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David Springthorpe

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Oct 4, 2008, 3:49:27 AM10/4/08
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Hey ppl, don't forget to put your cocks forward before you go to bed.

Simon Gronow

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Oct 4, 2008, 4:00:31 AM10/4/08
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Interesting choice of words

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ray

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Oct 4, 2008, 4:18:18 AM10/4/08
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No, just a top-posting, cross-posting, utter wanker. Smeg off, Troll.

Avery

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Oct 4, 2008, 4:40:43 AM10/4/08
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On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 00:49:27 -0700 (PDT), David Springthorpe <GordonLig...@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hey ppl, don't forget to put your cocks forward before you go to bed.


I always try to do that!

Incubus

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Oct 4, 2008, 5:56:35 AM10/4/08
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Setting it back could spark the imagination.


RogerM

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Oct 4, 2008, 7:00:05 PM10/4/08
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It's the only way you southerners can beat us Q'landers!

Roger

modern

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Oct 4, 2008, 9:19:49 PM10/4/08
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David Springthorpe wrote:
> Hey ppl, don't forget to put your cocks forward before you go to bed.
>

What is the actual motivation for DLS?
Is there a lobby group? Measured financial advantages?
Important to voters? A government watchdog that investigates it?
It can't only be about office workers who like to go into their gardens
after work.

modern

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Oct 4, 2008, 9:20:30 PM10/4/08
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RogerM wrote:
> It's the only way you southerners can beat us Q'landers!
>
> Roger
We think it's Europe in Victoria. A different view up north.

RogerM

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Oct 5, 2008, 12:16:42 AM10/5/08
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"modern" <se...@location.org> wrote in message news:gc94p2$vl6$2...@aioe.org...

Sorry my bad..............I forgot that one day a year.....that's a leap
year of course. :>)

Roger

Fleeced

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Oct 5, 2008, 12:55:58 AM10/5/08
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"modern" wrote:
>
> What is the actual motivation for DLS?
> Is there a lobby group? Measured financial advantages?
> Important to voters? A government watchdog that investigates it?
> It can't only be about office workers who like to go into their gardens
> after work.

People like it... waste of daylight otherwise. Days get longer in
summer - earlier sunrise, later sunset. Later sunset is good, but
early sunrise is a pain in the arse... so we eliminate that problem
by putting clocks forward, which as an added bonus, extends
our evening sunlight even more.

Initially, I believe there was some talk of reduced energy usage
(as less lighting was required), but I suspect that is longer all that
significant.

There is some evidence that later daylight hours boost retail, and
can reduce traffic accidents, but mostly it's because people like
it (at least in NSW).

I'm glad they extended it this year.

Cheers,
Fleeced


ray

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Oct 5, 2008, 1:53:13 AM10/5/08
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Daylight Saving, AKA Summer Time, originally came about first in the UK
during World War 1 as a supposed means of increasing war production.
Whether it worked is open to question. An attempt was first made to
introduce it in Australia early in World War II, but there were
sufficient objections that it was not adopted, so we had to wait until
1973 when the supposed recreational benefits alone carried the day.
Ray

modern

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Oct 5, 2008, 10:52:51 AM10/5/08
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That's not the answer I was after. People like it, then it exists,
someone is deciding to act on it.
I just wish the time of day would actually be that.

modern

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Oct 5, 2008, 10:53:41 AM10/5/08
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I'd like a referendum on it to see how much people like it.

Zapkvr

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Oct 5, 2008, 4:25:10 PM10/5/08
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It saves electricity.

Zapkvr

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Oct 5, 2008, 5:23:35 PM10/5/08
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> I just wish the time of day would actually be that.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Well you start right here. The time of day is not an absolute. It is a
person made construct.

dechucka

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Oct 5, 2008, 5:38:17 PM10/5/08
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"modern" <se...@location.org> wrote in message news:gcakdo$dke$2...@aioe.org...

there have been


Noddy

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Oct 5, 2008, 7:41:51 PM10/5/08
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"modern" <se...@location.org> wrote in message news:gcakdo$dke$2...@aioe.org...

> I'd like a referendum on it to see how much people like it.

I'd like a blowjob from Catherine Zeta-Jones. Lets see who gets lucky first.

