Good on the police officer for speaking out - this is a disgraceful
result ...
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/man-jailed-for-shooting-sydney-policeman-20110523-1ezzy.html
A man who shot a policeman and terrorised hostages in a bungled Sydney
hotel robbery has been sentenced to at least 11 years in prison.
He's just another dumb cop who thinks that he should be the judge, jury and
executioner. The courts impose penalties for breaking the criminal law, not
the police, and certainly not the victim of the crime.
The crim will be banged up for at least 11 years. I think the police
officer may be overlooking the fact that he's still alive.
Sylvia.
>He's just another dumb cop who thinks that he should be the judge, jury and
>executioner. The courts impose penalties for breaking the criminal law, not
>the police, and certainly not the victim of the crime.
Says it all really ...calling someone dumb because he chose to put his
life at risk protecting members of society, only to learn the hard way
that the state has appointed judges like Deborah Sweeney who value
life so little, passing disgracefully weak sentences that put violent
animals like Tevi Koloamatangi back on the street in a few years.
This hero got it spot on ... Judge Sweeney, like many of her legal
industry counterparts, no doubt residing in some well-to-do north
shore safe-haven, is completely out of touch with the society she
should be helping to protect (but completely in touch with the morally
bankrupt legal industry).
Sadly, he is no longer in the job protecting us, while Judge Sweeney
will probably have many more years of putting violent animals back on
the street to destroy more innocent lives.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/man-jailed-for-shooting-sydney-policeman-20110523-1ezzy.html
> Says it all really ...calling someone dumb because he chose to put his
> life at risk protecting members of society,
He's not dumb for doing his job, he's dumb for publicly ranting about
a judgement and making it personal for the judge. That's contempt of
court and he could end up being sentenced himself. Perhaps he would
prefer if there was a mandatory jail term associated with such
contempt?
DM
The cop living, through being shot, was not the crims intention.
--
Petzl
Islam is of course synonymous with terrorism
He's not dumb for doing his job, he's dumb for publicly ranting about
a judgement and making it personal for the judge.
** Not dumb at all - he will be well protected by the police union.
That's contempt of court and he could end up being sentenced himself.
** A risk he is welcome and entirely prepared to take.
Cos he is not a gutless, slimy piece of retarded shit like YOU !!
.... Phil
> The crim will be banged up for at least 11 years.
** White collar criminals get that long for fraud.
If the police officer had died of his wound, the culprit would have got 25
years to life in jail.
That his aim was a few inches off ought to make no difference at all.
.... Phil
We generally punish people based on actual outcomes, not potential
outcomes.
Maybe every drunk driver should be put away for the manslaughter they
could have become guilty of, but that's not the approach currently adopted.
Sylvia.
>More lenient sentencing by our courts for violent crims ... proving
>yet again we need MANDATORY sentences to prevent out-of-touch judges
>from harming society with their catch-and-release sentencing.
Maybe we need to elect judges instead.
That way they would be accountable to the people electing them.
Shill #2
--
Since a politician never believes what he says, he is quite surprised to be
taken at his word.
Charles De Gaulle (1890 - 1970)
It might stop the repeat offenders?
Shill #2
--
What's the difference between a lawyer and a catfish? One is an ugly, scum
sucking bottom-feeder and the other is a fish.
That's a problem.
There was a case where two men raped and cut the throat of the woman
in the most horrific of circumstances yet she defied all the odds and
survived.
There clear intent was to kill her yet you stupidly assert that only
the actual outcome should be a consideration.
What rubbish!
A muderer gets 20 years. I fear if the arsehole knew he would get 25
years he might behave more desperatly and have killed everyone.
# Judges are just supposed to apply the law, not interpret it.
Interpretation is for the elected legislators in parliaments to do. They
write the law after discussions and argument in public. Judges seem to
think THEY are the law and apply it how they like. Parliamentarians will
have to put them in their place at some point and remind them who was
elected to make laws. It's a relatively new phenomenon.
They are nearly all queer lefty's dreaming of 'diversity' and 'gay rights'
and believe in putting you at risk rather than criminals and all of them
came out of the Whitlam era of 'free ejacashon'.
>>> The crim will be banged up for at least 11 years.
>>
>>
>> ** White collar criminals get that long for fraud.
>>
>> If the police officer had died of his wound, the culprit would have got
>> 25
>> years to life in jail.
>>
>> That his aim was a few inches off ought to make no difference at all.
