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Re: The battle for Biblical Creationism

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1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist

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May 21, 2013, 3:26:10 PM5/21/13
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"harry k" wrote in message news:

>There was either never any rain prior to the flood or there were
>rainbows prior to the flood. You can't have it both ways.

It appears there was no normal rain prior to the flood.

"The Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no man to do work
on the land. 6 But a mist went up from the earth, watering all the face of
the land.
Gen 2:5-6 (BBE)

Jeff...

gladys swager

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May 21, 2013, 6:58:39 PM5/21/13
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I find your topic heading "The Battle for Biblical Creationism' of interest,
as I have been posting in this website on the subjext of Creationism since 2002I am aware that there are a number of Creationist organisations.

It is a fact that all humans are fallible on some issues...
and with the greater number of means available in a modern society for the expression of ideas there can be confusion on some issues.

Australia has been 'the home' of one Creation organisation....
Creation Ministries International (CMI) creation.com/

As far as I am aware it was the first 'home organisation' of Creation ministries in Australia, a play on words as the first communications were made on equipment on the kitchen table by the medical doctor who became the first chairman of the organisation, and who gained the support of accredited Tertiary level professionals in Scientific studies.

Evolution, as taught in schools, both Governemnt and some religious schools,
from the early 1960's in NSW and most likely in other Australian States and elsewhere in the world, was unscientific, despite being taught as Science -
there was not any scientific proof for it, nor could there have been.

It might be said that the Creationist understandings began in earnest from
the time of the Scopes trial in the USA in the mid 1920's.

gladys swager

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May 21, 2013, 11:32:32 PM5/21/13
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Barry OGrady

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May 22, 2013, 1:36:24 AM5/22/13
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I hope you get a reply from yourself.

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Barry OGrady

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May 22, 2013, 8:20:49 AM5/22/13
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On Tue, 21 May 2013 15:58:39 -0700 (PDT), gladys swager
<gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, May 22, 2013, 1st Century Apostolic Traditionalist wrote:
>> "harry k" wrote in message news:
>>There was either never any rain prior to the flood or there were
>>rainbows prior to the flood. You can't have it both ways. It appears there was
>> no normal rain prior to the flood. "The Lord God had not sent rain
>> on the earth and there was no man to do work on the land.
>> 6 But a mist went up from the earth, watering all the face of the land.
>> Gen 2:5-6 (BBE) Jeff...
>
>I find your topic heading "The Battle for Biblical Creationism' of interest,
>as I have been posting in this website on the subjext of Creationism
>since 2002I am aware that there are a number of Creationist
>organisations.

I didn't know you were aware. I though you were a posting robot.

>It is a fact that all humans are fallible on some issues...
>and with the greater number of means available in a modern society for
>the expression of ideas there can be confusion on some issues.

Creation Ministries Irrational has internal legal problems and
creationists can't agree amongst themselves.

>Australia has been 'the home' of one Creation organisation....
>Creation Ministries XXXXXXXX (CMI) cretins.com/

>Evolution, as taught in schools, both Governemnt and some religious schools,
>from the early 1960's in NSW and most likely in other Australian
>States and elsewhere in the world, was unscientific, despite being
>taught as Science - there was not any scientific proof for it, nor
>could there have been.

Gladys thinks Christians are idiots.

gladys swager

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Jun 5, 2013, 6:17:37 PM6/5/13
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On Wednesday, May 22, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
<snipped>
Barry, You have either been given incorrect information
on the creation/evolution issue or you have a thinking disorder.
You are in error, but you are so convinced that your knowledge is the truth
that it is hard to penetrate your consciousness.

God created. It was the only way that life could come onto the world -
the world, also the universe, that God had created.
creation.com/charles-darwin-questions-and-answers

Barry OGrady

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Jun 5, 2013, 6:31:01 PM6/5/13
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On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 15:17:37 -0700 (PDT), gladys swager
<gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wednesday, May 22, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
><snipped>
>Barry, You have either been given incorrect information
>on the creation/evolution issue or you have a thinking disorder.

Have you contacted Google support?

>You are in error, but you are so convinced that your knowledge is the truth
>that it is hard to penetrate your consciousness.

Have you contacted Google support?

>God created. It was the only way that life could come onto the world -
>the world, also the universe, that God had created.

