MEETUP: This Saturday, Genuine Joe's, 2PM

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Sukant Hajra

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Oct 1, 2010, 3:16:08 PM10/1/10
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I called Genuine Joe's to confirm reservations. We're fine for this
weekend, but there's some quad-weekly groups that have gobbled up a
lot of Saturday time, which competes with us in alternation. So
you'll see that I shifted the next meetup after tomorrows (Oct. 16) to
5PM. The calendar is at http://austinfp.org.

This conflict is likely to stand through the end of the year.
Saturday morning/afternoon is just really popular. If we decide to
just meetup at 5PM regularly, I think we might avoid this conflict all
together, and I can book a ton of rooms in advance.

We can talk about it tomorrow too.


Language Stuff I'm thinking About
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By the way, true to my spirit of never studying what I said I was
going to, I ended up trying to think deeply about a Scala library
called scalaz. The authors of that library seem to be hell-bent on
avoiding subtype polymorphism and instead using implicits to emulate
Haskell type classes. Tony Morris seems to insist that subtype
polymorphism isn't needed at all. So the task I have ahead of me is
to

1. Prove or disprove the existence of a transformation of subtype
polymorphism to type classes in the general case (I'm staying in
Scala, since that's my language of study right now).

2. See how tedious implicits are to comprehend, and also gauge whether
it introduces too much complexity.

A lot of people transitioning from Java to Scala have made blanket
"implicits can be really confusing, so avoid them" as though it were
as bad as reflection-based hacking. However, I wonder if this
admonition is more for ad hoc implicits. Perhaps if there's a strong
idiom behind the implicit usage, it won't be so bad.

Anyway, that's what I'm thinking about right now. If anyone has any
insights, please let me know.

-Sukant

Sean Duckett

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Oct 1, 2010, 3:21:31 PM10/1/10
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"Hooray", says the guy who's been cycling for five hours on Saturday
morning and taking a nap afterward instead of sleeping @ GJ's.

(yeah, I know.)

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Sukant Hajra

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Oct 1, 2010, 9:38:42 AM10/1/10
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Sukant Hajra

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Oct 1, 2010, 8:25:50 PM10/1/10
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Sorry about the other redundant post. My E-mail proxy had a glitch
this morning.

On Oct 1, 2:21 pm, Sean Duckett <sduck...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> "Hooray", says the guy who's been cycling for five hours on Saturday
> morning and taking a nap afterward instead of sleeping @ GJ's.

Not sure I 100% grokked Sean's comment, but I wanted to make sure I
was really clear about the times, because maybe the E-mail was
confusing:

2PM Saturday, Oct 2 (tomorrow)
5PM Saturday, Oct16

That's about as far as I'm willing to say I know this far, since there
was that other group that's grabbed up Saturday slots.

Sean, were you suggesting you'd prefer a 5PM time because of your
biking routine?

-Sukant

Sean Duckett

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Oct 1, 2010, 10:09:33 PM10/1/10
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On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Sukant Hajra <w6fbr...@snkmail.com> wrote:
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> Sean, were you suggesting you'd prefer a 5PM time because of your
> biking routine?

Your email made perfect sense to me (you grokked mine well) and I
would surely prefer 5pm...but don't work around me; ya'll have
families whereas I don't. I probably won't make it until the 16th,
unless I show-up at 3pm or later (hit or miss if anyone's still
around, I guess, but a good time for coffee.)

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Sean

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