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fasgnadh

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Dec 5, 2004, 2:13:32 AM12/5/04
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Anti Eureka forces were embarassed when only ONE lone
heckler turned up to oppose Terry Hicks speaking at the
Dawn March.

Terry is the descendent of a Eureka rebel, and has a personal
interest in human rights.

Some maggots want to vilify people by attacking their
family, even if said family members have never had a fair
hearing.

But Terry is brave enough and strong enough to fight for the right,
A fair go, a TRIAL, something the men of Eureka understood;

"We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other
and fight to defend our rights and liberties."

Some people simply do not understand what RIGHTS and liberties
are, they have no respect for those who fought to win them,
and no idea of what it takews to keep them.


Henry

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Dec 5, 2004, 3:32:56 AM12/5/04
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"fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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Well said, those who attended Eureka celebrations who oppose what Terry
stands for have unfortunately missed the whole point.

What Terry is battling is in fact eroding exactly that which many lives were
lost for 150 years ago, even then not all miners supported the stand taken
by the miners, many preferred to stand back, turn the other cheek and not
battle for a better life and conditions, ironically many of those who were
too fearful to take part in the stockade and merely watched on were also
slaughtered... History has a habit of repeating so maybe there's something
to be learnt here that's relevant to our lives today.

Well done Terry, you do not stand alone.


ferdie

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Dec 5, 2004, 3:18:07 PM12/5/04
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Here Here
Defend our constitution
http://members.ozemail.com.au/~natinfo/1eureka.htm
http://www.australianflag.org.au/
http://www.norepublic.com.au/

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Ned Latham

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Dec 5, 2004, 6:38:11 PM12/5/04
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Peter Wicks (aka "Che Guava"), posting as "fasgnadh", wrote
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More of his odious posturing over Eureka. Nothing relevant to act-b.

----snip----

> "We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other
> and fight to defend our rights and liberties."

The rebellion at Eureka was bloodily put down by the British Army.
In 2000 the government of Australia gave themselves the legal power
to use the ADF in the same way on the mere sayso of the three little
pigs (PM, AG, MoD). And has Guano condemned that at any time since?

See for yourself. As the Che Guano FAQ says:

> * 2.6. Why do you call him an establishment flunky?
> *
> * He's one of those Wun Whirl Gummint lunatics who support
> * the Big Government faction of the establishment, which is
> * represented in Australian politics by the ALP. And, like
> * any good establishment flunky, he follows his masters'
> * ruthless, bloodyminded tyranny no matter what the cost
> * may be to others.
> *
> * In 2000, the ALP supported the "security" legislation
> * by which the ruling Party now have the power to use the
> * ADF against us on the mere sayso of the three little pigs
> * (PM, AG and MoD), with, without or even *against* any
> * expressed desire of the State(s) concerned.
> *
> * In 2001, the ALP supported the "anti-terrorist"
> * legislation by which the the AG now has the power
> * to make anyone he chooses disappear.
> *
> * The ALP supports those tyrannies so Guano supports
> * them: despite years of being challenged to do so,
> * he refuses to condemn them. Instead, he tries to evade
> * the issue with obfuscating personal attacks on those
> * who *do* condemn them.

> Some people simply do not understand what RIGHTS and liberties
> are, they have no respect for those who fought to win them,
> and no idea of what it takews to keep them.

And then there are the white-anting slugs of Guano's ilk, who
undermine them at every turn.

Piss off, you depraved, hypocritical, stalinist troll.

Ned
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Hyperoglyphe

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Dec 5, 2004, 10:03:02 PM12/5/04
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"Henry" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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Has Terry explained what his son was doing with an RPG? Surely not
working for the ADF?

D


Henry

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Dec 5, 2004, 11:29:24 PM12/5/04
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"Hyperoglyphe" <hypero...@schlockmail.com> wrote in message
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Speculation does not equate to guilt, everyone is innocent unless proven
guilty by a fair trial.

David Hicks has been incarcerated for over two years now without a trial,
this detention without trial is in violation of basic human rights, this
cannot be disputed.

The miners at Eureka took a stand against unfair conditions and an unfair
system just as Terry Hicks has.

Is David innocent ? there is only one way we will ever know, lay charges and
give him a fair trial, otherwise set the man free.


Siegfreed

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Dec 6, 2004, 1:40:59 AM12/6/04
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> Has Terry explained what his son was doing with an RPG? Surely not
> working for the ADF?

