On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:52:36 -0800, Pete <d...@kn.app> wrote:
>On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:32:28 -0600, Joshua Gemmell wrote:
>> Know that there is no part of the scriptures that I don't understand,
>> and I like you to know that tribulation period starts in April 2016
>> and end April 2023. And my mission for the world begins 2019.
>Rev_16:13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth
>of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of
>the false prophet. >There is no Godly spirt coming in the midst of the troubled times.
> >Pro_26:4 (KJV) Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou
> >also be like unto him.
Joshua wrote:
> Michael there is a time for everything under the sun, a time to speak,
> and a time not to speak - Let Rod Speak, for his righteous indignation
> is much admired by the angels of God, and he shall be blessed by God.
> (Proverbs 26:5) Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise
> in his own conceit.
On Nov 14, 4:06 am, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Michael Christ wrote:
> > >Some advice, Rod...
> > >Pro_26:4 (KJV) Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou
> > >also be like unto him.
> Joshua wrote:
> > Michael there is a time for everything under the sun, a time to speak,
> > and a time not to speak - Let Rod Speak, for his righteous indignation
> > is much admired by the angels of God, and he shall be blessed by God.
> > (Proverbs 26:5) Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise
> > in his own conceit.
> Your timing is wrong. :-).
I think the message there in Prov. 26:4-5 is not to answer to a fool
at all.
Pro 26:1 As snow in summer, and as rain in harvest, so honour is not
seemly for a fool.
Pro 26:2 As the bird by wandering, as the swallow by flying, so the
curse causeless shall not come.
Pro 26:3 A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for
the fool's back.
Pro 26:4 Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be
like unto him.
Pro 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his
own conceit.
Pro 26:6 He that sendeth a message by the hand of a fool cutteth off
the feet, and drinketh damage.
Pro 26:7 The legs of the lame are not equal: so is a parable in the
mouth of fools.
Pro 26:8 As he that bindeth a stone in a sling, so is he that giveth
honour to a fool.
Pro 26:9 As a thorn goeth up into the hand of a drunkard, so is a
parable in the mouth of fools.
Pro 26:10 The great God that formed all things both rewardeth the
fool, and rewardeth transgressors.
Pro 26:11 As a dog returneth to his vomit, so a fool returneth to his
folly.
Pro 26:12 Seest thou a man wise in his own conceit? there is more
hope of a fool than of him.
Joshua wrote:
>>Many were called to enter at the gate of Eternal Life, but I know that
>>few will find their way back unto the Love of God, for the Love of God
>>is measured by works we render unto God, not by the words we offer
>>unto God daily to be seen as guiding lights before men.
Michael Christ wrote:
>But permit me to ask one little question on what you have said...
>Precisely, "...for the Love of God is measured by works we render unto
>God..."
>Do you mean, '...for the love for God is measured by works we render
>unto God...?"
Joshua wrote:
> I meant it "Love of God" which is the Tree of Life,
"for the Love of God is measured by works we render unto God,"
Okay, so how is the love of God measured by works we render unto God?
> and this tree
> actually exists, it is called the Tree of Life because whosoever eats
> of that tree can never die.
> This Tree of Life has twelve types of fruit and can render you
> immortal. But most important is that whosoever eats of that tree with
> radiated the Love of God. For the fruits are radiating with light
> which is the breath of God which gives life. One can only reach that
> Tree of Life by hold on to the Word of God.
> God is the Word, the Word is the Light, the Light is the Spirit, and
> the Spirit is the Power of God, take away any of these things and it
> not from God. Therefore if we speak the Truth, then it must be that
> the Light of God is in us. But let not your faith be in vain, if you
> do not have the Power of God, then it is because you do not have the
> Spirit of God, and if you do not have his Spirit, neither can you have
> his Light. And if we be wishful thinkers rather than doers, then it
> is because the Word of God is not is not being hold on to, and if that
> be the case then our hopes in Christ are in vain.
> In other words if we have Love of God in us, then it is because we
> have Word of God in us, and whosoever keeps all of God's saying shall
> never taste of death, for the Word of God is power by which God gave
> us Eternal Life.
> Eternal Life and Life Eternal are not the same thing. One speaks of
> the type of life God has and enjoys, the other speaks of the free gift
> that come by the Grace of God which endless life (the resurrection).
> <G><
> Do trouble yourself to understand it, for God has already written it
> in your heart, you just have to remember when he first taught you
> these lessons in the spirit world before you were born, it's all
> inside of you waiting to be quicken by the Spirit of God. <G><
>> >Pro_26:4 (KJV) Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou
>> >also be like unto him.
>Joshua wrote:
>> Michael there is a time for everything under the sun, a time to speak,
>> and a time not to speak - Let Rod Speak, for his righteous indignation
>> is much admired by the angels of God, and he shall be blessed by God.
>> (Proverbs 26:5) Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise
>> in his own conceit.
>Your timing is wrong. :-).
>Barry is a serial fool. :-).
You are in danger of hell fire.
Matthew 5:22
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without
a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to
his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever
shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
God is in danger of hell fire.
Luke 12:20
But God said unto him, [Thou] fool, this night thy soul shall be
required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast
provided?
<lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
>On Nov 14, 4:06 am, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>> Michael Christ wrote:
>> > >Some advice, Rod...
>> > >Pro_26:4 (KJV) Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou
>> > >also be like unto him.
