How evolution could be wrong

[Barry OGrady]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK3O6KYPmEw&list=PLB1585307264CC172

[gladys swager]

On Tuesday, April 30, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK3O6KYPmEw&list=PLB1585307264CC172

You are being deceitful, Barry, or is it just another of your tricks?

creation.com/evidence-for-a-young-world

[Barry OGrady]

On Tue, 30 Apr 2013 16:34:46 -0700 (PDT), gladys swager
<gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Tuesday, April 30, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK3O6KYPmEw&list=PLB1585307264CC172
>
>You are being deceitful, Barry, or is it just another of your tricks?

Watch and decide for yourself.

[gladys swager]

On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 Barry OGrady wrote:

> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, gladys swager wrote:
> >On Tuesday, April 30, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
>
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK3O6KYPmEw&list=PLB1585307264CC172
>
> >You are being deceitful, Barry, or is it just another of your tricks?
>
> Watch and decide for yourself.

My low hearing levels made it difficult to hear the audio accompaniment .

Barry, you and your mates might be able to trick 'city dwellers'
who have had little or no experience of country life,
but I have known farm life from the late 1928's until more recent times,
and never did any species of animal or bird, or wild-life, animal or plant,
show even the slightest change towards another kind.

And thinking further I doubt that in all recorded history
has there be an incidence of evolution happening and proved to have occurred. .

It was not even hinted at in my High School Science (1941 - 1945) lessons.
- not was it given in my Teachers College Biology (1946) Nature Study (1947) classes.

So why was evolution included from 1963, in NSW schools,
and with no supporting evidence...
I have the text that was published for that program.

Tell a child a = b, and the chances are (s)he will accept and not ask for proof...but the times they are a-changing.

And I would that the time will come when both ideas are presented to High school students - even lower grades - to enable them to begin their own investigations.
Fair's fair ....so let there be an adequate investigation
instead of an indoctrination of the one understanding.

You still haven't told me:-
How nobody made something out of nothing at the beginning of time....

God could, but despite all the evidence of nature,
(perhaps you have not traveled far even in Australia
...only known your own back-yard and little else....!!!)
you follow as a sheep behind your evolutionary masters/mistresses.

Yes, I accept changes within a species, my father worked on that to produce a better type of poultry -
but the roosters and the hens remained as roosters and hens.
...and the plums and the peaches ans the lemons and cabbages....
and others still remained their own type.

Evolution is a theory in crisis...but its devotees are slow to come to grips with that.

[Barry OGrady]

On Wed, 1 May 2013 18:46:46 -0700 (PDT), gladys swager
<gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 Barry OGrady wrote:
>> On Tue, 30 Apr 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>> >On Tuesday, April 30, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
>>
>> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dK3O6KYPmEw&list=PLB1585307264CC172
>>
>> >You are being deceitful, Barry, or is it just another of your tricks?
>>
>> Watch and decide for yourself.
>
>My low hearing levels made it difficult to hear the audio accompaniment .

You should have told me that before. I thought you were just
making excuses.

>Barry, you and your mates might be able to trick 'city dwellers'
>who have had little or no experience of country life,
>but I have known farm life from the late 1928's until more recent times,
>and never did any species of animal or bird, or wild-life, animal or plant,
>show even the slightest change towards another kind.

You said
>there is change within a species to another species as the individuals age.

I have not heard that claim before.

>And thinking further I doubt that in all recorded history
>has there be an incidence of evolution happening and proved to have occurred. .

Your hearing is no excuse for you to read the pages I provide.
such as http://www.teachthemscience.org/evidence .

>It was not even hinted at in my High School Science (1941 - 1945) lessons.
>- not was it given in my Teachers College Biology (1946) Nature Study (1947) classes.
>
>So why was evolution included from 1963, in NSW schools,
>and with no supporting evidence...

