Why cant the left wing be proud of black fellas without making up lies.
Mosley
Generation. Why do we give so much attention to people like Noal Person, who
at best is a racist.
Does any body know of the first team to beat England in cricket.
Does anybody know who Harold Blair was.
Does anybody know of the Jindyworobak Movement
Does any body know who Leonard Watters was
What about this poem from WW11
It doesn't fit in with the way we are led to believe relations to be between
the diggers.
"THE COLOURED DIGGER"
He came and joined the colours, when the War God's anvil rang,
He took up modern weapons to replace his boomerang,
He waited for no call-up, he didn't need a push,
He came in from the stations, and the townships of the bush.
He helped when help was wanting, just because he wasn't deaf;
He is right amongst the columns of the fighting A.I.F.
He is always there when wanted, with his Owen gun or Bren,
He is in the forward area, the place where men are men.
He proved he's still a warrior, in action not afraid,
He faced the blasting red hot fire from mortar and grenade;
He didn't mind when food was low, or we were getting thin,
He didn't growl or worry then, he'd cheer us with his grin.
He'd heard us talk democracy--, They preach it to his face--
Yet knows that in our Federal House there's no one of his race.
He feels we push his kinsmen out, where cities do not reach,
And Parliament has yet to hear the Abo's maiden speech.
One day he'll leave the Army, then join the League he shall,
And he hope's we'll give a better deal to the Aboriginal.
(By Sapper Bert Beros, a non-Aboriginal soldier in World War Two. Written
about an Aboriginal soldier, Private West).
History will look back upon the selfish and spiteful politicly correct
people of today with shame along with the Narzis, Chairman Moa's henchmen,
macarthyits, and the witch hunters of Salem
Aldis Ozols
Mosley wrote:
>
> "THE COLOURED DIGGER"
Thanks for the poem -- that was good.
--
How to Lobby Politicians
http://www.zeta.org.au/~aldis/lobby.html
"Reality is whatever doesn't go away when you stop believing in it."
-- Philip K Dick
Ned Latham
> why do we have to endure lies like the Highmarch Bridge, and the
> Stolen Generation. Why do we give so much attention to people like
> Noal Person, who at best is a racist.
Why? Follow the money.
> Does any body know of the first team to beat England in cricket.
> Does anybody know who Harold Blair was.
> Does anybody know of the Jindyworobak Movement
> Does any body know who Leonard Watters was
For me, no to all four: can you give us a bit of info?
> What about this poem from WW11
>
> It doesn't fit in with the way we are led to believe relations
> to be between the diggers.
As most real aboes will tell you, the PC brigade and the professional
aboes are full of shit.
> "THE COLOURED DIGGER"
>
> He came and joined the colours, when the War God's anvil rang,
> He took up modern weapons to replace his boomerang,
> He waited for no call-up, he didn't need a push,
> He came in from the stations, and the townships of the bush.
>
> He helped when help was wanting, just because he wasn't deaf;
> He is right amongst the columns of the fighting A.I.F.
> He is always there when wanted, with his Owen gun or Bren,
> He is in the forward area, the place where men are men.
>
> He proved he's still a warrior, in action not afraid,
> He faced the blasting red hot fire from mortar and grenade;
> He didn't mind when food was low, or we were getting thin,
> He didn't growl or worry then, he'd cheer us with his grin.
>
> He'd heard us talk democracy--, They preach it to his face--
> Yet knows that in our Federal House there's no one of his race.
> He feels we push his kinsmen out, where cities do not reach,
> And Parliament has yet to hear the Abo's maiden speech.
>
> One day he'll leave the Army, then join the League he shall,
> And he hopes we'll give a better deal to the Aboriginal.
>
> (By Sapper Bert Beros, a non-Aboriginal soldier in World War Two.
> Written about an Aboriginal soldier, Private West).
Netiquette-related apology to all for not snipping this poem, but
I think it deserves rereading by all. Men like Private West do more
for race relations than the pollies and the PC brigade.
Does anyone know what happened to Beros and West?
----snip----
Ned
--
To reply, cut out my nose and make the met a net.