>> Joshua wrote:
>> > Michael there is a time for everything under the sun, a time to speak,
>> > and a time not to speak - Let Rod Speak, for his righteous indignation
>> > is much admired by the angels of God, and he shall be blessed by God.
>> > (Proverbs 26:5) Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise
>> > in his own conceit.
>> Your timing is wrong. :-).
>I think the message there in Prov. 26:4-5 is not to answer to a fool
>at all.
The message is that God is a fool because he creates fools.
You are in danger of hell fire.
Matthew 5:22
But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without
a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to
his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever
shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
God is in danger of hell fire.
Luke 12:20
But God said unto him, [Thou] fool, this night thy soul shall be
required of thee: then whose shall those things be, which thou hast
provided?
yes Joh 4:23 But the the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
And now is. This was spoken by Jesus BC"
Note the use of capitols on the "spirit".
It would be an error to inject the doctrines of the past 100 years each time "spirit" is used. For example to worship in spirit is not referring to the Holy Spirit. So "true" worship has nothing to do with the doctrines introduced in the past 100 years.
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 01:18:57 -0800 (PST), Linda Lee
> <lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
> >On Nov 14, 4:06 am, Michael Christ <jesusisthelordof...@hotmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >> Michael Christ wrote:
> >> > >Some advice, Rod...
> >> > >Pro_26:4 (KJV) Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou
> >> > >also be like unto him.
> >> Joshua wrote:
> >> > Michael there is a time for everything under the sun, a time to speak,
> >> > and a time not to speak - Let Rod Speak, for his righteous indignation
> >> > is much admired by the angels of God, and he shall be blessed by God.
> >> > (Proverbs 26:5) Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise
> >> > in his own conceit.
> >I think the message there in Prov. 26:4-5 is not to answer to a fool
> >at all.
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:40:17 -0800 (PST), Linda Lee
<lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
>That's probably a good idea, and I'm impressed with your response.
>Looks like someone somehow has done their good deed for God.
>Many mentally ill people who become interested in the Scriptures think
>the writings are referring directly to them or think God has chosen
>them out of all the people in the world for a special purpose that no
>one else has ever been able to fulfill. We've had many chosen ones,
>one of the "two witnesses", and even returning Messiahs here.
>That does not mean that God does not reveal himself to believers or
>maybe even to unbelievers; it just means that those who are blessed
>enough to receive something like that are not all that unique in the
>overall scheme of things.
I understand everything, and I think you're a wise and knowledgeable
person, but you failed to describe my circumstance and I think it
because I am not a writer, however I do have a message to share.
Try to understand my predicament of my situation, when I talk to the
Witnesses of God, he tells me, "Just live your life without telling
anyone; if God wants it to come to past even if you don't tell anyone
it will happen."
Now, he is wiser than me I think, but he knows how special I am and he
knows that he has been given the power of God in his right hand.
Now, I understand everyone's concern about me being sick in the head,
but I like to point out that the scripture reveal that this was going
to be what everyone would think about me.
Therefore, whenever says I am sick in the head, it only reinforces my
belief that I am the one who I say I am, because the scriptures say
that everyone was going to be rejected and think that I am sick in
the head.
Now, try to see me in a better light, because you have not offered a
methodology for testing if I am right about whom I think I am, but you
have given me your judgment about my mental state without any
methodology for test if I am sick or not, and you are only relying
upon a misunderstood state that I made about being mislabeled in the
past, and no matter how many times I tell it to Mr. Manning, he
complete ignores the story of I was mislabeled.
I think in all fairness, the following counsel could be the best
course anyone could take...
(Proverbs 9:8) Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise
man, and he will love thee.
I did use not use a proverb using "fool", because it connotation is
offensive and derogatory, and I think that it will only work to
inflame the situation even more were I to use the word "fool".
Now, I understand why there are godly men like "Rod" who would want to
come to my aide, and I also understand how shocking my messages seems
to everyone. But I want everyone to know that I am just a work in
progress, God has not revealed everything to me, I do know something
things, and perhaps that is why I sometime go overboard with the whole
theme of my being who I say I am. And it I present to you my belief,
I hope there is someone here knowledge to show me how wrong I am in my
understanding of certain key scriptures.
Know that it all been very gradual, a line upon line, a concept upon
concept, a vision upon vision, and a mystery upon mystery, but I still
don't have the complete picture of what I am being called to do. I
come here hoping to be set free of any strong delusions, or see others
come to the same conclusions as me.
However, when you have others visiting with you without you saying
anything, and they come because God told them to come and search you
out, then you will start to believe the way I do. Know that if were
not for the others giving me confirmation I would have forgotten all
the miracles and angels who have come to visit me, and just call it
wishful thinking, but I kept getting these confirmations from visitors
and God is telling them the same thing about me.
Now, if it turns out that I am wrong, then it would make sense that
you're the one with the greater understanding of the scriptures, so if
there is no metrology for proving me right, then I propose that you
test my understanding of the scriptures against yours; okay?
I will pick a chapter in the bible and ask you to identify who is
being described in that chapter, I will also give you a multiple
choice selection to pick, that way you will see that I understand
clearly what is the normal understanding is about that chapter, but I
also will be offering you the inspired understanding I have received
about that chapter. Then once I see what you understand is about that
chapter, I will then explain why I think your wrong; okay? Perhaps,
you feel that someone more knowledge should be the one to test me,
then I understand, but then you should understand that pasting
judgement on my mental state without testing, make you a false
Witness.
