Alphanumeric rollout, NSW

[Hubert Lam]

Hi all

What are your expectations/predictions for the pending alphanumeric rollout?

I'm presuming M1/Metroad is not one of the first, as it's one of the longest roads and to suddenly see coverplates falling off signs everywhere would be unrealistic.

I have hopes that A4/M4 will be one of the first, as it's relatively short and almost all the signage has been replaced -- much like the Metroad rollout 20 years ago when the strange hexagonal sign first appeared! :p

Your thoughts? :)

[Musa Hodzic]

I had similar thoughts, M4, M5 & M2 to be one of the first for Sydney area. Then A3, A6, A44 & Cumberland Hwy.

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[Paul Rands]

I would suggest the motorways in Sydney will be first, followed by the A and B routes in the metro area. These are mostly short lengths of road, though I would suggest M31 will be rolled out during the same time as the rest of the route.

I think there will be a number of holes that will need filling, as there's still quite a few non-alpha ready signs around, even in Sydney.

Either way, it will be interesting.

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[Leo Giusti]

I wonder if Metroad 1 but not the rest of M1 will be converted.

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[hubertla...@gmail.com]

I have a feeling A3 might be one of the first cabs off the rank, as most of the signs along the route are alpha-ready.

 

M2 would be a good candidate too.

 

Bring it on pleassssseeeee! J

[Paul Rands]

I think M2 is totally alpha ready West of Pennant Hills Rd, thanks to the M7 duplex that will run along to Pennant Hills Rd

Can't wait to see the pix everyone takes of the updated signs. 

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[Leo Giusti]

Has the User MR3 sign on MR4 been replaced?

[hubertla...@gmail.com]

Sorry Leo, what is the User MR3 sign? :p

 

thanks

[Leo Giusti]

I meant the Use MR3 sign, the blue one, I think it's for Sydney Markets.

[Leo Giusti]

This one http://goo.gl/maps/08Lx8

[hubertla...@gmail.com]

Aha the Sydney Markets, South Coast sign hasn’t been replaced :p

[mubd1234]

I drove past there a few days ago, and it hasn't been replaced.

The actual contracts drawn up for the alpha replacement are called "Installation of Sign Face to the Existing Sign Structure in Sydney and NSW Regional Areas (MAB)" and the duration is from the 20th of December last year to the 19th of December this year, at a cost of a cool $3,300,000.

[Jason Kumar]

Has the M7 been formally rolled out? (ie. do people know the signs on the M7 are part of the new alpha numeric network)? For me it would make sense to roll-out M7/A7 first as a complete route, followed by the M2 given the M2/M7 duplex.

[Sam Laybutt]

There is no A7 anymore. RMS, in their infinite wisdom, has decided that A28 should be the continuous north-south link from the Hume to the Pacific, rather than M7/A7.

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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 19:11:41 +1100

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[Jason Kumar]

...but M7 is the superior route between the Hume and Pacific (with a gap soon to be filled)?

[Sam Laybutt]

Indeed. One of several completely retarded decisions which ruin an otherwise reasonably well set up system. 

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[Leo Giusti]

I wonder if that decision was made by the PM who is a contractor and not a regular RMS G&D employee.

[mubd1234]

"You don't have to go through Sydney to get from Canberra to Newcastle, you just need to get on the M31, continue on the M5 and take the M7 exit, then continue on the M2/M7 and then take the M7/M1 exit. Got it?"

"Que?"

[davis]

M31, M5 and M7 all meet a one junction, at least.

[Leo Giusti]

Would you say A28 also meets at that junction or do you consider the CVW interchange to be seperate?

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[T B]

That whole junction could be considered one, as well as the Beech Road one.

 

From: Leo Giusti

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Would you say A28 also meets at that junction or do you consider the CVW interchange to be seperate?

On Feb 27, 2013 9:05 PM, "davis" <hornet...@gmail.com> wrote:

M31, M5 and M7 all meet a one junction, at least.

 

On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 7:36:35 PM UTC+11, mubd1234 wrote:

"You don't have to go through Sydney to get from Canberra to Newcastle, you just need to get on the M31, continue on the M5 and take the M7 exit, then continue on the M2/M7 and then take the M7/M1 exit. Got it?"

