> >>> I don't think so - Betham's a very good player to force the rest of > >>> the team to defend in the middle period of the game. That's his > >>> strength and I think that means he doesn't start the game, and won't > >>> close it out unless the game is very close.
> >> Monty is the captain (and no one else gets close) so he starts. > >> If he needs a break, it will be short-lived if the game is in the > >> balance. He must be there at the death to rally the troops.
> > I think he's an ideal club captain because he seems to pull them > > together and motivate them - the period where he acted as the > > watercarrier gave some insights into his leadership abilities. I'm > > not convinced about him as the on-field captain though because I > > don't think he's valuable enough as a player to be an 80 minute > > option. > Have a look at how they are going without him.
>>>>> I don't think so - Betham's a very good player to force the rest >>>>> of the team to defend in the middle period of the game. That's >>>>> his strength and I think that means he doesn't start the game, >>>>> and won't close it out unless the game is very close.
>>>> Monty is the captain (and no one else gets close) so he starts. >>>> If he needs a break, it will be short-lived if the game is in the >>>> balance. He must be there at the death to rally the troops.
>>> I think he's an ideal club captain because he seems to pull them >>> together and motivate them - the period where he acted as the >>> watercarrier gave some insights into his leadership abilities. I'm >>> not convinced about him as the on-field captain though because I >>> don't think he's valuable enough as a player to be an 80 minute >>> option.
> >>>>>>> I'd narrow it down even further. The props aren't doing what > >>>>>>> they are supposed to do. Jones isn't fit and as a result there > >>>>>>> is no link between the scrum and the backline. The new gameplan > >>>>>>> is give it to Ali/Sione whoever is out on the left and that's > >>>>>>> it.
> >>>>>>> Put Jobson & Te Mata in at starting prop, dump Jerry and put > >>>>>>> Vigilante on notice.
> >>>>>> I'd keep one of Jerry and Villa as starters. You need to have > >>>>>> experience in one of the props.
> >>>>>>> Latu is special he kept Buderus quiet all night. Put Leuluai in > >>>>>>> at halfback and Hohaia at stand off. Bring Jones back when he's > >>>>>>> fit.Hohaia is the only stand-off they have. Leuluai is a > >>>>>>> halfback and fuck knows what Ropati is.
> >>>>>> If Hohaia's not the standoff, then Jones is as the most > >>>>>> experienced halfback. Jones isn't fit enough to play there yet, > >>>>>> so I'd agree that send Jones off to get well. The problem is > >>>>>> that I'm not totally sure that Hohaia can play yet and so Jones > >>>>>> is probably playing at 50% because that's still considered > >>>>>> better than sticking someone else in that has no experience. > >>>>> If > >>>>>> so, I think the last 5 weeks have shown that this ploy isn't > >>>>>> doing Jones any favours. Stick a young guy in but try to get > >>>>>> Jones in playing shape for mid-May. Perenara the younger?
> >>>>>> I don't think Jerome Ropati has played much in the halves before > >>>>>> last season's injury crisis. He may be worth a go in his > >>>>>> specialist position. (The Warriors official site lists him as a > >>>>>> centre/fullback doesn't mean that he's not played in the halves > >>>>>> all his life. I suspect the official site is maintained by the > >>>>>> only people in the world who think that Jones can play in the > >>>>>> second row.)
> >>>>>>> Where their huge loss has been is in the cumulative effect that > >>>>>>> the loss of Campion and Swann have had.
> >>>>>> Yep. They need to refocus the forwards on playing with grunt ... > >>>>>> they had Campion, Guttenbeil and Swann together, with 2 on the > >>>>>> field and one on the bench at most points. The Warriors still > >>>>>> have Guttenbeil (who's now a better player, I think) but need to > >>>>>> use their squad and identify who will fill the other two roles. > >>>>>> I suspect Koopu is one of the answers and I would try Anderson > >>>>>> as the other (starting from the bench). Either that, or Te Mata > >>>>>> plays in his listed position or maybe Sullivan ?