>
> We generally punish people based on actual outcomes, not potential
> outcomes.
** 100% TOTALLY FALSE !!!!!!!!!!!!
Attempts at serious crimes are all punished similarly to the actual crime.
READ the fucking Crimes Act !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You god almighty, fucking stupid BITCH !!!
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ca190082/
and
http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ca190082/s344a.html
CRIMES ACT 1900 - SECT 344A
Attempts
344A Attempts
(1) Subject to this Act, any person who attempts to commit any offence for
which a penalty is provided under this Act shall be liable to that penalty.
(2) Where a person is convicted of an attempt to commit an offence and the
offence concerned is a serious indictable offence the person shall be deemed
to have been convicted of a serious indictable offence.
FOAD - you vile piece of evil autistic shit.
.... Phil
** The stinking half witted EVIL WITCH is 100% wrong about the law.
As per fucking USUAL !!!!!!!!
.... Phil
** 100% wrong.
A judge's job is to interpret how the law applies in specific cases.
> Interpretation is for the elected legislators in parliaments to do.
** Absolute drivel.
Wot a fucking tenth wit....
.... Phil
A muderer gets 20 years. I fear if the arsehole knew he would get 25
years he might behave more desperatly and have killed everyone.
** So you have no idea what the phrase:
" Justice must be seen to be done "
actually refers to ??
Got nothing to do with deterring the particular criminal concerned.
Think it through .....
.... Phil
** Anyone who shoots a police officer, while acting in the line of duty,
usually does not see out the day.
This particular scumbag was shot three times by police and somehow
survived.
.... Phil
Er, where did I say "only"?
Sylvia.
Well, yes, it might, and Parliament could change the law. But it hasn't yet.
Sylvia.
** That is the meaning of what you posted
you lying, fucking cow.
Looks like you have the same intellectual disability that bringything
does, then.
Sylvia.
** That is the meaning of what you posted
you lying, fucking WITCH
..... Phil
Insenate entities cannot have an intellectual disability.
How many drunk drivers jump into their vehicle with the intent of using
it as a potential weapon?
--
"If we cut emissions today, global temperatures are not likely to drop
for about a thousand years. "
-- Tim (it ain't a gonna rain no more) Flannery
- Australian Climate Commissar
** Using logic on Sylvia is like waving garlic at a zombie.
It only annoys the retarded bitch, never does any real good.
.... Phil
*Nobody* else carries _that_ level of intellectual disability, Sylvia.
# And therefore they always make the right decision for the public good. Is
that what happens. So if the law says you get ten years for rape, and a
judge then interprets the case as 'special' or 'specific'...he then can just
give a punishment of 2 years as he feels fit.
Sorry, but that's not his place. We elect people to make those laws for a
purpose and it's not for a judge to decide what is special. That sounds
more like the American system where judges are political appointees and open
to corruption to begin with.
It looks to me that our judges have become corrupted by bureaucratic
self-importance and think they know better than elected men.
OK, approximately then.
Sylvia.
** Leglislation normally only sets maximum penalties.
This is to ALLOW judges to do their job
> Sorry, but that's not his place.
** Fraid it is.
Wot an absolute tenth wit you are.
... Phil
# * WE *elect people to represent * us * ... judges do not represent us.
This is why we separated the Church from the State...because the Church was
once the judge and jury.
Our representatives do the legislation and that IS THE LAW. Judges are not
there to upset our laws. They are there to see it is carried out. They
are not doing their job. They have become queer weenie moralist towards
the wrong people ...like themselves. That is precisely the reason people
are getting shit off with them. The whole lot of them are queers and have
got worse since the 1970s Whitlam government. It says a lot about the
quality of people going into law and not really getting the history of how
British institutions evolved and understanding why we have this separation
of Church from State. Judges are now thinking they ARE the Church and
making moral judgments instead of applying the law.
** This fuckwit should be in a straight jacket.
The police union cannot protect a member against the Justice system.
If the Judge decides to press the matter then justice will take its
course.
> That's contempt of court and he could end up being sentenced himself.
>
> ** A risk he is welcome and entirely prepared to take.
Suppose there was a mandatory minimum prison term for contempt?
After all, mandatory minimum sentencing is what this is all about.
> Cos he is not a gutless, slimy piece of retarded shit like YOU !!
What do you know about me?
Clearly not a lot.
DM
Phil, Phil, settle down. Your fuse is too short.