 

"Que?"

           

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[T B]

The Cross Roads West?

[davis]

I would say it doesn't really matter because people only use arterial roads in that area out of local necessity or their own stupidity.

[Leo Giusti]

My only other question re A28, is - Should it have really been A77 to be a companion of M/A7? Then A7 could be seen as a continuation of either M7 or A77.

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[T B]

A77 would make sense considering its past as SR77 and Metroad 7. Stupid decision not to use A7 though.

 

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My only other question re A28, is - Should it have really been A77 to be a companion of M/A7? Then A7 could be seen as a continuation of either M7 or A77.

On 27 February 2013 23:04, davis <hornet...@gmail.com> wrote:

I would say it doesn't really matter because people only use arterial roads in that area out of local necessity or their own stupidity.

On Wednesday, February 27, 2013 9:46:20 PM UTC+11, Leo Giusti wrote:

Would you say A28 also meets at that junction or do you consider the CVW interchange to be seperate?

 

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[Michael Mak]

The current M7 could have been marked as M8 when it was opened in 2005 and the MR7 could become A7 and the current MR10 could stay as A10. 

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[T B]

Wasn’t it intended to be M8/MTR8 originally?

[Leo Giusti]

I like that idea as well except from a planning view Westlink replaced the NH in Western Sydney, so it makes sense to move the route number onto the replacement.

[mubd1234]

I think they should have made companion routes for some of the main motorway routes, like how the M5 East has D5 running alongside it, with the D changed to an A. A detour of the main road can be followed where there's an accident, or if people want an alternative to the motorway for other reasons.

[T B]

I guess we should be glad their new system is nowhere near as messy as the QLD one lol

[Michael Mak]

True otherwise we would have a couple of A2s, A7s, A6s lying around the states lol.

Michael 

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[Leo Giusti]

It could also be argued that the Pacific Highway should be A11 if companion routes were signed as Ano.no. instead of A83.

[T B]

That whole situation with the Pacific Highway on the Central Coast (decommissioning, recommissioning, Central Coast Highway etc) is ridiculous. Just have it as A83/B83 and then A11 from Doyalson.

[Sam Laybutt]

That's the popular rumour on here since I first joined about 10 years ago. Never seen any evidence to confirm it though. 

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[Sam Laybutt]

A7 is the continuation of M7 - A77 is not relevant. A77 doesn't fit in the numbering pattern either, which is A/M routes = 1-50, B routes = 51-99

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Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2013 00:10:01 +1100

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[Sam Laybutt]

I can see some value in the detour routes but I don't think companion routes are a good idea. The whole point is to guide stranger drivers onto the main routes, not to confuse them with a thousand different choices. It would also then lead to question of why there's no 'companion' route for ordinary arterials either - a crash on these is likely to have just as much traffic impact.

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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2013 05:25:53 -0800
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[Michael Mak]

Any time now ! 

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[Leo Giusti]

I wonder if I will find any new alphas on M4, A40, A44 or A28 on my way home from TAFE.

[Michael Mak]

The rain has probably been preventing RMS from removing the coverplates - hopefully once the weather clears up, we will see starting seeing some alphas.

Michael

[Leo Giusti]

Not a single alpha on my normal route home, just the usual Met road and State Route Shields.

[Musa Hodzic]

As much as it is exciting to see the new rollout happening, I'm sad
that after this year the shields will become past the same way the
yellow centre lines did. I loved the shield system, the only thing
about it is that they never promoted it or informed the public on how
to use it. For us "roadgeeks" (if I may), it wasn't an issue.

[hubertla...@gmail.com]

Slackos! I would've expecetd it rain hail or shine! :p :p :p

haha

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[mubd1234]

Those cherry pickers would be nice lightning conductors.

[hubertla...@gmail.com]

Talking about cherry pickers… I used the M4/A6 westbound exit (hey that was brief but succinct!) this evening at around 10.30 pm and noticed two utes, a cherry picker and quite a few workmen there very close to the M4 overbridge.

 

Unsure whether it has to do with removing cover plates or not though :p

[Michael Mak]

There have been night roadworks along A44 and A6 over the last few days and 2 northbound lanes of A6 near the A44 and M4 have been closed as a result. So that could be it but I hope they were there to get rid if the coverplates!