> >>>>>> Drop Lauitiiti and make it known that for the next 10 rounds, > >>>>>> there's direct competition between him and Faumuina
> >>>>>> Side vs Bullpigs (assuming Hohaia's not fit yet but that Meli is > >>>>>> - and someone young if Meli is not ready)
> >>>>>> Webb, Faafili, Martin, Toopi, Meli, Perenara, Leuluai; Koopu, > >>>>>> Guttenbeil, Faumuina, Jobson, Latu, Villasanti > >>>>>> Subs: Temata (Prop), V. Anderson (2nd row), Lauaki (Prop) + 1 > >>>>>> young player to allow Latu to have a spell (poss. a fullback to > >>>>>> relieve Webb, or a ballplaying forward with Faumuina going to > >>>>>> hooker).
> >>>>>> Assume that you've got three subs and stick the young guy at some > >>>>>> stage.
> >>> I don't think so - Betham's a very good player to force the rest of > >>> the team to defend in the middle period of the game. That's his > >>> strength and I think that means he doesn't start the game, and won't > >>> close it out unless the game is very close.
> >>> Richard.
> >> Monty is the captain (and no one else gets close) so he starts. > >> If he needs a break, it will be short-lived if the game is in the > >> balance. He must be there at the death to put in cheap swinging arms.
> >> Kav
> > Typos corrected.
> You're just being provocative, Jack - isn't that troll-like?.
Yep.
I don't have a problem with someone trolling, though.
The post to which you are referring was intended to establish whether or not you were, in fact, serious with your opinions, which sometimes seem so inexplicable as to appear to be trolling exercises.
>>>>>>>>> I'd narrow it down even further. The props aren't doing what >>>>>>>>> they are supposed to do. Jones isn't fit and as a result there >>>>>>>>> is no link between the scrum and the backline. The new >>>>>>>>> gameplan is give it to Ali/Sione whoever is out on the left >>>>>>>>> and that's it.
>>>>>>>>> Put Jobson & Te Mata in at starting prop, dump Jerry and put >>>>>>>>> Vigilante on notice.
>>>>>>>> I'd keep one of Jerry and Villa as starters. You need to have >>>>>>>> experience in one of the props.
>>>>>>>>> Latu is special he kept Buderus quiet all night. Put Leuluai >>>>>>>>> in at halfback and Hohaia at stand off. Bring Jones back when >>>>>>>>> he's fit.Hohaia is the only stand-off they have. Leuluai is a >>>>>>>>> halfback and fuck knows what Ropati is.
>>>>>>>> If Hohaia's not the standoff, then Jones is as the most >>>>>>>> experienced halfback. Jones isn't fit enough to play there >>>>>>>> yet, so I'd agree that send Jones off to get well. The >>>>>>>> problem is that I'm not totally sure that Hohaia can play yet >>>>>>>> and so Jones is probably playing at 50% because that's still >>>>>>>> considered better than sticking someone else in that has no >>>>>>>> experience. >>>>>>> If >>>>>>>> so, I think the last 5 weeks have shown that this ploy isn't >>>>>>>> doing Jones any favours. Stick a young guy in but try to get >>>>>>>> Jones in playing shape for mid-May. Perenara the younger?
>>>>>>>> I don't think Jerome Ropati has played much in the halves >>>>>>>> before last season's injury crisis. He may be worth a go in >>>>>>>> his specialist position. (The Warriors official site lists him >>>>>>>> as a centre/fullback doesn't mean that he's not played in the >>>>>>>> halves all his life. I suspect the official site is >>>>>>>> maintained by the only people in the world who think that >>>>>>>> Jones can play in the second row.)
>>>>>>>>> Where their huge loss has been is in the cumulative effect >>>>>>>>> that the loss of Campion and Swann have had.
>>>>>>>> Yep. They need to refocus the forwards on playing with grunt >>>>>>>> ... they had Campion, Guttenbeil and Swann together, with 2 on >>>>>>>> the field and one on the bench at most points. The Warriors >>>>>>>> still have Guttenbeil (who's now a better player, I think) but >>>>>>>> need to use their squad and identify who will fill the other >>>>>>>> two roles. I suspect Koopu is one of the answers and I would >>>>>>>> try Anderson as the other (starting from the bench). Either >>>>>>>> that, or Te Mata plays in his listed position or maybe >>>>>>>> Sullivan ?