I am wrong about reveling before time, but the Prophet Zechariah said
that Joshua was going to be forgiven, and given another chance in
Zech. Chapter 3:3-4. My transgression are that I reveal things to the
unworthy.
HERE IS THE TEST Chapter Isaiah Chapter 53
Isaiah speaks about the Messiah—His humiliation and suffering are
described—He makes his soul an offering for sin and makes intercession
for the transgressor.
Question: Who did Prophet Isaiah write about, A) Jesus Christ; B)
Joshua Gemmell; C) Jesus Christ & Joshua Gemmell
Give me your pick, and then I will explain to you why you are wrong
and I am right; sound fair?
>Try to understand my predicament of my situation, [there are
Two Witnesses, and I am not alone, when I talk to the
other witness] of God, he tells me, "Just live your life without
telling anyone; and if God wants it to come to past even if you don't
tell anyone it will happen."
>He is wiser than me, but knows how special I am and he
>knows that he has been given the power of God in his right hand.
>Now, I understand everyone's concern about me being sick in the head,
>but I like to point out that the scriptures reveal that this was going
>to be what everyone would think about me.
Therefore, whenever [anyone] says I am sick in the head, it only
reinforces the belief that I am the one, because the scriptures say
>that everyone was going to be rejected [me because they] think
>Now, try to see me in a better light, because you have not offered a
>methodology for testing if I am right about whom I think I am, but you
>have given me your judgment about my mental state without any
>methodology for test if I am sick or not, and [your] only relying
>upon a misunderstood [the statement] that I made about being
mislabeled in the past, and no matter how many times I tell it to Mr.
Manning, he complete ignores the story [that] I was mislabeled.
>I did not use a proverb [with] "fool", because it connotation is
>offensive and derogatory, I think that it will only work to
>inflame [a] situation even more were I to use the word "fool".
>Now, I understand why there are godly men like "Rod" who would want to
>come to my aide, and I also understand how shocking my messages seems
>to everyone. But I want everyone to know that I am just a work in
>progress, God has not revealed everything to me, [but] I do know somethings, >and that is why I sometimes go overboard with the whole
>theme of my being who I say I am. And I present to you my belief,
>[in] hope [that] someone here [knowledgable will] show me how wrong I am in my
>understanding of certain key scriptures [that are driving me to beleive what I beleive].
A Note Of Explanation: why I make so many mistakes--
It is in my nature to stutter both in word and print. I don't know why
I have this weakness, but I think it is to keep me humble. I was
forty years old when I began to receive eternal knowledge from the
Lord Our Righteousness.<G><
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:52:08 -0600, Joshua Gemmell
> <sunwalker1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> A Note Of Explanation: why I make so many mistakes--
> It is in my nature to stutter both in word and print.
I see no condemnation Joshua.
I don't know why
> I have this weakness, but I think it is to keep me humble. I was
> forty years old when I began to receive eternal knowledge from the
> Lord Our Righteousness.<G><
God's plan has been unfolding for many years now Joshua. The wisest
choice is to step back and allow the plan to unfold, when you do this
the events will determine the truth and everyones questions will be
satisfied.
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:40:17 -0800 (PST), Linda Lee
> <lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
> >That's probably a good idea, and I'm impressed with your response.
> >Looks like someone somehow has done their good deed for God.
> >Many mentally ill people who become interested in the Scriptures think
> >the writings are referring directly to them or think God has chosen
> >them out of all the people in the world for a special purpose that no
> >one else has ever been able to fulfill. We've had many chosen ones,
> >one of the "two witnesses", and even returning Messiahs here.
> >That does not mean that God does not reveal himself to believers or
> >maybe even to unbelievers; it just means that those who are blessed
> >enough to receive something like that are not all that unique in the
> >overall scheme of things.
> I understand everything, and I think you're a wise and knowledgeable
> person, but you failed to describe my circumstance and I think it
> because I am not a writer, however I do have a message to share.
> Try to understand my predicament of my situation, when I talk to the
> Witnesses of God, he tells me, "Just live your life without telling
> anyone; if God wants it to come to past even if you don't tell anyone
> it will happen."
> Now, he is wiser than me I think, but he knows how special I am and he
> knows that he has been given the power of God in his right hand.
> Now, I understand everyone's concern about me being sick in the head,
> but I like to point out that the scripture reveal that this was going
> to be what everyone would think about me.
Where in the Scriptures exactly does it say this?
> Therefore, whenever says I am sick in the head, it only reinforces my
> belief that I am the one who I say I am, because the scriptures say
> that everyone was going to be rejected and think that I am sick in
> the head.
> Now, try to see me in a better light, because you have not offered a
> methodology for testing if I am right about whom I think I am, but you
> have given me your judgment about my mental state without any
> methodology for test if I am sick or not, and you are only relying
> upon a misunderstood state that I made about being mislabeled in the
> past, and no matter how many times I tell it to Mr. Manning, he
> complete ignores the story of I was mislabeled.
> I think in all fairness, the following counsel could be the best
> course anyone could take...
> (Proverbs 9:8) Reprove not a scorner, lest he hate thee: rebuke a wise
> man, and he will love thee.
> I did use not use a proverb using "fool", because it connotation is
> offensive and derogatory, and I think that it will only work to
> inflame the situation even more were I to use the word "fool".
