Is it time to give Channel Nine the flick?
Thomas 'bacco007' Baxter
technical.
I think its time that a new broadcaster is looked at (or is Nine too tied up with the ACB for that
to happen?)
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Heinz Steiner
have a lifetime contact with Kerry Packer so its not going to get any
better. Most people I know just listen to the ABC commentary.
Heinz Steiner
Razor
> have a lifetime contact with Kerry Packer so its not going to get any
> better. Most people I know just listen to the ABC commentary.
>
> Heinz Steiner
The best is C7's for the Pura Milk cup
MonoJoker
<thomas...@nospam-auspaytv.information.cjb.net> wrote in message
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> Poor Commentry through out this season - and some very poor effort on the
behalf of channel nine
> technical.
>
> I think its time that a new broadcaster is looked at (or is Nine too tied
up with the ACB for that
> to happen?)
Why? I'm more interested in the pictures which Nein does a good job of
anyway. If you don't like the commentary listen to something else - eg ABC
radio.
Cheers
LT.
scott
Terry Kennedy
Keith Stackpole
Dean Jones
Geoff Lawson
Jeff Thompson
hardly the best there razor
Julian Buczek
>
> Poor Commentry through out this season - and some very poor effort
> on the behalf of channel nine technical.
>
> I think its time that a new broadcaster is looked at (or is Nine
> too tied up with the ACB for that to happen?)
Here's a solution:
Watch Nine's "Wide World of Sports" with the mute button on
whilst listening to ABC's "Grandstand".
MikeCrotch
> technical.
>
> I think its time that a new broadcaster is looked at (or is Nine too tied up with the ACB for that
> to happen?)
>
You can bet that the 7 network will bid for the cricket rights when
nine's contract is up for renewal but nine's coverage has been very
good this season. I think some of the commentators should be removed
such as tony greig and ian chappell. They are well passed their used
by date. Perhaps they can send them to India for commentary seeing as
9 produces the indian cricket coverage over there. It's time for 2 new
commentators to come in. Mark Taylor is terrific. Ian Healy can
sometimes annoying but he will develop into a good commentator.
Thomas 'bacco007' Baxter
Thats handy when you watch it on Digital TV - know the shot before you see it
Rick Eyre
The Nine Network has the rights to telecast international cricket
played in Australia until 2006 (with the exception of the winter
Colonial Stadium series if and when it happens.. the rights to those
are negotiated on a case by case basis). Tony Greig and Ian Chappell
in fact do a lot of commentary work in India and elsewhere already.
I must admit, though, that I rarely have the sound turned up when
watching the cricket on 9 (and no I don't listen to the ABC at the
same time). The graphics and other gadgetry that they use are often
good for either a laugh or a cry of "Get that off the bloody
screen!"... especially that blue stripe they use for lbw cases, which
is often either out of alignment or wobbling throughout the replay.
Colin Kynoch
Thomas 'bacco007' Baxter wrote:
>
> On Sun, 03 Feb 2002 22:41:04 +0800, Julian Buczek <buc...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
> >Thomas 'bacco007' Baxter wrote:
> >>
> >> Poor Commentry through out this season - and some very poor effort
> >> on the behalf of channel nine technical.
> >>
> >> I think its time that a new broadcaster is looked at (or is Nine
> >> too tied up with the ACB for that to happen?)
> >
> >Here's a solution:
> >
> >Watch Nine's "Wide World of Sports" with the mute button on
> >whilst listening to ABC's "Grandstand".
>
> Thats handy when you watch it on Digital TV - know the shot before you see it
Ohhhh tiddums
Colin Kynoch
James Robertson
didn't see it myself, but I've heard about it. Unlike Channel 9, all the
streakers and stuff were shown, and the camera angles were fairly dodgy
too... apparently.
Cackling Pipes
"scott" <sco...@mbox.com.au> wrote in message
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You have to realise this is a guy who wanks over hes Optus STB every 5 mins
when hes ot posting how good C7 and Optus is in this and the pay TV
newsgroup, while everybody is laughing at how pathetic he is.
Razor
>
I didn't say they were the best. I said they were better than Channel 9
Razor
mins
> when hes ot posting how good C7 and Optus is in this and the pay TV
> newsgroup, while everybody is laughing at how pathetic he is.