Mosley
"Ned Latham" <nen...@apex.met.au> wrote in message
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> Mosley <sug...@ii.net> wrote:
> > why do we have to endure lies like the Highmarch Bridge, and the
> > Stolen Generation. Why do we give so much attention to people like
> > Noal Person, who at best is a racist.
>
> Why? Follow the money.
>
> > Does any body know of the first team to beat England in cricket.
An all aboriginal Team that went to england, and won as many games as they
lost, they were treated like royalty there, and loved the place.
> > Does anybody know who Harold Blair was.
Aboriginal opera singer of the 40s, again well looked after and liked in
dear old blighty
> > Does anybody know of the Jindyworobak Movement
A movement in the 20s till the war for the advance ment of australian native
art
> > Does any body know who Leonard Watters was
>
Aboriginal fighter pilot
soapbox
> Mosley <sug...@ii.net> wrote:
<big snip>
Beros got awarded heaps of medals, proclaimed a hero and returned to his
well payed job .... West was forgotten and returned to his place on the
cattle station earning a fraction of the pay his white colleagues made, it
was to be many years before he was awarded the simple right to vote
(something the left wing were screaming for long before this poem was
written).
--
My Karma Ran Over My Dogma
__________________________
soapbox
soapbox
<sug...@ii.net> wrote:
How come every other Mosley post I've read is full of grammatical and
spelling errors and this one is in perfect english? Are there two Mosleys?
> why do we have to endure lies like the Highmarch Bridge, and the Stolen
> Generation. Why do we give so much attention to people like Noal Person, who
> at best is a racist.
>
> Does any body know of the first team to beat England in cricket.
> Does anybody know who Harold Blair was.
> Does anybody know of the Jindyworobak Movement
> Does any body know who Leonard Watters was
>
> What about this poem from WW11
>
> It doesn't fit in with the way we are led to believe relations to be between
> the diggers.
>
> "THE COLOURED DIGGER"
>
>
>
> He came and joined the colours, when the War God's anvil rang,
>
> He took up modern weapons to replace his boomerang,
>
> He waited for no call-up, he didn't need a push,
>
> He came in from the stations, and the townships of the bush.
>
>
>
> He helped when help was wanting, just because he wasn't deaf;
>
> He is right amongst the columns of the fighting A.I.F.
>
> He is always there when wanted, with his Owen gun or Bren,
>
> He is in the forward area, the place where men are men.
>
>
>
> He proved he's still a warrior, in action not afraid,
>
> He faced the blasting red hot fire from mortar and grenade;
>
> He didn't mind when food was low, or we were getting thin,
>
> He didn't growl or worry then, he'd cheer us with his grin.
>
>
>
> He'd heard us talk democracy--, They preach it to his face--
>
> Yet knows that in our Federal House there's no one of his race.
>
> He feels we push his kinsmen out, where cities do not reach,
>
> And Parliament has yet to hear the Abo's maiden speech.
>
> One day he'll leave the Army, then join the League he shall,
>
> And he hope's we'll give a better deal to the Aboriginal.
>
>
>
>
>
> (By Sapper Bert Beros, a non-Aboriginal soldier in World War Two. Written
> about an Aboriginal soldier, Private West).
>
>
> History will look back upon the selfish and spiteful politicly correct
> people of today with shame along with the Narzis, Chairman Moa's henchmen,
> macarthyits, and the witch hunters of Salem
--
Kym HORSELL
>why do we have to endure lies like the Highmarch Bridge, and the Stolen
>Generation. Why do we give so much attention to people like Noal Person, who
>at best is a racist.
>Does any body know of the first team to beat England in cricket.
"First team"? Do you have your question right? Missing adjective, perhaps?
And I'm continually (if not continuously) surprised your
"superior intellect" can't manage to arrange looking up the answers
to your probably mis-stated homework problems even more quickly
than it takes you to frame them properly.
BTW, "England" was "probably" playing cricket before 1868.