> Now, I understand why there are godly men like "Rod" who would want to
> come to my aide, and I also understand how shocking my messages seems
> to everyone. But I want everyone to know that I am just a work in
> progress, God has not revealed everything to me, I do know something
> things, and perhaps that is why I sometime go overboard with the whole
> theme of my being who I say I am. And it I present to you my belief,
> I hope there is someone here knowledge to show me how wrong I am in my
> understanding of certain key scriptures.
I would think that if you were given a special mission by God, your
mission would be your focus, and not that everyone recognize you for
being "special" in this way. In other words, you'd work to further
your mission, and not work to be recognized. What exactly do your
think is your mission? Or do you not know; you just know you're
special?
> Know that it all been very gradual, a line upon line, a concept upon
> concept, a vision upon vision, and a mystery upon mystery, but I still
> don't have the complete picture of what I am being called to do.
Oh, I see you answer my question.
> I come here hoping to be set free of any strong delusions, or see others
> come to the same conclusions as me.
If you are recognized as special or if you are accused of being
mentally ill; either will confirm you are right that you are special?
> However, when you have others visiting with you without you saying
> anything, and they come because God told them to come and search you
> out, then you will start to believe the way I do. Know that if were
> not for the others giving me confirmation I would have forgotten all
> the miracles and angels who have come to visit me, and just call it
> wishful thinking, but I kept getting these confirmations from visitors
> and God is telling them the same thing about me.
> Now, if it turns out that I am wrong, then it would make sense that
> you're the one with the greater understanding of the scriptures, so if
> there is no metrology for proving me right, then I propose that you
> test my understanding of the scriptures against yours; okay?
You'll have to be specific about which Scriptures you believe refer to
you.
> I will pick a chapter in the bible and ask you to identify who is
> being described in that chapter, I will also give you a multiple
> choice selection to pick, that way you will see that I understand
> clearly what is the normal understanding is about that chapter, but I
> also will be offering you the inspired understanding I have received
> about that chapter.
I am particularly interested in seeing what Scripture you refer to
that says you, or someone, will be rejected as mentally ill.
> Then once I see what you understand is about that
> chapter, I will then explain why I think your wrong; okay? Perhaps,
> you feel that someone more knowledge should be the one to test me,
> then I understand, but then you should understand that pasting
> judgement on my mental state without testing, make you a false
> Witness.
I have not passed judgment on you. And I am not a "scorner"; I
believe in miracles occurring in this present day and in the past, and
have experienced a couple myself.
> I am wrong about reveling before time, but the Prophet Zechariah said
> that Joshua was going to be forgiven, and given another chance in
> Zech. Chapter 3:3-4. My transgression are that I reveal things to the
> unworthy.
> HERE IS THE TEST Chapter Isaiah Chapter 53
> Isaiah speaks about the Messiah—His humiliation and suffering are
> described—He makes his soul an offering for sin and makes intercession
> for the transgressor.
> Question: Who did Prophet Isaiah write about, A) Jesus Christ; B)
> Joshua Gemmell; C) Jesus Christ & Joshua Gemmell
> Give me your pick, and then I will explain to you why you are wrong
> and I am right; sound fair?
First things first; tell me the Scripture you think refers to you as
being rejected for being mentally ill, as you've claimed before to be
one of the Two Witnesses, so I would think it must refer to them.
Right?
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 07:24:59 -0800, Pete <d...@kn.app> wrote:
>On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:54:19 +1100, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:52:36 -0800, Pete <d...@kn.app> wrote:
>>>On Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:32:28 -0600, Joshua Gemmell wrote:
>>>> Know that there is no part of the scriptures that I don't understand,
>>>> and I like you to know that tribulation period starts in April 2016
>>>> and end April 2023. And my mission for the world begins 2019.
>> You see God as a spirt?
>>>-- >>>Peter
>yes
>Joh 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall
>worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to
>worship him. >Joh 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in
>spirit and in truth.
>And now is. This was spoken by Jesus BC
I don't want to upset you, but your seeing things from a human
perspective.
If you want to know God's perspective try looking at it from His
point of view.
When we say Spirit and Flesh we human are making a distinction from
our point of view.
In the eyes of God all matter is *Spirit Matter*, because all things
are present unto God, and He makes not distinction between spiritual
matter called Spirit and physical matter called Flesh.
It is only human who need to make the distinction between spiritual
and physical, because when people die, humans cannot see the spirit
matter leaving the physical body.
However, from God's point of view, when a person dies, He will
continue to can see their spirit body, so from God's point of view
that person is still alive in the spirit, and there is no need to make
a distinction from Him point of view.
So, from God's point of view all things are spiritual, spirit matter,
and the only difference is that the spirit substance is a finer spirit
matter, and the physical flesh is a grosser spirit matter.
So from God's point of view all things, including mankind is spirit
matter.
I know it hard for you to understand this but try to understand this
scripture....
(Ephesians 6:12) "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but
against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the
darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."
If you can understand it, then you can understand why "unclean spirits
like frogs" are demons.
And now you can understand why in the battle of Armageddon there will
be 200 million army on the side of Gog Because he will have 200,000
men of the flesh, and each man will be possessed by 100 demons.
Therefore (200,000 men X 100 demons) = 200 million.
(Revelation 9:16) "And the number of the army of the horsemen were two
hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them."
There is no way on earth that you can mobilize 200 million men to
Megiddo, because it took the United States one year just to move half
million to Iraq. Therefore if you are moving 200 million it would
take at this rate of half a million a year, 400 million earth years.