For you to know that you must be God.
Praise Lord Gladys for she knows all.

>creation.com/charles-darwin-questions-and-answers

Error 666, God not found.

Have you contacted Google support?

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‘A being so powerful and so
full of knowledge as a God who could create the universe, is to our
finite minds omnipotent and omniscient, and it revolts our
understanding to suppose that his benevolence is not unbounded, for
what advantage can there be in the sufferings of millions of the lower
animals throughout almost endless time?’
Charles Darwin

gladys swager

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Jun 5, 2013, 7:07:47 PM6/5/13
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On Thursday, June 6, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>On Wednesday, May 22, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:

> >Barry, You have either been given incorrect information on the creation/evolution issue or you have a thinking disorder.

> >You are in error, but you are so convinced that your knowledge is the truth > >that it is hard to penetrate your consciousness.

> >God created. It was the only way that life could come onto the world -
> >the world, also the universe, that God had created.

> For you to know that you must be God. Praise Lord Gladys for she knows all.

More of your nonsense, Barry.

>creation.com/charles-darwin-questions-and-answers

It comes upon my computer.

A being so powerful and so full of knowledge as a God who could create the universe, is to our finite minds omnipotent and omniscient, and it revolts our understanding to suppose that his benevolence is not unbounded, for what advantage can there be in the sufferings of millions of the lower animals throughout almost endless time? - Charles Darwin

There is a time when we all must stand before the Judgement seat of God.
It is not for us to judge God.

In his grief concerning his daughter,
C.Darwin reacted against God, even while acknowledging the existence of God.
And there are many, as you have done, Barry, who have rejected God
for reasons of their/your own.
But to state that the Universe must have just made itself
is extreme foolishness.
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1 : 1
You and other Atheists have led others to renounce God.
But your puny cries cannot do away with God.

Barry OGrady

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Jun 6, 2013, 1:02:54 AM6/6/13
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On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 16:07:47 -0700 (PDT), gladys swager
<gsw...@gmail.com> wrote:

Have you contacted Google support?

>On Thursday, June 6, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
>> On Wed, 5 Jun 2013, gladys swager wrote:
>>On Wednesday, May 22, 2013, Barry OGrady wrote:
>
>> >Barry, You have either been given incorrect information on the
>> >creation/evolution issue or you have a thinking disorder.
>
>> >You are in error, but you are so convinced that your knowledge is
>> >the truth that it is hard to penetrate your consciousness.
>
>> >God created. It was the only way that life could come onto the world -
>> >the world, also the universe, that God had created.
>
>> For you to know that you must be God. Praise Lord Gladys for she knows all.
>
>More of your nonsense, Barry.

You would need to be God to know that God created.

>>creation.com/charles-darwin-questions-and-answers
>
>It comes upon my computer.

I posted the worthwhile parts.

>A being so powerful and so full of knowledge as a God who could create
>the universe, is to our finite minds omnipotent and omniscient, and it
>revolts our understanding to suppose that his benevolence is not
>unbounded, for what advantage can there be in the sufferings of
>millions of the lower animals throughout almost endless time?
>- Charles Darwin

I told you I agree with you on that so no need to repeat it.

>There is a time when we all must stand before the Judgement seat of God.
>It is not for us to judge God.

You have that arse about.
God is in no position to judge us but we must judge God so we
don't end up like you.

>In his grief concerning his daughter,
>C.Darwin reacted against God, even while acknowledging the existence of God.

That is bullshit Gladys. Creation Ministries Irrational are out to
trash all the good things in this world.

>And there are many, as you have done, Barry, who have rejected God
>for reasons of their/your own.

Reason I have told you about many times.

>But to state that the Universe must have just made itself is extreme
>foolishness.

That's probably why only fools like you say that.

>In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Genesis 1 : 1

Before that humans created God.
You don't think God created itself do you?

>You and other Atheists have led others to renounce God.

We do our best!

>But your puny cries cannot do away with God.

Your puny cries cannot do away with evolution.

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�A being so powerful and so
full of knowledge as a God who could create the universe, is to our
finite minds omnipotent and omniscient, and it revolts our
understanding to suppose that his benevolence is not unbounded, for
what advantage can there be in the sufferings of millions of the lower
animals throughout almost endless time?�
Charles Darwin
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