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Ford trying to extort money from taxpayers (yet again).

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Wolfgang Wildeblood

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May 22, 2013, 10:26:16 PM5/22/13
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"Ford Australia says it will close its Australian manufacturing plants
in October 2016, with the loss of hundreds of jobs."

That's cool how they announce three and a half years in advance that
they'll close up shop right about the time of the next election. That
gives the unionist thugs plenty of time to try to pressure Prime
Minister Abbott into giving them yet another hand out of tax-payers'
money to stay.

Good riddance to bad rubbish, I say, and it can't happen soon enough.
Once Ford and GM bugger off there'll be no reason to artificially
inflate the price of better quality cars to "protect Australian
jobs" (and subsidize American shareholders). The roads become safer,
citizens save money in the direct out-of-pocket cost of buying a car,
and also indirectly save hundreds of millions of dollars a year in
corporate welfare. Win, win and win!

Coach

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May 22, 2013, 10:43:04 PM5/22/13
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On May 23, 12:26 pm, Wolfgang Wildeblood
100 percent agree with you.

DavidW

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May 22, 2013, 11:00:51 PM5/22/13
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0 percent agree with you. Ford isn't asking for another handout and won't be
offered one. It's pulling out. It's done and dusted. They are leaving.


Wolfgang Wildeblood

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May 22, 2013, 11:18:22 PM5/22/13
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Something they've promised before, but failed to deliver on. When
they're actually gone, I''ll believe it. Until then, there's always
the risk a weak-willed, weak-minded government will offer them another
bribe to stay. Governments of both stripes have been propping up the
vehicle non-industry for 60 years with money that should have gone to
"schools, hospitals and better roads".

Je�us

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May 23, 2013, 12:20:14 AM5/23/13
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On Wed, 22 May 2013 19:26:16 -0700 (PDT), Wolfgang Wildeblood
<wolfgangw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Good riddance to bad rubbish, I say, and it can't happen soon enough.
>Once Ford and GM bugger off there'll be no reason to artificially
>inflate the price of better quality cars to "protect Australian
>jobs" (and subsidize American shareholders). The roads become safer,
>citizens save money in the direct out-of-pocket cost of buying a car,
>and also indirectly save hundreds of millions of dollars a year in
>corporate welfare. Win, win and win!


About bloody time people started thinking this way.

Coach

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May 23, 2013, 12:20:33 AM5/23/13
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On May 23, 1:18 pm, Wolfgang Wildeblood <wolfgangwildebl...@gmail.com>
And baby bonuses (plasma TV's)

Wolfgang Wildeblood

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May 23, 2013, 12:37:44 AM5/23/13
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My, Grandma, what a big TV you have.

All the better for watching your ABC on, my dear.

Trevor

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May 24, 2013, 2:17:13 AM5/24/13
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"Wolfgang Wildeblood" <wolfgangw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> And baby bonuses (plasma TV's)
>
}My, Grandma, what a big TV you have.
}All the better for watching your ABC on, my dear.

The baby bonus was a Lieberal bribe, and how many Lieberals watch the ABC,
at least not until they privatise it :-(

Trevor.



Trevor

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May 24, 2013, 2:27:24 AM5/24/13
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"Wolfgang Wildeblood" <wolfgangw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Ford Australia says it will close its Australian manufacturing plants
> in October 2016, with the loss of hundreds of jobs."
> Good riddance to bad rubbish, I say, and it can't happen soon enough.
> Once Ford and GM bugger off there'll be no reason to artificially
> inflate the price of better quality cars to "protect Australian
> jobs" (and subsidize American shareholders). The roads become safer,
> citizens save money in the direct out-of-pocket cost of buying a car,
> and also indirectly save hundreds of millions of dollars a year in
> corporate welfare. Win, win and win!

Not often I agree with you, but I get so annoyed at how much taxpayer/car
buyer money is spent by both parties propping up the car industry, when far
more jobs have disappeared in the electrical, electronics and
telecommunications industries without a murmur.
Ford decided not to build the Focus here knowing the Falcon is on the way to
oblivion, so AFAIC they already made the decision to pull out before their
last government handout! :-(
And surely they only announce it 3 years in advance in the hope of getting
even more taxpayer money :-(

Trevor.


Wolfgang Wildeblood

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May 24, 2013, 3:02:42 AM5/24/13
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On May 24, 2:27 pm, "Trevor" <tre...@home.net> wrote:
> "Wolfgang Wildeblood" <wolfgangwildebl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
The real obscenity is that when the tariffs are finally removed from
imported cars the prices won't fall. The manufacturers will just apply
the Australia tax that applies to every other kind of manufactured
goods. And when challenged, they'll spout some hare-brained excuse
like,"Australia's safety and emission standards are lower than
California's, so we have to go to the extra expense of removing safety
features for the Australian market." And the freaks in Canberra will
say, "That's okay then."

Petzl

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May 24, 2013, 5:24:40 AM5/24/13
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YES
having overseas landlords running a subsidized car industry means they
wont place any emphasis on exports. GM and Ford are more interested in
exporting from America, Toyota from Japan, best dump the lot
--
Petzl
Christian Democratic Party
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxVMqgmkkYc

Trevor

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May 26, 2013, 1:07:12 AM5/26/13
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"Petzl" <pet...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 24 May 2013 16:27:24 +1000, "Trevor" <tre...@home.net> wrote:
>>"Wolfgang Wildeblood" <wolfgangw...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:72334866-9ecb-4a00...@s6g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
>>> "Ford Australia says it will close its Australian manufacturing plants
>>> in October 2016, with the loss of hundreds of jobs."
>>> Good riddance to bad rubbish, I say, and it can't happen soon enough.
>>> Once Ford and GM bugger off there'll be no reason to artificially
>>> inflate the price of better quality cars to "protect Australian
>>> jobs" (and subsidize American shareholders). The roads become safer,
>>> citizens save money in the direct out-of-pocket cost of buying a car,
>>> and also indirectly save hundreds of millions of dollars a year in
>>> corporate welfare. Win, win and win!
>>
>>Not often I agree with you, but I get so annoyed at how much taxpayer/car
>>buyer money is spent by both parties propping up the car industry, when
>>far
>>more jobs have disappeared in the electrical, electronics and
>>telecommunications industries without a murmur.
>>Ford decided not to build the Focus here knowing the Falcon is on the way
>>to
>>oblivion, so AFAIC they already made the decision to pull out before their
>>last government handout! :-(
>>And surely they only announce it 3 years in advance in the hope of getting
>>even more taxpayer money :-(
>>
> YES
> having overseas landlords running a subsidized car industry means they
> wont place any emphasis on exports. GM and Ford are more interested in
> exporting from America, Toyota from Japan, best dump the lot


Right, why anyone calls it the "Australian car industry" when they are all
foreign owned is a mystery to me. And yet we already have calls to increase
tarrifs, as if that will make us all want to go out and buy Falcons :-(

Personally I think there should be a blanket ban on subsiding ANY company
more than the amount per job equivalent to the dole. MANY companies have
recieved far more than that for decades unfortunately, with no means
testing! :-(

Trevor.


ALP = Arrogrant Liars & Pretenders

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May 26, 2013, 7:36:18 PM5/26/13
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In the US bailout, Wall Street (investment banks) got about $750b, the
auto-industry around $250b but small business got nothing.

Crooks are running the show - for sure.


--
Cleanup Australia Day - 15 September

ALP = Arrogrant Liars & Pretenders

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May 26, 2013, 7:37:09 PM5/26/13
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0/10 for your comprehension skills.



> It's pulling out. It's done and dusted. They are leaving.
>
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