal Dalzell
>> Senior Technologist - Electronics
>> CETL Media Services
>> University of New Brunswick
We struggled with this issues a while back, also with a periodic table. The professors solution was to record the periodic table to DVD, and then just leave it playing all the time on repeat. Worked, but we still wanted better.
Our solution, which has been working well for a couple years now, was to take an old PC tower (everyone has one of those laying around..) and set the desktop background to the required periodic table. We removed all the icons, hid the task bar, set the PC to auto start if there is a power failure, turned off screen savers, and can easily control the resolution to optimize the picture quality. Also, the PC is not on the network and has all updates turned off. I think it's still running Windows XP as well. All in all it was a no cost solution, since the PC was heading to surplus eventually.
Tim Cichos CTS, DMC-E
Lead A/V Systems Engineer
University of Notre Dame
115 DeBartolo Hall - Room 230
Notre Dame IN 46556
574.631.4854
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To: av-1@googlegroups.com
Subject: [av-1] Looking for an HDMI or DVI "slide store" device...
Hello all,
I have been searching for what I thought would be an easy thing to find, but which in reality seems to be a lot more difficult to find than I would have thought. If any of you have any product suggestions then please feel free to share, as so far (other than cumbersome "work-arounds" or "Rube Goldberg" type solutions) I am coming-up empty-handed. Perhaps I am just searching incorrectly; I know "how" I want it to work, but am not sure "what" to look for to obtain that!
Basically, I wanted a simple no-brainer "black-box" that I could upload a single hi-res graphic image to (like a png or bmp file), step back, and have it reliably output that image without any prompting/controlling so long as it has power applied to it. Kind of like the Leitch cover-slide boxes that I used to use, back when I worked in the television broadcast side of things. Except now I want one that outputs a high-res image (say, 1280 X 768) in HDMI or DVI format, instead of composite.
However, I cannot seem to locate anything this simple. There are of course work-arounds (like multimedia players), however I do not want anything that I have to issue commands to or control. I simply want the image there whenever it is needed. We are using this image (it will be a periodic table, actually) in one of our new auditorium installations. The Professor can show this slide whenever the projector is on (and I did consider using the "user defined" image function on the projector, however it accepts only low-res images that end-up looking horrible when displayed). I am then routing this image through a Crestron MD-8X8 matrix switcher, to the projector.
If any of you have any suggestions I would be very grateful!
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Mr. Hal Dalzell
Senior Technologist - Electronics
CETL Media Services
University of New Brunswick
I love seeing old hardware re-utilized for things like this, but power consumption shouldn't be ignored, particularly when something will run 24/7, or even 8/5. The digital media players I mentioned use a max of 15 watts. I don't know how much power an old PC will draw when just idling on the desktop, but it's likely to be considerably more than that. A good solution if there's no spending money, but the actual cost is being shifted rather than saved. Highlighting this might be enough to get funds for the lower-power solution.
Harry
******************************
Harry Thomas
Educational Technologies
Naval Postgraduate School
*******************************
On May 29, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Tim Cichos wrote:
We struggled with this issues a while back, also with a periodic table. The professors solution was to record the periodic table to DVD, and then just leave it playing all the time on repeat. Worked, but we still wanted better.
Our solution, which has been working well for a couple years now, was to take an old PC tower (everyone has one of those laying around..) and set the desktop background to the required periodic table. We removed all the icons, hid the task bar, set the PC to auto start if there is a power failure, turned off screen savers, and can easily control the resolution to optimize the picture quality. Also, the PC is not on the network and has all updates turned off. I think it's still running Windows XP as well.
All in all it was a no cost solution, since the PC was heading to surplus eventually.
Tim Cichos CTS, DMC-E
Lead A/V Systems Engineer
University of Notre Dame
115 DeBartolo Hall - Room 230
Notre Dame IN 46556
574.631.4854
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To: av-1@googlegroups.com<mailto:av-1@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [av-1] Looking for an HDMI or DVI "slide store" device...
Hello all,
I have been searching for what I thought would be an easy thing to find, but which in reality seems to be a lot more difficult to find than I would have thought. If any of you have any product suggestions then please feel free to share, as so far (other than cumbersome "work-arounds" or "Rube Goldberg" type solutions) I am coming-up empty-handed. Perhaps I am just searching incorrectly; I know "how" I want it to work, but am not sure "what" to look for to obtain that!