No, his son was working against the ADF, that is why he become the hero of
the lefties, and as a "good" terrorists, hoped we "all live under muslim law
(Sharia).

Maybe in a not to far future Eureka will be renamed Sharieka.


Siegfreed

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Dec 6, 2004, 1:54:02 AM12/6/04
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> Some people simply do not understand what RIGHTS and liberties
> are, they have no respect for those who fought to win them,
> and no idea of what it takews to keep them.

But we are lucky (not to say blessed) to have a compatriot like David Hicks,
who can finally explain to us what rights and liberties are, and of course,
we know well that he fought in Afghanistan for the rights of women to wear a
tent and to be treated like a chattel.

I think the Eureka organisers and profiteers should include few imans and
muftis to lead the march, and make it the laugh of the country.


fasgnadh

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Dec 6, 2004, 2:06:53 AM12/6/04
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ferdie wrote:

>
> "fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:41B2B51C...@yahoo.com.au...
>
>> "We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other
>> and fight to defend our rights and liberties."
>>
>>Some people simply do not understand what RIGHTS and liberties
>>are, they have no respect for those who fought to win them,
>>and no idea of what it takews to keep them.
>
>

> Here Here

I'm pleased you endorse my views, they are sensible
and mainstream..

But I do not endorse your racist neo-fascism
nor your Nationalist Front websites

> Defend our constitution
> http://

<snip>

Whenever you racists campaign on your own views
you are rejected by the Australian people at the
Ballot box... So stop trying to ride on the back
of my popular posts to peddle your White Supremacist
nonsense.


Go sit over there with Hanson and put your point hat on. B^D

ferdie

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Dec 6, 2004, 2:53:06 AM12/6/04
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That's a good one - Haven't you found out yet about the US and Australian
elections ?
The "fascist white Nazis" were re elected with increased majorities!

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Hyperoglyphe

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Dec 6, 2004, 3:20:01 AM12/6/04
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"Henry" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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So that was his pic with an RPG...


Flange

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Dec 6, 2004, 4:00:41 AM12/6/04
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"fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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> ferdie wrote:
>
>>
>> "fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:41B2B51C...@yahoo.com.au...
>>
>>> "We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other
>>> and fight to defend our rights and liberties."
>>>
>>>Some people simply do not understand what RIGHTS and liberties
>>>are, they have no respect for those who fought to win them,
>>>and no idea of what it takews to keep them.
>>
>> Here Here
>
> I'm pleased you endorse my views, they are sensible
> and mainstream..
>
> But I do not endorse your racist neo-fascism
> nor your Nationalist Front websites
>
> > Defend our constitution
> > http://
>
> <snip>
>
> Whenever you racists campaign on your own views
> you are rejected by the Australian people at the
> Ballot box... So stop trying to ride on the back
> of my popular posts

BwaaaaaaaaHaaaaaaaaa

What a self promoting wanker.
Listen fags, you just a poor old loser.
You sit there in your dirty old room in the dirty old cardigan and fester
with your hate of everything free.
You push the "rights" barrow like all good lefty losers and have no thought
of responsibilities which accompany rights.
You suck on your flagon of muscat and hope that one day you'll be recognised
as the giant brain you are....but all the time you see your world crumbling
around you.

Get out and smell the flowers.....but remember to keep your claws of those
young shielas.
It's a criminal offence these days.


Henry

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Dec 6, 2004, 4:30:10 AM12/6/04
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"Hyperoglyphe" <hypero...@schlockmail.com> wrote in message
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There is a pic flaunted by the media of David Hicks holding a waepon of some
sort, maybe an RPG launcher as he'd be dead if he only had the RPG... the
point being the photo was taken when David risked his life and volenteered
himself to assist the KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army) during the Kosovo Serbia
war where innocents were being slaughtered, the KLA was supported by the
United Nations, so the photo you refer to is when David founght under the
banner of the UN in an attempt to help those whome had otherwise been
ignored by the majority of the world....

During this war what did you do to assist ?


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fasgnadh

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Dec 6, 2004, 7:53:48 AM12/6/04
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ferdie wrote:
>
> "fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:41B4050D...@yahoo.com.au...
>
>>ferdie wrote:
>>
>>Whenever you racists campaign on your own views
>>you are rejected by the Australian people at the
>>Ballot box... So stop trying to ride on the back
>>of my popular posts to peddle your White Supremacist
>>nonsense.
>>
>>
>>Go sit over there with Hanson and put your point hat on. B^D
>>
>
> That's a good one - Haven't you found out yet about
> the US and Australian elections ?

