Aboriginals not true Australians
Blondie
that doesn't make them indigenous to this country, that makes them Asian.
And if they have been here for that long, they should be grateful to the
white man that came and settled here for the progress that white man has
made since he has been here, the Aboriginals had done nothing in the time
that they had been here.
Heretic
I'll bet that they didn't get visas, either.
Sunny
"Blondie" <bitemes...@backatya.com> wrote in message
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Europeans arrived and took
advantage of the tardiness of the indigenous
inhabitants in failing to register title with London.:-)
fasgnadh
> "Blondie" <bitemes...@backatya.com> wrote in message
> news:43dc699d$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>
>>If the Aboriginals came here from Asia between 40,000 and 60,000 years
>>ago, that doesn't make them indigenous to this country, that makes them
>>Asian.
So Asians are black. That fucks up another racist myth! B^D
>> And if they have been here for that long, they should be grateful
>> to the white man that came and settled here for the progress that white
>> man has made since he has been here,
Do you read what you post? Why should they be grateful
for the 'progress the white man has made' when from
settlement till 1967, they were banned from progressing
themselves? Not allowed to own land, or a bank account,
treated more like fauna than citizens.
Are you a racist shitpig, or just an ignorant fool?
>> the Aboriginals had done nothing in
>> the time that they had been here.
That's what the Asian multinationals said about you,
when they took your manufacturing industries.
What goes around comes around.
Now you have to import immigrants because your women
won't breed with you, import beef and oranges from
Head office in the country that owns you, and
vegetables from the ones who plan to take over the lease,
and you work for foreign shareholders! B^p
> Europeans arrived and took
> advantage of the tardiness of the indigenous
> inhabitants in failing to register title with London.:-)
Americans arrived and bought out every asset they
could, then shipped your jobs overseas so your
kids will be as poor as aboriginals without land,
except they can't hunt and fish to feed themselves,
or live in the bush to save themselves, and will be stuck
with the bill for salinity, erosion, polluted rivers
and lakes, going further into debt to the worlds banks.
Those indigenous groups who got title to their land and
lived on it rather than strip mined it, are looking
pretty sweet about now.
Thats why Howard wants to convert Native Title to
private freehold.. so Wall Street can own it too.
And all you can do is grin at some other group
who got screwed! B^D Shit that's funny!
--
"There is a fundamental distinction between
multicultural and Multiculturalism, which racists
constantly and deliberately confuse.
A society is multicultural if it has more than one
culture being practised within that society.
'Multicultural - A society which embraces a number
of minority cultures' - Macquarie Dictionary
Multiculturalism is two things, the -ISM indicates that it
is a set of beliefs or ideas about multiculture,
ie a recognition of multicultural REALITY, an acceptance of it,
a celebration of it.
But it is ALSO a set of government policies to
formalize that recognition, acceptance and celebration!
Thus the Howard government has a Department which documents
the positive economic social and foreign policy benefits from
having a successful, open, democratic multicultural society."
- fasgnadh
"When Fasnag talks multiculturalism -> people living in Australia have
come from different cultures, and live different lives that could be
categorised into groups if you chose to do so.
When I talk multiculturalism -> the formal policy at a governmental
level"
- Rev. Headjob, liar and thief
demonstrating the deliberate confusion.
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H Dickmann
> ago, that doesn't make them indigenous to this country, that makes them
> Asian.
Where dis the Asians come from?
> And if they have been here for that long, they should be grateful to the
> white man
The white man came originally from Africa. It just happened that once upon a
time the Gods made some of them blonde and dumber than dumb.
that came and settled here for the progress that white man has
> made since he has been here, the Aboriginals had done nothing in the time
> that they had been here.
Yes they did. They invented the one piece swimsuit and went topless.
>
>
David Moss
fasg...@yahoo.com.au writes...
> Do you read what you post? Why should they be grateful
> for the 'progress the white man has made' when from
> settlement till 1967, they were banned from progressing
> themselves? Not allowed to own land, or a bank account,
> treated more like fauna than citizens.
That so?
And here's me thinking the only thing they couldn't do was be counted in
the census if the State didn't let them vote.
--
DM
personal opinion only
dechucka
"Tripper" <decla...@conformidade.net> wrote in message
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> Island for processing...
actually as the First fleeters were also boat people without visas maybe we
should send all of ourselves to Christmas Island
fasgnadh
> "Blondie" <bitemes...@backatya.com> wrote in message
> news:43dc699d$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>
>>If the Aboriginals came here from Asia between 40,000 and 60,000 years
>>ago, that doesn't make them indigenous to this country, that makes them
>>Asian.
>
>
> Where dis the Asians come from?
>
Same place as the Europeans,
Africa.
Blondie is an African. B^)
Are you messin with his iggerance? B^D
>
>>And if they have been here for that long, they should be grateful to the
>>white man
>
>
> The white man came originally from Africa. It just happened that once upon a
> time the Gods made some of them blonde and dumber than dumb.
>
>
>
> that came and settled here for the progress that white man has
>
>>made since he has been here, the Aboriginals had done nothing in the time
>>that they had been here.
>
>
> Yes they did. They invented the one piece swimsuit and went topless.
Did a lot of fishin and bushwalking too.. something it's
harder and harder to do.