Basically, I wanted a simple no-brainer "black-box" that I could upload a single hi-res graphic image to (like a png or bmp file), step back, and have it reliably output that image without any prompting/controlling so long as it has power applied to it. Kind of like the Leitch cover-slide boxes that I used to use, back when I worked in the television broadcast side of things. Except now I want one that outputs a high-res image (say, 1280 X 768) in HDMI or DVI format, instead of composite.
However, I cannot seem to locate anything this simple. There are of course work-arounds (like multimedia players), however I do not want anything that I have to issue commands to or control. I simply want the image there whenever it is needed. We are using this image (it will be a periodic table, actually) in one of our new auditorium installations. The Professor can show this slide whenever the projector is on (and I did consider using the "user defined" image function on the projector, however it accepts only low-res images that end-up looking horrible when displayed). I am then routing this image through a Crestron MD-8X8 matrix switcher, to the projector.
If any of you have any suggestions I would be very grateful!
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Mr. Hal Dalzell
Senior Technologist - Electronics
CETL Media Services
University of New Brunswick
No offense folks, but some of the solutions sound like the story of NASA
spending a ton of money on a zero gravity pen, while the Russian space
program just used a pencil.
I believe in our Chem. classrooms the Periodic table was painted on the wall,
and an axillary projection screen was placed in front of it. When the tables
needs to be hidden, the screen comes down.
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From: av-1@googlegroups.com on behalf of Halton Dalzell
Sent: Mon 5/28/2012 2:55 PM
To: av-1@googlegroups.com
Subject: [av-1] Looking for an HDMI or DVI "slide store" device...
Hello all,
I have been searching for what I thought would be an easy thing to find, but
which in reality seems to be a lot more difficult to find than I would have
thought. If any of you have any product suggestions then please feel free
to share, as so far (other than cumbersome "work-arounds" or "Rube Goldberg"
type solutions) I am coming-up empty-handed. Perhaps I am just searching
incorrectly; I know "how" I want it to work, but am not sure "what" to look
for to obtain that!
Basically, I wanted a simple no-brainer "black-box" that I could upload a
single hi-res graphic image to (like a png or bmp file), step back, and have
it reliably output that image without any prompting/controlling so long as it
has power applied to it. Kind of like the Leitch cover-slide boxes that I
used to use, back when I worked in the television broadcast side of things.
Except now I want one that outputs a high-res image (say, 1280 X 768) in HDMI
or DVI format, instead of composite.
However, I cannot seem to locate anything this simple. There are of course
work-arounds (like multimedia players), however I do not want anything that I
have to issue commands to or control. I simply want the image there whenever
it is needed. We are using this image (it will be a periodic table,
actually) in one of our new auditorium installations. The Professor can show
this slide whenever the projector is on (and I did consider using the "user
defined" image function on the projector, however it accepts only low-res
images that end-up looking horrible when displayed). I am then routing this
image through a Crestron MD-8X8 matrix switcher, to the projector.
If any of you have any suggestions I would be very grateful!
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Mr. Hal Dalzell
Senior Technologist - Electronics
CETL Media Services
University of New Brunswick
And thanks to Soviets we now know that a pencil will work in low-gravity environments. Glad they put that one to rest.
Behind our pull-down screens are whiteboards and chalkboards. What side walls aren't covered with them as well are usually interrupted by doors and structural columns. If we needed periodic tables I suppose we would hang them on those walls anyway because we never did care much about viewing angles and egress. Or we might paint them onto the 9ft ceilings. Or, instead of leveraging the projector with a few hundred bucks worth of source equipment (or re-using what we have) we could spend a couple grand on those sliding boards with one that has the table painted on it just big enough to read from the middle of the room (I'm still waiting for the zoom option to be made available in painted-on graphics).
;^)
Harry
******************************
Harry Thomas
Educational Technologies
Naval Postgraduate School
*******************************
On May 29, 2012, at 9:03 AM, WOOD, Michael wrote:
No offense folks, but some of the solutions sound like the story of NASA
spending a ton of money on a zero gravity pen, while the Russian space
program just used a pencil.
I believe in our Chem. classrooms the Periodic table was painted on the wall,
and an axillary projection screen was placed in front of it. When the tables
needs to be hidden, the screen comes down.