Of course, none of this means that you'll get the same sentence for an attempt
as you would if you succeed. What's the longest sentence you know of for
attempted murder where the target was not injured*?
*just to eliminate injury as a component of the sentence.
# I think somehow you are familiar with straight-jackets. Your English use
makes you sound like an aboriginal.
Doing law at uni on a tax-payer funded 'victim' grant are you?
Before you hitch your wagon to that congenital idiot, Oy rool, be
aware of the following claims of his:
"Hitler moved into Moscow, kicking them out of their own seat of
government. Where were the mighty reds then? Running away!"
http://tinyurl.com/4z93u5j
Apparently the history books got it wrong. <derisory snort>
"No more so than in Villers Bretonneux, where the Aussies saved the
town from the Nazis".
http://tinyurl.com/3tw8pkl
Yep! According to Oily, Australians fought the Nazis in WW1! <chortle>
"Graham Loyd - unqualified hack journalist for leftwing rag".
http://groups.google.com/group/aus.politics/msg/e8f5427e8b47a43f
Graham Lloyd is the Environment editor for The Australian. LOL
Let's face it, that great steaming pillock Oily wouldn't know a sky
rocket
was up him unless someone lit the wick.
And lest you be tarred with the same brush as Usenet's resident idiot
I suggest that you distance yourself from him.
It's best to ignore any contribution that uneducated dumbarse makes to
the
debate.
Here's a full list of his clangers, all safely archived in Usenet's
Pantheon of Drooling Idiots.
1) the Germans won the battle of Moscow.
2) the Czech Republic is not a member of the EU
3) the earth is the centre of the Universe
4) the sun's core is made of rock.
5) the laws stoning women for adultery should be respected.
6) the Universe is infinite
7) 24.998377% is closer to 26% than it is to 25%
8) The Australian is a left wing rag
9) Australians fought the Nazis in WW1
10) Australia issues asylum seekers with social security numbers.
And of course he has also been unmasked as a plagiarist.
The police union cannot protect a member against the Justice system.
** Of course they can and will.
If the Judge decides to press the matter then justice will take its
course.
** And the police union will supply him with the best leagal assistance in
Australia and have a field day in the media too.
> That's contempt of court and he could end up being sentenced himself.
>
> ** A risk he is welcome and entirely prepared to take.
Suppose there was ....
** Suppose you go away and shut the fuck up.
> Cos he is not a gutless, slimy piece of retarded shit like YOU !!
What do you know about me?
** You are gutless, slimy piece of retarded shit.
.... Phil
** Given the similar circumstances and accused persons of similar criminal
history, the sentence will be the same.
.... Phil
Not relevant. I'm responding to a particular comment, not any other comment.
Sylvia.
** Fuck off and Die you stinking TROLL
How can the circumstances be similar? In one case the crime was
committed. In the other it wasn't. In the context of attempted murder,
most of those involved would regard that as an significant difference.
Sylvia.
** FOAD you vile autistic psychopath.
You can also find my brilliant expose in which I show that every one of
this poltroon's claims about me are hype, spin or just blatant lies. Not
only is he universally regarded as the most intellectually disabled gimp
ever to infect the Usenet, he has also (thanks to my continued brilliant
exposes) been shown to be a congenital liar in the true leftard sense
of the words. Oh, and he also claims the Apollo space program was faked
and that rocks are not formed inside stars. To name but a few.
[x] Bringyagrogalong
Typical Oy rool squirm.
Ask him what "hype, spin or just blatant lies" are involved in this
insane assertion of his:
"Hitler moved into Moscow, kicking them out of their own seat of
government. Where were the mighty reds then? Running away!"
http://tinyurl.com/4z93u5j
Apparently the history books got it wrong. <derisory snort>
I supplied the link which hangs him with his own words.
A link he hastily snipped.
Of course Oily always quickly snips his absurd pronouncements after
being pilloried and ridiculed by all and sundry.
To no avail of course because they're all safely housed in the Google
archives:
Clangers by Oily the Klutz:
1) the Germans won the battle of Moscow.
2) the Czech Republic is not a member of the EU
3) the earth is the centre of the Universe
4) the sun's core is made of rock.
5) the laws stoning women for adultery should be respected.
6) the Universe is infinite
7) 24.998377% is closer to 26% than it is to 25%
8) The Australian is a left wing rag
9) Australians fought the Nazis in WW1
10) Australia issues asylum seekers with social security numbers.
We can also add to that the fact that he's a plagiarist.