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[Musa Hodzic]

Hmmm... OK, if I see any I'll pull up and ask if I could get any of
the shield style coverplates.

[Paul Rands]

If you do get some Musa, I am looking for a couple. :)

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[B. J. Winzer]

I wouldn't mind the rain preventing me from going to work, but I fear if I used that as an excuse, I would find myself out of a job...

[B. J. Winzer]

Amen to that Musa - couldn't agree more

[mubd1234]

I saw nothing on my commute to uni - travelled down Cleveland, Abercrombie, Wattle, Anzac Bridge and Victoria Road during the AM and along the length of James Ruse Drive, JRD to Coleman St on the M4 and Victoria Road on the way back.

[Michael Mak]

I saw nothing when driving from Windsor to Sylvania using A9, A2, A40, A28, M4, A3, A1 last night.

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[Jason Kumar]

I didn't see much on Saturday night either using A4, M4, A28, A40, A2, M7 and M4.

[hubertla...@gmail.com]

Nothing along the length of M1 from General Holmes Drive to Falcon St either. In fact, plenty of signs not alpha ready!

 

None on A8 either L

[mubd1234]

Wait, who or what got everyone so worked up about March 1 being the day that the coverplate fairies would wave their magic wands?

[Paul Rands]

So far lots of new alpha ready signs in the Illawarra but nothing uncovered yet. And the RMS here are still rolling out new signs, including replacing one on the last few weeks on the unnumbered section of memorial drive approaching princes hwy

Paul Rands

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[Leo Giusti]

The media release from September last years says the roll out will start in March but not when in March.

[Sam Laybutt]

Nothing here in WA yet :p

 

[hubertla...@gmail.com]

One other question:

 

Whilst browsing OzRoads just then, I noticed the Hume Highway at Tarcutta is signed as the Hume Motorway.

 

http://ozroads.com.au/NSW/Special/MAB/452.jpg

 

 

Doesn’t the Hume Motorway end at Berrima? :p

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[T B]

Yes, what’s up with that?

[Sam Laybutt]

One of the many errors that need to be fixed during the rollout

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[Hubert Lam]

Here is another one: mist signage on the M1 Gore Hill Freeway and Warringah Freeway reads "Freeway" (as do bus destination indicators!). However, many of the newer signage replaced during the LCT opening days will read Motorway!

Whilst cosmetic, it seems consistency wasn't the tune of the day!

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One of the many errors that need to be fixed during the rollout

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Yes, what’s up with that?

 

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One other question:

 

Whilst browsing OzRoads just then, I noticed the Hume Highway at Tarcutta is signed as the Hume Motorway.

 

http://ozroads.com.au/NSW/Special/MAB/452.jpg

 

 

Doesn’t the Hume Motorway end at Berrima? :p

 

[Paul Rands]

Yeah there seems to be a lot of it around. I guess that's what happens when terminology that has been in use for many decades gets changed.

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[Michael Mak]

Even the RMS is still using F3 Motorway in their iPhone app.

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[davis]

"F3 Freeway" and presumably because the name and number haven't changed yet. It's only fairly recently that "F3 Freeway" started appearing in RTA/RMS media fairly broadly. I blame twitter: "Sydney-Newcastle Freeway" wastes too many precious characters...

On Monday, March 11, 2013 4:04:49 PM UTC+11, Michael Mak wrote:

Even the RMS is still using F3 Motorway in their iPhone app.

 

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[Hubert Lam]

F3 Freeway with a M1 marker. Classic botch up in the upcoming rollout :-P

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[Musa Hodzic]

LOL Hubert, I guess the "F3" will survive yet another route numbering change.

[Leo Giusti]

I can tell you guys, that LiveTraffic is no longer a RMS product  but rather a TfNSW product, but still the TMC are aware that it needs updating as I was in a impromptu meeting about how alphas affect their IT systems.

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[Mitch]

Spotted something very unusual today. At the Sheepwash Road/Illawarra Highway crossroads, B73 stickers have been placed on the exsisting signs, for the signs pointing towards Bowral SR80 is covered by B73 while the signs pointing towards Fitzroy Falls/Nowra, a smaller sticker has been placed beside the Nowra name *facepalm* Corner-cutting and cost-cutting is all I can think of behind that decision.