KANGAROOISTAN
abORIGINAL AUSTRALIANS ARE THE ORIGINAL AUSTRALIANS
SOME ab ORIGINAL AUSTRALIANS DID NOT GET FULL AND JUST TREATMENT FOR
SEVERAL HUNDRED YEARS COS THEY WERE BLACK
SOME abORIGINAL AUSTRALIANS ARE STILL NOT GETTING FULL AND FAIR
TREATMENT COS THEY ARE BLACK
SOME AUSTRALIANS CELEBRATE THE FIRST SETTLERS AS HEROS BUT WONT ACCEPT
THAT MANY VIOLENT DISPOSSESIONS OCCURED
BOTH WERE A LONG TIME AGO BUT THEY DISMISS THE CRIMES AS ANCIENT
HISTORY YET CLING TO THE SAME ANCIENT HISTORY THEY WANT TO CELEBRATE
Blondie
sort of look like us doesn't make you human you dirtbag
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R M O'Donnell
"David Moss" <q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote in message
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From what I have always understood, Aborigines had all the rights of other
Aus. citizens if they did not live on Aboriginal Reserves and claim the
welfare associated with that and thus of course avoided being wards of the
state. At least this appliied in Victoria to my knowledge.
My own half Aborigial great grandmother owned the family selection, the
whole title in her maiden name. This block was more than twice the usual
size of others in the region.
Where does fagsnads get his great knowledge all about Aborigines from ?
R M O'Donnell
fasgnadh
> "David Moss" <q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1e4725f83...@news.bigpond.com...
>
>>In article <43dc7bd0$0$10954$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>,
>>fasg...@yahoo.com.au writes...
>>
>>
>>>Do you read what you post? Why should they be grateful
>>>for the 'progress the white man has made' when from
>>>settlement till 1967, they were banned from progressing
>>>themselves? Not allowed to own land, or a bank account,
>>>treated more like fauna than citizens.
>>
>>That so?
You were not aware that aboriginals, even ones that
became wealthy and famous, were not allowed to own
or lease land, have bank accounts, vote?
That they were treated more like fauna than human beings?
>>And here's me thinking the only thing they couldn't do was be counted in
>>the census if the State didn't let them vote.
>>--
>>DM
>>personal opinion only
>
>
> From what I have always understood,
Well, there's the problem right there.
> Aborigines had all the rights of other Aus. citizens if they
> did not live on Aboriginal Reserves and claim the
> welfare associated with that and thus of course avoided being wards of the
> state. At least this appliied in Victoria to my knowledge.
>
> My own half Aborigial great grandmother owned the family selection, the
> whole title in her maiden name. This block was more than twice the usual
> size of others in the region.
>
> Where does fagsnads get his great knowledge all about Aborigines from ?
If you blokes IGNORED Howard whining about how badly history
is being taught, avoided private fundie christian schools
were creationism is taught ahead of evolution, or simply
READ some of the real history of this country, you would
know;
> R M O'Donnell
>
>
I can't believe how prevalent Howard's White Eyepatch view
of history is ... you blokes have the Whistlin' Dixie mentality;
"Look Away.. Look Away .. Look Away!"
Equal rights? B^p
Let me tell you about a bloke who WENT To JAIL
because he was accused of buying his mates a beer!
Albert Namatjira, arguably Australia's greatest
landscape painter, and the first man to paint
this country in it's TRUE colours, not the European
greens of immigrant painters who simply COULD NOT SEE
the place for looking!
Albert was famous, his fame won him citizenship
BEFORE most of his fellow aboriginals, but he still
wasn't allowed to lease a selection or build a house;
http://www.artistsfootsteps.com/html/Namatjira_nga_ghostgummtsonder.htm
"ALBERT NAMATJIRA
(1902 - 1959)
Albert Namatjira is one of Australia's great artists, and perhaps the
best known Aboriginal painter.
His western style landscapes - so different to traditional Aboriginal
art, made him famous.
Fame led to Albert and his wife becoming the first Aborigines to be
granted Australian citizenship.
It was a significant achievement, because at this time Aborigines had
few rights.
He wasn't born Albert.
His parents called him Elea.
But after moving to an Aboriginal mission and adopting Christianity,
they baptised and renamed their son.
Mission life was nothing like the life Albert's people lived in the
deserts of the Northern Territory.
That was a lifestyle he knew little about, until he turned thirteen.
At the age of thirteen Albert experienced an important Aboriginal ritual
- initiation.
As one of the Aranda tribe, he lived in the bush for six months and was
taught traditional laws and customs by tribal elders.
Work as a camel driver took Albert through the country he would later
paint, the dreamtime places of his Aranda people.
By this time he had married Ilkalita, a member of a neighbouring community.
The couple built a house near the mission, and Albert supported his
growing family by doing odd jobs.
These included making and selling small pieces of artwork.
In 1934 two Melbourne artists visited the mission to exhibit their
paintings.
Seeing them, Albert was inspired to paint seriously.
Two years later, he volunteered to show one of the painters, Rex
Batterbee, good places to paint.
In exchange, Rex taught Albert how to paint.
Albert was a fast learner.
He thought he had a natural gift, and he was right.
Albert's first exhibition, held in Melbourne in 1938, sold out.
Exhibitions in Adelaide and Sydney drew similar enthusiasm.
Even the Queen liked his work
Albert was a celebrity, but not always a comfortable one.
It was always a relief for him to leave the big smoke and return to his
desert home.
Success brought money - and Albert planned to use it to secure a future
for his family.
He wanted to lease a cattle station - but as an Aborigine he wasn't allowed.
Next he tried to build a house in Alice Springs.
Once again the law prevented him, just because he was Aboriginal.
It was a strange situation.
Here was a man, heralded as a top artist, treated like a celebrity and
yet not even allowed to own land.