-----Original Message-----
From: av-1@googlegroups.com<mailto:av-1@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Halton Dalzell
Sent: Mon 5/28/2012 2:55 PM
To: av-1@googlegroups.com<mailto:av-1@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [av-1] Looking for an HDMI or DVI "slide store" device...
Hello all,
I have been searching for what I thought would be an easy thing to find, but
which in reality seems to be a lot more difficult to find than I would have
thought. If any of you have any product suggestions then please feel free
to share, as so far (other than cumbersome "work-arounds" or "Rube Goldberg"
type solutions) I am coming-up empty-handed. Perhaps I am just searching
incorrectly; I know "how" I want it to work, but am not sure "what" to look
for to obtain that!
Basically, I wanted a simple no-brainer "black-box" that I could upload a
single hi-res graphic image to (like a png or bmp file), step back, and have
it reliably output that image without any prompting/controlling so long as it
has power applied to it. Kind of like the Leitch cover-slide boxes that I
used to use, back when I worked in the television broadcast side of things.
Except now I want one that outputs a high-res image (say, 1280 X 768) in HDMI
or DVI format, instead of composite.
However, I cannot seem to locate anything this simple. There are of course
work-arounds (like multimedia players), however I do not want anything that I
have to issue commands to or control. I simply want the image there whenever
it is needed. We are using this image (it will be a periodic table,
actually) in one of our new auditorium installations. The Professor can show
this slide whenever the projector is on (and I did consider using the "user
defined" image function on the projector, however it accepts only low-res
images that end-up looking horrible when displayed). I am then routing this
image through a Crestron MD-8X8 matrix switcher, to the projector.
If any of you have any suggestions I would be very grateful!
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Mr. Hal Dalzell
Senior Technologist - Electronics
CETL Media Services
University of New Brunswick
Well, I certainly didn't expect such a lively debate would result from such a simple question! ;o)
In any case, I can see that there definitely is a need for such a device in the AV community.. I liked Keith's suggestion regarding the USB stick, however the make/model of projector in question does not have a USB port (or any memory card ports, for that matter), so that solution won't work. And, as one poster pointed out, the physical design of the auditorium completely precludes any permanent physical illustration or large mural. We simply want to leverage the installed technology, and integrate it in a seamless and simple way. By the way, I am doing all the Crestron programming and touch-panel design currently, so it would be a straight-forward matter for me to do this.
Also, as someone else pointed-out, while the dedicated PC solution would work, we do need to consider the long-term cost of the power to run it (and also, when, not if it ultimately fails the work and time involved in getting another one set-up and configured).
Myself and another technician here independently found a Western Digital product (the TV Live Media HD player), which might just do the trick. It is priced such that it is worth taking the chance and trying it out. However, I still wish there was a simple, cost effective "dongle" that you could just plug directly into an HDMI, or DVI input on a projector and have a high-quality image available whenever you like. If I were independently wealthy (and had time on my hands) it sounds like it might even be worth developing and marketing such a thing. Wouldn't that be great for us techs when we want to just quickly test something, and need a portable, hi-def image that you can load and define yourself, along with a few standard test signals too?
Thanks for all the input, I am sure we will figure something out in the meantime! I will certainly update the list and let you all know what we did as a solution once we have one,
Cheers,
Hal.
On May 29, 2012, at 10:39 AM, Thomas, Harry (CIV) wrote:
> And thanks to Soviets we now know that a pencil will work in low-gravity environments. Glad they put that one to rest.
> Behind our pull-down screens are whiteboards and chalkboards. What side walls aren't covered with them as well are usually interrupted by doors and structural columns. If we needed periodic tables I suppose we would hang them on those walls anyway because we never did care much about viewing angles and egress. Or we might paint them onto the 9ft ceilings. Or, instead of leveraging the projector with a few hundred bucks worth of source equipment (or re-using what we have) we could spend a couple grand on those sliding boards with one that has the table painted on it just big enough to read from the middle of the room (I'm still waiting for the zoom option to be made available in painted-on graphics).
> ;^)
> Harry
> ******************************
> Harry Thomas
> Educational Technologies
> Naval Postgraduate School
> *******************************
> On May 29, 2012, at 9:03 AM, WOOD, Michael wrote:
>> No offense folks, but some of the solutions sound like the story of NASA
>> spending a ton of money on a zero gravity pen, while the Russian space
>> program just used a pencil.