[Musa Hodzic]

Any photos of that stuff up?

I travelled the M7 and nothing's been done there either, no coverplates removed yet.

On 15/03/2013 9:31 PM, "Mitch" <mjc...@gmail.com> wrote:

Spotted something very unusual today. At the Sheepwash Road/Illawarra Highway crossroads, B73 stickers have been placed on the exsisting signs, for the signs pointing towards Bowral SR80 is covered by B73 while the signs pointing towards Fitzroy Falls/Nowra, a smaller sticker has been placed beside the Nowra name *facepalm* Corner-cutting and cost-cutting is all I can think of behind that decision.

[Michael Mak]

That could be the first official 'roll out' of alpha. I've travelled along the A1, A2, A3, M4, M5, A6, A9, A28, A40, A44 and B58 but haven't seen anything yet. 

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[Hubert Lam]

Sydney metro was meant to be done first :'( still waiting for those pieces of metal to automatically fall off :-S

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[Mitch]

Sorry Musa, we were in a bit of a hurry to get to where we are going.

[Mitch]

Here is some quick shots I took of the new B73 route markers on the return trip. I also noticed that at the Nowra Road intersection, the SR79 markers have been coverplated, but only at that intersection, not anywhere else alone the NR48/SR79 duplex. You will also notice on the second photo there is no B73 marker on the Nowra fingerboard, the only sign that hasn't had a route number stuck onto it.

[Paul Rands]

Thanks for taking the pix Mitch.

The cover labels look a bit poxy. I wonder if this is just a test site? If RMS do decide to go down this path, they will need to make the covers taller to hide the old shields properly. This could also be used as a temporary measure to ensure the rollout happens, and the signs would be replaced later.

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[hubertla...@gmail.com]

On the other hand, is Route 23 the only one to have all three types of road allocated?

 

M23 – Federal Highway

A23 – bypass

B23 – Monaro Highway

 

Can’t think of another route number that takes on all 3!

 

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Here is some quick shots I took of the new B73 route markers on the return trip. I also noticed that at the Nowra Road intersection, the SR79 markers have been coverplated, but only at that intersection, not anywhere else alone the NR48/SR79 duplex. You will also notice on the second photo there is no B73 marker on the Nowra fingerboard, the only sign that hasn't had a route number stuck onto it.

On Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:08:02 AM UTC+11, Mitch wrote:

Sorry Musa, we were in a bit of a hurry to get to where we are going.

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[Musa Hodzic]

All the patches look out of whack.

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[Michael Mak]

Thanks for the photos Mitch.

The patches of the NR48/SR79 sign looks a bit off - looks like they tried to fit B73 into a undersized marker.

I wonder why A48 was left out? 

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[Sam Laybutt]

The patching is pathetic. Not good at all, RMS.

Thanks for the snaps, Mitch. I've been sent a few more from B73 and will post them tonight if I have time. 

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[Paul Rands]

I am quite interested to see these pix

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[mubd1234]

Are those reflective stickers? What a shocking job. They'll probably fade and fall off after a few years. Hopefully they won't be doing this on the major routes.

[Paul Rands]

I hope they won't be doing this as a permanent fix.

It smacks of QMR crappiness..

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It’s a disease. And the symptoms are permanent facepalms.

 

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I hope they won't be doing this as a permanent fix.

 

It smacks of QMR crappiness..

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On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:30 PM, mubd1234 <mubd...@gmail.com> wrote:

Are those reflective stickers? What a shocking job. They'll probably fade and fall off after a few years. Hopefully they won't be doing this on the major routes.

On Thursday, March 21, 2013 7:56:15 AM UTC+11, Mitch wrote:

Here is some quick shots I took of the new B73 route markers on the return trip. I also noticed that at the Nowra Road intersection, the SR79 markers have been coverplated, but only at that intersection, not anywhere else alone the NR48/SR79 duplex. You will also notice on the second photo there is no B73 marker on the Nowra fingerboard, the only sign that hasn't had a route number stuck onto it.