Proof positive that he's a card-carrying imbecile, I'm sure you agree.
Of course it's relevant.
> I'm responding to a particular comment, not any other comment.
And that particular comment was...
"*Nobody* else carries _that_ level of intellectual disability,
Sylvia".
So unless you're dyslectic it's clear that my comments were highly
relevant in proving that it is in fact Oy rool who is intellectually
disabled as these insane assertions of his clearly attest:
"Hitler moved into Moscow, kicking them out of their own seat of
government. Where were the mighty reds then? Running away!"
http://tinyurl.com/4z93u5j
Apparently the history books got it wrong. <derisory snort>
"No more so than in Villers Bretonneux, where the Aussies saved the
town from the Nazis".
http://tinyurl.com/3tw8pkl
Yep! According to Oily, Australians fought the Nazis in WW1!
<chortle>
"Graham Loyd - unqualified hack journalist for leftwing rag".
http://groups.google.com/group/aus.politics/msg/e8f5427e8b47a43f
Graham Lloyd is the Environment editor for The Australian. LOL
Here's a full list of his clangers, all safely archived in Usenet's
Pantheon of Drooling Idiots.
1) the Germans won the battle of Moscow.
2) the Czech Republic is not a member of the EU
3) the earth is the centre of the Universe
4) the sun's core is made of rock.
5) the laws stoning women for adultery should be respected.
6) the Universe is infinite
7) 24.998377% is closer to 26% than it is to 25%
8) The Australian is a left wing rag
9) Australians fought the Nazis in WW1
10) Australia issues asylum seekers with social security numbers.
And of course he has also been unmasked as a plagiarist.
Let's face it, that great steaming pillock Oily wouldn't know a sky
rocket
was up him unless someone lit the wick.
And as I warned you Sylvia, unless you wish to be tarred with the same
As you will find from a Google search, Sylvia, I have shot down every
one of bringnobrain's little list, exposing him for the lying leftard
poltroon we all have come to know and loath. I'll be happy to supply you
with links to my brilliant exposes.
Seems Sylvia has wisely taken my advice which Oily hastily snipped:
ergo: It's best to ignore any contribution that uneducated dumbarse
makes to the
debate.
Let's face it why would she be interested in Oily's bullshit links.
LOL
Especially in light of the 600 post thread in which he stupidly tried
to prove that Australians are issued with social security numbers.
ROTFL
The only thing he succeeded in proving was what a retard he is.
<chortle>
I have taken no advice, but simply acted in accordance with my whim,
which largely involves not getting overly involved in other people's
petty disputes.
Sylvia.
I'm sorry Sylvia but my post was directed at Oily, not you.
I understand why you would want to use it as an excuse to indulge in
social intercourse but this isn't a lonely hearts club.
And any wish you may harbour in dropping "social" in the above
sentence, will I'm afraid, have to remain a wish.
You may have better luck with Oily, bearing in mind that he'd tucked
in by his carers at this time of night.
Sounds like, as she plainly stated, she's not interested in taking
advice from an imbecile like yourself and wisely won't be drawn into
your petty disputes. My expose appears to have done the trick once
again. Kudos!
>On May 23, 7:53 pm, ralph <rstead...@geocities.com> wrote:
>
>> Says it all really ...calling someone dumb because he chose to put his
>> life at risk protecting members of society,
>
>He's not dumb for doing his job, he's dumb for publicly ranting about
>a judgement and making it personal for the judge. That's contempt of
>court and he could end up being sentenced himself. Perhaps he would
>prefer if there was a mandatory jail term associated with such
>contempt?
>
>DM
Asserting the judge's sentencing is out-of-touch with community
standards is not likely to lead to a contempt charge. Journalists
make this sort of claim all the time.
However, it would not surprise me in the least if the legal industry,
so dependent on repeat business, were to push for mandatory sentences
for contempt, but not for violent crimes such as rape, assault, and
murder.
Name one example of when a journalist has actually done this.
WTF?
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/opinion/fast-track-to-freedom/story-e6frfifo-1225704148021
Alan Howe ...
"Too often, criminals receive quite light sentences, appeal them, and
are further rewarded with even lighter sentences. The Sunday Herald
Sun reported earlier this month that our Court of Appeals had slashed
116 years of jail time off killers, rapists and drug dealers in the
past 16 months."
> corella wrote
> > No matter how much money goes into public
> > transport and infrastructure, Australian cities
> > are third world slums packed with white trash
> Australians aren't white and neither are you. You've accomplished nothing
> that has improved the white race, so stop pretending to being a member.
