Unity my ass. On to Denver!
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First. Popular vote total including FL and MI = Clinton +162,553

Next. Watching the Rules and Bylaws Committee (RBC) today, I was
strongly reminded of two things. First, when I lived in a condo in San
Diego I attended Homeowner’s Association Meetings where, I swear to
God, the same bunch of rule-happy, petty tyrants were in charge.
Second, this brought back ugly memories of court arguments in 2000
where fancy BS was being used to disenfranchise voters.

Thank God for Harold Ickes, Tina Flournoy, and the others who stood
with them today when they tried to stop democracy from being hijacked.
Here is Mr. Ickes expressing his outrage at the impending vote to
strip 4 of Hillary’s delegates in Michigan and hand them to Barack —
even though he wasn’t on the ballot:

I am angry, and I am in complete agreement with the protestors who
were shouting in the back of that meeting room — “Den-ver, Den-ver Den-
ver!” It turns out that I’m not the only one. Here is my friend
speaking his mind about it:

I will vote for Hillary. I will never vote for Obama. Never. Unity my
ass.

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49 Comments »  Comment by lansing quaker | 2008-05-31 23:23:44

And here is more dissent on this farce.

From a MICHIGAN voice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nAaJ5j6nyw

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 Comment by **== President & Commander-in-Chief Hillary Clinton **== |
2008-05-31 23:26:26

I will vote for Hillary. I will never vote for Obama. Never. Unity my
ass.

I second that!

Denver! Denver! Denver!

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 Comment by Mawm | 2008-06-01 21:15:06

I was in there shouting Denver. The place was electric. It felt like
History was being made. I think Ickes will be written about. All the
pretenders to democracy will be shamed.

I got into so many fights with Obama supporters right before they came
back with the fix. I think they have to be in such denial about what
they are doing.

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 Comment by Ellen Tenn | 2008-05-31 23:28:39

IF, IF, IF obama is the nominee, I will see you all in Denver, I love
America and will not sit by and let a hateful, vile man like Obama
become president
( by the way, I voted for him in Ill when he was running for senator)

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 Comment by ginaswo | 2008-06-01 13:43:07

RIGHT ON!!!

DENVER
DENVER
DENVER

BOOYAH!!!!!
HILLYEAH!!!!!!

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 Comment by kmr1964 | 2008-05-31 23:29:56

Hillary needs to take this all the way. If she does not then I will be
voting, campagning and donating to McCain this fall at least he has
respect for her and her supporters. UNITY MY ASS. Hell no, Denver here
we come.

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 Comment by so saddened | 2008-05-31 23:45:54

ditto. and that’s the case even if she’s on the ticket with obambi.
and even if she tells everyone to support him. doesn’t matter.

NOTHING can make me vote for obambi.

my vote and my money will go to mccain if obambi’s nominated.

i’ve emailed that message to the dnc many times. no replies. they
don’t care. they think we’ll come around. they’re full of crap.

when millions of us vote for mccain, they’ll finally believe us.

we can have 4 years of mccain, followed by 8 years of hillary.

hillary or mccain. no other option.

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 Comment by ginamc | 2008-06-01 09:39:06

EXACTLY, SPOT ON!

Also, I’m a Delegate, and I am so completely disgusted with the
STEALING of Hillary’s votes and the STEALING of Uncommitted votes.
What kind of crap is this?! This feels worse than with W and Gore in
2000.

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 Comment by Dmitriy | 2008-06-01 12:29:59

I will not vote for Hussein, but if Hillary is on the ticket I cannot
imaging voting against her.

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 Comment by Lee in PA | 2008-06-04 08:12:59

I’ve written to the DNC, gotten NO replies

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 Comment by street_parade | 2008-05-31 23:30:54

DENVER is god*$%mn right! Time to tear up another DNC plea for money
and send it back to them. It’s their 42 cents postage. They probably
can’t afford the rent for the meeting hall….too bad.

What’s the difference between Donna Brazille and Katherine Harris?
Nothing.

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 Comment by so saddened | 2008-05-31 23:48:06

what’s the difference between nancy pelosi and katherine harris?
nothing.

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 Comment by bert | 2008-05-31 23:57:09

And what’s the difference between the 2000 Supreme Court and the DNC?
Nothing.