>>>>>>>> Drop Lauitiiti and make it known that for the next 10 rounds, >>>>>>>> there's direct competition between him and Faumuina
>>>>>>>> Side vs Bullpigs (assuming Hohaia's not fit yet but that Meli >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>> - and someone young if Meli is not ready)
>>>>>>>> Webb, Faafili, Martin, Toopi, Meli, Perenara, Leuluai; Koopu, >>>>>>>> Guttenbeil, Faumuina, Jobson, Latu, Villasanti >>>>>>>> Subs: Temata (Prop), V. Anderson (2nd row), Lauaki (Prop) + 1 >>>>>>>> young player to allow Latu to have a spell (poss. a fullback to >>>>>>>> relieve Webb, or a ballplaying forward with Faumuina going to >>>>>>>> hooker).
>>>>>>>> Assume that you've got three subs and stick the young guy at >>>>>>>> some stage.
>>>>> I don't think so - Betham's a very good player to force the rest >>>>> of the team to defend in the middle period of the game. That's >>>>> his strength and I think that means he doesn't start the game, >>>>> and won't close it out unless the game is very close.
>>>>> Richard.
>>>> Monty is the captain (and no one else gets close) so he starts. >>>> If he needs a break, it will be short-lived if the game is in the >>>> balance. He must be there at the death to put in cheap swinging >>>> arms.
>>>> Kav
>>> Typos corrected.
>> You're just being provocative, Jack - isn't that troll-like?.
> Yep.
> I don't have a problem with someone trolling, though.
> The post to which you are referring was intended to establish whether > or not you were, in fact, serious with your opinions, which sometimes > seem so inexplicable as to appear to be trolling exercises.
> "HTH". ;o)
When it comes to morality, I never joke. When it comes to football, I may do so but not on the important issues.
> >>>>>>>>> I'd narrow it down even further. The props aren't doing what > >>>>>>>>> they are supposed to do. Jones isn't fit and as a result there > >>>>>>>>> is no link between the scrum and the backline. The new > >>>>>>>>> gameplan is give it to Ali/Sione whoever is out on the left > >>>>>>>>> and that's it.
> >>>>>>>>> Put Jobson & Te Mata in at starting prop, dump Jerry and put > >>>>>>>>> Vigilante on notice.
> >>>>>>>> I'd keep one of Jerry and Villa as starters. You need to have > >>>>>>>> experience in one of the props.
> >>>>>>>>> Latu is special he kept Buderus quiet all night. Put Leuluai > >>>>>>>>> in at halfback and Hohaia at stand off. Bring Jones back when > >>>>>>>>> he's fit.Hohaia is the only stand-off they have. Leuluai is a > >>>>>>>>> halfback and fuck knows what Ropati is.
> >>>>>>>> If Hohaia's not the standoff, then Jones is as the most > >>>>>>>> experienced halfback. Jones isn't fit enough to play there > >>>>>>>> yet, so I'd agree that send Jones off to get well. The > >>>>>>>> problem is that I'm not totally sure that Hohaia can play yet > >>>>>>>> and so Jones is probably playing at 50% because that's still > >>>>>>>> considered better than sticking someone else in that has no > >>>>>>>> experience. > >>>>>>> If > >>>>>>>> so, I think the last 5 weeks have shown that this ploy isn't > >>>>>>>> doing Jones any favours. Stick a young guy in but try to get > >>>>>>>> Jones in playing shape for mid-May. Perenara the younger?
> >>>>>>>> I don't think Jerome Ropati has played much in the halves > >>>>>>>> before last season's injury crisis. He may be worth a go in > >>>>>>>> his specialist position. (The Warriors official site lists him > >>>>>>>> as a centre/fullback doesn't mean that he's not played in the > >>>>>>>> halves all his life. I suspect the official site is > >>>>>>>> maintained by the only people in the world who think that > >>>>>>>> Jones can play in the second row.)
> >>>>>>>>> Where their huge loss has been is in the cumulative effect > >>>>>>>>> that the loss of Campion and Swann have had.