I don't know why they did that Gladys. Perhaps it was the standard
at the time. Did they provide supporting evidence for gravity and
other science topics back then?
The important thing is that we now have vast amounts of evidence
for evolution and no serious alternatives have been offered.

>I have the text that was published for that program.

I'd like to see that. Can you post it here or email it to me?

>Tell a child a = b, and the chances are (s)he will accept and not ask
>for proof...but the times they are a-changing.

It says as much in the bible and creationists know that is
the only way people can be tricked into accepting creation.

>And I would that the time will come when both ideas are presented to
>High school students - even lower grades - to enable them to begin
>their own investigations.
>Fair's fair ....so let there be an adequate investigation
>instead of an indoctrination of the one understanding.

Let evolution be taught in science classes and creation can
be included in mythology classes.

>You still haven't told me:-
>How nobody made something out of nothing at the beginning of time....

That's true.

>God could, but despite all the evidence of nature,
>(perhaps you have not traveled far even in Australia
>...only known your own back-yard and little else....!!!)
>you follow as a sheep behind your evolutionary masters/mistresses.

That's very good Gladys.

>Yes, I accept changes within a species, my father worked on that to
>produce a better type of poultry -

Better than what God provided?

>but the roosters and the hens remained as roosters and hens.
>...and the plums and the peaches ans the lemons and cabbages....
>and others still remained their own type.

You said
>there is change within a species to another species as the individuals age.

>Evolution is a theory in crisis...but its devotees are slow to come to grips with that.

That's an odd thing to say for a theory that has the vast fossil
record, DNA, accurate dating using several methods, and
observation.
Your mates at Creation Ministries Irrational are very concerned
about the Clergy Letter Project.

[gladys swager]

On Thursday, May 2, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
> On Wed, 1 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>
Barry, Like reproduces like; there has not been one historical evidence
that evolution from one species to another species has happened.

You will not listen to reason....Reading reason...you may...but then your brain meter has been so charged that you reject anything that is contrary to past learnings.

Changes within a species..."yes".
Change from one species to another species..."no".

creation.com/dodging-living-fossils

[Barry OGrady]

On Thu, 2 May 2013 09:29:07 -0700 (PDT), gladys swager
<gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Thursday, May 2, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>>
>Barry, Like reproduces like; there has not been one historical evidence
>that evolution from one species to another species has happened.

And you know that because you have studied every piece of
evidence for evolution?

>You will not listen to reason....Reading reason...you may...but then
>your brain meter has been so charged that you reject anything that is
>contrary to past learnings.

Past learnings are not always correct.

>Changes within a species..."yes".
>Change from one species to another species..."no".

Whatever happened was certainly not as described in Genesis.

>creation.com/dodging-living-fossils

Creation Ministries Irrational will not give you truth.

========================
Glady says

[gladys swager]

On Friday, May 3, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:

> On Thu, 2 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
> >On Thursday, May 2, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
> >> On Wed, 1 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>
> >Barry, Like reproduces like; there has not been one historical evidence
> >that evolution from one species to another species has happened.
>
> And you know that because you have studied every piece of
> evidence for evolution?
>

By golly, if that one piece of evidence was available it would be front-page news throughout the world. As I am typing i am wondering if such apiece of evidence could be artificially produced.

>
> >You will not listen to reason....

> >your brain meter has been so charged that you reject anything that is
> >contrary to past learnings.
>
> Past learnings are not always correct.
>
> >Changes within a species..."yes".
> >Change from one species to another species..."no".
>
> Whatever happened was certainly not as described in Genesis.
>

And you know that?.....or are you just making it up as you go along?
>
> >creation.com/dodging-living-fossils
>
> Creation Ministries XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX will not give you truth.