Yes, the tory party responsible for RECORD IMMIGRATION, and
RECORD ASIAN IMMIGRATION, and one of the major parties which
support our multicultural society, got elected, and One Nation
lost it's last political representative.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAA!

Just to rub salt in your wounds, Howard has let in two
thirds of the Nauru refugees! B^D

You white racist neo-nazis have b

Persifor

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Dec 6, 2004, 8:32:34 AM12/6/04
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fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

> Anti Eureka forces were embarassed when only ONE lone
> heckler turned up to oppose Terry Hicks speaking at the
> Dawn March.
>
> Terry is the descendent of a Eureka rebel, and has a personal
> interest in human rights.
>
> Some maggots want to vilify people by attacking their
> family, even if said family members have never had a fair
> hearing.
>
> But Terry is brave enough and strong enough to fight for the right,
> A fair go, a TRIAL, something the men of Eureka understood;

You don't think he is working towards a book, do you?? Money is all.

Ned Latham

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Dec 6, 2004, 3:14:00 PM12/6/04
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"Dean T" wrote in <BKMsd.60574$K7.5...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>:

Another hypocritical accusation of racism. Nothing relevant to act-b.

Piss off, troll.

----snip----

Ned Latham

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Dec 6, 2004, 3:31:29 PM12/6/04
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Peter Wicks (aka "Che Guava"), posting as "fasgnadh", wrote
in <41B4050D...@yahoo.com.au>:

Nothing relevant to act-b.

----snip----

> Whenever you racists campaign on your own views

You have no moral ground for accusing anyone of racism, hypocrite.


As the Che Guano FAQ says:

> * 2.2. Why do you call him a hypocrite?
> *
> * He's a pathological liar who claims to be fair dinkum,
> * a cowardly bully who trumpets himself as a True Blue,
> * a stalinist establishment flunky who poses as a freedom
> * lover, a racist who postures as an anti-racist, ...

and:

> * 2.10. Why do you call him a racist?
> *
> * He attempts to derail discussions of ethnic hate crimes
> * (such as those Leb gang rapes and bashings, for example)
> * by throwing up rants about anglo/caucasian/white crime,
> * and has gone so far as to insinuate that paedophilism
> * is a strictly anglo perversion.

"Of course, recent cultural influences, especially American sexual
infantilism has seen a dramatic rise in anglo pedophiles, and even
mature women seek to look like little girls to satisfy the warped
Anglo apetites".
-- Guano, <am1aqt$1kj7$1...@arachne.labyrinth.net.au>.

----snip----

Piss off, you depraved, hypocritical, racist troll.

Ned Latham

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Dec 6, 2004, 3:32:34 PM12/6/04
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Peter Wicks (aka "Che Guava"), posting as "fasgnadh", wrote
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Nothing relevant to act-b.

----snip----

> You white racist neo-nazis have been totally repudiated.

You have no moral ground for accusing anyone of naziism or racism,


hypocrite. As the Che Guano FAQ says:

> * 2.2. Why do you call him a hypocrite?
> *
> * He's a pathological liar who claims to be fair dinkum,
> * a cowardly bully who trumpets himself as a True Blue,
> * a stalinist establishment flunky who poses as a freedom
> * lover, a racist who postures as an anti-racist, ...

and:

> * 2.10. Why do you call him a racist?
> *
> * He attempts to derail discussions of ethnic hate crimes
> * (such as those Leb gang rapes and bashings, for example)
> * by throwing up rants about anglo/caucasian/white crime,
> * and has gone so far as to insinuate that paedophilism
> * is a strictly anglo perversion.

"Of course, recent cultural influences, especially American sexual
infantilism has seen a dramatic rise in anglo pedophiles, and even
mature women seek to look like little girls to satisfy the warped
Anglo apetites".
-- Guano, <am1aqt$1kj7$1...@arachne.labyrinth.net.au>.

----snip----

Piss off, you depraved, hypocritical, stalinist, racist troll.

Ned Latham

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Dec 6, 2004, 3:42:19 PM12/6/04
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Peter Wicks (aka "Che Guava"), posting as "fasgnadh", wrote
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Nothing relevant to act-b.

----snip----

> You white racist neo-nazis have b

Run out of steam there, did you, lunatic?