--
Regards,
Noddy.


annily

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Oct 5, 2008, 7:53:23 PM10/5/08
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Not recently, at least here in SA. Unfortunately, I think it would still
be preferred by the majority.

modern

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Oct 5, 2008, 8:39:47 PM10/5/08
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Am I being flamed in all these responses? I'm afraid to look.

John_H

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Oct 5, 2008, 8:44:07 PM10/5/08
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Zapkvr wrote:

modern wrote:
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>> What is the actual motivation for DLS?
>> Is there a lobby group?  Measured financial advantages?
>> Important to voters?  A government watchdog that investigates it?
>> It can't only be about office workers who like to go into their gardens
>> after work.
>
>It saves electricity.

How?

Surely the minuscule amount of electricity saved because households
run their lights for an hour less (if in fact they do) would be
immeasurable against the total consumption of a modern city.

--
John H

jcr_au

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Oct 5, 2008, 9:10:19 PM10/5/08
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> Surely the minuscule amount of electricity saved because households
> run their lights for an hour less (if in fact they do) would be
> immeasurable against the total consumption of a modern city.
>
> --
> John H

I think the latest research from OS suggests that the savings are less
than 0.5%, if there is any at all, but one of my sons nearly got
caught out in the US in March (still winter for them then) when he
wasn't aware daylight savings was starting and had to get to the
airport VERY quickly to catch his plane. He didn't see any publicity
at all about it coming in, and the shuttle company he had booked for a
4.00 am pick up didn't warn him.

John r

to...@altavista.com

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Oct 5, 2008, 10:30:17 PM10/5/08
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On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 13:25:10 -0700 (PDT), Zapkvr <ke...@zappy.com.au>
wrote:

I don't think that this has been the experience gere in "The West".

Last two summers where we have had DLS, power consumption actually
went up.

Just think, everybody leaving already cooled buildings, rushing home
at near the hottest part of the day, then switching on their
airconditioners to cool off again.

Mr.T

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Oct 5, 2008, 11:54:21 PM10/5/08
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"modern" <se...@location.org> wrote in message news:gcakc6$dke$1...@aioe.org...

> That's not the answer I was after.

What were you after?

>People like it, then it exists, someone is deciding to act on it.

Which is how the world pretty much works.

> I just wish the time of day would actually be that.

You do realise ANY "time of day" is simply a man made concept in the first
place? Time duration is a little more standardised, but only by agreement of
definition.

MrT.


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George W Frost

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Oct 6, 2008, 12:41:12 AM10/6/08
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"Terry Heinz" <no-e...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 15:55:58 +1100, "Fleeced" <fle...@mail.com> wrote:
>
>>"modern" wrote:
>>>
>>> What is the actual motivation for DLS?
>>> Is there a lobby group? Measured financial advantages?
>>> Important to voters? A government watchdog that investigates it?
>>> It can't only be about office workers who like to go into their gardens
>>> after work.
>
> I'm retired now but when I was an office worker I still didn't like
> daylight savings. Then as now I was an early riser 'early to bed early
> to rise' so in a couple of months I could be on about how I'm having
> trouble getting to sleep because it's still daylight outside. ;-)
>
> <snip>

>
>>Initially, I believe there was some talk of reduced energy usage
>>(as less lighting was required), but I suspect that is longer all that
>>significant.
>
> I walk my dogs first thing in the morning. I had gotten used to not
> having to turn the lights on when I get out of bed, but this morning
> my whole house had to be lit up like a Christmas tree so I could see
> where I was going. :-)
>
> I didn't walk the dogs Sunday morning because I probably have more
> clocks than a clock factory so I had to spend the morning adjusting
> clocks, videos etc.
> --
>
> Terry Heinz.
>


You have 57 of them?


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Zapkvr

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Oct 6, 2008, 3:55:34 AM10/6/08
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I'm afraid you are wrong on that score. There are sound public policy
reasons for doing this. It might not affect peak loads on the hottest
days but it quite definitely reduces overall consumption. Itd doesn't
jyst affect households either. It shifts the morning peak by an hour
as well.