As you can't be decent enough to give them the proper title,
I certainly cannot trust you to be truthful
in respect of their knowledge of truth.
You are out to make statements that just suit yourself.
>

[Barry OGrady]

On Thu, 2 May 2013 23:49:51 -0700 (PDT), gladys swager
<gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, May 3, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>> >On Thursday, May 2, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 1 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>>
>> >Barry, Like reproduces like; there has not been one historical evidence
>> >that evolution from one species to another species has happened.
>>
>> And you know that because you have studied every piece of
>> evidence for evolution?
>>
>By golly, if that one piece of evidence was available it would be

>front-page news throughout the world. As I am typing I am wondering if
>such a piece of evidence could be artificially produced.

It would be difficult as the fossil record is vast but not necessary.

We would expect creationists to fabricate evidence as they have
nothing real.

>> >You will not listen to reason....
>> >your brain meter has been so charged that you reject anything that is
>> >contrary to past learnings.
>>
>> Past learnings are not always correct.
>>
>> >Changes within a species..."yes".
>> >Change from one species to another species..."no".
>>
>> Whatever happened was certainly not as described in Genesis.
>>
>And you know that?..

I know that.

>...or are you just making it up as you go along?

Would you like me to tell you how I know?

>> Creation Ministries XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX will not give you truth.
>
>As you can't be decent enough to give them the proper title,

I gave them the correct title. XXX means pornography
so you are saying Creation Ministries Irrational is a porn site.

>I certainly cannot trust you to be truthful
>in respect of their knowledge of truth.

You are used to being around Christians who can't tell
the truth.

>You are out to make statements that just suit yourself.

That does seem logical.

[gladys swager]

On Friday, May 3, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
> On Thu, 2 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
> >On Friday, May 3, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
> >> On Thu, 2 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>
> >> >Barry, Like reproduces like; there has not been one historical evidence
> >> >that evolution from one species to another species has happened.
>
> >> And you know that because you have studied every piece of
> >> evidence for evolution?
>

If there are evidences for evolution, ie change within a species to another species, you have had plenty of time in which to produce them on this newsgroup. > >>

> >By golly, if that one piece of evidence was available it would be
> >front-page news throughout the world. As I am typing I am wondering if
> >such a piece of evidence could be artificially produced.
>

Your atheism is incorrect, and perhaps one day you will come to understand.

[Barry OGrady]

On Fri, 3 May 2013 12:55:19 -0700 (PDT), gladys swager
<gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, May 3, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> On Thu, 2 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>> >On Friday, May 3, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 2 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>>
>> >> >Barry, Like reproduces like; there has not been one historical evidence
>> >> >that evolution from one species to another species has happened.

There is no evidence for God or creation.

>> >> And you know that because you have studied every piece of
>> >> evidence for evolution?
>>
>If there are evidences for evolution, ie change within a species to
>another species, you have had plenty of time in which to produce them
>on this newsgroup.

If I did would you read and or watch the information I give?

>> >By golly, if that one piece of evidence was available it would be
>> >front-page news throughout the world.

Its rather like space exploration in that when it first happened
it was big news but now people just accept it.

>> >As I am typing I am wondering if
>> >such a piece of evidence could be artificially produced.

I suppose it could but it would be pointless.
I'm surprised creationists don't do that more often since
they don't have any real evidence.

>Your atheism is incorrect, and perhaps one day you will come to understand.

Gladys, help me with my unbelief!

Atheism is acknowledgment of no [G|g]od(s) and that is obviously
correct, so you must be saying my ideas a an atheist are incorrect.
In what way do you see my ideas as being incorrect?

What did you mean when you wrote

>there is change within a species to another species as the individuals age.

That sounds like evolution yet evolution does not work that way.
Did you see any individuals change from one species to another
within their lifetime?

Here is some information you say I never provided.

Information from a Christian about evolution.
http://www.teachthemscience.org/evidence

Does a Good God Exist? A Debate Between Hitchens and Dembski
(November 2010)
and its found at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctuloBOYolE
Its just what you asked for so please don't ignore it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eo5MdHMNcw
Watch the first 50 seconds.
Then watch the last 4 hours and 28 minutes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUe0_4rdj0U

Conspiracy Road Trip: Creationism
http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/view/32620

The creationists get to have their say. See if you agree with them.
Another good video for creationists is at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODetOE6cbbc

The ending is very good.