--
R. Kym Horsell
KHor...@EE.LaTrobe.EDU.AU K...@CS.Binghamton.EDU
http://www.ee.latrobe.edu.au/~khorsell http://cs.binghamton.edu/~kym
Mosley
> well payed job .... West was forgotten and returned to his place on the
> cattle station earning a fraction of the pay his white colleagues made, it
> was to be many years before he was awarded the simple right to vote
> (something the left wing were screaming for long before this poem was
> written).
Beros and west bought a shrimp boat, and went shrimping. Soapbox is lying
again.
Mosley
"soapbox" <z221...@student.unsw.edu.au.deleteme> wrote in message
news:z2213441-070...@max214029.servers.unsw.edu.au...
> In article <3874ef39$0$16...@motown.iinet.net.au>, "Mosley"
> <sug...@ii.net> wrote:
>
> How come every other Mosley post I've read is full of grammatical and
> spelling errors and this one is in perfect english? Are there two Mosleys?
>
>
> > why do we have to endure lies like the Highmarch Bridge, and the Stolen
> > Generation. Why do we give so much attention to people like Noal Person,
who
> > at best is a racist.
> >
> > Does any body know of the first team to beat England in cricket.
soapbox
<sug...@ii.net> wrote:
> Why when I have some one beat on facts, they pick on my grammar?
Wasn't picking.. I said it was written in perfect english.
Kym HORSELL
>Why when I have some one beat on facts, they pick on my grammar?
We are to assume unsupported allegations, your homework questions and
poetry must pass for "facts" when posted by yourself?
A-hah!
I'm beginning to see why "Hilter invented carpet bombing"
can "also" be a "fact" at MosleygruppenHQ.
>"soapbox" <z221...@student.unsw.edu.au.deleteme> wrote in message
>news:z2213441-070...@max214029.servers.unsw.edu.au...
>> In article <3874ef39$0$16...@motown.iinet.net.au>, "Mosley"
>> <sug...@ii.net> wrote:
>> How come every other Mosley post I've read is full of grammatical and
>> spelling errors and this one is in perfect english? Are there two Mosleys?
>> > why do we have to endure lies like the Highmarch Bridge, and the Stolen
>> > Generation. Why do we give so much attention to people like Noal Person,
>who
>> > at best is a racist.
>> > Does any body know of the first team to beat England in cricket.
>> > Does anybody know who Harold Blair was.
>> > Does anybody know of the Jindyworobak Movement
>> > Does any body know who Leonard Watters was
>> > What about this poem from WW11
[71 lines of "WW11" poetry].
Mosley
England never lost a test until An Aboriginal team went over and beat them,
followed later by a white Australian team.
"Kym HORSELL" <k...@cs.mu.oz.au> wrote in message
news:8542pr$olj$1...@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU...
> "Mosley" <sug...@ii.net> writes:
> >why do we have to endure lies like the Highmarch Bridge, and the Stolen
> >Generation. Why do we give so much attention to people like Noal Person,
who
> >at best is a racist.
> >Does any body know of the first team to beat England in cricket.
> ...
>
> "First team"? Do you have your question right? Missing adjective, perhaps?
>
> And I'm continually (if not continuously) surprised your
> "superior intellect" can't manage to arrange looking up the answers
> to your probably mis-stated homework problems even more quickly
> than it takes you to frame them properly.
>
> BTW, "England" was "probably" playing cricket before 1868.
Ned Latham
> > > Stolen Generation. Why do we give so much attention to people like
> > > Noal Person, who at best is a racist.
> >
> >
> > > Does any body know of the first team to beat England in cricket.
>
> lost, they were treated like royalty there, and loved the place.
>
>
> dear old blighty
>
>
> native art
>
>
Thanks, China.
--
Ned
Ned Latham
> nen...@apex.met.au wrote:
----snip----
> > Does anyone know what happened to Beros and West?
>
> Beros got awarded heaps of medals, proclaimed a hero and returned to his
> well payed job .... West was forgotten and returned to his place on the
> cattle station earning a fraction of the pay his white colleagues made, it
> was to be many years before he was awarded the simple right to vote
> (something the left wing were screaming for long before this poem was
> written).
Mmm. Typical establishment arseholing.
