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Nev..

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Oct 18, 2009, 6:47:49 AM10/18/09
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A MAN was incinerated when his motorcycle caught fire while he was
apparently tending to it at the side of the road, police say.

Perth police said the 52-year-old man had pulled over to the side of
Albany Highway at Kelmscott, in the city's south-east, about 2.30pm
(WST) today.

Witnesses said he appeared to be checking his bike when it caught fire
and engulfed him in flames.

A police spokesman said the man died at the scene.

Nev..
'08 DL1000K8

Sp3

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Oct 18, 2009, 7:22:30 AM10/18/09
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Now, which (expert) manufactures use plastic, quick release,
connectors on the fuel lines. How many of these fail and spray fuel over
a hot engine? Mine did.
Cheers

Toosmoky

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Oct 18, 2009, 8:12:28 AM10/18/09
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Sp3 wrote:

> Now, which (expert) manufactures use plastic, quick release, connectors
> on the fuel lines. How many of these fail and spray fuel over a hot
> engine? Mine did.

I replaced mine with metal ones.

--
Toosmoky
Work to ride, Ride to Work...
http://users.tpg.com.au/smokey61/cafe

alx

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Oct 18, 2009, 4:56:02 PM10/18/09
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You just replaced the connectors on the hose or in the tank as well?

alx

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Oct 18, 2009, 5:01:20 PM10/18/09
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On Oct 18, 9:47 pm, "Nev.." <id...@mindless.com> wrote:
> http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26227169-12377,00....

>
> A MAN was incinerated when his motorcycle caught fire while he was
> apparently tending to it at the side of the road, police say.
>
> Perth police said the 52-year-old man had pulled over to the side of
> Albany Highway at Kelmscott, in the city's south-east, about 2.30pm
> (WST) today.
>
> Witnesses said he appeared to be checking his bike when it caught fire
> and engulfed him in flames.
>
> A police spokesman said the man died at the scene.
>
> Nev..
> '08 DL1000K8

If i had left mechanics to the "experts" over the years I would have
ended up with:-

* tyres fitted reversed
* front axle nuts loose
* missing brake pad
* oil leak on rear tyre
* fuel leaks from improperly fitted hose crimp
* battery terminal arcing to frame


Little wonder I do most all my own servicing now....and treat with
suspicion any work carried out by experts and their apprentices.

But I do look forward to the Coroner's Report on this tragedy.

Capt About Lunchtime

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Oct 18, 2009, 5:05:06 PM10/18/09
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"Toosmoky" <toos...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4adb...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

> Sp3 wrote:
>
>> Now, which (expert) manufactures use plastic, quick release, connectors
>> on the fuel lines. How many of these fail and spray fuel over a hot
>> engine? Mine did.
>
> I replaced mine with metal ones.

Can you provide some detials- Brand, cost and place or site of purchase ect.

I feel I should look into these and your experiance could prove helpfull

Thanks

Capt. A. L.


Nev..

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Oct 18, 2009, 6:12:00 PM10/18/09
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On Oct 19, 8:01 am, alx <alxr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 18, 9:47 pm, "Nev.." <id...@mindless.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26227169-12377,00....
>
> > A MAN was incinerated when his motorcycle caught fire while he was
> > apparently tending to it at the side of the road, police say.
>
> > Perth police said the 52-year-old man had pulled over to the side of
> > Albany Highway at Kelmscott, in the city's south-east, about 2.30pm
> > (WST) today.
>
> > Witnesses said he appeared to be checking his bike when it caught fire
> > and engulfed him in flames.
>
> > A police spokesman said the man died at the scene.
>
> > Nev..
> > '08 DL1000K8
>
> If i had left mechanics to the "experts" over the years I would have
> ended up with:-
>
> * tyres fitted reversed
> * front axle nuts loose
> * missing brake pad
> * oil leak on rear tyre
> * fuel leaks from improperly fitted hose crimp
> * battery terminal arcing to frame

Wow, exciting story! Your definition of an expert leaves a lot to be
desired. No wonder you have so much trouble. :)

Nev..