Then watch all the David Attenborough documentaries and
other science programs.

[Barry OGrady]

========================
Glady says

[gladys swager]

On Saturday, May 4, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:

> On Wed, 1 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>
> >And I would that the time will come when both ideas are presented to
> >High school students - even lower grades - to enable them to begin
> >their own investigations.
> >Fair's fair ....so let there be an adequate investigation
> >instead of an indoctrination of the one understanding.
>
> Let evolution be taught in science classes and creation can
> be included in mythology classes.
>

Creation is not mythology - it is a scientific investigation of the issues pertinent to an understanding of science from a Biblical perspective,
by fully Tertiary level-qualified scientists who were required to know the evolutionists' explanations as part of their studies.

> >You still haven't told me:-
> >How nobody made something out of nothing at the beginning of time....
>
> That's true.
>
> >God could, but despite all the evidence of nature,
> >(perhaps you have not traveled far even in Australia
> >...only known your own back-yard and little else....!!!)
> >you follow as a sheep behind your evolutionary masters/mistresses.
>
> That's very good Gladys.
>

> >I accept changes within a species, my father worked on that to
> >produce a better type of poultry -
>
> Better than what God provided?
>

Poultry that were required to give a higher yield in egg production to match the higher populations. (Or haven't you realized that populations do tend to
increase over time? - and have done since the original creation by God...
as in Genesis of the Bible).

>
> >but the roosters and the hens remained as roosters and hens.

> >...and the plums and the peaches and the lemons and cabbages....

> >and others still remained their own type.
>
> > You said
> >there is change within a species to another species as the individuals age.
>

Never did say that. How can one species with its own unique DNA produce offspring that are different from it. I have never seen it happen despite the the numbers and variety of animal life on our farm.

> >Evolution is a theory in crisis...but its devotees are slow to come to grips with that.
>
> That's an odd thing to say for a theory that has the vast fossil
> record, DNA, accurate dating using several methods, and observation.

Observation .....there has not been any observation of one species changing into another species. if you think there has been, bring forth your examples....
>
> Your mates at Creation Ministries...are very concerned

about the Clergy Letter Project.
>

> Gladys says

> >there is change within a species to another species as the individuals age.

Gladys has never said that, or posted it in these newsgroups.
Barry, you are either a l---, or you need extra lessons in literacy.

creation.com/clergy-letter-project-a-circus

creation.com/science-and-creation-and-evolutionism-refutation-of-nas

[Barry OGrady]

On Fri, 3 May 2013 17:16:41 -0700 (PDT), gladys swager
<gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Saturday, May 4, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>>
>> >And I would that the time will come when both ideas are presented to
>> >High school students - even lower grades - to enable them to begin
>> >their own investigations.
>> >Fair's fair ....so let there be an adequate investigation
>> >instead of an indoctrination of the one understanding.
>>
>> Let evolution be taught in science classes and creation can
>> be included in mythology classes.
>>
>Creation is not mythology -

It is in the sense that it never happened.

>it is a scientific investigation of the issues pertinent to an
>understanding of science from a Biblical perspective,
>by fully Tertiary level-qualified scientists who were required to know
>the evolutionists' explanations as part of their studies.

Surely if they had come up with any evidence it would be
on the front page of newspapers.

>> >I accept changes within a species, my father worked on that to
>> >produce a better type of poultry -
>>
>> Better than what God provided?
>>
>Poultry that were required to give a higher yield in egg production to

>match the higher populations. (Or haven't you realised that

>populations do tend to increase over time? - and have done since the
>original creation by God...

That might explain why God took back his offer of eternal life here
on earth.
Do you know the purpose of eggs? Do you know you used to
produce eggs? Do you know what cow's milk is for?