You said it was `many years' before he got the vote. Can you tell us whether
it was a citizenship award as with, say, Robert Tudawalli, or did he have
to wait for the referendum in the sixties?
Thanks, Soapbox.
Ned Latham
> "Mosley" <sug...@ii.net> wrote:
>
> How come every other Mosley post I've read is full of grammatical
> and spelling errors and this one is in perfect english? Are there
> two Mosleys?
Just to reassure you, Soapbox:
> > why do we have to endure lies like the Highmarch Bridge, and the
Hindmarsh.
> > Does any body know of the first team to beat England in cricket.
> > Does anybody know who Harold Blair was.
> > Does anybody know of the Jindyworobak Movement
> > Does any body know who Leonard Watters was
> >
> > What about this poem from WW11
No question marks.
> > One day he'll leave the Army, then join the League he shall,
> > And he hope's we'll give a better deal to the Aboriginal.
======
Should be `hopes'.
> > History will look back upon the selfish and spiteful politicly
> > correct people of today with shame along with the Narzis,
Nazis. Or is he being tongue in cheek?
> > Chairman Moa's henchmen,
Mao. Or :-)?
> > macarthyits,
McCarthyism.
> > and the witch hunters of Salem
No full stop.
There you go. There's only one after all.
Che Guava
Mosley <sug...@ii.net> wrote in article
<3874ef39$0$16...@motown.iinet.net.au>...
Snip
>
> What about this poem from WW11
Pretty good.. the language is a bit overblown ("War God's Anvil rang") but
that is typical of the times. (As is the title)
But its a good poem, in my view.
Probably the best thing you've posted in all the time I've known you..
I don't think Dave Moss would agree with the sentiments though..
not selfish enough.
But then, blackfellas have a tradition of sharing,
it's almost a form of bush socialism... ;-)
>
> It doesn't fit in with the way we are led to believe relations to be between
> the diggers.
doesn't it? I am pretty sure I've read posts in this very NG recently,
describing
generally good ralations between diggers from all ethnic backgrounds.
>
> "THE COLOURED DIGGER"
>
>
> He came and joined the colours, when the War God's anvil rang,
>
> He took up modern weapons to replace his boomerang,
>
> He waited for no call-up, he didn't need a push,
>
> He came in from the stations, and the townships of the bush.
>
>
>
> He helped when help was wanting, just because he wasn't deaf;
>
> He is right amongst the columns of the fighting A.I.F.
>
> He is always there when wanted, with his Owen gun or Bren,
>
> He is in the forward area, the place where men are men.
>
>
>
> He proved he's still a warrior, in action not afraid,
>
> He faced the blasting red hot fire from mortar and grenade;
>
> He didn't mind when food was low, or we were getting thin,
>
> He didn't growl or worry then, he'd cheer us with his grin.
>
>
>
> He'd heard us talk democracy--, They preach it to his face--
>
> Yet knows that in our Federal House there's no one of his race.
>
> He feels we push his kinsmen out, where cities do not reach,
>
> And Parliament has yet to hear the Abo's maiden speech.
>
> One day he'll leave the Army, then join the League he shall,
>
> And he hope's we'll give a better deal to the Aboriginal.
>
>
Which League?.. its probably not the AFL..
>
>
>
> (By Sapper Bert Beros, a non-Aboriginal soldier in World War Two. Written
> about an Aboriginal soldier, Private West).
Bloody bewdy sport...
Got any more?
> History will look back upon the selfish and spiteful politicly correct
> people of today with shame along with the Narzis, Chairman Moa's henchmen,
> macarthyits, and the witch hunters of Salem
That would be Chairman Moa of NZ would it? ;-)
Mosley
"Che Guava" <che_...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Mosley <sug...@ii.net> wrote in article
> <3874ef39$0$16...@motown.iinet.net.au>...
>
> Snip
>
> >
> > What about this poem from WW11
>
> Pretty good.. the language is a bit overblown ("War God's Anvil rang") but
> that is typical of the times. (As is the title)
Bullshit, its not any more or less relivent to any time this centery.
