SR500 Rally Nov 20-22
Nev..
SR500 Rally - Bethanga Vic.
Only 25 sleep to go. Who's going and who's piking ?
Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
Marty H
might be a goer..prolly Sat/Sun only
mh
G-S
>
> SR500 Rally - Bethanga Vic.
> Only 25 sleep to go. Who's going and who's piking ?
>
Going, will head up on the Friday some time.
I'll probably take the Norge not the sidecar this time.
G-S
Marts
> Only 25 sleep to go.
What if you're a shiftworker....
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Mad
have you ever missed a sr500 rally nev, and have you ever had a sr500!
as for shift workers, zero sleeps to go
Nev..
> Nev.. wrote...
>
>> Only 25 sleep to go.
>
> What if you're a shiftworker....
I'm not.
Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
Fraser Johnston
"Marts" <ma...@ymail.com> wrote in message
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> Nev.. wrote...
>
>> Only 25 sleep to go.
>
> What if you're a shiftworker....
They still have to sleep.
Fraser
G-S
Yes but it might be 24 or 26 sleeps (depending upon if they are half a
day behind or ahead).
G-S
Nev..
Why would a 'shift worker' be half a day behind or ahead? From my
experience, the answer would be somewhere between 25 and 45 depending on
your definition of what constitutes 'sleep', and that's long before we
start discussing what constitutes 'shift work'.
Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
smack
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G-S
Well I was thinking of factory shift workers, the ones that are local to
me since that's what I'm most familiar with.
They are on either permanent day shift or permanent evening shift or
permanent night shift.
If they are on day shift then then it would have been 25 sleeps assuming
they sleep starting in the evening and finishing in the morning.
If they are on evening shift then they sleep from night to middle of the
day and would have already slept one more sleep than a me hence 26.
If they are on night shift then they sleep during the day and would have
to ride to the rally on friday when they'd normally be sleeping and
they'd miss one sleep hence 24 sleeps.
If you're talking about rotating shift work then that's referred to as
'rotating shift work' to distinguish it from fixed shift work and in my
experience those poor buggers hardly sleep at all :)
G-S
Marty H
lets just say, what if the evening shiftworker is an insomniac? how
would that differ from a Day Shiftworker narcoleptic or even a Night
Shiftworker who who suffers from nocturnal enuresis?
mh
(narcoleptic)
Lars Chance
> lets just say, what if the evening shiftworker is an insomniac? how
> would that differ from a Day Shiftworker narcoleptic or even a Night
> Shiftworker who who suffers from nocturnal enuresis?
>
> mh
> (narcoleptic)
>
And does a "sleep" end when you get up and stumble to the dunny and a
new one start when you get back to bed?
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Elsie.
Hammo
On 30/10/09 8:20 PM, in article
8056f9db-02a6-4cc5...@e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com, "Marty H"
<hyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah, you'll need to define what aspects of narcolepsy, insomnia and what
impact the enuresis has on the person. Other wise it means as much as some
one saying they have "blood pressure problems".
Hammo (pedant)
G-S
I was referring to the majority of the shift workers, I'm sure there are
exceptions as you point out :)
G-S
G-S
Doesn't matter when looked at from an industrial 'mandated rest periods'
point of view (which is what I was doing).
G-S
Marty H
bloody ell.... its a tough audience tonight
mh
(at least its not harsh)
hippo
G-S
They wouldn't likely be employed (ok maybe vampires on night shift) but
since vampires and zombies aren't specifically listed in the categories
which it's against the law to discriminate against there are no issues
not employing them, and honestly... who'd choose to.
G-S
Marts
> If you're talking about rotating shift work then that's referred to as
> 'rotating shift work' to distinguish it from fixed shift work and in my
> experience those poor buggers hardly sleep at all :)
I s'pose it also depends on where they get their sleep....
As for rotating shiftwork, I would prefer to do it than to be stuck on say, 6
dayshifts in a row, or worse, 6 nights.
We work a "2x12" roster. 2 days on, 2 nights on then 5 days off repeating.
They're 12hr shifts and work out to around 38hrs a week.
Heaps better than the old system.
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Marts
> If you're talking about rotating shift work then that's referred to as
> 'rotating shift work' to distinguish it from fixed shift work and in my
> experience those poor buggers hardly sleep at all :)
aha. So for them, it could be any number of "sleeps" before this rally....