Hyperoglyphe

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"Henry" <n...@spam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Hyperoglyphe" <hypero...@schlockmail.com> wrote in message
> news:41b41631$0$25763$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
[...]
> banner of the UN in an attempt to help those whom had otherwise been

> ignored by the majority of the world....
>
> During this war what did you do to assist ?

That is a nice spin on history. With respect to your pedantry, so he was
carrying an RPG "launcher" (I do not see how holding an unarmed grenade will
result in death) whilst fighting for Albanian separatists in a civil war.
The KLA were all sweetness and light eh! "Fought" under the banner of the
UN? The UN doesn't participate in civil wars. I thought it was NATO
involved in the action: the UN acted as UNPROFOR after NATO's victory. Are
you suggesting that Hicks served with UNPROFOR as an Australian? I think
you're wrong.

Hicks was then rounded up with the Taliban fighting against the US in
Afghanistan? 3 months after 11/9! You are not going to suggest he didn't
know he was fighting the US; Australian allies?

Absolutely correct that his guilt has not yet been determined. So what do
you suggest the US and Australia do? Release them all in the middle of
hostilities?

When you bleat about basic human rights, I suggest you pay attention to the
activities of the other side. (even today) It would be a travesty and a
breach of the human rights of their future victims to release those rounded
up in Afghansitan until they go to trial.

Dave


ferdie

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Dec 7, 2004, 1:41:28 AM12/7/04
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Little Johnny the fascist Howard now has a 60% approval rating!

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Dean T

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"Siegfreed" >

> But we are lucky (not to say blessed) to have a compatriot like David
Hicks,
> who can finally explain to us what rights and liberties are, and of
course,
> we know well that he fought in Afghanistan for the rights of women to wear
a
> tent and to be treated like a chattel.
>
> I think the Eureka organisers and profiteers should include few imans and
> muftis to lead the march, and make it the laugh of the country.
>
>

What an amazing tool Sig the Pig can be. Always ridiculing things that
aussies hold sacred.


ferdie

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Dec 7, 2004, 3:15:50 AM12/7/04
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The looney left idiots certainly destroyed any credibility it may have had

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fasgnadh

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Dec 7, 2004, 3:56:30 AM12/7/04
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Siegfreed wrote:
>>Some people simply do not understand what RIGHTS and liberties
>>are, they have no respect for those who fought to win them,
>>and no idea of what it takews to keep them.
>
>
> But we are lucky (not to say blessed) to have a compatriot like David Hicks,

WTF are you babbling about? You don't have a compatriot, let alone
one called David Hicks, whose father, a descendent of a Eureka rebel,
understands more about rights than a jumped-up nazi shitpig such as you
ever will. For example, you don't seem to even understand basic concepts
like 'innocent until proven guilty' and 'fair trial'.

So fuck off till you get a clue, Nazi boy


> who can finally explain to us what rights and liberties are,

you certainly need help understanding even the basics. but
a bloke held incommunicado in a gulag where inmates are tortured,
without trial, without even charges, for years, wont be able to tell
a soft, spoilt, selfish idiot like you anything.

Gregory Shearman

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Dec 6, 2004, 4:34:33 PM12/6/04
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On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 17:54:02 +1100, Siegfreed wrote:

>> Some people simply do not understand what RIGHTS and liberties are, they
>> have no respect for those who fought to win them, and no idea of what it
>> takews to keep them.
>
> But we are lucky (not to say blessed) to have a compatriot like David
> Hicks, who can finally explain to us what rights and liberties are, and of
> course, we know well that he fought in Afghanistan for the rights of women
> to wear a tent and to be treated like a chattel.

So, tell me... how has the plight of Afghani women improved since the US
invasion? I still see Afghani women in tents....

> I think the Eureka organisers and profiteers should include few imans and
> muftis to lead the march, and make it the laugh of the country.

Really? Did you know that David Hick's great-great grandfather was a miner
at the Eureka stockade?

His father had EVERY right to be there. That's why the lone rude heckler
(Howard shill) embarrassed himself.

--
Regards,
Gregory.
"Ding-a-Ding Dang, My Dang-a-Long Ling Long."


Gregory Shearman

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Dec 6, 2004, 5:15:24 PM12/6/04
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On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 17:40:59 +1100, Siegfreed wrote:

>> Has Terry explained what his son was doing with an RPG? Surely not
>> working for the ADF?
>
> No, his son was working against the ADF, that is why he become the hero of
> the lefties, and as a "good" terrorists, hoped we "all live under muslim
> law (Sharia).