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 Comment by Catsarepeopletoo | 2008-05-31 23:35:00

Giving BO 4 of Hillary’s delegates and all of the uncommitted
delegates violates the rules and the Constitution. It is outrageous. I
will vote McCain if BO gets the nom, since i’m in a swing state.

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 Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-06-01 08:24:44

Good for You ! make that vote count against Barry the Hijacker….
Obama and is elitist oligarchy have dismantled democracy and the Party
built be FDR. I will vote to stop this FASCIST OBAMA….I hate even
typing his name….( sigh ) it feels like I’m typing Stalin….

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 Comment by Deb Cupples | 2008-05-31 23:36:21

V,

I LOVE your title.

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 Comment by Gary | 2008-05-31 23:37:00

ON TO DENVER. UNITY!!??? Bull!!!!!

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 Comment by yttik | 2008-05-31 23:47:23

“Unity my ass” is about right. His majesty on the Unity Pony thinks
women are going to walk behind him and clean up after his horse.

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 Comment by so saddened | 2008-05-31 23:50:25

his majesty will learn soon enough that he, his horse, and his horse
shit are on their own.

he and michelle can ride the unity pony back home. then they can get
together with wright, ayers, et al, and have a nice little pity party.

screw them and their “hope” for unity.

hillary or mccain. no other option.

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 Comment by champ | 2008-05-31 23:51:51

From a citizen living in australia.
Keep going Hillary.
I want MY AMERICA back.

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 Comment by jwrjr | 2008-06-01 00:19:25

I see that “unity” is still Obamaspeak for “throw Clinton under the
bus and vote for me.” Not bloody well likely.

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 Comment by jm | 2008-06-01 00:42:01

Please Help Make This Protest Viral on blogs and via email. Feel free
to include article or - - -edit to Protest Details - - -

THE FIX IS IN AT THE DNC!

Democrats across America are aghast, outraged and know that telling
someone their vote gets .50% value is less than the slaves even got
(which was 3/5). Much of our nation is outraged at this highway
robbery which has just unfolded.

Florida voters have been treated as lesser citizens before - by the
Republicans. Real Democrats across the country see clearly, when it
comes to the current DNC, the Fix is In. In fact, this has been set up
long ago. In the meeting today, before this decision was finalized,
Florida’s representatives made crystal clear that they had no
alternative to the January 29th date. The Republican majority
legistlature attached this Primary Election date to the urgent bill
for a paper trail voting system (to remedy the 2004 recount debacle
ever occurring again.)

The FLA Republican legislature knew well, that attaching this Primary
Date Violation, as a rider to essential voting machine replacements,
would make it impossible for the Democratic minority of the
Legislature to avoid this date. The Democratic Legislature, as they
explained in the Democratic Rules Committee Meeting today, attempted
to pass a changed, delayed date. The State Republican party
outnumbered them and voted this down. All these facts were made clear
in the DNC Rules meeting today, May 31. And, for those unaware, the
same DNC which cut FLA’s votes in 1/2 today, based on no fault of FLA
voters, gave full authorization to 3 other states to have early
Primaries, with their blessings. Why not Florida? (And why not
Michigan, which has also been stripped of half its votes and had the
equivalent of two rural voting districts) lifted from their chosen
candidate and handed on a silver platter to Barack Obama?)

The DNC stated today that they offered FLA $880,000 to redo the
Primary. All this would support, as FLA representatives explained, was
a mail-in ballot, without the budget or means to assure security and
validity of ballots. It may also be recalled, that despite having
handily won 55% of FLA primary votes, the Hillary Clinton campaign
offered to come up with the means to redo the Primary, if the Obama
campaign (which is far more funded by special interests) would agree.
The Obama campaign, which badly lost the January FLA primary, with
only 30% of the vote, refused to support a replacement Primary. Why?
Because their poll numbers were still poor in FLA.