You made that up
>
> But its a good poem, in my view.
you mean its politicly acceptable
> Probably the best thing you've posted in all the time I've known you..
> I don't think Dave Moss would agree with the sentiments though..
> not selfish enough.
> But then, blackfellas have a tradition of sharing,
> it's almost a form of bush socialism... ;-)
THATS A STEROTYPE. PLEASE DONT DO IT.
>
> >
> > It doesn't fit in with the way we are led to believe relations to be
between
> > the diggers.
>
> doesn't it? I am pretty sure I've read posts in this very NG recently,
> describing
> generally good ralations between diggers from all ethnic backgrounds.
>
and keep hereing how they suffered racisam in the army.
My family are no strangers to the armed forces, as i have told youy before,
and never have i heard of racisam. Mind you my family don't go looking for
the slightist comment like others.
> >
> > "THE COLOURED DIGGER"
> >
> >
> > He came and joined the colours, when the War God's anvil rang,
> >
> > He took up modern weapons to replace his boomerang,
> >
> > He waited for no call-up, he didn't need a push,
> >
> > He came in from the stations, and the townships of the bush.
> >
> >
> >
> > He helped when help was wanting, just because he wasn't deaf;
> >
> > He is right amongst the columns of the fighting A.I.F.
> >
> > He is always there when wanted, with his Owen gun or Bren,
> >
> > He is in the forward area, the place where men are men.
> >
> >
> >
> > He proved he's still a warrior, in action not afraid,
> >
> > He faced the blasting red hot fire from mortar and grenade;
> >
> > He didn't mind when food was low, or we were getting thin,
> >
> > He didn't growl or worry then, he'd cheer us with his grin.
> >
> >
> >
> > He'd heard us talk democracy--, They preach it to his face--
> >
> > Yet knows that in our Federal House there's no one of his race.
> >
> > He feels we push his kinsmen out, where cities do not reach,
> >
> > And Parliament has yet to hear the Abo's maiden speech.
> >
> > One day he'll leave the Army, then join the League he shall,
> >
> > And he hope's we'll give a better deal to the Aboriginal.
> >
> >
>
> Which League?.. its probably not the AFL..
It doesent matter Che, you would not understand.
>
> >
> >
> >
> > (By Sapper Bert Beros, a non-Aboriginal soldier in World War Two.
Written
> > about an Aboriginal soldier, Private West).
>
> Bloody bewdy sport...
> Got any more?
yes
Ode to Feminism, lost causes, and the girls that Che has known
She's on your arm, a blaze of light,
Taking inventory who is there.
The ones who are her type
Know they're her type.
She hitched a ride with you
Up the stairs.
The sisterhood,
their cause is good.
I support these Aussie women.
I've settled down,
don't fool around.
Asian food is good.
>
> > History will look back upon the selfish and spiteful politicly correct
> > people of today with shame along with the Narzis, Chairman Moa's
henchmen,
> > macarthyits, and the witch hunters of Salem
>
> That would be Chairman Moa of NZ would it? ;-)
no he was Chinese leader, but no worth explaining exsacualy what he did, you
would not understand.
che_...@my-deja.com
"Mosley" <sug...@ii.net> wrote:
>
> "Che Guava" <che_...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:01bf58cd$fb235540$6c041ecb@default...
> >
> >
> > Mosley <sug...@ii.net> wrote in article
> > <3874ef39$0$16...@motown.iinet.net.au>...
> >
> > Snip
> >
> > >
> > > What about this poem from WW11
> >
> > Pretty good.. the language is a bit overblown ("War God's Anvil
rang") but
> > that is typical of the times. (As is the title)
>
> Bullshit, its not any more or less relivent to any time this centery.
Coming in from the station..?
Yet to hear a maiden speech?
things change
> You made that up
no, they really change.
>
> >
> > But its a good poem, in my view.
>
> you mean its politicly acceptable
Do you think its politically unacceptable?
I mean what I said.
I am sure the only Australian poet I have praised on this
NG (apart from recent comments about Banjo (Patterson
not Clarke)) was Les Murray for his "Crying Man".