The only way to understand this part of prophecy is that John is
revealing the future from God's perspective, and God does not make the
distinction between men (flesh and blood) and demons (evil spirits)
and what John reveals is that he saw 200,000 men each possessed by 100
evil spirits.
Therefore when you read the book of Revelation, and it talks about
"frogs come out of the mouth of dragon, and out of the mouth of the
beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet" we are not given the
number "three" to mean that there will only be three men in the flesh,
but that these evil spirits will hop around like frogs, from one body
to the next useable body.
Do you understand what I am saying? Take for example, the Pope, if he
is possessed by a unclean spirit (frog), and dies of old age, the frog
then jump on to the next one that comes ago, in this case, the next
Pope.
Now, John reveal; that there are three main characters, but theses
characters can be a long line of Popes, or Kings, or whatever. Get
the point?
I will not tell you who the Dragon, Beast, or False Prophet could be,
because you would have to understand that John is see this through
God's eyes, and God can see all things at once, the beginning to the
end of this earth all at once, and you have to stop trying to see it
all from man's point of view to get picture.
Here allow me to give you an example: when John talk about the "Beast
that rose from the sea"...
(Revelation 13:1) "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a
beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and
upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."
What do you understand it to mean?
I will tell, it means that the "Beast" from God's point of view is the
land mass rise up from the Mediterranean Sea. It took place not in the
future, but in the past, long time ago the geologist tells us that the
"land mass we call Italy once rose from the sea" out of all the land
mass that we see in that part of the world, only Italy did not exist,
and rose out of the sea. Therefore, from looking at it from God's
perceptive I was able to identify the Beast as being Italy. Now, if I
am right the rest of the scriptures about the BEAST will start to make
sense, for example...
(Rev. 17: 7) "And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel?
I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that
carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns."
Now we know that the BEAST (Italy) is carrying (the woman), and by
reading the (Rev. 17:5) "...upon her forehead was a name written,
MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF
THE EARTH." We now know that the BEAST (Italy) is carrying "BABYLON
THE GREAT", which has to be a city in Italy!
How do we know for sure? By watching the rest fit together, (Rev. 17:
18) "And the woman which thou sawest is the great city, which reigneth
over the kings of the earth."
Now we know the BEAST (Italy) is carrying BABYLON THE GREAT, THE
MOTHER OF HARLOTS (Rome), which reigneth over the Ten European
Kingdoms. There has already been ten kingdoms under the Pope, the
last kingdom was Greece.
How do we know that there would be ten kingdoms, by reading (Rev.
17:12) "And the ten horns which thou sawest are TEN KINGS, which have
received no kingdom as yet, but received power as kings one hour with
the beast."
Now, we know that what John saw were the breakup of the Holy Roman
Empire, which when it broke up became the ten kingdoms of Europe. And
Greece was the last kingdom to rise, and it did in fact had one hour
with the with the BEAST (ITALY). One hour here is in reference to
God's time, which is a little over 40 years. The Kingdom of Greece AD
1830 - 1974, equals a period of time of 144 years, therefore it did in
fact have one hour with the beast. And the same can be said about the
other nine European Kingdoms, therefore, its ignorance to be looking
toward the European Union to fulfill this prophecy, when it has
already taken place.
I can continue if you like, but what's the point in doing so, you are
ready made up your mind that nobody but you know the answers. <G><
<lindagirl...@juno.com> wrote:
>> HERE IS THE TEST Chapter Isaiah Chapter 53
>> Isaiah speaks about the Messiah—His humiliation and suffering are
>> described—He makes his soul an offering for sin and makes intercession
>> for the transgressor.
>> Question: Who did Prophet Isaiah write about, A) Jesus Christ; B)
>> Joshua Gemmell; C) Jesus Christ & Joshua Gemmell
>> Give me your pick, and then I will explain to you why you are wrong
>> and I am right; sound fair?
>First things first; tell me the Scripture you think refers to you as
>being rejected for being mentally ill, as you've claimed before to be
>one of the Two Witnesses, so I would think it must refer to them.
>Right?
(Isaiah 53:3) He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows,
and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him;
he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
(Isaiah 53:4) ¶Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our
sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and
afflicted.
Do you see my point? I am that "man of sorrows" for I am acquainted
with grief whenever I give my report of having seen the "arm of the
Lord Jesus Christ revealed in my affairs, unlike anyone before me.
Yes, I have borne everyone's griefs, and carried everyone's sorrows
that there is no peace on earth because Satan control of the kingdoms
of this world, however every when they hear my report about having
been bruised in the heel by Satan when I was five years old, quickly
starts to hid their faces from me, and think I am sick in the head.
And yes I am the tender plant that as plant which Prophet Isaiah
reveals in Isaiah 11:1-4 "And there shall come forth a *ROD* out of
the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: And the
spirit of the LORD [Jesus Christ] shall rest upon him, the spirit of
wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit
of knowledge, and of the fear of he LORD; and shall make him of quick
understanding in the fear of the LORD [Jesus Christ]: and he shall not
judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing
of his ears: but with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and
reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the
earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall
he slay the wicked."
Do you see what I am saying? I am the tender rod that budded from the
Stem of Jesse (family tree of Christ), and the Branch that grew of the
roots of my father was his firstborn child who brought forth a Branch
(the one of the Two Witnesses).