"He was definitely the beginning of a recognition of Aboriginal people
by white Australia." Charles Perkins
Public outrage at Albert's predicament pushed the government to grant
him and his wife full citizenship in 1957.
This meant they could vote, enter a hotel and build a house anywhere
they chose.
It took ten years for the government to grant similar rights to the rest
of the Aboriginal population.
As a citizen Albert could now also buy alcohol.
In keeping with Aboriginal custom, Albert's friends expected him to
share any alcohol he bought.
But in doing this he broke white man's laws.
In 1958, police charged Albert with supplying alcohol to Aboriginal people .
He denied the charge, but the court didn't believe him.
After two months in prison, Albert emerged a free, but broken man.
He had lost his will to paint, and to live.
Albert Namatjira died in 1959.
He was just fifty-seven years old.
Albert's life and work have inspired other Aboriginal people to paint.
Among them have been his children and grand-children.
This great painter captured Australia's heart in artwork and was praised
around the world.
His life showed white Australians the injustice of racist laws, and
contributed to long overdue changes for his people."
http://www.abc.net.au/btn/australians/namat.htm
Blondie
were cash jobs and he didn't pay tax. Stop pushing there barrow, they are
bludgers who have got no more right to this land than me, you need to get
your head out of your arse fagsnads, haha fagsnads, you got a funny name
brudder
"fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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RodneyK
Face it Fas.
You opinions are politically inspired distorted and discredited views.
They are the views of a fanatic.
RodneyK
fasgnadh
> you said Albert supported his growing family by doing odd jobs.
> Bet
A term meaning you don't know, and are wishing it to be true..
> they were cash jobs and he didn't pay tax.
Kerry packer said a man who didn't minimise his tax
was a fool, and Howard, who introduced the GST tax
gouge on the rest of us to pay for Income tax cuts to
the RICH, the man who is charged with raising tax
revenue.. gave the Goanna a State Memorial! B^D
And you wan't to crucify a bloke who works for a living
to support his family?
Why are there so many SPIVS and Wankers in Howard's
Unites States of Australia branch office?
> Stop pushing there barrow,
They never had the barrow, there were no domestic animals suitable
for pulling wheeled carts (try it with a roo ;-) and a nomadic
lifestyle over our rugged land would have had no use for
wheeled vehicles.
> they are bludgers who have got no more right to this land
You don't seem to have grasped the point that BY RACIST LAW
they had LESS rights to this land than you, a blow-in
who would die if left in it.. another in the long line
including Burke and Wills. B^p
fasgnadh
I have.. I post facts, you can't rebut them
so you rant.
Rant away, lightweight; B^)
> You opinions are politically inspired distorted and discredited views.
> They are the views of a fanatic.
>
> RodneyK
Blondie
themselves, keep it up fags gonads, hahahahahahahahahahahaha, what a tossernews:43dcd097$0$30210$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
David Moss
fasg...@yahoo.com.au writes...
[cut]
> If you blokes IGNORED Howard whining about how badly history
> is being taught, avoided private fundie christian schools
> were creationism is taught ahead of evolution, or simply
> READ some of the real history of this country, you would
> know;
Do tell...
[cut]
> Let me tell you about a bloke who WENT To JAIL
> because he was accused of buying his mates a beer!
Hmm, I know a Queensland Cabinet Minister who should have done too.
Taking alcohol into designated dry areas or giving it to people with a
drinking problem is still frowned upon today.
> Albert Namatjira, arguably Australia's greatest
> landscape painter, and the first man to paint
> this country in it's TRUE colours, not the European
> greens of immigrant painters who simply COULD NOT SEE
> the place for looking!
One of my wife's rellies still has original paintings by that bloke on
the walls of her house in Alice Springs. He often used to stay over when
he was in town and lived with them for a couple of years at one stage.
If you really cared about the bloke you might realise his tribe never
mention the name of someone who has died.
But then you probably got your real history of the country out of a book
rather than out of the mouth of an Elder ;-)
infidel
> you said Albert supported his growing family by doing odd jobs. Bet they
> were cash jobs and he didn't pay tax. Stop pushing there barrow, they are
> bludgers who have got no more right to this land than me, you need to get
> your head out of your arse fagsnads, haha fagsnads, you got a funny name
> brudder
Some anagrams of *fasgnadh* are *fags hand* and *fag hands*
--
FA
I.
Zappy
And Jesus was not a jew.
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/jesusjew.htm
>
>
Zappy
"David Moss" <q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote in message
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In Queensland and W.A. until 1967 they had all the rights of lunatics and
children.
dechucka
"infidel" <in...@bigpong.con> wrote in message
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>
> "Blondie" <bitemes...@backatya.com> wrote in message
> news:43dccd3a$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>> you said Albert supported his growing family by doing odd jobs. Bet they
>> were cash jobs and he didn't pay tax. Stop pushing there barrow, they are
>> bludgers who have got no more right to this land than me, you need to get
>> your head out of your arse fagsnads, haha fagsnads, you got a funny name
>> brudder
>
> Some anagrams of *fasgnadh* are *fags hand* and *fag hands*
> --
> FA
> I.
so?
Neville Duguid
> R M O'Donnell wrote:
>
> > My own half Aborigial great grandmother owned the family selection, the
> > whole title in her maiden name. This block was more than twice the usual
> > size of others in the region.
> >
> > Where does fagsnads get his great knowledge all about Aborigines from ?
