I am looking at buying a bike mid next year on a trip south and need advise
about a which one.
I'm not a beginner rider in the strict sense of the term but it has been a
long time since I have done any real regular riding and have never ridden on
the road much at all. 20 years ago I had an 88' DT175 which while not
powerful was light, entertaining and reliable off-road. Only problem I ever
had with it was a clutch when the rear wheel got clogged with clay.
Currently have a minibike which I only use for getting around at the show
grounds each year where I am photographer (and clown). The amount of
technology new bikes have is daunting.
A little insight into the place here. There are no Bike shops at all, You
can buy a Yamaha ag bike at local the local Toyota dealer as they sell
Yamaha but mainly for the outboards. They did get in 2 X 450 Yamaha bikes
for "By any Means" and sold them afterward at super high prices. Any parts
would need to be shipped in (1 month) or small parts can be airfreighted but
at inflated prices. The bike I buy would have to be reliable and all repairs
and servicing done by myself. A breakdown is almost unthinkable as the bike
would never be seen again and getting back to town would be difficult.
Other guys that do track racing here have KTM 300's and one guy living in
the same building as me had a bad run of luck before settling on that. He
ordered an aprillia, it wouldn't run on the local crap unleaded fuel and was
problematic, I think he had that for 6 weeks or so. Then there was a Honda
which he had for a couple of months, I think he sent it back under warranty.
Enter the KTM. and he seemed happy with it. I have another mate that seems
happy with his KTM and he uses it for trail riding in the mountains. I'm not
sure how it would go on the highway.
Looking on the net I have noticed the dry-400E seems to be the reliable bike
of choice, is it a deserved title? Or can a KTM handle some around town and
occasional highway use.
The bike would have to run on nasty low octane unleaded (No premium here)
Low maintenance, as I don't want to have to spend 3 weeks repairing it after
1 weekend of fun.
I' a big lad, 6'1" and a tad over 100kg so needs to be well sprung and 40yo
Off-road capable (90% usage) and mountain climbing is a must.
Ideas and flames welcome.
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DR 650. My mate has one and it is very capable offroad and not too bad for
touring. Fairly light. Simple single cylinder motor and unchanged design for
10 years. Just stick a safari tank on it. Reliable as the day is long.
Fraser
I agree.
I am having a lot of fun with mine!
:-P
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: <<<<"Then there was a Honda which he had for a couple of months, I
: think he sent it back under warranty"
:
: They should build a SimsMetal branch right next door to hahahaonda
: plant and just dump them straight in as they come of the production
: line!!!
:
: "we dont need him to win"
:
: "we will destroy him"
:
: Averaged 2 wins since GOD/GOAT left the building, reap what you sow
: and rue your words hrc.
:
: hahaha = crap, now and forever
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: Game Over
That's the way
Sounds like the right choice, you want something old school in Lae PNG.
Boxer
"Peter" <som...@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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:> DR 650. My mate has one and it is very capable offroad and not too
The DR 650SM on e-Bay at the moment looks good, perhaps a little heavy but
good.
Off road wheels for the weekends.
I didn't know they did the 650 in a motard? You sure it isn't the 400? Got a
link?
Fraser
Don't these people ride their motorcycles?
6500km.... thats a little over 1000km a year!
:-P
KLE500 and spend $2k on Suspension and a full exhaust system. (the 2
real weak points)
pick them up for about $5k, 2yo with 10K on the clock (UK couriers are
getting 160K Km out of them)
they are a parallel twin, bullet-proof smooth as and with a little
work are very capable
Just bought the Misses one, and if that is as good as I think it will
be I will be looking into a written off one to build into a weapon
mh
"Marty H" <hyt...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Looking on the net I have noticed the drZ-400E seems to be the reliable
> bike
> of choice, is it a deserved title? Or can a KTM handle some around town
> and
> occasional highway use.
>
> The bike would have to run on nasty low octane unleaded (No premium here)
> Low maintenance, as I don't want to have to spend 3 weeks repairing it
> after
> 1 weekend of fun.
> I' a big lad, 6'1" and a tad over 100kg so needs to be well sprung and
> 40yo
> Off-road capable (90% usage) and mountain climbing is a must.
>
> Ideas and flames welcome.