SO, Isaiah is saying that the Two Witnesses are related to Jesus
Christ, they are from the Holy Grail Family of Christ, and their
mission for the world is to reclaim the that which King David their
ancestor bought with gold, called Mount Moriah, which was given to
King David's Family has a eternal inheritance, only the Two Witnesses
had the divine right and legal rights to reclaim what was never sold
away, and the Two Witnesses will then built the Jerusalem Temple on
Mount Moriah. But before this can happen, the Two Witnesses must be
resurrected before the world, because the tribe of Judah requires a
sign, our resurrection will be the sign that we were indeed called to
built the Temple.
Now, the Prophet Zechariah reveals that it will not be the Jews of the
tribe of Judah that shall built the Jerusalem Temple, yes I know the
Jews are report to have all the material of the temple in storage
right now, just wait for the chance to build it. But according to
Prophet Zechariah, it will be the Two Witnesses that accomplish this
task to build the temple, because only they have the legal and divine
rights to reclaim the temple mount!
(Zech. 6:11-13) "Then take silver and gold, and make crowns, and set
them upon the head of Joshua the son of Josedech (Jesus), the high
priest: and speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD [Jesus
Christ] of Hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH
(David); and he shall grow up out of his place [in America], and he
shall build the temple of the LORD [in Jerusalem]: even he shall build
the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and
rule upon his throne [the Throne of David]; and he shall be a priest
upon his throne [which thing old King David was never a priest]: and
the counsel of peace shall be between them both [the Two Witnesses].
Now, I don't understand why all the jealous among the men of the
church, and clearly, if I could I would not want to drink this bitter
cup, that I must lay down my life, but I came to do the will of Him
that sent me.
Did you know that I was the first prophecy that God gave in the bible?
Yes, and I don't feel that this makes me happy to know, because I
God's secret weapon against Satan, and that is why I am being cut some
slack by God...
(Zech. 3:3) "Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood
before the angel."
(Zech. 3:4-5) "And he answered and spake unto those that stood before
him, saying, Take away the filthy garment from him. And unto him he
said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass form thee, and I
will clothe thee with change of raiment. And I said, Let them set a
fair mitre upon his head. So the set a fair mitre upon his head, and
clothed him with garments, And the angel of the LORD stood by."
Do you know that the first prophecy given by God was Genesis 3:15?
(Genesis 3:15) "And I will put enmity between thee (Satan) and the
woman (Kingdom of God), and between thy seed [the tares] and her seed
[the wheat]; it (Joshua) shall bruise thy head [over the kingdom of
this world], and thou shalt bruise his [right] heel."
What we have he is God telling Satan from the beginning what his end
will be on earth! Yes, I was the one chose to be God's secret weapon
against Satan, because there is a law in heaven that says that Satan
cannot use his own hands to harm a child under eight years old. Satan
must use a human because the of demands justice if he ever harms a
child under eight years of age with his own hands! And I was the
first to be harmed by Satan own hands, and I was only five years old.
Yes, I have told the story many times, how I was playing in an large
open field on top of two trailers that were hitch together, all of the
sudden all the other older children ran out of the field, and a man
dress in a three piece black suit wearing a black hat with a small
brim, appeared before me and started talking to me, he said, "If you
don't get off the trailers you are going to get hurt." My older
sister saw the man talking to me, and my mother saw me in a vision
getting hurt and was on her way to help me! And no sooner that this
man in black told me I was going to get hurt, the trailers moved and
my right heel was bruised to the very bone. As I felt the warm blood
soak my foot, I yelled for the man in black to help me, and I witness
him disappear before my eyes!
My mom could not speak English, and God sent a German with a car, and
he carried me to the hospital, and said, "If he need blood I will
provide the blood for him." Yes, my mother ancestors are German, and
Spanish. So, I have no doubt he was an ancestor of mine sent to help
me. Because it before, I was only two years old and my sister gave me
a bunch of baby aspirins and my face turned blue, and a my mother ran
to the nearby store, and the owner closed his shop didn't understand
my mom but knew that something was wrong, and took me an my sister to
hospital and there my mom crying because she could not speak English,
as my mother enter the elevator of the hospital because they were
going to separate me and my sister and put us in to different floors,
and my mother could not be with both of us, and was crying, a Doctor
enter the elevator and could speak the same language as my mother, and
had the same last name as my mother and he said, "I to look for you
for I knew you had the same name as me." My mother told him that they
were going to put us in two different rooms, and she didn't know what
she could do, the doctor said, I will take care of it they shall be in
the same room, and I will have another bed put in there for you to
stay with them during the night. yes, he took care of us like family,
even provide the transportation when it when we were ready to go the
next day. Yes, you say you believe in miracles, my whole life filled
with, certainly God has had an interest in my affairs throughout my
existence upon this earth.
Now, it would be many years before I would learn why God had sent his
angel to warn me that I was going to get hurt in that open field, and
the angel do nothing at all to stop it from happening, but actually
cause it to happen.
After I received the priesthood at age twelve, I was asking God in
prayer why his angel did help to stop my heel from being bruise to
the very bone. Because I had to live with that scar all my life as a
remind of what had happened that day in a small Cajun town. God told
me to go an open the family bible to see where it parted, and I did it
as he commanded, and it opened to Genesis 3:15, and God told me that
it had been Satan who appeared before me, and that He (Jesus) had to
part the scrolls before he began his mission on earth also.
Well, what am I do to - hide the fact that God loves me and has had an
interest in all of affairs upon this earth? That would offend our
God, I must be the Witness of his mighty hands, and if I must suffer
grief I do it willing for the glory of Christ my Lord.