The Obama campaign violated standards by being the only candidate’s
campaign to advertise in Florida before the January Primary. When
asked about these ads, the Obama campaign claimed that the Florida ads
were part of a national ad buy and their TV use was overlooked by
mistake. Imagine that! They forgot they were running ads for a Primary
they have spent months now pretending didn’t even exist. They also ran
ads in a neighboring state which included part of FLA in its media
zone. When asked, the Obama campaign again said, Whoops, another
overlooked mistake. Anyone who knows how to read knows, by now, Obama
makes a lot of mistakes. It is normal to expect them to be overlooked
and allowed, and whatever you do, do not ask him to explain them.

The DNC, long known to be in the tank for Obama, claimed in today’s
contrived “Rules” meeting that they had actually approved advertising
in FLA for the primary. If you doubt the Fix is In, replay these
facts: !) We told you, FLA, that your primary will not count. 2)
Although your Primary doesn’t exist candidates can still place
campaign advertisements. 3) So, in your non-existent Primary, FLA, in
which Barack Obama spent a considerable sum appealing to FLA voters,
but still lost anyway, we will restore 50% your votes, which is not
enough to do our ‘golden boy’ any harm at this late May date!

When Michigan attempted to schedule a Primary re-run, progress moved
forward, capital was provided - until Obama supporters blocked the
passage of the final arrangements beyond the time window of
opportunity. Obama’s strategists knew they had sealed FLA’s fate, as
well as Michigan’s, long before today. This meeting was merely a
formality, a public pronouncement of wheels set in motion long
before.

Floridians and Democrats in Michigan can now expect miles of spin by
Obama supporters, state wide, who will try to convince you how lucky
you are to get back 1/2 of your vote. Should you fall for this soon-to-
come PR campaign, just remember, that makes your vote count less than
a slave’s did, well over a century ago. Such a deal, you can count for
1/2 vote now- in order to give the same party and candidate who stole
the other half of your vote your whole vote in November.

In Michigan Obama’s candidacy was to be included on the ballot. But
when his campaign saw that he was 20% behind in the polls there, they
changed their mind and withdrew his name from the ballot. It wasn’t
that Michigan voters didn’t know he was running. He simply pretended
not to be. As many have observed Barack Obama is skilled and practiced
at pretending. Recently, for example, he has pretended to have removed
his name from the MI ballot because he wanted to play by the rules.
Today’s Rules Committee Meeting has exemplified ‘rules’ are now
interpreted as “any means to an end.”

This is a DNC that claims it is time to come together and heal. This
is a DNC which has had the international news media keep count of all
Primary results and their totals everywhere with a ZERO count given
for FLA & MI throughout the entire Primary season. This is a DNC in
which disproportionate numbers of Super Delegates have cast their
powerful votes for Obama, nationwide, in contradiction to the voting
will of the people in numerous states where Hillary Clinton won by a
large majority. This is a DNC, which now thinks Obama can afford to
lose a few delegates, and so has generously given every citizen of FLA
1/2 a vote back and less than 1/2 vote back to MI, 4 months after the
people of these states cast 1 whole vote per person.

Real Democrats across our nation know that this is less than 50% too
little and far too late! Were all this not insulting and flagrantly
dishonest enough, this same DNC, which obviously re-invents its
“Rules” as it goes along, has sardonically stated that come August, at
the convention, if the chosen Nominee so deems, HE can give FLA & MI
back their full votes. After it doesn’t matter at all. After it was
counted at ZERO when it did matter. After it was arrogantly reinstated
at less than 50% of its value, with the use of creative
new math.

Democrats of FLA & MI need to know that the thousands of protesters,
who traveled to D.C. (for what had been billed an Open Rules meeting,
then changed on short notice to a Closed Rules meeting) are joined by
millions of other Democrats nationwide, in one outcry: A Vote is a
Vote is a Vote. Not 1/2 vote. Not a four months too late vote. Not to
be superceded by DNC party elite Super Delegate votes. Not a come to
Denver, be nice and we may reconsider vote.