>
> If you blokes IGNORED Howard whining about how badly history
> is being taught, avoided private fundie christian schools
> were creationism is taught ahead of evolution, or simply
> READ some of the real history of this country, you would
> know;
fasgnadh is a lost cause. You have just told him something about your
own family relevant to the subject header. He immediately overrules your
family's history by repeating his own obviously faulty propaganda more
loudly than before. To my mind his approach also negates the usefulness
of usenet to ordinary people. What use is a so-called two-way channel
for sharing information if drones like him insist it only be used for
the infinite repetition of whatever was stamped into his read-only
textbooks forty years ago?
If the usenet community behaved with communal reciprocity, and some way
could be found of getting rid of overbearing ideologues like fasgnadh,
usenet could become a source - a vehicle for sharing and discovering the
real thoughts, memories and ideas of ordinary people - as opposed to
trying to shoe-horn us all into this own three categories of humans -
"racists", "anti-racists" and "irrelevant".
Perceptive readers will surely recognize what a perfect analogue those
categories provide for the "black", "white" and "mongrel" he uses to
project his own dichotamous way of thinking onto those he seeks to
browbeat into perpetual silence.
R M O'Donnell
"fasgnadh" <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message
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>
>> "David Moss" <q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.1e4725f83...@news.bigpond.com...
>>
>
> You were not aware that aboriginals, even ones that
> became wealthy and famous, were not allowed to own
> or lease land, have bank accounts, vote?
>
> That they were treated more like fauna than human beings?
>
>>>And here's me thinking the only thing they couldn't do was be counted in
>>>the census if the State didn't let them vote.
>>>--
>>>DM
>>>personal opinion only
>>
>>
>> From what I have always understood,
>
> Well, there's the problem right there.
Those Abos who were on the Commonwealth Cencus as aborigines, could not vote
in Federal elections until the 1967 referendum, AFAIK. Why wallow in the
happenings of more tham one generation ago, I think it is more productive to
worry about the here and now.
>
>> Aborigines had all the rights of other Aus. citizens if they did not
>> live on Aboriginal Reserves and claim the welfare associated with that
>> and thus of course avoided being wards of the state. At least this
>> appliied in Victoria to my knowledge.
>>
>> My own half Aboriginal great grandmother owned the family selection, the
>> whole title in her maiden name. This block was more than twice the usual
>> size of others in the region.
>>
>> Where does fagsnads get his great knowledge all about Aborigines from ?
>
> If you blokes IGNORED Howard whining about how badly history
> is being taught, avoided private fundie christian schools
> were creationism is taught ahead of evolution, or simply
> READ some of the real history of this country, you would
> know;
>
The vast majority of us appear to do exactly what you advocate and we all
seem to know more about Abos than you.
Perhaps you should follow your own advice more ?
R M O'Donnell
>
>
> I can't believe how prevalent Howard's White Eyepatch view
> of history is ...
It is probably a more useful view of history for helpng people, than the
Black Armband view, especially toward Aboriginals.
Not that I am a great fan of our prawnish Little Johnny.
KANGAROOISTAN
CITIZENSHIP PROVES YOU ARE AUSTRALIAN
GRANTED THOSE BORN HERE GET CITIZENSHIP AUTOMATICALLY , BUT
WELL OF COURSE JESUS WAS BORN AND DIED A JEW AND HIS FOLLOWERS IN
TIME CAME TO BE CHRISTIANS
LIKE FOLLOWERS OF JESUS CAME TO BE KNOWN
David Moss
rm...@bigpond.com writes...
> Those Abos who were on the Commonwealth Cencus as aborigines, could not vote
> in Federal elections until the 1967 referendum, AFAIK. Why wallow in the
> happenings of more tham one generation ago, I think it is more productive to
> worry about the here and now.
Until 1967 the Commonwealth government did not have the power to make
laws concerning Aboriginal people. As such they could not be included in
the Commonwealth Electoral Act, and subsequently could not vote in
federal elections.
The census thing was a way the Commonwealth used to try to force the
States to let Aborigines vote. The Aboriginal population could not be
counted in the census, and hence toward the number of federal
representatives from a State, unless the Aborigines could vote in State
elections.
The black arm banders are good at twisting facts however and nowadays
claim the Commonwealth considered Aborigines to be sub-human and
wouldn't count them in the census.
Sure bad things happened in the past, but good things happened too. Just
like in the present. We should keep both in mind.
fasgnadh
> In article <43dcc78f$0$19685$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>,
> fasg...@yahoo.com.au writes...
>
> [cut]
<restore text>
>>R M O'Donnell wrote:
>>>David Moss wrote:
>>>>fasgnadh wrote:
>>>>> Sunny wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Blondie" <bitemes...@backatya.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:43dc699d$1...@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If the Aboriginals came here from Asia between
>>>>>>> 40,000 and 60,000 years ago, that doesn't make
>>>>>>> them indigenous to this country, that
>>>>>>> makes them Asian.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So Asians are black. That fucks up another racist myth! B^D
>>>>>
>>>>>>> And if they have been here for that long,
>>>>>>> they should be grateful to the white man that
>>>>>>> came and settled here for the progress that
>>>>>>> white man has made since he has been here,
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you read what you post? Why should they be grateful
>>>>> for the 'progress the white man has made' when from
>>>>> settlement till 1967, they were banned from progressing
>>>>> themselves? Not allowed to own land, or a bank account,
>>>>> treated more like fauna than citizens.
>>>>
>>>> That so?
>>>> And here's me thinking the only thing they couldn't
>>>> do was be counted in the census if the
>>>> State didn't let them vote.
