Printers: Epson R800 vs Canon ip8500
viz
down to.
Anyone had good/bad experiences with either?
I am interested in printing on fine art papers, in particular canvas. How
does either one perform?
/viz
Ryadia
added. Neither of these printers will handle real Artists canvas and the
Canon colours won't last very long at all without a varnish over them to
seal the surface.
Why don't you look at the HP designjet 100? This is the small brother to
my 130 which prints brilliantly on everyday Artist's canvas, bought by
the roll and coated with a sealer.
There's one of mine on Ebay id you want to see the texture and like:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41511&item=4357868023&rd=1
Doug
John Ewing
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Nice photo - how much did you pay the model to get out of bed? :)
John
viz
On 15/2/05 9:20 PM, in article 37e0p3F...@individual.net, "Ryadia"
<rya...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> viz wrote:
>> Looking for a new printer, Epson R800 vs Canon ip8500 is what I have got
>> down to.
>>
>> Anyone had good/bad experiences with either?
>>
>> I am interested in printing on fine art papers, in particular canvas. How
>> does either one perform?
>>
>> /viz
>>
> Just be aware the "canvas" Epson supply is only linen with a stiffener
> added. Neither of these printers will handle real Artists canvas and the
> Canon colours won't last very long at all without a varnish over them to
> seal the surface.
Hmmm which is the reason why I think Epson also supply a "varnish" cartridge
if memory serves me correctly...
/viz
k
From: "Ryadia" <rya...@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: aus.photo
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 6:20
Subject: Re: Printers: Epson R800 vs Canon ip8500
: viz wrote:
: > Looking for a new printer, Epson R800 vs Canon ip8500 is what I have
got
: > down to.
: >
: > Anyone had good/bad experiences with either?
: >
: > I am interested in printing on fine art papers, in particular canvas.
How
: > does either one perform?
: >
: > /viz
: >
: Just be aware the "canvas" Epson supply is only linen with a stiffener
: added. Neither of these printers will handle real Artists canvas and the
: Canon colours won't last very long at all without a varnish over them to
: seal the surface.
:
: Why don't you look at the HP designjet 100? This is the small brother to
: my 130 which prints brilliantly on everyday Artist's canvas, bought by
: the roll and coated with a sealer.
for a review of how well the HP performs.. and such speed! so cost
efficient! so.. very!
Ryadia
> : >
> : Just be aware the "canvas" Epson supply is only linen with a stiffener
> : added. Neither of these printers will handle real Artists canvas and the
> : Canon colours won't last very long at all without a varnish over them to
> : seal the surface.
> :
> : Why don't you look at the HP designjet 100? This is the small brother to
> : my 130 which prints brilliantly on everyday Artist's canvas, bought by
> : the roll and coated with a sealer.
>
>
> for a review of how well the HP performs.. and such speed! so cost
> efficient! so.. very!
>
> http://www.neilslade.com/Papers/printtest.html
>
That link does not have any information about the designjet 100 or 130
HP printer. If your news service lists rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
have a look at what Alan Browne in Canada had to say about some 900mm x
610mm prints from my DJ130 I sent him a few weeks ago.
Doug
k
| k wrote:
| That link does not have any information about the designjet 100 or 130
| HP printer. If your news service lists rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
| have a look at what Alan Browne in Canada had to say about some 900mm x
| 610mm prints from my DJ130 I sent him a few weeks ago.
Hio doug
I sent 12 prints to photographers around the world from my S800 canon years
agho when they first came out and ALL of the recipients mistook them for
RA4's - ALL of them had bought a Canon S800 within two weeks - one of them
was Robert Earnest who has substantial exposure in North America, another
has the McDonalds contract from the Chicago area, another an IT guy and
photog in Canada - another, the head of Graphic Design, Multimedia and
Photography at CMC Tafe. In this same college I was the senior tech for
graphic design (who had over 120 grands worth of printers), multimedia and
photography - where we had a pair of Epson 7600's that the students would
bypass to get to the Canon S820.
we had RA4's, Epson pigment and canon dye prints on the walls - the RA4 sat
there for eight years looking grand, the canon was still there two years
after it was hung but the Epsons were pulled down after a year in
embarrassment by the lecturers after it faded to orange.
We had a HP wide format in the Design Centre. The design students used to
sneak in and use the Canons too
k
Deciple of EOS
> there for eight years looking grand, the canon was still there two years
> after it was hung but the Epsons were pulled down after a year in
> embarrassment by the lecturers after it faded to orange.
>
> We had a HP wide format in the Design Centre. The design students used to
> sneak in and use the Canons too
>
> k
>
an air-conditioned environment without changing colour. I myself have
owned a variety of brands of inkjet printers and your description flys
in the face of all my experiences.
I'm the guy who sold 450 baby show photos the year before last and
printed on Canon S9000. To keep credibility with all those people who
bought them (the photos) I exchanged every last one of them for true
photographs when the clients started to complain about the photos
changing colour after as little as a month. Canon's answer?
"Well the S9000 is not a professional printer you know and there is
information on our web site about how to preserve your photos. It's not
as if we've withheld information".
Not a single complaint from anyone since I changed to both HP and Epson
printers. Maybe all the "design students" were sneaking about anyway.
Personally I thing the lecturers must have got confused and actually
pulled the Canon pics. You didn't change the labels by any chance, did
you? Canon printers might make colourful pictures but they sure as hell
haven't learnt the difference between outright lies and enthusiastic
advertising.
JD
--
EOS my GOD,
Thank you for this daily ISO boost.
Thank you for the colours of my pictures.
Damn you to hell for the 20D
that locks up without warning!
k
"Deciple of EOS" <decipl...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| k wrote:
| > "Ryadia" <rya...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| >
| > we had RA4's, Epson pigment and canon dye prints on the walls - the RA4
sat
| > there for eight years looking grand, the canon was still there two years
| > after it was hung but the Epsons were pulled down after a year in
| > embarrassment by the lecturers after it faded to orange.
| >
| > We had a HP wide format in the Design Centre. The design students used
to
| > sneak in and use the Canons too
| >
| > k
| >
| There is not a single drop of ink Canon ever made that will stand up in
| an air-conditioned environment without changing colour.
I take it you mean dye and not their pigment inks..
I myself have
| owned a variety of brands of inkjet printers and your description flys
| in the face of all my experiences.
there have been many differing points of view and many differing
experiences.
| I'm the guy who sold 450 baby show photos the year before last and
| printed on Canon S9000. To keep credibility with all those people who
| bought them (the photos) I exchanged every last one of them for true
| photographs when the clients started to complain about the photos
| changing colour after as little as a month. Canon's answer?
eek!@
I'd hate to have to exchange all the fine prints I sold over the last few
years, especially at the prices I sold them for, but then again - I get
repeat buyers and haven't had a complaint yet so mebbe I'm just lucky ;-)
|
| "Well the S9000 is not a professional printer you know and there is
| information on our web site about how to preserve your photos. It's not
| as if we've withheld information".
hmm..
| Not a single complaint from anyone since I changed to both HP and Epson
| printers.
well that's good for you!
Maybe all the "design students" were sneaking about anyway.
| Personally I thing the lecturers must have got confused and actually
| pulled the Canon pics. You didn't change the labels by any chance, did
| you?
the student who did the prints ID'd them, nowt to do with any controlled
tests or anything.
: Canon printers might make colourful pictures but they sure as hell
| haven't learnt the difference between outright lies and enthusiastic
| advertising.
like Epson prior to the terrible orange shift discovery..
out of interest, what paper did you use for those 450 baby shts - not Canon
I hope, their paper *may* llok nice but it's awful for longevity
k