> >>>>>>>> Yep. They need to refocus the forwards on playing with grunt > >>>>>>>> ... they had Campion, Guttenbeil and Swann together, with 2 on > >>>>>>>> the field and one on the bench at most points. The Warriors > >>>>>>>> still have Guttenbeil (who's now a better player, I think) but > >>>>>>>> need to use their squad and identify who will fill the other > >>>>>>>> two roles. I suspect Koopu is one of the answers and I would > >>>>>>>> try Anderson as the other (starting from the bench). Either > >>>>>>>> that, or Te Mata plays in his listed position or maybe > >>>>>>>> Sullivan ?
> >>>>>>>> Drop Lauitiiti and make it known that for the next 10 rounds, > >>>>>>>> there's direct competition between him and Faumuina
> >>>>>>>> Side vs Bullpigs (assuming Hohaia's not fit yet but that Meli > >>>>>>>> is > >>>>>>>> - and someone young if Meli is not ready)
> >>>>>>>> Webb, Faafili, Martin, Toopi, Meli, Perenara, Leuluai; Koopu, > >>>>>>>> Guttenbeil, Faumuina, Jobson, Latu, Villasanti > >>>>>>>> Subs: Temata (Prop), V. Anderson (2nd row), Lauaki (Prop) + 1 > >>>>>>>> young player to allow Latu to have a spell (poss. a fullback to > >>>>>>>> relieve Webb, or a ballplaying forward with Faumuina going to > >>>>>>>> hooker).
> >>>>>>>> Assume that you've got three subs and stick the young guy at > >>>>>>>> some stage.
> >>>>>> Nah, Monty has to start and finish the job
> >>>>> I don't think so - Betham's a very good player to force the rest > >>>>> of the team to defend in the middle period of the game. That's > >>>>> his strength and I think that means he doesn't start the game, > >>>>> and won't close it out unless the game is very close.
> >>>>> Richard.
> >>>> Monty is the captain (and no one else gets close) so he starts. > >>>> If he needs a break, it will be short-lived if the game is in the > >>>> balance. He must be there at the death to put in cheap swinging > >>>> arms.
> >>>> Kav
> >>> Typos corrected.
> >> You're just being provocative, Jack - isn't that troll-like?.
> > Yep.
> > I don't have a problem with someone trolling, though.
> > The post to which you are referring was intended to establish whether > > or not you were, in fact, serious with your opinions, which sometimes > > seem so inexplicable as to appear to be trolling exercises.
> > "HTH". ;o)
> When it comes to morality, I never joke. > When it comes to football, I may do so but not on the important issues.
I'm past caring about alternative opinions on the Broncos' points thieving issue right now - and I'm well aware of your opinion (hey, you copied it off a journalist, after all).
The important issue to me is that the Broncos replaced a (medicab-borne) player injured by an act of blatant foul play after the referee restarted play (and, according to their video evidence, after he was allowed to go on the third time he tried to join a twelve man side).
As I recall, the crux of your argument involved an 'advantage' to the Broncos - an advantage they lost through the stoppage of play after Bryce Gibbs' (sp?) high shot.
You're wrong, Kav, and many footie fans who admit to a hatred of my team will agree. Just like you're wrong about your opinion on 'induced' rapes, and just like you're wrong on your opinion on players who knee opposing team members in the head (credit GV for reminder), and your blind denial of the offences of Catholic 'priests' - etc., etc., ad nauseum.
I'm no left-winger, but you really take the cake. Is your head made of wood?
> >>>>> I don't think so - Betham's a very good player to force the rest > >>>>> of the team to defend in the middle period of the game. That's > >>>>> his strength and I think that means he doesn't start the game, > >>>>> and won't close it out unless the game is very close.
> >>>> Monty is the captain (and no one else gets close) so he starts. > >>>> If he needs a break, it will be short-lived if the game is in the > >>>> balance. He must be there at the death to rally the troops.
> >>> I think he's an ideal club captain because he seems to pull them > >>> together and motivate them - the period where he acted as the > >>> watercarrier gave some insights into his leadership abilities. I'm > >>> not convinced about him as the on-field captain though because I > >>> don't think he's valuable enough as a player to be an 80 minute > >>> option.
> >> Have a look at how they are going without him.