Doug Jewell

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Oct 6, 2008, 8:25:13 AM10/6/08
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Terry Heinz wrote:

> What if instead of putting the clocks forward they put the clocks back
> an hour between October to March? We would then have an extra hour of
> daylight at the coolest time of the day. :-)
Apart from leaving the clocks right where they are, the idea of putting
them back an hour seems to me to be the most sensible. All the daylight
savings activists can jam this idea of having an extra hour of stifling
afternoon heat up their jaxies as far as I'm concerned. Mornings are the
best time in summer to get out, go for a walk, enjoy the outdoors before
the sun gets too much of a hold and makes the day unbearable. I'd
happily handle an extra hour of morning (ie go to work at what is really
9 instead of 8).
DLS might make a little bit of sense in the southern states where the
afternoon heat isn't quite as stifling, but once you get into the
northern part of the country it becomes pretty much irrelevant. B'sides,
most of QLD is already on "daylight saving" year round, because most of
the state is west of 150E, which is the longitude that GMT+10 is based on.

a.t.postings

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Oct 8, 2008, 12:42:24 AM10/8/08
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Read in and replied to via aus.tv but also seen propagated in
aus.bushwalking and aus.cars.

No precious, don't worry, you're OK.

Some comments as to why DLS was introduced.
A bit of history, some banter, all very civilised.
Catherine Zeta-Jones got lucky by missing out on meeting Noddy.
Go on - look - you know you want to.

Mind how you go. (Dixon of Dock Green)
And be careful out there. (Hill St. Blues)
(Apologies for belated relevance to aus.tv)
--
An atheist reportedly has a bumper sticker that reads
"Honk if you love Jesus".
When someone honks, he gives them the finger.

Peter Smyth

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Oct 8, 2008, 1:25:16 AM10/8/08
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"annily" <ann...@ihopethisdoesntexist.com> wrote in message
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....and it does not require one. It is decided by the State Governments.


Peter Smyth

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Oct 8, 2008, 1:26:55 AM10/8/08
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"Zapkvr" <ke...@zappy.com.au> wrote in message
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On Oct 5, 12:19 pm, modern <s...@location.org> wrote:
> It saves electricity.

I don't think that has anything to do with why we have DLS.


John_H

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Oct 8, 2008, 2:25:00 AM10/8/08
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a.t.postings wrote:

>An atheist reportedly has a bumper sticker that reads
>"Honk if you love Jesus".
>When someone honks, he gives them the finger.

Surely you mean racist!

I've got nothing at all against Mexican peasants. :)

--
John H

Fleeced

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Oct 8, 2008, 3:22:04 AM10/8/08
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"Doug Jewell" wrote:
>
> Terry Heinz wrote:
>
>> What if instead of putting the clocks forward they put the clocks back
>> an hour between October to March? We would then have an extra hour of
>> daylight at the coolest time of the day. :-)
>
> Apart from leaving the clocks right where they are, the idea of putting
> them back an hour seems to me to be the most sensible. All the daylight
> savings activists can jam this idea of having an extra hour of stifling
> afternoon heat up their jaxies as far as I'm concerned. Mornings are the
> best time in summer to get out, go for a walk, enjoy the outdoors before
> the sun gets too much of a hold and makes the day unbearable.

You realise, of course, that this is why we put the clocks forward?
So that we're not sleeping during what you consider the best part
of the day?

Tomorrow, sunrise in Sydney is around 6:23am (with "first light"
at 5:58)... If we put clocks back instead of forward, it would be
4:23am (first light, 3:38) - and the days are still getting longer for
a couple more months.

Cheers,
Fleeced


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Fleeced

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Oct 8, 2008, 6:18:13 AM10/8/08
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"Terry Heinz" wrote:

>
> "Fleeced" wrote:
>>
>>You realise, of course, that this is why we put the clocks forward?
>>So that we're not sleeping during what you consider the best part
>>of the day?
>>
>>Tomorrow, sunrise in Sydney is around 6:23am (with "first light"
>>at 5:58)... If we put clocks back instead of forward, it would be
>>4:23am (first light, 3:38) - and the days are still getting longer for
>>a couple more months.
>
> Fleeced I imagine that you are pulling your dick. (if you have one).
> I woke up this morning and the whole household was in darkness
> whereas now at 19:02 it is still light outside.

Maybe you should try opening the blinds, and your household would
see the light... or maybe you get up too early.

The sun does indeed rise at 6:23am tomorrow. This isn't opinion,
it is an observable fact. Even at this time, most people are asleep
(or just getting up).

Cheers,
Fleeced


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