On Saturday, March 16, 2013 9:08:02 AM UTC+11, Mitch wrote:

Sorry Musa, we were in a bit of a hurry to get to where we are going.

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[Sam Laybutt]

Here you go guys. There are some dead set shockers in there. 
http://www.ozroads.com.au/NSW/RouteNumbering/alpha/73/b73.htm


Dean also told me that there's a few more coverplates up around the outskirts of Bowral but hasn't got any photos. 

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[Paul Rands]

Well there's a lot of now f*cked signs there.

Though I didn't mind these:

http://www.ozroads.com.au/NSW/RouteNumbering/alpha/73/013_pryke_2013_03.jpg

http://www.ozroads.com.au/NSW/RouteNumbering/alpha/73/016_pryke_2013_03.jpg

http://www.ozroads.com.au/NSW/RouteNumbering/alpha/73/015_pryke_2013_03.jpg

http://www.ozroads.com.au/NSW/RouteNumbering/alpha/73/017_pryke_2013_03.jpg

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[Leo Giusti]

Do we have any info on the state of the signs on the mountains? Sam you forgot to change the caption of the main photo, it is still about the Mitchell Fwy in WA.

[Brett Watkins]

http://www.ozroads.com.au/NSW/RouteNumbering/alpha/73/008_pryke_2013_03.jpg there is a very similar sign heading into Mount Barker SA from the M1 with a B37 between the words Mount Barker and the distance.

[Sam Laybutt]

Thanks Leo. Always miss something!

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[Musa Hodzic]

I sense the quality is diminishing slowly in NSW since the RMS.

[mubd1234]

It makes sense that the coverplating jobs would look disgusting - the old route shields and new alphas have to cover the same vertical height, but the new alphas are considerably wider and therefore would look cramped on old signs. 

[Sam Laybutt]

It's not really that, it's that they are placed on signs where there's no room. If there's a shield it looks a lot better covering that rather than being bunged in whatever spare space they can find. Should've used topknots to make it look half bearable. It's just shoddy workmanship.

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[Mitch]

It gets worse. Apologies in advance for the dodgy nature of the first photo. These B73 shields have now appeared at the Illawarra Highway/Argyle Street roundabout at Moss Vale (facepalm). The RD sign here: http://goo.gl/maps/fnXoS also has a B73 shield on a coverplate, it caught me off guard so no photo of that unfortunately.

[Michael Mak]

I hope the rest of the implementation will be more forthcoming. The effort shown on B73 is pissed poor.

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On 24/03/2013, at 11:48, Mitch <mjc...@gmail.com> wrote:

> out

[Sam Laybutt]

Wat is this I don't even


Shame on you RMS!

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[Paul Rands]

Chuck, chunder,hurl!!

Hoping this is only temporary

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[mubd1234]

These ones illustrate my point of the wide coverplates over square route shields looking ugly quite nicely.

[Sam Laybutt]

I certainly hope these ones are as they aren't even on route B73

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From: paul...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 14:27:43 +1100

Subject: Re: [Aussie Highways] Alphanumeric rollout, NSW

To: aussie-...@googlegroups.com

[Sam Laybutt]

Thanks again to Dean who went and took some photos between the Illawarra and Hume Highways yesterday:
http://www.ozroads.com.au/TAS/routenumbering/current/B73/b73.htm


(new photos are north of Illawarra Highway, and the southbound RD sign at Wildes Meadow Road)



The coverplate jobs are much better on these signs.

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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 00:38:26 -0700

From: mubd...@gmail.com
To: aussie-...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Aussie Highways] Alphanumeric rollout, NSW

[Leo Giusti]

That link is for the Bat an Highway Sam

[Sam Laybutt]

Not having a good weekend, hahaCorrect link here:

http://www.ozroads.com.au/NSW/RouteNumbering/alpha/73/b73.htm


Thanks Leo.

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Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 22:25:26 +1100
Subject: RE: [Aussie Highways] Alphanumeric rollout, NSW
From: ttd...@gmail.com
To: aussie-...@googlegroups.com

[Leo Giusti]

I meant to say Batman also, the link at the back of the NSW B73 page to go back says WA and points to a broken NSW link.