>>>>
>>>
>>> From what I have always understood, Aborigines had
>>> all the rights of other Aus. citizens
>>
>> "ALBERT NAMATJIRA
>>
>> (1902 - 1959)
>>
>> Albert Namatjira is one of Australia's great artists,
>> and perhaps the best known Aboriginal painter.
...>
>>
>> Fame led to Albert and his wife becoming the first
>> Aborigines to be granted Australian citizenship.
In othre words, he gained, FOR THE FIRST TIME,
citizenship rights denied to other aboriginals!
>> It was a significant achievement, because at this
>> time Aborigines had few rights.
>> Albert's first exhibition, held in Melbourne in 1938, sold out.
>>
>> Exhibitions in Adelaide and Sydney drew similar enthusiasm.
>>
>> Even the Queen liked his work
>>
>> Albert was a celebrity, but not always a comfortable one.
....
>> Success brought money - and Albert planned to
>> use it to secure a future for his family.
>> He wanted to lease a cattle station - but as an
>> Aborigine he wasn't allowed.
And yet today, descendents of settlers, whose laws gave THEM
a racist advantage, ask why aboriginals didn't prosper
while the whites did!? pffffft!
>>
>> Next he tried to build a house in Alice Springs.
>>
>> Once again the law prevented him, just because he was Aboriginal.
Second source:
"1951: On his return from walkabout, he informed those
in charge at the Hermannsburg Lutheran Mission that
he intended to build a new home in Alice Springs.
He was told that this was not allowed, and his
application to buy a building block was not granted.
The reason given, was the law that 'Aborigines were
prohibited from remaining within the town boundaries after dark'.
This rejection greatly upset Albert, and now feeling
somewhat dejected and morose, sought for a short while
the company of his tribesmen, living in a crude hut
built of bags and old iron at Morris Soak, a camp
at a waterhole several kilometres outside of Alice Springs.
http://www.artistsfootsteps.com/html/Namatjira_biography.htm
An outstanding Australian artist, a man whose work was
a constant sell out, and known to the Queen, refused
even to build a house in a racist town who prohibited
indigenous people being with the town boundaries,
broken and dejected, living in a humpy.
No wonder the Australian people, on becoming aware of the
manifest injustices being done, passed a referendum
OVERWHELMINGLY, giving the commonwealth powers to
legislate for basic rights for opressed blacks.
"1949: ..Albert was further upset when his application for a Northern
Territory grazing lease was rejected. An article appeared in the Sydney
Morning Herald, November 6, 1949, p. 3: 'Albert Namatjira: Aboriginal
artist plans to start cattle station."
No way..
"If you White, Allright,
if you Brown, stick aroun'
if you Black, GET BACK!"
"1950: In July, Albert decided to once again apply for his graziers
licence, this time with the Native Affairs Branch and Lands Department
in Darwin. ...However, his trip to Darwin was in vain for his
application for a graziers licence was again refused"
>>
>> It was a strange situation.
>>
>> Here was a man, heralded as a top artist,
>> treated like a celebrity and yet not even allowed to own land.
>>
>> "He was definitely the beginning of a recognition
>> of Aboriginal people by white Australia." Charles Perkins
>>
>> Public outrage at Albert's predicament pushed
>> the government to grant him and his wife full citizenship in 1957."
>>
1957, 169 years, OVER a CENTURY and a half, AFTER Settlement,
AND ONLY TWO ABORIGINALS HAD FULL CITIZENSHIP! 8^o
Tals about being FUCKED OVER! B^p
>> "This meant they could vote, enter a hotel and
>> build a house anywhere they chose.
>>
>> It took ten years for the government to grant
>> similar rights to the rest of the Aboriginal population."
...
And they might NEVER have got it, if Namatjira had not become
famous and feted, even coming to the attention of the Royal
Family, and allowing the Australian people to see what a
manifest injustice was being done to indigenous people!
>> http://www.abc.net.au/btn/australians/namat.htm
...
>
> If you really cared about the bloke you might realise his tribe never
> mention the name of someone who has died.
I'm not one of his tribe, save your crocodile tears.
....
Piss poor, Dave, you are becoming just another infidel,
or Duguid, they snipped the relevant events too.
Swampfox
Now there's that thing again.
Who or what is a black arm bander?
Is it a type of snake or poker machine or something?
R M O'Donnell
"Zappy" <zap...@ncable.net.au> wrote in message
news:43dd29c6$1...@news.comindico.com.au...
reserves and claimed Abo welfare. Tasmania was an exception because their
aborigines were classed as extinct - problem solved !
RM O'Donnell
fasgnadh
Most fat white tax avoiders get to vote, some even get a State Memorial
from the PM and government they own.
But blacks were so disadvantaged.. they got TAXED, even though
they had no vote, no citizenship rights, and no chance to
invest their money in property! 8^o
"During 1947, Albert received his first income tax assessment.
This he found confusing and incomprehensible, and was the
first of many anomalies regarding the rights of Aborigines
that Albert had to confront. As a full-blooded Aborigine,
Albert was a ward of the State and not a citizen of the
Commonwealth and therefore was not subject to the laws
that applied to white Australians. However, he was still
expected to pay income tax."
The Americans, God Bless em, started a REVOLUTION over
such an 'anomalie' beginning a bloody struggle to
overthrow the English tyrants who tried to tax them
without giving them any political rights under the
banner:
"NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION"
In Australia, a world reknowned artist with NONE
of the citizenship rights of white settlers, was
still expected to pay income tax! On Income which
he could not use to build a house in White Racist
Enclaves, or invest in farming property, or even
BUY A MATE A BEER! B^p
And even today, we have moral maggots who don
Howard's White Eyepatch so they don't have
to see the truth about our history.