:-]
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Hammo
On 30/10/09 11:51 PM, in article
7a95261d-9be0-4729...@q40g2000prh.googlegroups.com, "Marty H"
<hyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
That'd be due to the lack of sleep.......
Narcolepsy + OSA = OI, YOU AREN'T BREATHING!!
G-S
>
> As for rotating shiftwork, I would prefer to do it than to be stuck on say, 6
> dayshifts in a row, or worse, 6 nights.
>
I used to love working permanent night shift, I still miss it years later.
It meant driving to work with no peak hour, being at work when it was
quiet so there were no annoying customers and few calls, anything
happening in the middle of the night was almost always important.
And it meant being at home during the day, which was useful.
G-S
G-S
> G-S wrote...
>
>> If you're talking about rotating shift work then that's referred to as
>> 'rotating shift work' to distinguish it from fixed shift work and in my
>> experience those poor buggers hardly sleep at all :)
>
> aha. So for them, it could be any number of "sleeps" before this rally....
>
> :-]
>
Sleep = allocated sleeping time [1]
G-S
[1] Doesn't mean they use it for that :)
Nev..
You've completely ignored unallocated sleeping time.
Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
Bill_h
You mean if we count nanny-naps it might be closer to 50 sleeps?
Bill :)
George W. Frost
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Or in his case Nevvy-naps
Nev..
G-S's view of sleep is so black and white, it's once per day, and
apparently counts even if you don't sleep. *boggle*
Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
Marty H
he runs a business in Victoria, there is legislation now for
everything, including sleep.. (once a day)
mh
(lover of the nanna nap)
G-S
That's during working hours for you isn't it Nev?
G-S
G-S
It comes from dealing with departments who have that view.
'Sleeping periods' is a defined term in various areas.
G-S
G-S
You think you are joking...
As part of fatigue management accreditation we are required to adhere to
legislation which actually DOES allocate and define sleep periods. [1]
G-S
[1] yes, strange world.
Marts
> I used to love working permanent night shift, I still miss it years later.
I've not worked it but having experienced 6 x 8hr night shifts I wouldn't have
it for the world.
atec 7 7
and hey are great even without a pvr
Nev..
Mostly, Although most times I've slept at work has been allocated sleep
breaks, like a nap every night at 4am... I would consider that to be a
planned sleep. Unallocated would be more likely to be sleeping on the
couch when I was actually intended to be watching TV. :)
Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
G-S
You need to get a PVR so you don't miss those couch TV shows!
G-S
Nev..
Yeah when I ssaid TV I was actually talking about stuff that was on TV
at some time in the past. Try not to watch live tv at all these days.
Pity the TiVo doesn't have a 30sec skip button like the other PVRs I've
owned, but it's other features more than make up for that.
Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
Marts
> Yeah when I ssaid TV I was actually talking about stuff that was on TV
> at some time in the past. Try not to watch live tv at all these days.
> Pity the TiVo doesn't have a 30sec skip button like the other PVRs I've
> owned, but it's other features more than make up for that.
Now that we're waay off topic, what does this Tivo do that other PVRs that
you've had don't?
I'm lashing out and getting the missus a full HD television for Xmas. A decent
PVR to go with it is also on the cards.
Currently I have an SD twin tuner Topfield on one TV and a Mystar pay TV PVR on
the aging SD plasma in the lounge.
So, whenever I record the GPs or World Supers (back on topic now), I can only do
it in SD mode.
Marts
> > [1] Doesn't mean they use it for that :)
>
> You've completely ignored unallocated sleeping time.
We call that "nightshift". Although the boss would probably call it something
else...
JL
You can record off the HD TV box onto a PVR in HD but you won't be
able to record off the Austar IQ2 box in HD unless you have a hack for
HDCP (dunno if they exist but I wouldn't be surprised if they did)
JL
Nev..
> Nev.. wrote...
>
>> Yeah when I ssaid TV I was actually talking about stuff that was on TV
>> at some time in the past. Try not to watch live tv at all these days.
>> Pity the TiVo doesn't have a 30sec skip button like the other PVRs I've
>> owned, but it's other features more than make up for that.
>
> Now that we're waay off topic, what does this Tivo do that other PVRs that
> you've had don't?