Now Les, the 'redneck', hardly has a reputation for PC, does he?
I don't judge art by it's political pedigree.
If you want boring PC art try Socialist realism,
or commercial TV advertisements.. both appalling
in different ways.
>
> > Probably the best thing you've posted in all the time
> > I've known you..
> > I don't think Dave Moss would agree with the sentiments though..
> > not selfish enough.
> > But then, blackfellas have a tradition of sharing,
> > it's almost a form of bush socialism... ;-)
>
> THATS A STEROTYPE. PLEASE DONT DO IT.
No, a stereotype would be "*all* blackfellas share"
to say there is a 'tradition of sharing' is a simple fact,
(there isn't a society on earth without 'a tradition of
sharing'.. is there?)
> > > It doesn't fit in with the way we are led to believe
> > > relations to be between the diggers.
> >
> > doesn't it? I am pretty sure I've read posts in this
> > very NG recently, describing generally good relations
try me.
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > (By Sapper Bert Beros, a non-Aboriginal soldier in World War Two.
> Written
> > > about an Aboriginal soldier, Private West).
> >
> > Bloody bewdy sport...
> > Got any more?
>
> yes
>
> Ode to Feminism, lost causes, and the girls that Che has known
>
> She's on your arm, a blaze of light,
> Taking inventory who is there.
> The ones who are her type
> Know they're her type.
> She hitched a ride with you
> Up the stairs.
>
> The sisterhood,
> their cause is good.
> I support these Aussie women.
> I've settled down,
> don't fool around.
> Asian food is good.
a poem! for me? people will talk!
Thanks Mos..
the 'blaze of light' was very good, prescient even..
..her name is Helen.. from "Helios" .. the Sun.
warm, bright, dazzling, etched upon my my retina
.. sunshine.
---------------
Paradise Valley
This is my dreaming
these old worn hills in Gippsland
these gentle green mounds
with scars of ancient rock
From the hilltop at dawn
shadows begin to move
turn into grazing kangaroos
then back into silent shadows
Just before sunrise the wind picks up
bending the sound of the river below
sometimes carrying it up to me
sometimes carrying it away
now like the ocean
now like a distant car
now the rattle of train wheels
bending and curling on the breeze.
Rabbits browse nervously, cows rise
from their sheltered corner of the valley
and scatter down the river flat
Sheep clamber over the rocky saddle to await the sun
Light touches the tip of westward mountains
smokey browns and gold
and dips down into yellow pastures
a crow chants 'awake' on the edge of hearing,
at the horizon of sound.
A pair of rosellas flash upstream
passing a sacred ibis going the other way.
At first the air is colder than the river.
Dancing vapour plumes rise from its surface
and join to form a local fog
Sheep are crying
Cows lowing and clearing their throats
grass gently sways
dew glistens
a lone grey thumper traverses a distant slope
Trees are dappled reflections in the river
impressionist life mocking art.
>
> >
> > > History will look back upon the selfish and
> > > spiteful politicly correct people of today with shame
> > > along with the Narzis, Chairman Moa's henchmen,
> > > macarthyits, and the witch hunters of Salem
> >
> > That would be Chairman Moa of NZ would it? ;-)
>
> no he was Chinese leader, but no worth explaining
> exsacualy what he did, you would not understand.
>
Don't let anyone tell you you're not quick, lightnin. ;-)
Che
---
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Mao - extinct aquatic ostrichlike totalitarian leader of China.
DNA - National Association of Dyslexics
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Alan Luchetti
Mosley <sug...@ii.net> wrote in message
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> > Beros got awarded heaps of medals, proclaimed a hero and returned to his
> > well payed job .... West was forgotten and returned to his place on the
> > cattle station earning a fraction of the pay his white colleagues made,
it
> > was to be many years before he was awarded the simple right to vote
> > (something the left wing were screaming for long before this poem was
> > written).
> Beros and west bought a shrimp boat, and went shrimping. Soapbox is lying
> again.
"My names Mosely. People call me Forest Gump"
alan
L
\-/
Mosley
I can run like the wind blows.
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