R M O'Donnell
"Swampfox" <gro...@pochta.ru> wrote in message
news:43ddcafd$0$10626$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
history as nothing but something to mourn about.
Swampfox
"R M O'Donnell" <rm...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:HxkDf.230960$V7.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Probably a fair percentage of the Abos then.
fasgnadh
> fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>
>
>>R M O'Donnell wrote:
>>
>>
>>>My own half Aborigial great grandmother owned the family selection, the
>>>whole title in her maiden name. This block was more than twice the usual
>>>size of others in the region.
>>>
>>>Where does fagsnads get his great knowledge all about Aborigines from ?
>>
>>If you blokes IGNORED Howard whining about how badly history
>>is being taught, avoided private fundie christian schools
>>were creationism is taught ahead of evolution, or simply
>>READ some of the real history of this country, you would
>>know;
>
>
> fasgnadh is a lost cause. You have just told him something about your
> own family relevant to the subject header. He immediately overrules your
> family's history
fact's tend to do that. Get over it.
>>> From what I have always understood, Aborigines had
>>> all the rights of other Aus. citizens
Except for one small difference, Aborigines had
no citizenship rights, which is why history describes
Namatjira as the FIRST aboriginal to gain them, in 1959!
...OVER A CENTURY AND A HALF AFTER EUROPEAN CONQUEST.
>>
>> "ALBERT NAMATJIRA
>>
>> (1902 - 1959)
>>
>> Albert Namatjira is one of Australia's great artists,
>> and perhaps the best known Aboriginal painter.
...>
>>
>> Fame led to Albert and his wife becoming the first
>> Aborigines to be granted Australian citizenship.
In other words, he gained, FOR THE FIRST TIME,
citizenship rights denied to other aboriginals!
>> It was a significant achievement, because at this
>> time Aborigines had few rights.
>> Albert's first exhibition, held in Melbourne in 1938, sold out.
>>
>> Exhibitions in Adelaide and Sydney drew similar enthusiasm.
>>
>> Even the Queen liked his work
>>
>> Albert was a celebrity, but not always a comfortable one.
....
>> Success brought money - and Albert planned to
>> use it to secure a future for his family.
>> He wanted to lease a cattle station - but as an
>> Aborigine he wasn't allowed.
And yet today, descendents of settlers, whose laws gave THEM
a racist advantage, ask why aboriginals didn't prosper
while the whites did!? pffffft!
>>
>> Next he tried to build a house in Alice Springs.
>>
>> Once again the law prevented him, just because he was Aboriginal.
Second source:
http://www.artistsfootsteps.com/html/Namatjira_biography.htm
No way..
>>
>> It was a strange situation.
>>
>> Here was a man, heralded as a top artist,
>> treated like a celebrity and yet not even allowed to own land.
>>
>> "He was definitely the beginning of a recognition
>> of Aboriginal people by white Australia." Charles Perkins
>>
>> Public outrage at Albert's predicament pushed
>> the government to grant him and his wife full citizenship in 1957."
>>
1957, 169 years, OVER a CENTURY and a half, AFTER Settlement,
AND ONLY TWO ABORIGINALS HAD FULL CITIZENSHIP! 8^o
Tals about being FUCKED OVER! B^p
>> "This meant they could vote, enter a hotel and
>> build a house anywhere they chose.
>>
>> It took ten years for the government to grant
>> similar rights to the rest of the Aboriginal population."
...
And they might NEVER have got it, if Namatjira had not become
famous and feted, even coming to the attention of the Royal
Family, and allowing the Australian people to see what a
manifest injustice was being done to indigenous people!
Unknown
wrote:
>Neville Duguid wrote:
>
>> fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>R M O'Donnell wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>My own half Aborigial great grandmother owned the family selection, the
>>>>whole title in her maiden name. This block was more than twice the usual
>>>>size of others in the region.
>>>>
>>>>Where does fagsnads get his great knowledge all about Aborigines from ?
The back of cornflakes packets. [Don't get me wrong - I love my
cornflakes - but you know ...]
>>>If you blokes IGNORED Howard whining about how badly history
>>>is being taught, avoided private fundie christian schools
>>>were creationism is taught ahead of evolution, or simply
>>>READ some of the real history of this country, you would
>>>know;
>>
>>
>> fasgnadh is a lost cause. You have just told him something about your
>> own family relevant to the subject header. He immediately overrules your
>> family's history
Fasnag is ashamed of his family, ashamed of his country, ashamed of
himself.
dechucka
<Rev Head> wrote in message
news:2murt1p0gbjnop21j...@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:53:41 +1100, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>>Neville Duguid wrote:
>>
>>> fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>R M O'Donnell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>My own half Aborigial great grandmother owned the family selection, the
>>>>>whole title in her maiden name. This block was more than twice the
>>>>>usual
>>>>>size of others in the region.
>>>>>
>>>>>Where does fagsnads get his great knowledge all about Aborigines from ?
>
> The back of cornflakes packets. [Don't get me wrong - I love my
> cornflakes - but you know ...]
they are flaky like rev head
Unknown
Your nothing if present Mr Dechucka.
And that is a start - it's not much more than a start - but it is
start.