Umm... actually, that picture was taken in Kosovo. He was working ON OUR
SIDE with the Kosovo Liberation army....

> Maybe in a not to far future Eureka will be renamed Sharieka.

Oh piss off... Terry Hick's great great grandfather was a miner at Eureka.

Ned Latham

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Dec 7, 2004, 8:27:40 PM12/7/04
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"Dean T" wrote in <uRctd.62486$K7.3...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>:

> "Siegfreed" wrote:
> >
> > I think the Eureka organisers and profiteers should include few imans and
> > muftis to lead the march, and make it the laugh of the country.
>
> What an amazing tool Sig the Pig can be. Always ridiculing things that
> aussies hold sacred.

Get treatment, fool. Your IDD is showing.

Ned
--
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Ned Latham

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Dec 7, 2004, 8:28:39 PM12/7/04
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"Dean T" wrote in <9Mdtd.62539$K7.2...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>:

Another cretinous abuse. Nothing relevant to act-b.

Piss off, troll.

----snip----

Ned

Ned Latham

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Dec 7, 2004, 8:32:32 PM12/7/04
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Peter Wicks (aka "Che Guava"), posting as "fasgnadh", wrote
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More of his abusive ranting and some hypocritical posturing over
innocent until proven guilty. Nothing relevant to act-b.

ferdie

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Dec 8, 2004, 1:55:28 AM12/8/04
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Got their first ever elected prez today greg

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Gregory Shearman

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On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:41:28 +1100, ferdie wrote:

> Little Johnny the fascist Howard now has a 60% approval rating!

Saddam had a 100% approval rating.

Gregory Shearman

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On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 08:24:14 +0800, Hyperoglyphe wrote:

> That is a nice spin on history. With respect to your pedantry, so he was
> carrying an RPG "launcher" (I do not see how holding an unarmed grenade
> will result in death) whilst fighting for Albanian separatists in a civil
> war. The KLA were all sweetness and light eh! "Fought" under the banner
> of the UN? The UN doesn't participate in civil wars. I thought it was
> NATO involved in the action: the UN acted as UNPROFOR after NATO's
> victory. Are you suggesting that Hicks served with UNPROFOR as an
> Australian? I think you're wrong.

He was fighting against the Serbs. So was NATO and the USA. Your problem?



> Hicks was then rounded up with the Taliban fighting against the US in
> Afghanistan? 3 months after 11/9! You are not going to suggest he didn't
> know he was fighting the US; Australian allies?

Why should he?

How many US or Australian troops were on the ground in Afghanistan? He was
fighting the Northern Alliance Terrorists... paid by the USA to inflict
chaos on Afghanistan.

> Absolutely correct that his guilt has not yet been determined. So what do
> you suggest the US and Australia do? Release them all in the middle of
> hostilities?

What "hostilities"?

The US won in Afghanistan.

The country has a democratically elected president and the Taliban are
finished.

I suggest you wake up.

Either charge them or send them home. Either bring them to trial or send
them home.

I take it you approve of torture?

> When you bleat about basic human rights, I suggest you pay attention to
> the activities of the other side. (even today) It would be a travesty
> and a breach of the human rights of their future victims to release those
> rounded up in Afghansitan until they go to trial.

What "future victims"?

We don't charge people with committing imaginary "future" crimes in a
civilised society, nor do we kidnap them and send them to another country
for torture, nor do we allow the results of torture to be used as evidence.

Looks like Osama has made some changes in the USA, eh? So much for Bush's
bleat that the terrorists won't win....

Ned Latham

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Dec 8, 2004, 9:42:32 PM12/8/04
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"Dean T" wrote in <7Oxtd.63729$K7.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>:

A waste of bandwidth. Nothing relevant to act-b.

Hyperoglyphe

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"Gregory Shearman" <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 08:24:14 +0800, Hyperoglyphe wrote:
>
>> That is a nice spin on history. With respect to your pedantry, so he
>> was
>> carrying an RPG "launcher" (I do not see how holding an unarmed grenade
>> will result in death) whilst fighting for Albanian separatists in a civil
>> war. The KLA were all sweetness and light eh! "Fought" under the banner
>> of the UN? The UN doesn't participate in civil wars. I thought it was
>> NATO involved in the action: the UN acted as UNPROFOR after NATO's
>> victory. Are you suggesting that Hicks served with UNPROFOR as an
>> Australian? I think you're wrong.
>
> He was fighting against the Serbs. So was NATO and the USA. Your problem?