> > Do you include previous seasons in that? > No, I'll stick to the current situation thanks
In that case, I'll stck to the Manly game then :-)
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd narrow it down even further. The props aren't doing what >>>>>>>>>>> they are supposed to do. Jones isn't fit and as a result >>>>>>>>>>> there is no link between the scrum and the backline. The new >>>>>>>>>>> gameplan is give it to Ali/Sione whoever is out on the left >>>>>>>>>>> and that's it.
>>>>>>>>>>> Put Jobson & Te Mata in at starting prop, dump Jerry and put >>>>>>>>>>> Vigilante on notice.
>>>>>>>>>> I'd keep one of Jerry and Villa as starters. You need to >>>>>>>>>> have experience in one of the props.
>>>>>>>>>>> Latu is special he kept Buderus quiet all night. Put Leuluai >>>>>>>>>>> in at halfback and Hohaia at stand off. Bring Jones back >>>>>>>>>>> when he's fit.Hohaia is the only stand-off they have. >>>>>>>>>>> Leuluai is a halfback and fuck knows what Ropati is.
>>>>>>>>>> If Hohaia's not the standoff, then Jones is as the most >>>>>>>>>> experienced halfback. Jones isn't fit enough to play there >>>>>>>>>> yet, so I'd agree that send Jones off to get well. The >>>>>>>>>> problem is that I'm not totally sure that Hohaia can play yet >>>>>>>>>> and so Jones is probably playing at 50% because that's still >>>>>>>>>> considered better than sticking someone else in that has no >>>>>>>>>> experience. >>>>>>>>> If >>>>>>>>>> so, I think the last 5 weeks have shown that this ploy isn't >>>>>>>>>> doing Jones any favours. Stick a young guy in but try to get >>>>>>>>>> Jones in playing shape for mid-May. Perenara the younger?
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think Jerome Ropati has played much in the halves >>>>>>>>>> before last season's injury crisis. He may be worth a go in >>>>>>>>>> his specialist position. (The Warriors official site lists >>>>>>>>>> him as a centre/fullback doesn't mean that he's not played >>>>>>>>>> in the halves all his life. I suspect the official site is >>>>>>>>>> maintained by the only people in the world who think that >>>>>>>>>> Jones can play in the second row.)
>>>>>>>>>>> Where their huge loss has been is in the cumulative effect >>>>>>>>>>> that the loss of Campion and Swann have had.
>>>>>>>>>> Yep. They need to refocus the forwards on playing with grunt >>>>>>>>>> ... they had Campion, Guttenbeil and Swann together, with 2 >>>>>>>>>> on the field and one on the bench at most points. The >>>>>>>>>> Warriors still have Guttenbeil (who's now a better player, I >>>>>>>>>> think) but need to use their squad and identify who will >>>>>>>>>> fill the other two roles. I suspect Koopu is one of the >>>>>>>>>> answers and I would try Anderson as the other (starting from >>>>>>>>>> the bench). Either that, or Te Mata plays in his listed >>>>>>>>>> position or maybe Sullivan ?
>>>>>>>>>> Drop Lauitiiti and make it known that for the next 10 rounds, >>>>>>>>>> there's direct competition between him and Faumuina
>>>>>>>>>> Side vs Bullpigs (assuming Hohaia's not fit yet but that Meli >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> - and someone young if Meli is not ready)
>>>>>>>>>> Webb, Faafili, Martin, Toopi, Meli, Perenara, Leuluai; Koopu, >>>>>>>>>> Guttenbeil, Faumuina, Jobson, Latu, Villasanti >>>>>>>>>> Subs: Temata (Prop), V. Anderson (2nd row), Lauaki (Prop) + >>>>>>>>>> 1 young player to allow Latu to have a spell (poss. a >>>>>>>>>> fullback to relieve Webb, or a ballplaying forward with >>>>>>>>>> Faumuina going to hooker).
>>>>>>>>>> Assume that you've got three subs and stick the young guy at >>>>>>>>>> some stage.
>>>>>>>> Nah, Monty has to start and finish the job
>>>>>>> I don't think so - Betham's a very good player to force the rest >>>>>>> of the team to defend in the middle period of the game. That's >>>>>>> his strength and I think that means he doesn't start the game, >>>>>>> and won't close it out unless the game is very close.
>>>>>>> Richard.