>> I believe in our Chem. classrooms the Periodic table was painted on the wall,
>> and an axillary projection screen was placed in front of it. When the tables
>> needs to be hidden, the screen comes down.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: av-1@googlegroups.com on behalf of Halton Dalzell
>> Sent: Mon 5/28/2012 2:55 PM
>> To: av-1@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [av-1] Looking for an HDMI or DVI "slide store" device...
>> Hello all,
>> I have been searching for what I thought would be an easy thing to find, but
>> which in reality seems to be a lot more difficult to find than I would have
>> thought. If any of you have any product suggestions then please feel free
>> to share, as so far (other than cumbersome "work-arounds" or "Rube Goldberg"
>> type solutions) I am coming-up empty-handed. Perhaps I am just searching
>> incorrectly; I know "how" I want it to work, but am not sure "what" to look
>> for to obtain that!
>> Basically, I wanted a simple no-brainer "black-box" that I could upload a
>> single hi-res graphic image to (like a png or bmp file), step back, and have
>> it reliably output that image without any prompting/controlling so long as it
>> has power applied to it. Kind of like the Leitch cover-slide boxes that I
>> used to use, back when I worked in the television broadcast side of things.
>> Except now I want one that outputs a high-res image (say, 1280 X 768) in HDMI
>> or DVI format, instead of composite.
>> However, I cannot seem to locate anything this simple. There are of course
>> work-arounds (like multimedia players), however I do not want anything that I
>> have to issue commands to or control. I simply want the image there whenever
>> it is needed. We are using this image (it will be a periodic table,
>> actually) in one of our new auditorium installations. The Professor can show
>> this slide whenever the projector is on (and I did consider using the "user
>> defined" image function on the projector, however it accepts only low-res
>> images that end-up looking horrible when displayed). I am then routing this
>> image through a Crestron MD-8X8 matrix switcher, to the projector.
>> If any of you have any suggestions I would be very grateful!
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Regards,
>> Mr. Hal Dalzell
>> Senior Technologist - Electronics
>> CETL Media Services
>> University of New Brunswick
I was coming from an Occam's Razor point of view, where the simplest solution
can be the best. I've seen quite a few over engineered designs. Didn't
expect a response from the "Comic Book Guy".
Thanks,
Mike
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Thomas, Harry (CIV)
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To: <av-1@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [av-1] Looking for an HDMI or DVI "slide store" device...
And thanks to Soviets we now know that a pencil will work in low-gravity
environments. Glad they put that one to rest.
Behind our pull-down screens are whiteboards and chalkboards. What side walls
aren't covered with them as well are usually interrupted by doors and
structural columns. If we needed periodic tables I suppose we would hang them
on those walls anyway because we never did care much about viewing angles and
egress. Or we might paint them onto the 9ft ceilings. Or, instead of
leveraging the projector with a few hundred bucks worth of source equipment
(or re-using what we have) we could spend a couple grand on those sliding
boards with one that has the table painted on it just big enough to read from
the middle of the room (I'm still waiting for the zoom option to be made
available in painted-on graphics).
;^)
Harry
******************************
Harry Thomas
Educational Technologies
Naval Postgraduate School
*******************************
On May 29, 2012, at 9:03 AM, WOOD, Michael wrote:
No offense folks, but some of the solutions sound like the story of NASA
spending a ton of money on a zero gravity pen, while the Russian space
program just used a pencil.
I believe in our Chem. classrooms the Periodic table was painted on the wall,
and an axillary projection screen was placed in front of it. When the tables
needs to be hidden, the screen comes down.
-----Original Message-----
From: av-1@googlegroups.com on behalf of Halton Dalzell
Sent: Mon 5/28/2012 2:55 PM
To: av-1@googlegroups.com
Subject: [av-1] Looking for an HDMI or DVI "slide store" device...
Hello all,
I have been searching for what I thought would be an easy thing to find, but
which in reality seems to be a lot more difficult to find than I would have
thought. If any of you have any product suggestions then please feel free
to share, as so far (other than cumbersome "work-arounds" or "Rube Goldberg"
type solutions) I am coming-up empty-handed. Perhaps I am just searching
incorrectly; I know "how" I want it to work, but am not sure "what" to look
for to obtain that!
Basically, I wanted a simple no-brainer "black-box" that I could upload a
single hi-res graphic image to (like a png or bmp file), step back, and have
it reliably output that image without any prompting/controlling so long as it
has power applied to it. Kind of like the Leitch cover-slide boxes that I
used to use, back when I worked in the television broadcast side of things.