Not my problem. I was correcting the OP. You know, in that bit you
snipped.

Even you won't say he was fighting for the UN. Or the Yanks, or NATO. Some
claim he was killing with a pack of opportunist jackals.

>
>> Hicks was then rounded up with the Taliban fighting against the US in
>> Afghanistan? 3 months after 11/9! You are not going to suggest he
>> didn't
>> know he was fighting the US; Australian allies?
>
> Why should he?

Unless he was terminally stupid, maybe a couple of months of pounding from
B52, B1, C130 gunships and US fighter bombers, may have been a slight hint
that he was up against more than a couple of North Afghan towel heads
carrying blunderbusses.

>
> How many US or Australian troops were on the ground in Afghanistan? He was
> fighting the Northern Alliance Terrorists... paid by the USA to inflict
> chaos on Afghanistan.

Another stupid twist on history. The reality- a bit of strategic brilliance
on the part of the Yanks. On memory, about two hundred CIA and special
forces operatives "on the ground" working with Northern Alliance forces to
identify the locality of the murderous Taliban terrorists, then use GPS to
bring down a firestorm on them. Very effective. Look who won.

And you claim Hicks didn't know he was fighting the US...


>
>> Absolutely correct that his guilt has not yet been determined. So what do
>> you suggest the US and Australia do? Release them all in the middle of
>> hostilities?
>
> What "hostilities"?
>
> The US won in Afghanistan.

What, the US Hicks didn't know he was fighting. The hostilities are
continuing, even on the day of my post the US are still at war.

>
> The country has a democratically elected president and the Taliban are
> finished.
>
> I suggest you wake up.

So you are suggesting Hicks is an Afghan now. Wake up!

>
> Either charge them or send them home. Either bring them to trial or send
> them home.
>
> I take it you approve of torture?

Only between consenting adults. Isn't it good the Northern Alliance are not
murderous cutthroats like their opponents. No Osama prison camps, are
there.


>
>> When you bleat about basic human rights, I suggest you pay attention to
>> the activities of the other side. (even today) It would be a travesty
>> and a breach of the human rights of their future victims to release those
>> rounded up in Afghansitan until they go to trial.
>
> What "future victims"?

The future victims they will add to their tally of past victims. Those are
the crimes for which they should be tried.


>
> We don't charge people with committing imaginary "future" crimes in a
> civilised society, nor do we kidnap them and send them to another country
> for torture, nor do we allow the results of torture to be used as
> evidence.

No, we try them for the crimes they have committed. How about murdering or
trying to murder people, with RPG's perhaps. Maybe the best time to try
them is when hostilities are over. Keep them locked up until then.

>
> Looks like Osama has made some changes in the USA, eh? So much for Bush's
> bleat that the terrorists won't win....

Scum randomly murdering people will take their correct place in history.
That particular piece of scum will have his, and Hicks will be a forgotten
tool.

Dave


ferdie

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Shit you're an idiot

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Sunny

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"Gregory Shearman" <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:41:28 +1100, ferdie wrote:
>
>> Little Johnny the fascist Howard now has a 60% approval rating!
>
> Saddam had a 100% approval rating.

True, and the results from ALL the far flung booths, were gathered/counted
in under 6 hours.
(makes one wonder why our election results take so long to count)
Living up to your sig, ding-a-ling ?


Gregory Shearman

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...and women are still going around in tents.

Tell me, did women get the vote?

ferdie

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sure did and for the first time too

"Gregory Shearman" <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote in message

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Ned Latham

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"ferdie" wrote in <i_Qtd.62$Al6....@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>:

Nothing relevant to act-b.

Ned Latham

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"Sunny" wrote in <7eStd.65338$K7.3...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>:

Gregory Shearman

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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 06:26:11 +0000, Sunny wrote:

>
> "Gregory Shearman" <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.12.07....@netscape.net...
>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:41:28 +1100, ferdie wrote:
>>
>>> Little Johnny the fascist Howard now has a 60% approval rating!
>>
>> Saddam had a 100% approval rating.
>
> True, and the results from ALL the far flung booths, were gathered/counted
> in under 6 hours.

Our election results were known within this time. What's your point.

> (makes one wonder why our election results take so long to count)

Because we have:

a) a preferential voting system.

b) a senate where votes are pooled State by State... (unrepresentative
swill - as Keating called the Senate).

