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Scott Tiner  
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 More options Feb 15, 9:22 am
From: Scott Tiner <sti...@bates.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:22:55 -0500
Local: Wed, Feb 15 2012 9:22 am
Subject: very large screen for theater
Hi All-

Unusual request (at least for us) coming from our theater and dance
department.  They are interested in a very large (up here in Maine we
would normally say *wicked laag*) projection surface for some of their
performances.  Aspect ratio is irrelevant, but they are talking about
something that is 6- feet wide by 30 or 40 feet high.  Any of you had
any experience with something like this?

ST

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Jon Bannan  
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 More options Feb 15, 9:24 am
From: Jon Bannan <ban...@tcnj.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:24:55 -0500
Local: Wed, Feb 15 2012 9:24 am
Subject: Re: [av-1] very large screen for theater
Scott,

Our theater has one that is 25ft wide.  I forget the height, but they
fly their scrim in when they need to change the size.

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Thomas, Harry (CIV)  
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 More options Feb 15, 10:49 am
From: "Thomas, Harry (CIV)" <htho...@nps.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:49:20 +0000
Local: Wed, Feb 15 2012 10:49 am
Subject: Re: [av-1] very large screen for theater

Wow. 6:1. Is that the next killer aspect ratio we're going to have to deal with??

No experience with that funky size, but I've used foam insulation board before to make odd-size screens. We just used latex paint, but Screen Goo would perform better.

http://www.goosystemsglobal.com/indexcb1f.html?cont=tips

Here's what their FAQ has to say about substrates:

Recommended Substrates

Front projection Screen Goo can be applied to any smooth paintable surface. Many materials other than the products listed below can be used successfully. For best results the surface should be flat and smooth. If this surface to be coated is not smooth, it should be sanded down and wiped off prior to applying the Screen Goo Reflective Coat. Porous surfaces such as drywall, gyproc, and wood based materials such as plywood, particle board, MDF, should be sealed with a flat, white latex primer prior to applying Screen Goo Reflective Coat. Colored surfaces should also be primed with a flat, white latex.

[http://www.goosystemsglobal.com/images/lk_new.gif] Sintra Board<http://www.lairdplastics.com/content/view/267/71/> - Sintra is an excellent material to apply Screen Goo front projection coatings to. It is very hard and durable and requires no priming prior to being "Goo'ed". It is, however, somewhat floppy and should be supported to ensure a flat viewing surface. We suggest choosing white and a minimum 6mm thickness.

[http://www.goosystemsglobal.com/images/lk_new.gif] Gatorfoam<http://www.lairdplastics.com/content/view/352/71/> - Gatorfoam is another excellent choice for "Goo'ing". It is light weight and rigid enough to be self-supporting. It is, however, prone to denting and should probably not be used in high traffic areas or to stop hockey pucks. No priming is required. We suggest choosing white and a minimum 1/2 inch thickness.

To find a Sintra or Gator distributor near you, click here: http://www.lairdplastics.com/content/section/4/39/

[http://www.goosystemsglobal.com/images/lk_new.gif] Blackout Cloth<http://www.rosebrand.com/product34/Blackout-Lining-IFR.aspx?tid=2&inf...> - 3 pass foam, sometimes called blackout cloth, is an excellent fabric substrate for a front projection Goo application. No priming or special preparation is required before "Goo'ing". This material can be used with a stretcher frame to make a lightweight, portable Goo Screen. It is sold by the yard and available in widths up to 110". Rolled Screen Goo applications are not recommended for blackout cloth. Spraying will give optimal results with this substrate

Good luck. It would be interesting to see photos of whatever they come up with.

Harry

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Harry Thomas
Educational Technologies
Naval Postgraduate School
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On Feb 15, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Scott Tiner wrote:

Hi All-

Unusual request (at least for us) coming from our theater and dance department.  They are interested in a very large (up here in Maine we would normally say *wicked laag*) projection surface for some of their performances.  Aspect ratio is irrelevant, but they are talking about something that is 6- feet wide by 30 or 40 feet high.  Any of you had any experience with something like this?

ST

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Thomas, Harry (CIV)  
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 More options Feb 15, 10:52 am
From: "Thomas, Harry (CIV)" <htho...@nps.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:52:27 +0000
Local: Wed, Feb 15 2012 10:52 am
Subject: Re: [av-1] very large screen for theater

Oops. I meant 1: 6

Harry

On Feb 15, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Thomas, Harry (CIV) wrote:

Wow. 6:1. Is that the next killer aspect ratio we're going to have to deal with??