Now, because I was harmed by Satan's own hands, this give me the right
to direct the priesthood of God in capturing Satan and bring him in
chains before the Lord, during the coronation of Jesus Christ as
...
> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:25:08 -0600, Joshua Gemmell wrote:
> > On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:52:08 -0600, Joshua Gemmell
> > <sunwalker1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > A Note Of Explanation: why I make so many mistakes--
> > It is in my nature to stutter both in word and print. I don't know why
> > I have this weakness, but I think it is to keep me humble. I was
> > forty years old when I began to receive eternal knowledge from the
> > Lord Our Righteousness.<G><
> If you were one of two witnesses you would not be here yet. You would be
> here for 3.5 years in the tribulation and then be stoned to death and not
> via marijuana.
Hahahahahaha...
> If you were the prophet to be revealed in the Middle of the
> 7 then you would be familiar with a number for would associate with a beast
> and satan.
> God is *not* the author of confusion.
Or it could be that you are just lacking in understanding as yet,
Pete. Certainly that is the case with you with me.
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:46:43 -0800, Pete <d...@kn.app> wrote:
>On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:25:08 -0600, Joshua Gemmell wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:52:08 -0600, Joshua Gemmell
>> <sunwalker1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> A Note Of Explanation: why I make so many mistakes--
>> It is in my nature to stutter both in word and print. I don't know why
>> I have this weakness, but I think it is to keep me humble. I was
>> forty years old when I began to receive eternal knowledge from the
>> Lord Our Righteousness.<G><
>If you were one of two witnesses you would not be here yet. You would be
>here for 3.5 years in the tribulation and then be stoned to death and not
>via marijuana. If you were the prophet to be revealed in the Middle of the
>7 then you would be familiar with a number for would associate with a beast
>and satan.
>God is *not* the author of confusion.
Knowing that I must die once I finished my mission troubles me. I
don’t want to die.
The Lord has kept it from me because He didn’t want me to suffer
thinking about it.
I just found out this June 2012, and it has made me feel very down,
but I understand that once I am resurrected I will be loved and
accepted by those should have been my friends. I shall forgive them
for having had a hand in causing my death.
"Whom the God wishes to destroy, he first deprives of their senses."
Euripides Greek tragic dramatist (484 BC - 406 BC)
"Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad." Henry Wadsworth
Longfellow
Pete, if madness is confusion of the mind then Euripides and
Longfellow must of had wrong? Is that what you meant?
I know that the half-mad Emperor Tiberius was syphilis-ridden, so you
don’t think that it was an act of God’s retribution?
It’s reported that American also has uniquely high adolescent and
adult syphilis.
All I know is that God’s Word cannot return to Him voided. If God
says that acts of immorality cannot produce happiness, then I
understand why syphilis happens someone people, it’s because God is
not a liar, if he says immorality will not produce happiness, then it
must be that there are things present in this world that will fulfill
the Word of God. Like syphilis.
You see Peter, I have a different understanding of God, perhaps that
is why I am able to bring down angels. And may that is why my prayers
are answered instantly, because I am able to direct my prayers to the
right God.
If I were to believe that God was a purple dinosaur, how effective
would my prayer be? But if I had the correct understanding about God’s
true nature, then my prayers would have greater effect on being
answered instantly.
Whenever God answers someone praying to the wrong God, He is being
merciful. But when God answers my prayers it is because I am able to
direct my pray towards the right God. To know God, is Eternal Life.
Simple put, if God were to lie, He would stop being God. Therefore,
when God says something, his angels are sure to care out everything
God says. For God cannot lie, and remain God.
That is why when Adam and Eve at of the Tree of Knowledge, God had to
place a angel with a sword of fire guarding the way of the Tree of
Life.
Because the Tree of Life would have kept Adam and Eve from dying.
And that would have made God a liar if they had run to the Tree of
Life and partaken of it’s fruit.
(Genesis 3:4) "And the serpent said unto woman [a lie], "ye shall not
surely die: for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then you
eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
Yes, it was a lie the serpent to Eve, for God said, (Genesis 3:3)"ye
shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die".
You see Peter, there are many things God cannot do, He cannot lie, and
he cannot altar Truth, like go back in time and change what happened
in the past. Now, this does not mean God cannot go back in time, he
can, and that does not mean that he cannot altar Truth, he can but
will not do.
There are many things He cannot do, the list is long, therefore if God
says "Man cannot have happiness in wickedness." Then God’s angels
will make sure man does not have happiness in sin or transgressions.
Do you know the difference between sins and transgressions?
Sin is when you do not know it is wrong and you do anyway like the
atheist.
Transgression is when you know it is wrong, but you do it anyway like
a Christian.
Which of the two have committed the greater error?
Do you know Peter?
You have challenged my wisdom more than once, let’s see your answer,
show me what you have, perhaps I am wrong about you, let see your
wisdom to judge is greater than mine; tell me which of the two, the
Atheist or the Christian has committed the greater offense? <G><
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 19:46:43 -0800, Pete <d...@kn.app> wrote:
>On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 21:25:08 -0600, Joshua Gemmell wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:52:08 -0600, Joshua Gemmell
>> <sunwalker1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> A Note Of Explanation: why I make so many mistakes--
>> It is in my nature to stutter both in word and print. I don't know why
>> I have this weakness, but I think it is to keep me humble. I was
>> forty years old when I began to receive eternal knowledge from the
>> Lord Our Righteousness.<G><
>If you were one of two witnesses you would not be here yet. You would be
>here for 3.5 years in the tribulation and then be stoned to death and not
>via marijuana. If you were the prophet to be revealed in the Middle of the
>7 then you would be familiar with a number for would associate with a beast
>and satan.