>
> --
> Brad Leyden
> 6� 43.5816' S 146� 59.3097' E WGS84
> To mail spam is really hot but please reply to thread so all may benefit
> (or
> laugh at my mistakes)
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>
-KLE500 and spend $2k on Suspension and a full exhaust system. (the 2
-real weak points)
-
-pick them up for about $5k, 2yo with 10K on the clock (UK couriers are
-getting 160K Km out of them)
-
-they are a parallel twin, bullet-proof smooth as and with a little
-work are very capable
-
-Just bought the Misses one, and if that is as good as I think it will
-be I will be looking into a written off one to build into a weapon
-
-mh
The KLX 500 looks far too road like.
http://www.bikepics.com/kawasaki/kle500/ Doubt it could do the trails I am
thinking of. The KLX 450 is about the style I would be after.
the bike at the top of that page is not a KLE500, it is the KLE650, a
different monster, basically a road bike with ground clearance
a KLE500 is "basically" a KLR650 with a different engine.
but reading your post again,...go a DRz400
mh
you description is 100% on the strom...
which is totally what the OP doesnt need
mh
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"Lars Chance" <lars....@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I think it was the EFI that was troublesome for the guy downstairs on the
Honda, 2 came in to the country at the same time and both gave treat trouble
getting them going, one sorted it out I think the other sent it back.
Just on a strange note, both came with bugged batteries.
On another note I saw a couple going into Garoka this year on a Harley, what
a sight, doing about 10kmh on the horrendous road, they looked like Arabs
with towels around their heads and over their faces for the dust. This is
not the place for touring bikes. Bet they were cursing the one that
suggested the idea. There are 2 Harleys in town but I have never seen them
ridden, they're for show not for go. I've been here almost 6 years, have a
nice holiday house outside Kundiawa which has some wicked trails, the road
up from the town is 15km and is an easy 1 hour run and the first 7km is good
bitumen, the last 8 are 2nd gear low range.House is at 2000m altitude.
Actually when By Any Means comes out you can see some of the scenery and the
trails. The guy that ditches the Aprillia and the Honda should be in it as
well as he was in the group that went.
I'll try and dig up some pics.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Yeah. Way to heavy for serious dirty stuff. Great for off road on gravel
roads.
Fraser
Yeah, when I saw the OP, I entered the latitude and lontitude into
Google maps and thought "Oh shit, that's gunna be serious off road!"
Sounds like fun though.
> Yeah, when I saw the OP, I entered the latitude and lontitude into
> Google maps and thought "Oh shit, that's gunna be serious off road!"
>
Well bugger me; sort-of a fair way off the road from that very-large
roundabout.
I did not know you could do that!
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Elsie.
CIA on your trail?
>
On 27/11/09 8:08 PM, in article 4b0f971c$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au, "F Murtz"
<hag...@hotmail.com> wrote:
That is shocking!
I reckon that is more the person than the bike.
There was a guy about a decade ago who rode an R1 around the world
including through some really insane deserts and the like.
Mate of mine got married down at Port Arthur about 15 years ago. His
wife rode her horse to the top of Mt Arthur, he rode his 1100 Katana
to the top of the mountain. So what? you say. Well I was going up said
mountain in a 4WD and the driver, who knew the mountain well, almost
had us off the side as it was that wet, muddy and slippery. It took us
ages to crawl the 4WD up there but Micky rode a Katana with road tyres
up there in a penguin suit (his was just after I got video footage of
him doing 4th gear wheelstands outside the bride's parents' place at
160kph plus in his penguin suit with no helmet - I'm telling him fer
fucks sake don't drop it or she'll kill me, I was making their wedding
video). Anyway, amazing bike control this guy. He got banned from the
MRA Toy Run for a while for doing the last 4km entirely on the back
wheel.
So to go back to the topic, it's the person riding it, more than the
bike. Look at what the WWII riders put their bkes through.
> So to go back to the topic, it's the person riding it, more than the
> bike. Look at what the WWII riders put their bkes through.
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Work to ride, Ride to Work...
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So why get amped up over it?
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Elsie.
(CIA eavesdopping puns are too hard)
I've heard about people customising Harleys, but this I have to see..
"...Dave made the trip on a 1972 Harley-Davidson� motorcycle with two
prosthetic legs."
Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
"Sp3" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Thanks for that link, I had posted on Friday about 2 people on a Harley, I
checked the dates on the link and that was them. I was returning from
getting married up in the village. They looked less than happy when I saw
them but what a story they have to tell. Just posted that link to my brother
that was following us on the trip down, he should get a kick out of it.