We have not, until now, left the Democratic Party. We can now see,
however painfully and shockingly, the current Democratic Party has
left us. We invite and request FLA voters and MI voters who do not
agree with the coronation of a candidate that the majority of voters
have proven we do not want - JOIN US in a collective withdrawal of our
Democratic Party affiliation. Prove that you know that your vote
should count now and fully. Prove that no party elite can take away
50% + of your vote to substitute their own false math.
__________________________

This week, June 2nd - June 6 is the start of a NATIONWIDE PROTEST.
Show the rest of America you care about your voting rights as much as
any and all real Democrats should do. Go to your local official office
(City Hall, Village Hall, etc.) and request that your Democratic Party
affiliation be withdrawn and changed to “Independent” status. This is
a national movement to show Florida voters count. If you carry a
Voters Registration card, you can, instead, just rip it in half and
mail it in:

Send this “change of status” notice to the DNC Headquarters at 430 S.
Capital SE Washington D.C. 20003

Notify your fellow Floridians and Michigan voters that real Democrats
around the country are with you in protest!

Email this COLLECTIVE PROTEST ANNOUNCEMENT to your friends and family
from coast to coast.

Show the National Democratic Party that this country is still a
democracy, whether they like it or not!
——————————-

Want final evidence the Fix is In? Read Barack Obama’s pre-Rules
Meeting quote regarding the counting of Florida’s votes. Barack Obama
stated he was “willing” to allow Florida’s and Michigan’s delegates
and votes to be counted “In a way that doesn’t change the outcome”.
Yes, you read that right: “In a way that doesn’t change the outcome”.
In other words, as long as they don’t count, go ahead and count them.
David Axelrod, his campaign manager repeated this public statement on
national television verbatim last week. Isn’t it a strange coincidence
that the Rules Committee results perfectly matched their declared
expectations?! How can you make millions of votes”not change an
outcome”? Well, you just count them at under 50%.

Barack Obama scammed Florida and Michigan until their primary results
could no longer hurt him. Now he actually thinks the voters in two
large states of our union don’t know the difference. Obama, in his
typical entitlement, just figures the pesky old people he disdains and
the Cubans down south and the rural and working class voters and the
majority of women can’t possibly be bright enough to notice that he
has hoodwinked them. Let’s show him how wrong he is! MAKE YOUR VOICE
HEARD! DECLARE YOUR INDEPENDENCE!

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 Comment by pm317 | 2008-06-01 01:16:55

Obama broke the rules in FL by campaigning but got his share of
delegates anyway. He was not on the ballot in MI but got 55 FREE
delegates anyway. And on top of it, he STOLE 4 delegates from Hillary.
This is democracy in the Democratic party. There is no way in hell I
will vote for this guy.

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 Comment by pm317 | 2008-06-01 01:25:28

Thanks for Ickes video clip — it was good to hear him again.

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 Comment by beebop | 2008-06-01 10:07:37

It is in the new Affirmative Action Democratic Party …. women in the
back of the bus ….

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 Comment by Kinky Ogremann | 2008-06-01 06:16:20

Even slaves were given 3/5 of a designation in determining
congressional representation, apparently FL and MI voters represent
even less as human beings.

And what’s up with stealing Hillary’s delegates? Just because she’s a
woman and the only one acting like a decent human being you think you
can treat her this way? PIGS! Never Obama.

This accounts to a political mugging.

As if this wasn’t enough, then presuming to know what 600,000 voters
wanted, 30 people decided that all votes not cast for Clinton will go
to Obama despite the fact that many voted for Edwards, Richardson,
Gravel, and even Kucinich.

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 Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-06-01 08:30:04

This is all part of branding Hillary as the cheat !…..When that PIG
Donna Putin called it cheating I knew they were continuing to do
whatever they could to smear Clinton….They are cowards ! Ickes was
great….FDR would have been proud of him…He is representative of what
the democrats used to be….as is Hillary…

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 Comment by Mooresformccain | 2008-06-24 15:26:33

This year because of all the deceit and corruption in the DNP, I will
be voting for my first ever republican presidential candidate, John
McCain.
I will also swith my party affilitation to republican without remorse.
Not voting at all is not an option. Voting for BO if Hillary by some
miracle should be picked as VP, is not an option.
Voting for a real, experienced, proven, honest, caring, isle crossing
candidate like John McCain is the only option.
But none of us enlightened people should worry about current poll
reflections, as they only reflect the Bradley effect. Anyone white,
who will not vote for Obama is coined a racist, even if they are black
themselves. There is no way in hell there could be enoungh fools to
actually put Barack Hussein Obama and his lovely white people hating
wife in our WHITE HOUSE!
Cant wait to see how smug and arrogant those two are when they have to
concede to John McCain in November.