> You're just a poorly educated, underachieving right wing stooge. You're so
> low in the pecking order that all no whites are above you. You have no
> money.
> Kevin MacDonald: "Australians Are The Niggers Of The White Race" - Should Not
> Consider Themselves White or Christian
> MacDonald's thesis says that Australians are the decedents of British
> criminals, the low life's of British society, bottom of the barrel. That
> means they are descended from men who sodomized each other on a regular
> basis, and are also born criminals who cannot be trusted. Australians are
> weak, bigoted and stupid. They prefer to be hewers of wood and haulers of
> water than innovators or inventors, and always do as the USA says because
> they have no minds of their own. In Afghanistan, their soldiers are afraid
> to patrol after dark or engage in battle with the Muslims. Fear of Muslims
> runs deep in Australian society. Australians are famous for complaining and
> doing nothing about their plight. Outside of Australia, they are regarded as
> drunken, stupid buffoons.
> Read more about Prof. MacDonald's thesis here:
> http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=41977
Saving private Wilkie, By suing the Chief of Navy and Chief of
Defense
for $100million for the conspiracy to cause injury and unlawful
Racial
Discrimination in Breach of Contract
Dear Mr Andrew Wilkie MP,
Chief of Defense,
Chief of Navy,
Australian Prime Minister,
Australian Foreign Minister,
Australian Federal Police,
Independents in the Australian Federal Parliament,
Australian Human Rights Commission,
Mr Wilkie, I understand you have been under pressure over your
alleged
Nazi Salute hazing of cadets some 20 years ago.
I can tell you Sir, that it is a culture of Discrimination, race and
gender that has been, if not encouraged, at the very least has been
ignored for a long time.
I was no surprise to see if come ahead recently.
However, the coverup and the corruption goes all the way to the High
Court Australia. The honourable Michael Kirby has already leveled
Racial Discrimination at the High Court Australia.
What is the intent to the Australian Parliament to deal with
arbitrary
and malicious and incompetent decisions from the Australian
Judiciary and High Court Australia, with the intent to pervert the
rule of law and the Australian Democracy, with the intent to deprive
and cause injuries
and death.
After requesting that the Australian Human Rights Commission
terminate
complaints of unlawful racial discrimination, We have not recieved
any
correspondence from them.
What is the intention of the Australian Parliament dealing with the
Australian Human Rights Commission, perverting the Australian Human
Rights Act 1986?
Two further complaints are now filed against
1. Chief of Defense and Chief of Navy for unlawful racial
discrimination against LT Charles Pham, in failing to provide proper
equipment and breach of contract and breach of duty of care, and
defamation;
2. The Senate Committee for Constitutional and Legal Affairs:
Senators
Barnett and Crossin et al, for conspiracy to pervert parliamentary
privilege to racially discriminate in senate inquiries.
We ask that the Australian Human Rights Commission terminate these
two
complaints asap. They have consent from us to use any pathetic
reasons
that they have been using: Out of time, Lacking in Substance.
If we don't get the termination papers by 30th May, we will consider
them terminated and that the Australian Human Rights Commission has
conspired to pervert the Human Rights Act. Citizen Arrest will be
filed against them and they may be apprehended on Indigenous and
Aboriginal Lands at any time and any place.
We advise the Australian Parliament that the Australian Constitution
is self-activated and doesnt need order from the High Court
Australia.
We advise the Australian Parliament of the Rule of Law enforced by
Lehane J in a 2000 decision for summary dimissal.
The dishonorable Australian Judicary and High Court Australia has
been
abusing their position and trust, in particular the use of ex parte
submissions where the appellant has no right of reply.
If the Australian Judiciary cannot follow their own laws, we will
apply Indigenous and Aboriginal Laws and International laws and the
Discrimination Act (UK) 1992.
In addition, we believe that curbing the power of gambling and pokies
is a wonderful idea: No need to play Russian Roulette with people's
lives. Data have shown that low income gamblers are most addicted
seeking to better their lives in the incorrect manner.
Signed:
Charles PHAM
Thursday, April 28, 2011
for Indigenous & Origines Genocide Centre
Director: Robbie THORPE
Special Counsel: Charles PHAM
PO BOX 1007
Springvale
VIC 3171
.
/.
> corella wrote
Signed:
Charles PHAM
Thursday, April 28, 2011
. .