That put's you miles ahead of Fasnag and his sunderlism!
dechucka
<Rev Head> wrote in message
> On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 23:00:00 +1100, "dechucka"
> <dech...@vomithotmail.com.au> wrote:
>
>>
>><Rev Head> wrote in message
>>news:2murt1p0gbjnop21j...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 20:53:41 +1100, fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Neville Duguid wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>R M O'Donnell wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My own half Aborigial great grandmother owned the family selection,
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>whole title in her maiden name. This block was more than twice the
>>>>>>>usual
>>>>>>>size of others in the region.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Where does fagsnads get his great knowledge all about Aborigines from
>>>>>>>?
>>>
>>> The back of cornflakes packets. [Don't get me wrong - I love my
>>> cornflakes - but you know ...]
>>
>>they are flaky like rev head
>
> Your nothing if present Mr Dechucka.
who is anything if they are not present?
snip
Unknown
dechucka
>>who is anything if they are not present?
>>snip
>
> True
exactly
David Moss
fasg...@yahoo.com.au writes...
> > If you really cared about the bloke you might realise his tribe never
> > mention the name of someone who has died.
>
> I'm not one of his tribe, save your crocodile tears.
Clearly.
Congratulations Fasi, you just blew any credibility you ever imagined
you had on indigenous issues.
R M O'Donnell
>>>>whole title in her maiden name. This block was more than twice the usual
>>>>size of others in the region.
>>>>
>>>>Where does fagsnads get his great knowledge all about Aborigines from ?
> >>
>>>If you blokes IGNORED Howard whining about how badly history
>>>is being taught, avoided private fundie christian schools
>>>were creationism is taught ahead of evolution, or simply
>>>READ some of the real history of this country, you would
>>>know;
We seem to do all that sort of thing better than you, fuckwit. We all
obviously know more about Aus. history than the crazed fasgnadh, who makes
up his own.
>>
>> fasgnadh is a lost cause. You have just told him something about your
>> own family relevant to the subject header. He immediately overrules your
>> family's history
> >>> From what I have always understood, Aborigines had
> >>> all the rights of other Aus. citizens if not wards of the state.
>
> Except for one small difference, Aborigines had
> no citizenship rights, which is why history describes
> Namatjira as the FIRST aboriginal to gain them, in 1959!
> ...OVER A CENTURY AND A HALF AFTER EUROPEAN CONQUEST.
Oh, the fagnuts revision revision of history is rampamt again. Namatjira
may have been the first Abo to get his "dog tags' in the year of 1959 but
quite a few had done the same thing in preceeding years.
For about a century after European conquest they had no need to get them but
in the latter part of the 19th century, aboriginal protection laws were
brought in, making welfare dependant blackfellers wards of the state.
Why not study a bit of history instead of making up your own, you twatt.
R M O'Donnell
R M O'Donnell
<Rev Head> wrote in message
news:2murt1p0gbjnop21j...@4ax.com...
> wrote:
>
>>Neville Duguid wrote:
>>
>>> fasgnadh <fasg...@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>R M O'Donnell wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>whole title in her maiden name. This block was more than twice the
>>>>>usual
>>>>>size of others in the region.
>>>>>
>>>>>Where does fagsnads get his great knowledge all about Aborigines from ?
>
> The back of cornflakes packets. [Don't get me wrong - I love my
> cornflakes - but you know ...]
>
>>>>If you blokes IGNORED Howard whining about how badly history
>>>>is being taught, avoided private fundie christian schools
>>>>were creationism is taught ahead of evolution, or simply
>>>>READ some of the real history of this country, you would
>>>>know;
>>>
>>>
>>> fasgnadh is a lost cause. You have just told him something about your
>>> own family relevant to the subject header. He immediately overrules your
>>> family's history
>
> Fasnag is ashamed of his family, ashamed of his country, ashamed of
> himself.
He has very good reason to be ashamed of himself.
And of course his family background is that -
"He was jerked off against the shithouse wall and hatched by the sun.
Something he has NEVER DENIED"
Cheers,
RM O'Donnell
R M O'Donnell
David, I am shocked.
Did you ever really believe that our net-kook Fasi had any credibility ?
David Moss
rm...@bigpond.com writes...
He's actually OK when he engages his brain.
Hasn't done it much of late unfortunately.
Zappy
"KANGAROOISTAN" <theo...@kangarooistan.com.au> wrote in message
news:1138600549....@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Please turn off your caps lock.
>
fasgnadh
> In article <43ddc7df$0$10626$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>,
> fasg...@yahoo.com.au writes...
See if it sounds like this bloke had the 'same rights'
as citizens, WHEN HE WAS NOT COUNTED AS BEING ONE! B^p
>> >>> "ALBERT NAMAT#IRA
Name modofied so Dave Moss and Racist McDonnel don't have an
excuse for donning their White Eyepatch and pretending
they can't see the truth! B^p
>> >>
>> >>> (1902 - 1959)
>> >>
>> >>> Albert Namat#ira is one of Australia's great artists,
>> >>> and perhaps the best known Aboriginal painter.
>> ...>
>> >>
>> >>> Fame led to Albert and his wife becoming the first
>> >>> Aborigines to be granted Australian citizenship.
In othre words, he gained, FOR THE FIRST TIME,
citizenship rights denied to other aboriginals!
>> >>> It was a significant achievement, because at this
>> >>> time Aborigines had few rights.
>> >>> Albert's first exhibition, held in Melbourne in 1938, sold out.
>> >>
>> >>> Exhibitions in Adelaide and Sydney drew similar enthusiasm.
>> >>
>> >>> Even the Queen liked his work
>> >>
>> >>> Albert was a celebrity, but not always a comfortable one.