It has access to the electronic program guide. You can tell it what you
want to watch, and it will find it in the EPG and record it whenever it
is on. So you don't have to remember stuff like the Dutch TT is run on
a Saturday not a Sunday. Handy for when the your favourite show changes
timeslot without you knowing about it.
You can set up recordings on other criteria like actor or director or
keywords too.. so you set a keyword on "motorcycle" and it will record
anything that has motorcycle in the title or description. It'll also
record stuff that it thinks you might like, based on whever you normally
record. Also does its own disk space management too, on a FIFO basis,
so if ignore it, the disk won't fill up... and you can upload/download
programs to your computer and convert to mp4 etc if that's your thing.
I imagine if I had to sit on public transport for an hour each day
travelling to/from work that feature could come in quite handy.
I don't know what the current prices are, but when I bought mine, it was
the cheapest twin tuner HD PVR on the market.
Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
Nev..
> Nev.. wrote...
>
>>> [1] Doesn't mean they use it for that :)
>> You've completely ignored unallocated sleeping time.
>
> We call that "nightshift". Although the boss would probably call it something
> else...
Precisely :)
Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
bikerbetty
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As one of the new Underclass of People Who Rarely Watch TV but would
Occasionally Like to Watch Something, WTF should I do? My telly is a tiny
weeny little jobbie that is perfect for watching MotoGP races (the only
thing I ever watch) if I have my glasses on or my contact lenses in, and
don;t sitr too far away from the screen.
I am, to put it mildly, somewhat peeved that my minimalist viewing habits
(which are nonetheless extremely important to me!) will require an expensive
outlay for either a bloody diigital telly OR a set top box that does
something miraculous and conversional to the shitty little el-cheapo and
much-loved telly I currently have, just so I can watch a couple of hours of
motorcycle racing every couple of weeks for about half of the year.
And if, for some reason currently unknown to myself, it should become
imperative that I turn on the dreaded Box for half an hour in the future,
at some unforeseen time, (say, during an alien invasion) I will be one of
the multitude of televisual underclass types who may well perish because I
have not Upgraded to some technology worthy of a telly more spiffy than my
weeny once-a-fortnight-half-a-year-motoGP box...
I am afraid.....technology is scary.
Luddite betty
Peter Cremasco
> I am, to put it mildly, somewhat peeved that my minimalist viewing habits
> (which are nonetheless extremely important to me!) will require an expensive
> outlay for either a bloody diigital telly OR a set top box
$50. Reasonable set top box, or 2 good bottles of red. Could be a tough
decision. Open a bottle and think about it. :)
Zebee Johnstone
bikerbetty <bikerbettyatgmaildotcom> wrote:
>
> I am, to put it mildly, somewhat peeved that my minimalist viewing habits
> (which are nonetheless extremely important to me!) will require an expensive
> outlay for either a bloody diigital telly OR a set top box that does
You can get digital TVs that have input for your computer.
So you mostly use it for your usenet habit and watch TV on it when the
GP's on.
Else you get a digital TV doover that plugs into your PC.
Zebee
atec7 7
capable dvr with free software , add ram and run the dvr in a virtual
machine makes life easy
Nev..
Maybe... if you've got one of those old fashioned computers which don't
move.
Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
atec7 7
Nev..
Yeah, but I don't have a 4,000,000,000mm usb cable. You didn't quite
think that through did you?
Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
atec7 7
the usb cable needs only be long enough to connect the external
digital tuner to the computer
anything else your likely to beaujest is pure idiocy
Nev..
OK, you win, I'll explain it to you. Your 'computer = DVD recorder'
theory is based on the assumption that you have a computer which is left
at home and powered on 24x7. do they still even make those things?
Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
Zebee Johnstone
Nev.. <id...@mindless.com> wrote:
> OK, you win, I'll explain it to you. Your 'computer = DVD recorder'
> theory is based on the assumption that you have a computer which is left
> at home and powered on 24x7. do they still even make those things?
Sure. It's the Mac Mini that's connected to the TV, records radio
and TV and plays it back through said TV, and plays my ripped CDs
through the music system.
Usenet's the laptop's job.
Zebee
atec7 7
Most of us do
in fact I have several computers in various locations including the house
oh you are a dickhead nev
Marty H
the funniest thing about all of this is you are trying to get Betty to
use her PC as a PVR
quote Betty "I am afraid.....technology is scary"
I got rid of my PC as HTPC because it was way to much work.. and I
know stuff, I like to insert a DVD a press play.