No experience with that funky size, but I've used foam insulation board before to make odd-size screens. We just used latex paint, but Screen Goo would perform better.

http://www.goosystemsglobal.com/indexcb1f.html?cont=tips

Here's what their FAQ has to say about substrates:

Recommended Substrates

Front projection Screen Goo can be applied to any smooth paintable surface. Many materials other than the products listed below can be used successfully. For best results the surface should be flat and smooth. If this surface to be coated is not smooth, it should be sanded down and wiped off prior to applying the Screen Goo Reflective Coat. Porous surfaces such as drywall, gyproc, and wood based materials such as plywood, particle board, MDF, should be sealed with a flat, white latex primer prior to applying Screen Goo Reflective Coat. Colored surfaces should also be primed with a flat, white latex.

[http://www.goosystemsglobal.com/images/lk_new.gif] Sintra Board<http://www.lairdplastics.com/content/view/267/71/> - Sintra is an excellent material to apply Screen Goo front projection coatings to. It is very hard and durable and requires no priming prior to being "Goo'ed". It is, however, somewhat floppy and should be supported to ensure a flat viewing surface. We suggest choosing white and a minimum 6mm thickness.

[http://www.goosystemsglobal.com/images/lk_new.gif] Gatorfoam<http://www.lairdplastics.com/content/view/352/71/> - Gatorfoam is another excellent choice for "Goo'ing". It is light weight and rigid enough to be self-supporting. It is, however, prone to denting and should probably not be used in high traffic areas or to stop hockey pucks. No priming is required. We suggest choosing white and a minimum 1/2 inch thickness.

To find a Sintra or Gator distributor near you, click here: http://www.lairdplastics.com/content/section/4/39/

[http://www.goosystemsglobal.com/images/lk_new.gif] Blackout Cloth<http://www.rosebrand.com/product34/Blackout-Lining-IFR.aspx?tid=2&inf...> - 3 pass foam, sometimes called blackout cloth, is an excellent fabric substrate for a front projection Goo application. No priming or special preparation is required before "Goo'ing". This material can be used with a stretcher frame to make a lightweight, portable Goo Screen. It is sold by the yard and available in widths up to 110". Rolled Screen Goo applications are not recommended for blackout cloth. Spraying will give optimal results with this substrate

Good luck. It would be interesting to see photos of whatever they come up with.

Harry

******************************
Harry Thomas
Educational Technologies
Naval Postgraduate School
******************************

On Feb 15, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Scott Tiner wrote:

Hi All-

Unusual request (at least for us) coming from our theater and dance department.  They are interested in a very large (up here in Maine we would normally say *wicked laag*) projection surface for some of their performances.  Aspect ratio is irrelevant, but they are talking about something that is 6- feet wide by 30 or 40 feet high.  Any of you had any experience with something like this?

ST

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Assistant Director for Digital Media, Classroom Technologies&  Event Support
Bates College
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Tim O'Neil  
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 More options Feb 15, 10:56 am
From: "Tim O'Neil" <on...@brandeis.edu>
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 10:56:23 -0500
Local: Wed, Feb 15 2012 10:56 am
Subject: Re: [av-1] very large screen for theater

Yes - scrim, or lace and grommet is an expensive option:
http://www.projectorcentral.com/Draper-Lace_and_Grommet.htm
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Greg Gardella - University of Nevada, Reno  
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 More options Feb 16, 12:43 pm
From: "Greg Gardella - University of Nevada, Reno" <g...@unr.edu>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 09:43:18 -0800 (PST)
Local: Thurs, Feb 16 2012 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: very large screen for theater
We have a nice centralized printing lab for students and faculty and
there are two large-scale inkjet printers there.  Those printers use
rolls of paper that are either 48" or 60" wide.  It would be about a
foot too narrow, but the cost would be about the best you could
expect.

Also, in past times, I had time to make art and was somewhat
prolific.  I did one installation project where I had one whole
gallery room to work with.  My goal was to compress the space and make
the viewers all fit into a much smaller space than they expected in
the gallery, but to do it with a material that was not robust and
shouldn't be able to hold back a large group of people.  I happened to
have a friend who works for a printing company and they print several
magazines.  They use rolls of paper that are 14' across.  So, I called
him and asked if they had any 'mill ends' of the paper they used for
printing the magazines.  He lined me up with one that had about 40'
still on the roll and I used that to create a single, continuous wall
across the gallery made of paper.  Long story, long...see if there are
any local printing companies that might have some mill ends from paper
rolls.

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