> Living up to your sig, ding-a-ling ?

I love Ministry and Gibby Haynes from the Butthole Surfers. Do you like
the band?

BTW, there's no "ding-a-ling" in my sig. Perhaps you need your eyes
checked. Typical of the right-wingers... ad hominem when they don't have
an argument.

Gregory Shearman

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On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 16:01:44 +1100, ferdie wrote:

[top-posting idiocy removed]

> "Gregory Shearman" <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.12.07....@netscape.net...
>> On Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:41:28 +1100, ferdie wrote:
>>
>>> Little Johnny the fascist Howard now has a 60% approval rating!
>>
>> Saddam had a 100% approval rating.
>>
> Shit you're an idiot

Translation:

"I have no answer so I'll just abuse him and hope no one notices my lack
of creativity, literacy and intelligence."

Next time try not wasting bandwidth and actually address the argument.

Saddam had a 100% approval rating. It didn't mean that he was good for
Iraq.

Same goes for Howard. The media are in Howard's pocket. They print
whatever Howard tells them to print, even his lies.

No wonder this country is in such a mess.

Sunny

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"Gregory Shearman" <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 06:26:11 +0000, Sunny wrote:
>>> Saddam had a 100% approval rating.
>>
>> True, and the results from ALL the far flung booths, were
>> gathered/counted
>> in under 6 hours.
>
> Our election results were known within this time. What's your point.

Should have made my comment more obvious ?

<sarcasm on>
100% approval rate, according to Sadam Insane.
!00% votes counted, even from far flung tribal villages, goat herders and
sadam haters.
<sarcasm off>


Hyperoglyphe

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"Gregory Shearman" <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 16:01:44 +1100, ferdie wrote:
[...]

> Same goes for Howard. The media are in Howard's pocket. They print
> whatever Howard tells them to print, even his lies.
>
> No wonder this country is in such a mess.

You are quite a dumbfuck aren't you? by what historical standard do you
consider this country "in such a mess". Quite obviously you are assessing
the question from your own jaundiced point of view.

I guess the outlook from a stinking intellectual cesspit, surrounded by
whining progressivist myopics, may have something to do with it.

Dave


Ned Latham

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Dec 11, 2004, 4:47:50 PM12/11/04
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Gregory Shearman wrote in <pan.2004.12.09....@netscape.net>:

Partisan political tripe. Nothing relevant to act-b.

Piss off, troll.

----snip----

Gregory Shearman

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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 15:04:03 +1100, ferdie wrote:


> "Gregory Shearman" <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.12.08....@netscape.net...
>>
>>> Got their first ever elected prez today greg
>>
>> ...and women are still going around in tents.
>>
>> Tell me, did women get the vote?

> sure did and for the first time too

Did they all go out in their tents to vote?

ferdie

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Well they are ragheads!

"Gregory Shearman" <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote in message

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Gregory Shearman

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On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 23:20:49 +0000, Sunny wrote:

>
> "Gregory Shearman" <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.12.09....@netscape.net...
>> On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 06:26:11 +0000, Sunny wrote:
>>>> Saddam had a 100% approval rating.
>>>
>>> True, and the results from ALL the far flung booths, were
>>> gathered/counted
>>> in under 6 hours.
>>
>> Our election results were known within this time. What's your point.
>
> Should have made my comment more obvious?

> 100% approval rate, according to Sadam Insane. !00% votes counted, even


> from far flung tribal villages, goat herders and sadam haters.

Your comment is fine, your point is non-existent.

Believe in "approval ratings" if you like... crow about them if you like,
but the rest of us still know he's a lying shifty cunt, supported in his
prime ministership by the big media.

Gregory Shearman

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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 13:12:55 +0800, Hyperoglyphe wrote:

>
> "Gregory Shearman" <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote in message
> news:pan.2004.12.09....@netscape.net...
>> On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 16:01:44 +1100, ferdie wrote:
> [...]
>> Same goes for Howard. The media are in Howard's pocket. They print
>> whatever Howard tells them to print, even his lies.
>>
>> No wonder this country is in such a mess.
>
> You are quite a dumbfuck aren't you? by what historical standard do you
> consider this country "in such a mess".

The amount of debt this country is carrying is at unprecendented levels.

There's your "historical standard".

> Quite obviously you are assessing the question from your own jaundiced
> point of view.

Your opinions are irrelevant.

> I guess the outlook from a stinking intellectual cesspit, surrounded by
> whining progressivist myopics, may have something to do with it.