>as in Genesis of the Bible).

Not as shown by the fossil record?

>> >but the roosters and the hens remained as roosters and hens.
>> >...and the plums and the peaches and the lemons and cabbages....
>> >and others still remained their own type.
>>
>> > You said
>> >there is change within a species to another species as the individuals age.
>>
>Never did say that.

Its a direct quote from you.

>How can one species with its own unique DNA produce offspring that are
>different from it. I have never seen it happen despite the the numbers
>and variety of animal life on our farm.

Did you ever see God speak life into existence?

>> >Evolution is a theory in crisis...but its devotees are slow to come to grips with that.
>>
>> That's an odd thing to say for a theory that has the vast fossil
>> record, DNA, accurate dating using several methods, and observation.
>
>Observation .....there has not been any observation of one species
>changing into another species. if you think there has been, bring
>forth your examples....

Gladys, I give you, da de da de da, the fossil record!!!!!!!!!!

>> Gladys says
>> >there is change within a species to another species as the individuals age.
>
>Gladys has never said that, or posted it in these newsgroups.
>Barry, you are either a l---, or you need extra lessons in literacy.

I am not a l--- and it is a direct quote from you.

>there is change within a species to another species as the individuals age.

I have not heard of such a thing.

>> Your mates at Creation Ministries...are very concerned
>> about the Clergy Letter Project.
>

>creation.com/clergy-letter-project-a-circus

For some reason that link worked. Must be a miracle!

They are very worried!

Many readers may have heard of the grandiose ‘Clergy Letter Project’.
Simply put, it involves self-avowed atheist and evolutionist, Michael
Zimmerman, inviting churches to endorse evolution—thereby denying
biblical creation.

Incredibly, in their haste to enrol on the ‘dark side’, clergy from
liberal churches across the USA have been scrambling at this chance to
pledge allegiance to the flag of Darwinian evolution. The resulting
‘roll of dishonour’ no doubt delineates with some accuracy the spread
of apostasy across the contemporary Christian landscape. And now, no
doubt seeking new worlds to conquer, Zimmerman is casting a wider net.

>creation.com/science-and-creation-and-evolutionism-refutation-of-nas

404 page not found

The page you were looking for
http://creation.com/science-and-creation-and-evolutionism-refutation-of-nas
could not be found.

I can understand you not being willing to investigate evolution
since doing so would confirm what you already know, that
evolution is fact, however I can't understand why you refuse
to learn copy and paste.

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Glady says

[gladys swager]

On, May 4, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:

> On Fri, 3 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
> >On Saturday, May 4, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
> >> On Wed, 1 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>

Barry, evolution is all talk. You have never shown me a progression of living organisms each one slightly different to each other and each one proved to have evolved (come) from the organism immediately before it.
In respect of living organisms it just does not happen that way.

The fact that so many people believe evolution happened is
**that they have never had any experience on farms,
**they were taught it happened in their science classes,
** they have believed the secularisers who are promoting the idea.

"Goo-to-you-via-the-zoo" is just pure fantasy.

It has been used by those promoting secularism/atheism ...ie there is no God,
It was promoted to school children from 1963....not allowing the Creationists equal time to present their ideas of God Who created.

And in that sense they betrayed the students to whom they presented their ideas, by not allowing equal time to those who promoted God's creation.

[Barry OGrady]

On Fri, 3 May 2013 21:46:39 -0700 (PDT), gladys swager
<gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On, May 4, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>> >On Saturday, May 4, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 1 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>>
>Barry, evolution is all talk. You have never shown me a progression of
>living organisms each one slightly different to each other and each
>one proved to have evolved (come) from the organism immediately before it.
>In respect of living organisms it just does not happen that way.

You have no way of knowing that.

>The fact that so many people believe evolution happened is
>**that they have never had any experience on farms,

Or they have had experience on farms.