Except now I want one that outputs a high-res image (say, 1280 X 768) in HDMI
or DVI format, instead of composite.
However, I cannot seem to locate anything this simple. There are of course
work-arounds (like multimedia players), however I do not want anything that I
have to issue commands to or control. I simply want the image there whenever
it is needed. We are using this image (it will be a periodic table,
actually) in one of our new auditorium installations. The Professor can show
this slide whenever the projector is on (and I did consider using the "user
defined" image function on the projector, however it accepts only low-res
images that end-up looking horrible when displayed). I am then routing this
image through a Crestron MD-8X8 matrix switcher, to the projector.
If any of you have any suggestions I would be very grateful!
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Mr. Hal Dalzell
Senior Technologist - Electronics
CETL Media Services
University of New Brunswick
But nobody ever mentions the Soviets' multi-million dollar pencil sharpener-high tech alloys for strength and minimal weight, vacuum pump to prevent shavings from escaping through the pencil hole, designed to withstand the G-forces of a launch, and durable so it can be reused on subsequent flights. And autographed by both Yuri Gagarin and Laika.
K.
Keith D. Mills
Manager, Classroom Services
IT--Communications/Media
University of Calgary
MLB 26, 2500 University Drive, NW
Calgary, Alberta, Canada T2N 1N4
From: av-1@googlegroups.com [mailto:av-1@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of WOOD, Michael
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:02 AM
To: av-1@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [av-1] Looking for an HDMI or DVI "slide store" device...
I was coming from an Occam's Razor point of view, where the simplest solution can be the best. I've seen quite a few over engineered designs. Didn't expect a response from the "Comic Book Guy".
Thanks,
Mike
From: av-1@googlegroups.com<mailto:av-1@googlegroups.com> [mailto:av-1@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas, Harry (CIV)
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 8:39 AM
To: <av-1@googlegroups.com<mailto:av-1@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: [av-1] Looking for an HDMI or DVI "slide store" device...
And thanks to Soviets we now know that a pencil will work in low-gravity environments. Glad they put that one to rest.
Behind our pull-down screens are whiteboards and chalkboards. What side walls aren't covered with them as well are usually interrupted by doors and structural columns. If we needed periodic tables I suppose we would hang them on those walls anyway because we never did care much about viewing angles and egress. Or we might paint them onto the 9ft ceilings. Or, instead of leveraging the projector with a few hundred bucks worth of source equipment (or re-using what we have) we could spend a couple grand on those sliding boards with one that has the table painted on it just big enough to read from the middle of the room (I'm still waiting for the zoom option to be made available in painted-on graphics).
;^)
Harry
******************************
Harry Thomas
Educational Technologies
Naval Postgraduate School
*******************************
On May 29, 2012, at 9:03 AM, WOOD, Michael wrote:
No offense folks, but some of the solutions sound like the story of NASA
spending a ton of money on a zero gravity pen, while the Russian space
program just used a pencil.
I believe in our Chem. classrooms the Periodic table was painted on the wall,
and an axillary projection screen was placed in front of it. When the tables
needs to be hidden, the screen comes down.
-----Original Message-----
From: av-1@googlegroups.com<mailto:av-1@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Halton Dalzell
Sent: Mon 5/28/2012 2:55 PM
To: av-1@googlegroups.com<mailto:av-1@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [av-1] Looking for an HDMI or DVI "slide store" device...
Hello all,
I have been searching for what I thought would be an easy thing to find, but
which in reality seems to be a lot more difficult to find than I would have
thought. If any of you have any product suggestions then please feel free
to share, as so far (other than cumbersome "work-arounds" or "Rube Goldberg"
type solutions) I am coming-up empty-handed. Perhaps I am just searching
incorrectly; I know "how" I want it to work, but am not sure "what" to look
for to obtain that!
Basically, I wanted a simple no-brainer "black-box" that I could upload a
single hi-res graphic image to (like a png or bmp file), step back, and have
it reliably output that image without any prompting/controlling so long as it
has power applied to it. Kind of like the Leitch cover-slide boxes that I
used to use, back when I worked in the television broadcast side of things.
Except now I want one that outputs a high-res image (say, 1280 X 768) in HDMI
or DVI format, instead of composite.