"Lars Chance" <lars....@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I tend to do a bit in the bush, I'll be at my holiday house for Christmas
6.054970S 144.904197E , not a great off road spot as EVERYTHING is vertical
but the road is good fun, the last 8km takes an hour in a landcruiser. Would
be ideal for a good bike, a pastor up there has a DT175 and it only crawls
up. Madang is fun for rides as it is flat with bush tracks everywhere and
the people in the area know me and so don't give me any grief. I have taken
the mini bike there and it was great fun in the jungle and crossing foot
bridges made of 3 pieces of bamboo. The mud can be interesting.
Resistance is futile. (Sorry about the delay, i wasn't ohm).
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Must be one of those people from my childhood who always "used to have one
of them, but the wheels fell off".
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>
>
>"Lars Chance" <lars....@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:WZIPm.57942$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>: Kevin Gleeson wrote:
>:
>: > Yeah, when I saw the OP, I entered the latitude and lontitude into
>: > Google maps and thought "Oh shit, that's gunna be serious off road!"
>: >
>: Well bugger me; sort-of a fair way off the road from that very-large
>: roundabout.
>: I did not know you could do that!
>: --
>: Elsie.
>
>I tend to do a bit in the bush, I'll be at my holiday house for Christmas
>6.054970S 144.904197E ,
Just went to Google Maps and couldn't get a street view. I dunno, I
thought technology was supposed to be up with this?
> So to go back to the topic, it's the person riding it, more than the
> bike. Look at what the WWII riders put their bkes through.
There is footage on youtube of some nutter doing around the world on an R1 with
knobblies on it.
Fraser
My mate Eddy Current would be impressed.
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Elsie.
I don't have capacitance for this discussion!
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TimC
"I have /usr/sbin/coffee mounted from /dev/mug right now, and you can't have
it. Oh no, I just tried to seek past end-of-beverage. *sigh*" -- Graham Reed
Need satellite but even that is blurry. Bit slack the haven't done street
view, after all it does get 2 vehicles a day up there.
>
>"Kevin Gleeson" <keving...@imagine-it.com.au> wrote in message
>news:r4d6h5tku8fdf1au3...@4ax.com...
>: On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:15:58 +1000, "Brad" <bradl...@spammail.com>
>: wrote:
>:
>: >
>: >
>: >
>: >"Lars Chance" <lars....@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>: >news:WZIPm.57942$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>: >: Kevin Gleeson wrote:
>: >:
>: >: > Yeah, when I saw the OP, I entered the latitude and lontitude into
>: >: > Google maps and thought "Oh shit, that's gunna be serious off road!"
>: >: >
>: >: Well bugger me; sort-of a fair way off the road from that very-large
>: >: roundabout.
>: >: I did not know you could do that!
>: >: --
>: >: Elsie.
>: >
>: >I tend to do a bit in the bush, I'll be at my holiday house for Christmas
>: >6.054970S 144.904197E ,
>:
>: Just went to Google Maps and couldn't get a street view. I dunno, I
>: thought technology was supposed to be up with this?
>
>Need satellite but even that is blurry. Bit slack the haven't done street
>view, after all it does get 2 vehicles a day up there.
Slack lot, aren't they?
Neither does my mate Mike O'Farad
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"Brad" <bradl...@spammail.com> wrote in message
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:I haven't posted here before but I have lurked for a while and everything
: seems much the same as aus.cars
: You have your noddy know it alls and like to bicker about minor points or
: order, I should fit in well.
:
: I am looking at buying a bike mid next year on a trip south and need
advise
: about a which one.
:
: I'm not a beginner rider in the strict sense of the term but it has been a
: long time since I have done any real regular riding and have never ridden
on
: the road much at all. 20 years ago I had an 88' DT175 which while not
: powerful was light, entertaining and reliable off-road. Only problem I
ever
: had with it was a clutch when the rear wheel got clogged with clay.
: Currently have a minibike which I only use for getting around at the show
: grounds each year where I am photographer (and clown). The amount of
: technology new bikes have is daunting.
:
: A little insight into the place here. There are no Bike shops at all, You
: can buy a Yamaha ag bike at local the local Toyota dealer as they sell
: Yamaha but mainly for the outboards. They did get in 2 X 450 Yamaha bikes
: for "By any Means" and sold them afterward at super high prices. Any parts
: would need to be shipped in (1 month) or small parts can be airfreighted
but
: at inflated prices. The bike I buy would have to be reliable and all
repairs
: and servicing done by myself. A breakdown is almost unthinkable as the
bike
: would never be seen again and getting back to town would be difficult.
