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Touchscreen Voting CEO Committed to Delivering Election to Bush!! You Better Read this!

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God Bless Texas

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Sep 5, 2003, 11:47:09 AM9/5/03
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"All_Seeing_Eye" <golo...@yahoo.com> wrote

> Funny how the conservative readers don't want to comment on this critical
> issue.
>
> Subject: Touchscreen Voting CEO Committed to Delivering Election to Bush!!
> You Better Read this!
>
>
> > Election Rigging is now in the hands of the Ohio GOP!
> >
> > http://www.blackboxvoting.com/
> >
> > I am committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the
> President
> > next year."
> > - Wally O'Dell, CEO Diebold
> >
> > Bald-Faced Lies About Black Box Voting Machines
> > http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0307/S00078.htm
> >
> >

<response trimmed to a few relevant groups>

OK, a few points:

1. O'Dell is a well-known Republican. Most CEOs are, oddly enough.
2. The quote above is taken from a fund-raising letter he sent to fellow
Republicans in Ohio, and had nothing to do with his company's equipment,
hardware, or software.
3. Diebold's equipment is used worldwide for a number of high-security
applications. It is quite trusted.
4. The .nz piece is BS - anyone can post a webpage making random claims of
anything. Only fools believe everything they read on the Internet (or in
the newspaper, for that matter).
5. Diebold's voting equipment, in particular, is used in several states,
and has undergone thorough testing by independent organizations.
6. A small number of "revelations" are circulating, purporting to reveal
shortcomings in the Diebold system. These have been investigated by
independent review boards, and found to be without merit.

Now, as a semi-conservative, if you want my comment?

I think it takes an awfully small mind to look up at a molehill and try to
convince everyone else that you're seeing a mountain.


All_Seeing_Eye

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Sep 5, 2003, 1:06:58 PM9/5/03
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You are either an ignorant man, or a shameless apologist for blatant
corruption.
You said the following:

> A small number of "revelations" are circulating, purporting to reveal
> shortcomings in the Diebold system. These have been investigated by
> independent review boards, and found to be without merit.

That is Total Friggan Spin and distortion!!! The systems used were never
investigated by
any independent group, but by Diebold themselves! and certified secure by
themselves!.
Furthermore, perhaps you are trying to spin the "investigation" by Johns
Hopkins.....where they hired Avi Rubin, the Johns Hopkins University
researcher responsible for the Diebold investigation, who Admitted he serves
on the board of VoteHere, which is run by the following right-wingers! Which
is also a member of the same special interest group lobbying to push
E-voting everywhere.
a.. Chairman of the VoteHere board of directors: Admiral Bill Owens.a member
of the ultra- conservative hawkish Defense Policy Board, also chaired by
Newt Gingrich, Henry Kissinger, Richard Perle, Dan Quayle, James Woolsey
a.. Director of VoteHere: former CIA director, head of the George Bush
School of Business, Robert Gates.

The investigation was a farce! The source code for the machines was Leaked
and spread around the Net.
The point is that most of the e-voting maching companies are not just
Republican controlled, but actually friends and former associates to Bush
people. That doesn't send up a REd Flag for you??? But I guess I must be a
conspiracy nut to point out these facts. Doesn't it make you feel a bit
nervous that 2 former heads of the CIA are running election machine
companies??? Hello?????
...
...Continue to bury your head in the sand....or read this
http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/northwoods.pdf

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God Bless Texas

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Sep 5, 2003, 2:09:22 PM9/5/03
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"All_Seeing_Eye" <golo...@yahoo.com> wrote

> You are either an ignorant man, or a shameless apologist for blatant
> corruption.

And you are a child. I have hopes you will mature.

> You said the following:
>
> > A small number of "revelations" are circulating, purporting to reveal
> > shortcomings in the Diebold system. These have been investigated by
> > independent review boards, and found to be without merit.
>
> That is Total Friggan Spin and distortion!!! The systems used were never
> investigated by
> any independent group, but by Diebold themselves! and certified secure by
> themselves!.

Using external security and software contractors; I stand by my assertion.

> Furthermore, perhaps you are trying to spin the "investigation" by Johns
> Hopkins.....where they hired Avi Rubin, the Johns Hopkins University
> researcher responsible for the Diebold investigation, who Admitted he
serves
> on the board of VoteHere, which is run by the following right-wingers!
Which
> is also a member of the same special interest group lobbying to push
> E-voting everywhere.