However, I cannot seem to locate anything this simple. There are of course
work-arounds (like multimedia players), however I do not want anything that I
have to issue commands to or control. I simply want the image there whenever
it is needed. We are using this image (it will be a periodic table,
actually) in one of our new auditorium installations. The Professor can show
this slide whenever the projector is on (and I did consider using the "user
defined" image function on the projector, however it accepts only low-res
images that end-up looking horrible when displayed). I am then routing this
image through a Crestron MD-8X8 matrix switcher, to the projector.
If any of you have any suggestions I would be very grateful!
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Mr. Hal Dalzell
Senior Technologist - Electronics
CETL Media Services
University of New Brunswick
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And I was coming from the point of view that what looks like the simplest solution can be the worst simple idea ever when you actually try to execute.
Sincerely,
The Comic Book Guy ;^)
******************************
Harry Thomas
Educational Technologies
Naval Postgraduate School
*******************************
On May 30, 2012, at 1:02 PM, WOOD, Michael wrote:
I was coming from an Occam’s Razor point of view, where the simplest solution can be the best. I’ve seen quite a few over engineered designs. Didn’t expect a response from the “Comic Book Guy”.
Thanks,
Mike
From: av-1@googlegroups.com<mailto:av-1@googlegroups.com> [mailto:av-1@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas, Harry (CIV)
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To: <av-1@googlegroups.com<mailto:av-1@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: [av-1] Looking for an HDMI or DVI "slide store" device...
And thanks to Soviets we now know that a pencil will work in low-gravity environments. Glad they put that one to rest.
Behind our pull-down screens are whiteboards and chalkboards. What side walls aren't covered with them as well are usually interrupted by doors and structural columns. If we needed periodic tables I suppose we would hang them on those walls anyway because we never did care much about viewing angles and egress. Or we might paint them onto the 9ft ceilings. Or, instead of leveraging the projector with a few hundred bucks worth of source equipment (or re-using what we have) we could spend a couple grand on those sliding boards with one that has the table painted on it just big enough to read from the middle of the room (I'm still waiting for the zoom option to be made available in painted-on graphics).
;^)
Harry
******************************
Harry Thomas
Educational Technologies
Naval Postgraduate School
*******************************
On May 29, 2012, at 9:03 AM, WOOD, Michael wrote:
No offense folks, but some of the solutions sound like the story of NASA
spending a ton of money on a zero gravity pen, while the Russian space
program just used a pencil.
I believe in our Chem. classrooms the Periodic table was painted on the wall,
and an axillary projection screen was placed in front of it. When the tables
needs to be hidden, the screen comes down.
-----Original Message-----
From: av-1@googlegroups.com<mailto:av-1@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Halton Dalzell
Sent: Mon 5/28/2012 2:55 PM
To: av-1@googlegroups.com<mailto:av-1@googlegroups.com>
Subject: [av-1] Looking for an HDMI or DVI "slide store" device...
Hello all,
I have been searching for what I thought would be an easy thing to find, but
which in reality seems to be a lot more difficult to find than I would have
thought. If any of you have any product suggestions then please feel free
to share, as so far (other than cumbersome "work-arounds" or "Rube Goldberg"
type solutions) I am coming-up empty-handed. Perhaps I am just searching
incorrectly; I know "how" I want it to work, but am not sure "what" to look
for to obtain that!
Basically, I wanted a simple no-brainer "black-box" that I could upload a
single hi-res graphic image to (like a png or bmp file), step back, and have
it reliably output that image without any prompting/controlling so long as it
has power applied to it. Kind of like the Leitch cover-slide boxes that I
used to use, back when I worked in the television broadcast side of things.
Except now I want one that outputs a high-res image (say, 1280 X 768) in HDMI
or DVI format, instead of composite.
However, I cannot seem to locate anything this simple. There are of course
work-arounds (like multimedia players), however I do not want anything that I
have to issue commands to or control. I simply want the image there whenever
it is needed. We are using this image (it will be a periodic table,
actually) in one of our new auditorium installations. The Professor can show
this slide whenever the projector is on (and I did consider using the "user
defined" image function on the projector, however it accepts only low-res
images that end-up looking horrible when displayed). I am then routing this
image through a Crestron MD-8X8 matrix switcher, to the projector.
If any of you have any suggestions I would be very grateful!
Thanks in advance,
Regards,
Mr. Hal Dalzell
Senior Technologist - Electronics
CETL Media Services
University of New Brunswick
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