Colossians 1:16 says God created Satan and gave him his personality.
>God is *not* the author of confusion.
Colossians 1:16 says God *is* the author of confusion.
On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 22:20:05 -0600, Rod <nhraf...@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 11/14/2012 9:25 PM, Joshua Gemmell wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Nov 2012 20:52:08 -0600, Joshua Gemmell
>> <sunwalker1...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> A Note Of Explanation: why I make so many mistakes--
>> It is in my nature to stutter both in word and print.
> I see no condemnation Joshua.
> I don't know why
>> I have this weakness, but I think it is to keep me humble. I was
>> forty years old when I began to receive eternal knowledge from the
>> Lord Our Righteousness.<G><
> God's plan has been unfolding for many years now Joshua. The wisest
> choice is to step back and allow the plan to unfold, when you do this
> the events will determine the truth and everyones questions will be
> satisfied.
> Have a good evening Joshua.
Dear Brother Rod,
Thank you again for your kindness in my time of need. I want you to
know that treating me like a brother shall not go unrewarded. I am
going testify before God that you were a brother to me when the world
stood against me.
The Lord’s universe is amazing Brother Rod, and when I am resurrected
you shall always have a place in my table and in my house. Once the
Two Witnesses are resurrected the caught up to the throne of God, and
then the are sent back to rule the two world capitals, Zion and
Jerusalem. The Lawgiver hall rule Zion in America, and the Emperor
shall rule Jerusalem.
I am called to be the Lawgiver, the other witness shall be the Ensign
for the gathering of God’s people in the last days, even the Lost
Tribes of Israel.
There is going to be Seven Servants that rule this world under Christ
Jesus, they are the living menorah that shall establish the Kingdom of
Heaven.
Two of them are here today, the other five are busy with the people
in the spirit world, the people that lived during they time on earth,
the other five are Noah, Moses, Elijah, Peter, Joseph. All the
prophets have been waiting for the day when there would Seven born,
the Two Witnesses complete the seven.
The calling of the seven is a life time appointment that continues to
the next world. There are seven thousand years, and one for each seven
thousand years. The reason why there are two in the last days is
because old King David was original chosen to be the center branch of
the menorah, but he fell from his position for having plotted the
murder of Uriah. Therefore, God had to replace King David with
another one who God would sent in the last days. This person who was
called to replace old King David is the other Witness, he has
inherited all the gifts of the old King David. He even sings great,
he’s been a lead singer and has performed at the House of Blues.
I wish you to be at my side when I am given my place among the other
seers, know that there will be fifty seers chosen, it is a life time
position, and the only condition God has given me for picking whom
will be called is that must have been friends before the world knew
who I was. You qualify.
So, the angels now know, that I have elected you, and even when I
don’t know you name, the angels will be able to find you.
The duty of the fifty will require that they be "priests and kings",
and it will be fifty who received the revelations of Christ, and they
will teach the world in how create the perfect world, to prepare if
for the day when the stars will fall from the sky. Yes, Brother Rod,
it is not the stars that fall, but the earth, for it will be drawn
closer to the throne of God, not only this earth, but 100 million
earths, and they will be clustered near each other so they can travel
between the worlds. Yes, great are the works of God, and great is the
work that the fifty shall be called to do.
I must stop here, because the rest will be told to you in your heart.
<G><
That is why when Adam and Eve [ate] of the Tree of Knowledge, God had
to place a angel with a sword of fire guarding the way of the Tree of
Life.
>Because the Tree of Life would have kept Adam and Eve from dying.
>And that would have made God a liar if they had run to the Tree of
>Life and partaken of it s fruit.
>(Genesis 3:4) "And the serpent said unto woman [a lie], "ye shall not
>surely die: for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then you
>eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
Yes, it was a lie the serpent [told] Eve, for God said, (Genesis
3:3)"ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die".
That is why when Adam and Eve [ate] of the Tree of Knowledge, God had
to place a angel with a sword of fire guarding the way of the Tree of
Life.
>Because the Tree of Life would have kept Adam and Eve from dying.
>And that would have made God a liar if they had run to the Tree of
>Life and partaken of it s fruit.
>(Genesis 3:4) "And the serpent said unto woman [a lie], "ye shall not
>surely die: for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then you
>eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
Yes, it was a lie the serpent [told] Eve, for God said, (Genesis
3:3)"ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die".
>That is why when Adam and Eve [ate] of the Tree of Knowledge, God had
>to place a angel with a sword of fire guarding the way of the Tree of
>Life.
Adam and Eve were deceived by God. They had no way of knowing
God would change from a caring parent to a raving psychopath.
>>Because the Tree of Life would have kept Adam and Eve from dying.
>>And that would have made God a liar if they had run to the Tree of
>>Life and partaken of it s fruit.
God did lie.
>>(Genesis 3:4) "And the serpent said unto woman [a lie], "ye shall not
>>surely die: for God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then you
>>eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."
That was not a lie. God lied when he said they would die the day
they ate.
>Yes, it was a lie the serpent [told] Eve, for God said, (Genesis
>3:3)"ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die".