:
: Other guys that do track racing here have KTM 300's and one guy living in
: the same building as me had a bad run of luck before settling on that. He
: ordered an aprillia, it wouldn't run on the local crap unleaded fuel and
was
: problematic, I think he had that for 6 weeks or so. Then there was a Honda
: which he had for a couple of months, I think he sent it back under
warranty.
: Enter the KTM. and he seemed happy with it. I have another mate that seems
: happy with his KTM and he uses it for trail riding in the mountains. I'm
not
: sure how it would go on the highway.
:
: Looking on the net I have noticed the dry-400E seems to be the reliable
bike
: of choice, is it a deserved title? Or can a KTM handle some around town
and
: occasional highway use.
:
: The bike would have to run on nasty low octane unleaded (No premium here)
: Low maintenance, as I don't want to have to spend 3 weeks repairing it
after
: 1 weekend of fun.
: I' a big lad, 6'1" and a tad over 100kg so needs to be well sprung and
40yo
: Off-road capable (90% usage) and mountain climbing is a must.
:
: Ideas and flames welcome.
:
:
DR 650 is what has been thrown in the ring so far, and for the Septics I'm
in PNG which you will not know well but it is about as remote as the south
pole (Parts wise) but hotter all the time, coverd in mountains and bandits.
: --
: >
: >
:
:
Snip a lot..
>DR 650 is what has been thrown in the ring so far, and for the Septics I'm
>in PNG which you will not know well but it is about as remote as the south
>pole (Parts wise) but hotter all the time, coverd in mountains and bandits.
So the Suzuki Bandits are popular up there? :)
Johno
Aussie beer mate?
<snip>
> DR 650 is what has been thrown in the ring so far, and for the Septics I'm
> in PNG which you will not know well but it is about as remote as the south
> pole (Parts wise) but hotter all the time, coverd in mountains and bandits.
Never bloody mind the bandits, don't they still have a few cannibals
about there?
regards,
CrazyCam
The yanks might think you're talking about Mexico, given that
description...
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> : >
> : >
> :
> :
Bill :)
Moike
> DR 650 is what has been thrown in the ring so far, and for the Septics I'm
> in PNG which you will not know well but it is about as remote as the south
> pole (Parts wise) but hotter all the time, coverd in mountains and bandits.
>
> : --
> : Brad Leyden
> : 6� 43.5816' S 146� 59.3097' E WGS84
> : To mail spam is really hot but please reply to thread so all may benefit
> (or
> : laugh at my mistakes)
> : >
> : >
> :
> :
>
>
I've done a couple of swings through PJV and OTML and would prefer an
armoured LandCruiser over a DR650 as a means of transport - thou art
indeed an adventure rider!
But as you say "you will not know well" and is yea verily covered in
mountains - the bandits I have not met personally courtesy of the
armoured LandCruiser with local driver, shotgun and their bush knives
XR650L is an excellent choice. Air cooled, quite reliable, has low
enough compression it runs on whatever dog-piss happens to be
available for fuel.
The DR650 has quite a good reputation as well.
If more power and a bit better suspension is desired, an XR650R is a
good mount.
A bit older, an XR600R is worth considering.
Don't overlook the DR400 lines, if a smaller (but only a little
lighter) bike is desirable.
You'll have to decide for yourself if water cooling is a benefit or a
hindrance, ditto for kick vs electric.
Dave
"CrazyCam" <Craz...@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
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Yep, as well as pirates, the bandits are known as Rascals. Highway men on
the roads doing stickups.
Driving the 3 blocks to work can be an adventure.
A few years back I wanted to loose some weight so purchased a mountain bike.
95% temp all day and 99.9% humidity made that interesting.
Finally gave it up because wherever I rode people point and yell "whiteman".
Not once or twice but every place I rode. Gets annoying.
Beautiful countryside, nasty people around the towns and highways.
I can ride in places I am known, in small villages where I am welcome and
will have no problems, hopefully.
Bloke was caught recently chopping up a bloke and eating him.
I've seen it mentioned here but you really need to get used to everyone
carrying a "Bush knife" which is a 3' machete. Men women and children all
carry the monstrous things.