>
I don't worship Optus like you worship Foxtel.
I never praised Optus anyway. I praised C7, which is a totally independant
company to Optus and is on 4 other Pay TV providers in Australia.
Apart from the fact I always say C7 sucks, ESPN is the great station.
I always rated the networks likewise
1. NRL On Optus
2. ESPN
3. Fox Sports
4. C7
Now how is that saying how great C7 is? It's good to see you are still
delusional.
Cackling Pipes
> Now how is that saying how great C7 is? It's good to see you are still
> delusional.
I am not saying the SUperbowl is on ESPN...your the dilusional one
Razor
> I am not saying the SUperbowl is on ESPN...your the dilusional one
>
not, my neihbour cannot get it and has never got Fox Sports in stereo. Mono
only. He watches lots of fta stuff in stereo so don't say it is his TV
jeff...
<agwebb_NOSPAM@NOSPAM_optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
>The best is C7's for the Pura Milk cup
>
ah, good old C7. Access31 (public TV) here in Perth had worked out a
deal to show the interstate stuff here, but C7 have kicked up a fuss
and won't let them do it.
even though C7 don't broadcast to WA.
arseholes.
jeff...
"...and I would have got away with it if it wasn't
for those meddling hobbits!"
- Sauron, F.A.1
Rats
Taylor is brilliant! He is about as fair as commentators can get.
Drew
>
>Poor Commentry through out this season - and some very poor effort on the behalf
>of channel nine
>technical.
>
>
What is wrong with the technical side of things?
Razor
> even though C7 don't broadcast to WA.
>
> arseholes.
>
They want to though. Foxtel won't let them.
jeff...
Foxtel's fault. arseholes.
whoever it is, i just wanna watch the bloody cricket!
MikeCrotch
> Remember when Channel 7 did the cricket for a while back in the 80s. I
> didn't see it myself, but I've heard about it. Unlike Channel 9, all the
> streakers and stuff were shown, and the camera angles were fairly dodgy
> too... apparently.
In the 80's? I think you mean in the early 70's. They used to share
coverage with the ABC I think.
Rick Eyre
The last season I can recall Channel 7 covering international cricket
in Australia was the 1975-76 series against the West Indies. Richie
was the head of their commentary team in those days, Bill Lawry was
there - less emotional than in his later channel 9 persona - and I can
recall Doug Ring, Victorian Test leg-spinner from just before Richie's
time, being there as well.
Channel 10 was the commercial network carrier of the cricket alongside
the ABC in 1976-77, and then Nine started their own tournament in
77-78...
Cheers
Rick
www.rickeyre.com/cricket
Spooky Guy Next Door
(NOSPAM_agwebb@NOSPAM_optusnet.com.au) wrote:
> > hardly the best there razor
>
> I didn't say they were the best. I said they were better than Channel 9
Message-ID: <3c5d2e3d$0$21127$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>:
> So whats new? Been like that for years and Tony Grieg would appear
to
> have a lifetime contact with Kerry Packer so its not going to get
any
> better. Most people I know just listen to the ABC commentary.
>
> Heinz Steiner
The best is C7's for the Pura Milk cup
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> dea...@optushome.com.au (MikeCrotch) wrote in message news:<a062af80.02020...@posting.google.com>...
> > James Robertson <em...@domain.com> wrote in message news:<3C5DB2B2...@domain.com>...
> > > Remember when Channel 7 did the cricket for a while back in the 80s. I
> > > didn't see it myself, but I've heard about it. Unlike Channel 9, all the
> > > streakers and stuff were shown, and the camera angles were fairly dodgy
> > > too... apparently.
> >
> > In the 80's? I think you mean in the early 70's. They used to share
> > coverage with the ABC I think.
>
> The last season I can recall Channel 7 covering international cricket
> in Australia was the 1975-76 series against the West Indies. Richie
> was the head of their commentary team in those days, Bill Lawry was
> there - less emotional than in his later channel 9 persona - and I can
> recall Doug Ring, Victorian Test leg-spinner from just before Richie's
> time, being there as well.
Was it 10 or 7 who covered the Gillete Cup in that season? Do you
know? I think it might have been 10.
Razor
9's they are the best Aussie line up. There are lots of overseas
commentators when C7/Fox Sports takes the overseas feeds that are better
Dean Bedford
> technical.