Sorry, I thought we were talking about the Diebold voting machines, not a
secret cabal plotting to take over Western civilization. My bad.

> a.. Chairman of the VoteHere board of directors: Admiral Bill Owens.a
member
> of the ultra- conservative hawkish Defense Policy Board, also chaired by
> Newt Gingrich, Henry Kissinger, Richard Perle, Dan Quayle, James Woolsey
> a.. Director of VoteHere: former CIA director, head of the George Bush
> School of Business, Robert Gates.
>
> The investigation was a farce! The source code for the machines was Leaked
> and spread around the Net.

An early version of the code was left unsecured, and was downloaded and
reviewed. By making some relatively unlikely assumptions regarding the
intended configuration of the system, the Johns Hopkins panel was able to
assert insecurity. If some more realistic assumptions are used, the
likelihood of tampering is very low.

> The point is that most of the e-voting maching companies are not just
> Republican controlled, but actually friends and former associates to Bush
> people. That doesn't send up a REd Flag for you??? But I guess I must be a
> conspiracy nut to point out these facts. Doesn't it make you feel a bit
> nervous that 2 former heads of the CIA are running election machine
> companies??? Hello?????

Does it bother you that most CEOs are Republicans? Would you feel much
better if successful companies were forced to appoint Democrats to their top
positions?

Would you prefer a president who had no connections to society or industry?
Would you prefer the voting machines be developed by a company *not* run by
a Republican?

And yes, I think anyone who gets their news from infowars, conspiracyplanet,
Alex Jones, or any other group of nut cases like that is a conspiracy nut.

> ...Continue to bury your head in the sand....or read this
> http://www.infowars.com/saved%20pages/northwoods.pdf

Continue to believe anything you want, don't expect anyone rational to agree
with you.

Diebold is a 150+ year old company with a sterling reputation in security
services and products. They have been in business since long before G. H.
W. and G. W. Bush were alive, and will continue long after they are dead.
And in my opinion, anyone who thinks a company like that would risk their
reputation and livelihood simply to help a sitting president win an election
is overreacting.


All_Seeing_Eye

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Sep 5, 2003, 5:35:32 PM9/5/03
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LOL!
nice try, but you seemed to have ignored to fact that the Johns Hopkins
panel was headed by Avi Rubin, chairman of VoteHere, and has heavy ties to
the aforementioned conservatives, and a member of the same lobby group as
Diebold. I guess you can't comprehend the 'Fix' there, i.e., a very massive
conflict of interest.

Keep up the wonderful propaganda!
Peace.


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Mike Smith

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Sep 5, 2003, 6:05:50 PM9/5/03
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On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:35:32 GMT, "All_Seeing_Eye"
<golo...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>LOL!
>nice try, but you seemed to have ignored to fact that the Johns Hopkins
>panel was headed by Avi Rubin, chairman of VoteHere, and has heavy ties to
>the aforementioned conservatives, and a member of the same lobby group as
>Diebold. I guess you can't comprehend the 'Fix' there, i.e., a very massive
>conflict of interest.
>
>Keep up the wonderful propaganda!
>Peace.
>

Yea... propaganda.....

You ignorant lying liberals have been attempting to make mountains out
of mole hills for the past 3 years. Your stupid whine about "the fix"
is no different

What a tool.....

Mike Smith

Bill Walker

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Sep 5, 2003, 6:17:30 PM9/5/03
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"Mike Smith" <m...@wt.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 21:35:32 GMT, "All_Seeing_Eye"
> <golo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >LOL!
> >nice try, but you seemed to have ignored to fact that the Johns Hopkins
> >panel was headed by Avi Rubin, chairman of VoteHere, and has heavy ties
to
> >the aforementioned conservatives, and a member of the same lobby group as
> >Diebold. I guess you can't comprehend the 'Fix' there, i.e., a very
massive
> >conflict of interest.
> >
> >Keep up the wonderful propaganda!
> >Peace.
> >
>
> Yea... propaganda.....
>
> You ignorant lying liberals have been attempting to make mountains out
> of mole hills for the past 3 years. Your stupid whine about "the fix"
> is no different
>
> What a tool.....
>
> Mike Smith
> >
Go flush a toilet, Mikey..
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