Nev..

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Oct 18, 2009, 6:12:24 PM10/18/09
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On Oct 19, 8:01 am, alx <alxr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 18, 9:47 pm, "Nev.." <id...@mindless.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26227169-12377,00....
>
> > A MAN was incinerated when his motorcycle caught fire while he was
> > apparently tending to it at the side of the road, police say.
>
> > Perth police said the 52-year-old man had pulled over to the side of
> > Albany Highway at Kelmscott, in the city's south-east, about 2.30pm
> > (WST) today.
>
> > Witnesses said he appeared to be checking his bike when it caught fire
> > and engulfed him in flames.
>
> > A police spokesman said the man died at the scene.
>
> > Nev..
> > '08 DL1000K8
>
> If i had left mechanics to the "experts" over the years I would have
> ended up with:-
>
> * tyres fitted reversed
> * front axle nuts loose
> * missing brake pad
> * oil leak on rear tyre
> * fuel leaks from improperly fitted hose crimp
> * battery terminal arcing to frame

Wow, exciting story! Your definition of an expert leaves a lot to be

alx

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Oct 18, 2009, 6:32:49 PM10/18/09
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No more trouble since ceasing to pay money to the Experts.

:-

alx

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Oct 18, 2009, 6:48:50 PM10/18/09
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On Oct 19, 8:05 am, "Capt About Lunchtime"
<cameron.ben...@bigpond.com.au> wrote:
> "Toosmoky" <toosm...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Probably google fuel fittings and your specific model of bike. Even
within models the appropriate metal fitting can vary from year to
year. (eg Triumphs).

Iain Chalmers

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Oct 18, 2009, 9:19:03 PM10/18/09
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"Nev.." <id...@mindless.com> wrote:

I'm with alx here - I took my Monster to the workshop attached to the
place I bought it (and owned by the Australian Ducati importer), and got
it back with the rear brakes incorrectly assembled so the first time I
used them - about 300m out of the workshop, the entire caliper and
mounting bracket swiveled around the axle and clunked into the
swingarm...

In hindsight, the assumption of "dealership owned by the imported ==
"expert" mechanics is _clearly_ wrong, but I suspect _many_ people would
still offer that as a "definition"...

On the other hand, even people who I still do consider "experts"
occasionally make mistakes - I got my bike back from a tire change at a
workshop I trust and respect with the front left hand brake caliper
mounting bolts only finger tight...

big

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you'll need the cocaine. Tape recorder for special music. Acapulco shirts.
Get the hell out of L.A. for at least 48 hours. Blows my weekend.

Warren Morgan

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Oct 18, 2009, 10:34:49 PM10/18/09
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>
> > > If i had left mechanics to the "experts" over the years I would have
> > > ended up with:-
>
> > > * tyres fitted reversed
> > > * front axle nuts loose
> > > * missing brake pad
> > > * oil leak on rear tyre
> > > * fuel leaks from improperly fitted hose crimp
> > > * battery terminal arcing to frame
>
Add to that some minor things...
- Front head-stem loosening after bearing replacement
- Rear brake light (is there a front one?) not connected
- Blinker stem not fitted tightly
And these from a prominent and reputable city service / dealership.
I guess I am luck my wheels haven't dropped off yet.

Nev..

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Oct 18, 2009, 10:42:04 PM10/18/09
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Wow, hooked two on the one line and I wasn't even fishing, well... not
the first time.

Nev..

alx

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Oct 19, 2009, 4:58:08 AM10/19/09
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eheh I was being polite before and didn't request you have your
medicated weeties before tapping replies.

Nev..

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Oct 19, 2009, 5:55:36 AM10/19/09
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Don't take it out on me. I'm not an expert.

Nev..
'08 DL1000K8

alx

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Oct 19, 2009, 7:49:30 AM10/19/09
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you sound like my therapist.