>**they were taught it happened in their science classes,

Or they were not taught it happened in their science classes.

>** they have believed the secularisers who are promoting the idea.

Or they not have believed the secularisers who are promoting the idea.

Perhaps
**they believe Christians like those at
http://www.teachthemscience.org/evidence

>"Goo-to-you-via-the-zoo" is just pure fantasy.

That's what the people at Creation Ministries Irrational call it
that so they can deceive simple minded idiots like you.
They are terrified by things like the Clergy Letter Project.
Christians are not all as stupid as you wish they were.

>It has been used by those promoting secularism/atheism ...ie there is
>no God,

And by those promoting God.

>It was promoted to school children from 1963....not allowing the
>Creationists equal time to present their ideas of God Who created.

Its lucky for all of us the courts saw through their attempts to
indoctrinate children with religion.

>And in that sense they betrayed the students to whom they presented
>their ideas, by not allowing equal time to those who promoted God's
>creation.

If you really want to live in a theocracy I suggest you move to Iran.

[gladys swager]

On Saturday, May 4, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
> On Fri, 3 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>On, May 4, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> On Fri, 3 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>> >On Saturday, May 4, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> >> On Wed, 1 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:

>> >Barry, evolution is all talk. You have never shown me a progression of
>> >living organisms each one slightly different to each other and each one
>> >proved to have evolved (come) from the organism immediately before it.

>In respect of living organisms it just does not happen that way.
>You have no way of knowing that.
>The fact that so many people believe evolution happened is >**that they have
>never had any experience on farms,

Christians are not all as stupid as you wish they were. >It has been used by those promoting secularism/atheism ...ie there is >no God, And by those promoting God.

>It was promoted to school children from 1963....not allowing the >Creationists equal time to present their ideas of God Who created.

Its lucky for all of us the courts saw through their attempts to indoctrinate children with religion.

>And in that sense they betrayed the students to whom they presented >their ideas, by not allowing equal time to those who promoted God's >creation. If you really want to live in a theocracy I suggest you move to Iran.

Gladys says there is change within a species to another species as the individuals age.

I have never stated the above. I can assure you that I am the same species
as I age into my mid-eighties as I was in my teen years.

The guru of Evolutionary theory:- creation.com/attenborough-60-years

Barry, Evolutionary (atheistic) theory implies -
that nobody made something out of nothing millions of years ago.
which is foolishness of the ultimate type.

God is working His purposes out, as year succeeds to year.
God is working His purposes out and the time is drawing near.
Nearer and nearer draws the time, the time that shall surely be
When the earth shall be filled with the glory of God
as the waters cover the seas.
from Hymns - Ancient and Modern

[Barry OGrady]

Can you honestly say you are not messing with the formatting
deliberatly so you can say I was unable to answer you?

You must learn to take responsibility for your own actions.
If you won't use a proper newsreader at least have a talk
to Google support.

I recommend Forte Agent. Its a lot easier to use than
Google and you wouldn't have any problems with it.
I am aware that you automatically reject anything I suggest,
such as copy and paste which would allow you to have
error free links.

How are you going with the David Attenborough programs
on youtube via the link I had made for you? You can't help
but be impressed with the standard of the programs. They
are both entertaining and educational.
Also do a search on youtube for Penn and Teller Bullshit
episodes especially the one about creation. They do an
excellent job of showing creation for the Bullshit it is.

You never did thank me for showing you how you can
watch the excellent and true programs by Sir David
Attenborough without needing a TV. The important
thing is you are enjoying them and discovering how
absurd creation is.
That is thanks enough although I would like to hear
your thoughts about the programs.

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[gladys swager]

> >On Wed, 1 May 2013, gladys swager wrote:

> >>Barry, evolution is all talk. You have never shown me a progression of
> >>living organisms each one slightly different to each other and each one

> >>proved to have evolved (come) from the organism immediately before it. QED