People react very personally to the commentators and have their
preferences and dsilikes. I listen reasonably closely and trying to be
objective I think there is a good mix on Nine.
What do I want in cricket commentary?
1. Someone with some broadcasting ability... by this I essentially
mean the ability to think on his feet and not rely on pat phrases or
making meaningless comments that just fill in time.
2. Someone not afraid to speak their mind.
3. Someone who makes an interesting point that I hadn't thought of
before and gets me thinking.
4. Someone who can entertain. I don't want a stand-up comic but it is
after all just a game and the occasional one-liner that is genuinely
witty or a bit of bamnter can loven things up... as long as the
commentator knows when to let it go.
By these counts I reckon the Nine team compare well. Richie Benaud is
still the best and I will stop what I am doing to listen to him. Ian
Chappell and Mark Taylor seem to be modelling themselves on Benaud and
I rate them almost as good. Chappell especially often makes points I
hadn't thought of before and is almost always worth listening to.
Bill Lawry and Tony Greig are less my cup of tea personally. But both
are excellent broadcasters. Greig in particular is an entertainer, and
you need someone to provide a mix.
Ian Healy I am less sure of. He seems to me to be less likely to make
an interesting point and he doesn't yet seem a natural broadcaster to
me.
Ian Smith has been very good over the summer, making incisive remarks
and has a bubbly humour.
When I compare this as a team to NZ's current TV mob it's a hands-down
win to Nine. Gavin Larsen and Martin Crowe always rely on pat phrases,
will never say anything critical about the home side and never have an
interesting comment to make. Any humour extends far too long. (notice
how Richie's one liners are always just one line?) Ditto Willie Watson
and Danny Morrison. Larsen in particular is just not a broadcaster. He
is like someone doing an imitation of a TV commentary without a game
to watch. Having heard the English teams on Sky and C4 I wouldn't say
they were better than Nine either. There are some good individuals of
course. Geoffrey Boycott, love him or hate him, has guts, thinks hard
about the game and has that broadcasting ability. Sunil Gavaskar I
enjoy. There are others.
At the end of a summer it's natural to get a bit tired of these
voices... but I'd swap the Nine team for our NZ Sky team any day.
Rick Eyre
I can recall channel 10 showing the Gillette Cup in 1976/77 because
that is where I saw that unforgettable game where Western Australia 77
all out defeated Queensland 62 all out. They showed the Gillette Cup
right up till 1978/79.
I am inclined to think the ABC had the 75/76 Gillette Cup all to
itself, but I could be wrong...
Cheers
Rick
www.rickeyre.com/cricket
Colin Kynoch
biclops wrote:
> It must be his TV because I watched the Superbowl on Fox Sports and it
> was definitely in stereo.
>
> Actually, I'm wrong, it's not his TV, it's just you bullshitting.
After making a very simple telephone call to Fox, they confirmed that
Fox Sports is in stereo on both cable and satellite
Colin Kynoch
Cackling Pipes
"Colin Kynoch" <kyn...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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I get stereo loud and clear as well, but this is Razor, making more
instantiated claims again.
Mad Hamish
<NOSPAM_agwebb@NOSPAM_optusnet.com.au> wrote:
that makes absolutely no sense for anybody to do on commercial or
technical grounds.
It makes so little sense that I can only assume that he is lying to
you to amuse himself or you're lying here to try and score points.
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Cackling Pipes
"Mad Hamish" <h_l...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 4 Feb 2002 11:30:52 +1000, "Razor"
> <NOSPAM_agwebb@NOSPAM_optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> >
> >> I am not saying the SUperbowl is on ESPN...your the dilusional one
> >>
> >I'm watching it on ESPN. It's in stereo, SBS is not. Fox Sports cable is
> >not, my neihbour cannot get it and has never got Fox Sports in stereo.
Mono
> >only. He watches lots of fta stuff in stereo so don't say it is his TV
> >
> that makes absolutely no sense for anybody to do on commercial or
> technical grounds.
>
> It makes so little sense that I can only assume that he is lying to
> you to amuse himself or you're lying here to try and score points.
Meet "Razor" aka Anthony Webb aka a host of other nick names, you should
read his banta in aus.tv.pay, if you need anymore convincing