Toosmoky

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Oct 19, 2009, 9:12:58 AM10/19/09
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alx wrote:

> You just replaced the connectors on the hose or in the tank as well?

Both.

Toosmoky

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Oct 19, 2009, 10:05:45 AM10/19/09
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Capt About Lunchtime wrote:

> Can you provide some detials- Brand, cost and place or site of purchase ect.
>
> I feel I should look into these and your experiance could prove helpfull

I put most of the comments into the shop section of the old T595.net
site, now TriumphTorque with the shop section removed.

I originally purchased a full set of male and female fittings from the
T595.net shop. The males turned out to be a larger diameter that
wouldn't fit my lines. This was due to the recall that replaced smaller
6.4mm i.d. fuel lines on models prior to s/n 71698 with the 9.6mm i.d.
hoses and corresponding male fittings from later models. My bike had not
undergone the recall.

I bought a separate set of smaller male fittings to suit the original
lines from Victoria Fittings & Valves (address below)

I still have the larger fittings and will be using them when I fit the
later engine RSN.

Unfortunately the parts were purchased during a seven month hole in my
archived e-mail so I've been scouring other trails in my system for the
details. No details on prices.

These are nickel-plated brass;

Male - 2 x Colder CPC Part # LCD23006V

Female - 2 x Colder CPC Part # LCD10004BSPT

Get 'em from;

Victoria Fittings & Valves Pty. Ltd.
11 Thornton Crescent
Mitcham Victoria, Australia 3132
Contact Name: Russ McMullen
Phone: (61) 398731400
Fax: (61) 398731366
E-mail: sa...@vicfit.com

Cheers.

Capt About Lunchtime

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Oct 19, 2009, 10:01:46 PM10/19/09
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> These are nickel-plated brass;
>
> Male - 2 x Colder CPC Part # LCD23006V
>
> Female - 2 x Colder CPC Part # LCD10004BSPT
>
> Get 'em from;
>
> Victoria Fittings & Valves Pty. Ltd.
> 11 Thornton Crescent
> Mitcham Victoria, Australia 3132
> Contact Name: Russ McMullen
> Phone: (61) 398731400
> Fax: (61) 398731366
> E-mail: sa...@vicfit.com
>
> Cheers.
>
> --
> Toosmoky
> Work to ride, Ride to Work...

Ok thanks for that. My requirement is for a Ducati 748 but I'm guessing
that they will be able to accomodate me.
I'll give en a call

Capt. A. L.


alx

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Oct 19, 2009, 11:49:53 PM10/19/09
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OK. if i see you parked up on the side of the road it'll be safe to
stop :-)

James C

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Oct 21, 2009, 5:27:43 AM10/21/09
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Warren Morgan wrote:
> [...]

> And these from a prominent and reputable city service / dealership.
> I guess I am luck my wheels haven't dropped off yet.

C'mon, screw libel! Name & shame!

1diode

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Nov 8, 2009, 6:36:11 AM11/8/09
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On Oct 19, 8:01 am, alx <alxr...@gmail.com> wrote:

Or the mechanic at the 1000 klm service who 'tightened' the radiator
hose clamps.
Which popped a hose and burnt the crap out of my leg within 10 minutes
of leaving the shop.

The hose clamp bolt heads faced the ground, mechanic use a spanner on
them in the same direction as usual.
I spent hours going over the bike after that so I would trust it
again.


theo

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Nov 10, 2009, 1:26:39 AM11/10/09
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On Nov 8, 7:36 pm, 1diode <1di...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Or the mechanic at the 1000 klm service who 'tightened' the radiator
> hose clamps.
> Which popped a hose and burnt the crap out of my leg within 10 minutes
> of leaving the shop.
>
> The hose clamp bolt heads faced the ground, mechanic use a spanner on
> them in the same direction as usual.
> I spent hours going over the bike after that so I would trust it
> again

The trouble is that they teach apprentice mechanics by rote. The
righty tightey - left loosey only works if you're facing the bolt
head.

Theo

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