I guess you don't have an argument and so choose to attack the poster
instead.

Ned Latham

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"ferdie" wrote in <fZPud.437$z8.2...@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>:

Ned Latham

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Gregory Shearman wrote in <pan.2004.12.10....@netscape.net>:

Nothing relevant to act-b.

----snip----


fasgnadh

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Ned Latham wrote:

Nothing relevant to aus.history

Piss off, troll.

----snip----


fasgnadh

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Dec 13, 2004, 1:47:58 AM12/13/04
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Ned Latham wrote:

Nothing relevant to act-b.

piss off troll

Hyperoglyphe

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"Gregory Shearman" <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 13:12:55 +0800, Hyperoglyphe wrote:
>
>>
>> "Gregory Shearman" <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2004.12.09....@netscape.net...
>>> On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 16:01:44 +1100, ferdie wrote:
>> [...]
>>> Same goes for Howard. The media are in Howard's pocket. They print
>>> whatever Howard tells them to print, even his lies.
>>>
>>> No wonder this country is in such a mess.
>>
>> You are quite a dumbfuck aren't you? by what historical standard do you
>> consider this country "in such a mess".
>
> The amount of debt this country is carrying is at unprecendented levels.
>
> There's your "historical standard".

If you think debt is as much of a problem as, say, glaucoma. I see debt as a
trivial management issue.

>
>> Quite obviously you are assessing the question from your own jaundiced
>> point of view.
>
> Your opinions are irrelevant.

As is your jaundiced point of view.


>
>> I guess the outlook from a stinking intellectual cesspit, surrounded by
>> whining progressivist myopics, may have something to do with it.
>
> I guess you don't have an argument and so choose to attack the poster
> instead.

It was a nice turn of phrase, don't you think? I was not calling you a
whining progressivist myopic in the stinking intellectual cesspool.

No attack. My argument (you claim I don't have) is that this country is not
"in a mess".

Compared to much of our history, it is pretty good being an Aussie right
now.

Dave


Gregory Shearman

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So the USA didn't free the women from their tents.

In other words, the USA didn't free Afghani women.

Ned Latham

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Peter Wicks (aka "Che Guava"), posting as "fasgnadh", wrote
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A copycat post. Nothing relevant to act-b.

Piss off, troll.

----snip----

Ned

Ned Latham

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Gregory Shearman wrote in <pan.2004.12.11...@netscape.net>:
> "Sunny" wrote:
> > Gregory Shearman wrote:
> > > "Sunny" wrote:

> > > > Gregory Shearman wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Saddam had a 100% approval rating.
> > > >
> > > > True, and the results from ALL the far flung booths, were
> > > > gathered/counted
> > > > in under 6 hours.
> > >
> > > Our election results were known within this time. What's your point.
> >
> > Should have made my comment more obvious?
>
> > 100% approval rate, according to Sadam Insane. !00% votes counted, even
> > from far flung tribal villages, goat herders and sadam haters.
>
> Your comment is fine, your point is non-existent.

Wrong. His point is that approval ratings are meaningless.

The same, apparently, as yours. Seems both of you missed that.

----snip----

And this political shit is not relevant to act-b.

Piss off, troll.

Ned

Ned Latham

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Peter Wicks (aka "Che Guava"), posting as "fasgnadh", wrote
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A copycat post. Nothing relevant to act-b.

Ned Latham

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"Dean T" wrote in <dDbvd.70845$K7.5...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>:

A feeble sucup to the lunatic. Nothing relevant to act-b.

Ned Latham

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ferdie

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Thats multiculti - They even wear them in Oz

"Gregory Shearman" <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote in message

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Gregory Shearman

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On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 16:01:37 +0800, Hyperoglyphe wrote:

> Compared to much of our history, it is pretty good being an Aussie right
> now.

Yeah, just ask the beggars on the street, or try to get a doctor to make a
house call...

Ned Latham

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"ferdie" wrote in <BHqvd.23$6f4....@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>:

Tex

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"Gregory Shearman" <ZekeG...@netscape.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 16:01:37 +0800, Hyperoglyphe wrote:
>
> > Compared to much of our history, it is pretty good being an Aussie right
> > now.
>
> Yeah, just ask the beggars on the street, or try to get a doctor to make a
> house call...

We have a higher standard of living than ever.

And noone has to beg. There are food and shelter available for the poor.

And who cares about house calls?


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