>>>>>> Monty is the captain (and no one else gets close) so he starts. >>>>>> If he needs a break, it will be short-lived if the game is in the >>>>>> balance. He must be there at the death to put in cheap swinging >>>>>> arms.
>>>>>> Kav
>>>>> Typos corrected.
>>>> You're just being provocative, Jack - isn't that troll-like?.
>>> Yep.
>>> I don't have a problem with someone trolling, though.
>>> The post to which you are referring was intended to establish >>> whether or not you were, in fact, serious with your opinions, which >>> sometimes seem so inexplicable as to appear to be trolling >>> exercises.
>>> "HTH". ;o)
>> When it comes to morality, I never joke. >> When it comes to football, I may do so but not on the important >> issues.
> I'm past caring about alternative opinions on the Broncos' points > thieving issue right now - and I'm well aware of your opinion (hey, > you copied it off a journalist, after all).
That journalist knows his football
> The important issue to me is that the Broncos replaced a > (medicab-borne) player injured by an act of blatant foul play after > the referee restarted play (and, according to their video evidence, > after he was allowed to go on the third time he tried to join a > twelve man side).
Did Hayne restart play on his own accord or on the instigation of Darren Lockyer?
> As I recall, the crux of your argument involved an 'advantage' to the > Broncos - an advantage they lost through the stoppage of play after
Bryce Gibbs' (sp?) high shot.
They actually regained the advantage through a penalty. Then they compounded the advantage by Parker coming on (and in fact scoring a try after creating an extra man) without official sanction.
> You're wrong, Kav, and many footie fans who admit to a hatred of my > team will agree. Just like you're wrong about your opinion on > 'induced' rapes, and just like you're wrong on your opinion on > players who knee opposing team members in the head (credit GV for > reminder), and your blind denial of the offences of Catholic > 'priests' - etc., etc., ad nauseum.
It's all a matter of opinion, Jack There are at least two sides to every question; it's just at this point in time that you are on the opposite side to me on the big issues of the day. Keep an open mind mate and you might agree with me one day.
>>>>>>> I don't think so - Betham's a very good player to force the rest >>>>>>> of the team to defend in the middle period of the game. That's >>>>>>> his strength and I think that means he doesn't start the game, >>>>>>> and won't close it out unless the game is very close.
>>>>>> Monty is the captain (and no one else gets close) so he starts. >>>>>> If he needs a break, it will be short-lived if the game is in the >>>>>> balance. He must be there at the death to rally the troops.
>>>>> I think he's an ideal club captain because he seems to pull them >>>>> together and motivate them - the period where he acted as the >>>>> watercarrier gave some insights into his leadership abilities. >>>>> I'm not convinced about him as the on-field captain though >>>>> because I don't think he's valuable enough as a player to be an >>>>> 80 minute option.
>>>> Have a look at how they are going without him.
>>> Do you include previous seasons in that?
>> No, I'll stick to the current situation thanks
> In that case, I'll stck to the Manly game then :-)
> >>>> You're just being provocative, Jack - isn't that troll-like?.
> >>> Yep.
> >>> I don't have a problem with someone trolling, though.
> >>> The post to which you are referring was intended to establish > >>> whether or not you were, in fact, serious with your opinions, which > >>> sometimes seem so inexplicable as to appear to be trolling > >>> exercises.
> >>> "HTH". ;o)
> >> When it comes to morality, I never joke. > >> When it comes to football, I may do so but not on the important > >> issues.
> > I'm past caring about alternative opinions on the Broncos' points > > thieving issue right now - and I'm well aware of your opinion (hey, > > you copied it off a journalist, after all).
> That journalist knows his football
That journalist is a noted agenda setter, and I would struggle to remember a pro-Broncos article which he has written.
I wonder what your opinion would be had it been the Warriors who'd been dudded. And a dudding it was, make no mistake. Really.
> > The important issue to me is that the Broncos replaced a > > (medicab-borne) player injured by an act of blatant foul play after > > the referee restarted play (and, according to their video evidence, > > after he was allowed to go on the third time he tried to join a > > twelve man side).
> Did Hayne restart play on his own accord or on the instigation of > Darren Lockyer?
Immaterial. He shouldn't have done so, and is an incompetent buffoon.