BTW I won one of these.. it was delivered yesterday, exxy, but bloody
grouse
mh
Peter Cremasco
> OK, you win, I'll explain it to you. Your 'computer = DVD recorder'
> theory is based on the assumption that you have a computer which is left
> at home and powered on 24x7. do they still even make those things?
Yup. I've resisted going the laptop path, as I don't like the ergonomics
plus I like to be able to change componentry - and it's a lot harder
(and more expensive) to do it on a laptop.
For portability, I've got a little EEEPC which is handy enough for
remote net connectivity - on the rare occasion when I need or want it.
bikerbetty
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mh
See! Marty understands me! (Of course, I don't understand Marty - WTF is
that alphabet soup? PC as PVR, PC as HTPC???? OMG!!!)
betty
Moike
quite nicely. Of course you need an aerial, but the flying saucer
aerial n the van pulls in a nice enough signal.
You don't want to be watching with a crowd, though.
Moike
Marty H
do you really want to understand me....? :)
PVR.. Personal Video Recorder.. like a VCR but uses a Hard Drive
instead of a cassette, by putting a TV tuner card in your PC, you can
make act like a VCR or now a PVR
HTPC.. Home Theatre Personal Computer.. usually, but not always a
stand alone PC, the main use is to be plugged into a TV or projector
to take the place of a DVD player, VCR, TV tuner and Hifi system.
(still need amps though) It usually has a nice GUI (Graphical User
Interface) that appears on your TV and you use a remote to control it.
HTPC's can be alot of work, too much work for me for what I ask of
them so I just have lots of separate HiFi gear cos it looks cool and I
am still a fan of inserting round silver objects in slots and pressing
play
mh
Marty H
> BTW I won one of these.. it was delivered yesterday, exxy, but bloody
> grouse
>
> mh
I forgot the link to what I won
http://panasonic.com.au/products/details.cfm?objectID=5001
mh
Marty H
> SR500 Rally - Bethanga Vic.
> Only 25 sleep to go. Who's going and who's piking ?
>
> Nev..
> '08 DL1000K8
now Piking...
going riding and fishing somewhere near Lake Buffalo
mh
Hammo
On 20/11/09 10:04 AM, in article
cd04fda8-7822-4990...@m33g2000pri.googlegroups.com, "Marty H"
<hyt...@gmail.com> wrote:
Lots of 500s turning up round here!
Should be a great night for camping!
H
G-S
It was a great night for camping if you were a duck...
Not so good for humans, heavy rain and a Total Fire Ban which meant no
fires could be lit (despite the rain).
G-S
Hammo
On 21/11/09 5:25 PM, in article 03177509$0$1270$c3e...@news.astraweb.com,
"G-S" <ge...@castbus.com.au> wrote:
? Isn't that a great night for camping?
TFB do make it less of a great experience.
H
Nev..
Lots? There were a couple of 500s there. Most turned up in trailers or
utes.
> Should be a great night for camping!
It was once the the cool change arrived. Dunno what G-S was complaining
about. It didn't start raining there till well after everyone had gone
to bed, and it had stopped before I packed up to head home.
Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
Hammo
On 21/11/09 6:36 PM, in article
u5-dnWgENPcVBZrW...@westnet.com.au, "Nev.."
<id...@mindless.com> wrote:
> Hammo wrote:
>>
---snippo-
>>
>> Lots of 500s turning up round here!
>
> Lots? There were a couple of 500s there. Most turned up in trailers or
> utes.
Lots in/around Wangaratta when I there at around 1300, and yes, they were on
utes/trailers.
H
Zebee Johnstone
As someone who has ridden an SR500 from Adelaide to Melbourne... I can
see why they would be on trailers!
Zebee
Hammo
On 21/11/09 7:54 PM, in article slrnhgfala...@gmail.com, "Zebee
Johnstone" <zeb...@gmail.com> wrote:
Is this time to trot out where we have ridden where on what in how long [1]?
H
[1] no, not here http://tinyurl.com/ykustxx
Nev..
Probably won't have to wait too long [1] for that
Nev..
'08 DL1000K8
[1] don't wait here http://tinyurl.com/ylxtns6
G-S
My tent leaked, from about 4 in the morning until I got out of bed it
was raining, I packed up in the rain too.
OK... so I wussed out and went home after one night, at least I went ;-)
G-S