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 Comment by PaganPower | 2008-06-01 06:29:57

Unfrickinbelievable!

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 Comment by AC-n-NC | 2008-06-01 06:53:42

Stealing delagates from a candidate that people voted for and did
nothing wrong and she is still penalized. WOW, welcome to the new
Democratic party where they can go in and more delagates around at
will. What state will they take some of Hillary’s delagates from next.
I am shocked. The party really does not care. On to Denver. If they
are going to try to steal this make them stand up and vote in front of
the cameras in Denver.

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 Comment by Lucinda | 2008-06-01 07:04:06

Harold Ickes is my new hero.

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 Comment by ownaa | 2008-06-01 07:15:21

NOW WHAT? WE NEED ACTIONS.
What is the next step. If we have the proccess for a new party month
ago when every thing was clear what is going on, we would have a
bargining chip for the meeting, that is why they think we are too
cowards to start a new party or defect. They are even talking about
f#*&% unity. All I could say now we had our chance we blew it. They
know.

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 Comment by workingclass artist | 2008-06-01 08:34:26

It is important that the information continue to be put out there and
that the outrage be expressed….FASCISM CAN ONLY TRIUMPH THROUGH
SILENCE….we must stick together….This is bigger than the Parties…

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 Comment by silver fox | 2008-06-01 08:03:25

let’s, on monday, flood the dnc with photo copies of our new
affiliation with the ind. or repub. party. we might consider doing
this now, rather than later , before the convention and before the
last primary.

based on the highjacking of democracy yesterday, on tomorrow, monday,
i will be heading straight to my townhall and changing my affiliation
from dem.

i’ve had it. country/democracy loyalty trumps party loyalty everytime.
if Sen Clinton does not win the dem nom, the dnc just elected john
mccain.

when the dem leadership, in their kool-aid haze, start singing “let
the healing begin”( which secretly means “let them eat cake”), let’s
begin forming a real third party for 2012.

if Hillary is not the dem nom, i’ll vote for john mccain as a protest
“song”. i have a particularly nice banjo here, and i know how to play
it.

no obama ANYWHERE near the white house. ever.

address of dnc: DNC headquarters
430 s. capital, s.e.
washington, dc 20003

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 Comment by PAN230 | 2008-06-01 08:52:03

I heard myself saying those exact words as I sat and watched the
motions, discussions and votes yesterday. I do not know what Don
Fowler was thinking when he turned his back on Harold Ickes argument.
I thought Jim Blanchard made the best case vis a vis the Michigan
primary. My worst thought was how much time and energy and money was
wasted to end up with an outcome that had been rigged behind closed
doors anyway. So much for letting voices be heard - so much for the
real rules and charter of the Democratic Party.
There is no unity because one side REFUSES to even listen to voices of
the other - and I ain’t talking about the Clinton camp here. Pax Obama
is not party unity.

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 Comment by renegade | 2008-06-01 09:30:19

I love to come here and watch you people stand on your heads and
whine.

“…and hand Barack four delegates in a State he didn’t even campaign
in.”

AMAZING, first the rules committee said Mich. and Fla. votes would NOT
count if they moved their primaries up. They did anyway. The DNC told
the candidates NOT TO CAMPAIGN in those States. Hillary did anyway and
now after breaking That rule wants all those votes. Yes folks just
another episode of two wrongs somehow spinning to make it right.
I think the DNC blew it even having a rules meeting now and giving
Anyone any votes in those States. They should not have even been able
to hold voting in those States just for this reason.
But there is light at the end of the tunnel for you wacko’s. Just stay
home in November or vote for McBush, then when Obama loses you can
say, “I told you so” and you can run Hillary again in four years. You
and the Pubs are all the same anyway. That is why I vote libertarian.
Rave on suckers, you prove my point over and over. You don’t care
about America only your own little world in it.

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 Comment by LBJ's Love Child | 2008-06-01 09:42:11

Rave on suckers, you prove my point over and over. You don’t care
about AmeriKKKa only your own little world in it.

-edited for typo-

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 Comment by beebop | 2008-06-01 10:03:51

WE WILL NOT STAY HOME. We will remember in November. And we will vote
sane with McCain