> > As I recall, the crux of your argument involved an 'advantage' to the > > Broncos - an advantage they lost through the stoppage of play after > Bryce Gibbs' (sp?) high shot.
> They actually regained the advantage through a penalty. > Then they compounded the advantage by Parker coming on (and in fact > scoring a try after creating an extra man) without official sanction.
> > You're wrong, Kav, and many footie fans who admit to a hatred of my > > team will agree. Just like you're wrong about your opinion on > > 'induced' rapes, and just like you're wrong on your opinion on > > players who knee opposing team members in the head (credit GV for > > reminder), and your blind denial of the offences of Catholic > > 'priests' - etc., etc., ad nauseum.
> It's all a matter of opinion, Jack > There are at least two sides to every question; it's just at this point in > time > that you are on the opposite side to me on the big issues of the day. > Keep an open mind mate and you might agree with me one day.
> Kav
It seems a lot of people are on the opposite side to you on some of the big issues of the day. Wonder why that is? The words 'sense' and 'common' come to mind, in no particular order.
I respect your right to hold your ridiculously-18th-century views, but will continue to disagree with them. I do, however, admit to some admiration for the courage with which you propagate them.
> > I'm no left-winger, but you really take the cake. Is your head made > > of wood?
>>>>>> You're just being provocative, Jack - isn't that troll-like?.
>>>>> Yep.
>>>>> I don't have a problem with someone trolling, though.
>>>>> The post to which you are referring was intended to establish >>>>> whether or not you were, in fact, serious with your opinions, >>>>> which sometimes seem so inexplicable as to appear to be trolling >>>>> exercises.
>>>>> "HTH". ;o)
>>>> When it comes to morality, I never joke. >>>> When it comes to football, I may do so but not on the important >>>> issues.
>>> I'm past caring about alternative opinions on the Broncos' points >>> thieving issue right now - and I'm well aware of your opinion (hey, >>> you copied it off a journalist, after all).
>> That journalist knows his football
> That journalist is a noted agenda setter, and I would struggle to > remember a pro-Broncos article which he has written.
> I wonder what your opinion would be had it been the Warriors who'd > been dudded. And a dudding it was, make no mistake. Really.
It's done you guys a favour - the Broncos have been unbeaten since. The Warriors were dudded in 95 but we've stopped talking about it.
>>> The important issue to me is that the Broncos replaced a >>> (medicab-borne) player injured by an act of blatant foul play after >>> the referee restarted play (and, according to their video evidence, >>> after he was allowed to go on the third time he tried to join a >>> twelve man side).
>> Did Hayne restart play on his own accord or on the instigation of >> Darren Lockyer?
> Immaterial. He shouldn't have done so, and is an incompetent buffoon.
Well if Darren indicated he wanted to take the penalty straight away, why would Shayne Hayne stand in his way?
>>> As I recall, the crux of your argument involved an 'advantage' to >>> the Broncos - an advantage they lost through the stoppage of play >>> after >> Bryce Gibbs' (sp?) high shot.
>> They actually regained the advantage through a penalty. >> Then they compounded the advantage by Parker coming on (and in fact >> scoring a try after creating an extra man) without official sanction.
>>> You're wrong, Kav, and many footie fans who admit to a hatred of my >>> team will agree. Just like you're wrong about your opinion on >>> 'induced' rapes, and just like you're wrong on your opinion on >>> players who knee opposing team members in the head (credit GV for >>> reminder), and your blind denial of the offences of Catholic >>> 'priests' - etc., etc., ad nauseum.
>> It's all a matter of opinion, Jack >> There are at least two sides to every question; it's just at this >> point in time >> that you are on the opposite side to me on the big issues of the day. >> Keep an open mind mate and you might agree with me one day.
>> Kav
> It seems a lot of people are on the opposite side to you on some of > the big issues of the day. Wonder why that is? The words 'sense' > and 'common' come to mind, in no particular order.
Perhaps common sense has been warped somewhat by the general lowering of moral standards, less respect for authority and less belief in God.
> I respect your right to hold your ridiculously-18th-century views, > but will continue to disagree with them. I do, however, admit to > some admiration for the courage with which you propagate them.
>>> I'm no left-winger, but you really take the cake. Is your head made >>> of wood?