>> ....
>>
>> >>> Success brought money - and Albert planned to
>> >>> use it to secure a future for his family.
>> >>> He wanted to lease a cattle station - but as an
>> >>> Aborigine he wasn't allowed.
And yet today, descendents of settlers, whose laws gave THEM
a racist advantage, ask why aboriginals didn't prosper
while the whites did!? pffffft!
And then pretend the indigenous culture they trampled
prevents them from acknowledging the historical truth! B^p
Talk about a White Eyepatch of deliberate selective BLINDNESS!
B^p
>>
>> >>
>> >>> Next he tried to build a house in Alice Springs.
>> >>
>> >>> Once again the law prevented him, just because he was Aboriginal.
>>
>> Second source:
>>
>> "1951: On his return from walkabout, he informed those
>> in charge at the Hermannsburg Lutheran Mission that
>> he intended to build a new home in Alice Springs.
>> He was told that this was not allowed, and his
>> application to buy a building block was not granted.
>> The reason given, was the law that 'Aborigines were
>> prohibited from remaining within the town boundaries after dark'.
>>
>> This rejection greatly upset Albert, and now feeling
>> somewhat dejected and morose, sought for a short while
>> the company of his tribesmen, living in a crude hut
>> built of bags and old iron at Morris Soak, a camp
>> at a waterhole several kilometres outside of Alice Springs.
>>
>> http://www.artistsfootsteps.com/html/Namat#ira_biography.htm
Cultural Poseurs will have to replace the # with a letter of
their choice in order to verify the citation..
(And these are the wankers who introduced the term 'Political
Correctness'! BWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAA! )
>>
>> An outstanding Australian artist, a man whose work was
>> a constant sell out, and known to the Queen, refused
>> even to build a house in a racist town who prohibited
>> indigenous people being with the town boundaries,
>> broken and dejected, living in a humpy.
>>
>> No wonder the Australian people, on becoming aware of the
>> manifest injustices being done, passed a referendum
>> OVERWHELMINGLY, giving the commonwealth powers to
>> legislate for basic rights for opressed blacks.
>>
>>
>> "1949: ..Albert was further upset when his application for a Northern
>> Territory grazing lease was rejected. An article appeared in the Sydney
>> Morning Herald, November 6, 1949, p. 3: 'Albert Namat#ira: Aboriginal
>> artist plans to start cattle station."
>>
>> No way..
>>
>> "If you White, Allright,
>> if you Brown, stick aroun'
>> if you Black, GET BACK!"
>>
And for the deliberately ignorant, strapping on their
Official Howard Blinkers for Viewing History;
"Oh they wish they were in Dixie..
LOOK AWAY.. LOOK AWAY... LOOK AWAY!" B^p
>> "1950: In July, Albert decided to once again apply for his graziers
>> licence, this time with the Native Affairs Branch and Lands Department
>> in Darwin. ...However, his trip to Darwin was in vain for his
>> application for a graziers licence was again refused"
>>
>>
>>
>> >>
>> >>> It was a strange situation.
>> >>
>> >>> Here was a man, heralded as a top artist,
>> >>> treated like a celebrity and yet not even allowed to own land.
>> >>
>> >>> "He was definitely the beginning of a recognition
>> >>> of Aboriginal people by white Australia." Charles Perkins
>> >>
>> >>> Public outrage at Albert's predicament pushed
>> >>> the government to grant him and his wife full citizenship in 1957."
>> >>
1957, 169 years, OVER a CENTURY and a half, AFTER Settlement,
AND ONLY TWO ABORIGINALS HAD FULL CITIZENSHIP! 8^o
Talk about being FUCKED OVER! B^p
And now, hypocrites and frauds who cannot acknowledge
history with frankness and honesty, pretend their
evasion is based on following customs that are not their own
and do not bind any of us! B^p
>> >>> "This meant they could vote, enter a hotel and
>> >>> build a house anywhere they chose.
>> >>
>> >>> It took ten years for the government to grant
>> >>> similar rights to the rest of the Aboriginal population."
>> ...
>>
>> And they might NEVER have got it, if Namat#ira had not become
>> famous and feted, even coming to the attention of the Royal
>> Family, and allowing the Australian people to see what a
>> manifest injustice was being done to indigenous people!
>>
>>
>> >>> http://www.abc.net.au/btn/australians/namat.htm
>>
>> ...
>>
>>
>>> If you really cared about the bloke you might realise his tribe never
>>> mention the name of someone who has died.
Muslims don't drink, but that doesn't mean you can't,
you feeble hypocrite! B^p
Nor does it mean their cultural mores can be imposed on others,
nor does it mean we are disrespecting their culture if WE
do drink!
In a multicultural society, they are allowed their cultural
beliefs, neithr they, nor you, are entitled to try and
FORCE their views on the rest of us. Your perverse Political
Correctness is pure hypocrisy.
>>
>> I'm not one of his tribe, save your crocodile tears.
>>
>> ....
>>
>>
>> Piss poor, Dave, you are becoming just another infidel,
>> or Duguid, they snipped the relevant events too.
>
Suggesting that we can only show respect to a culture by
imitating it means Dave has either sworn off beer, or is
deliberately pissing on Muslim culture.. has sliced the end
of his penis, or is insulting Judaism.. and will place metal
skewers through his skin, or else offend the self mutilaiting
fakirs of India.
Dave is being a complete wanker.
> Clearly.
>
Mayan culture requires the sacrifice of a virgin to
ensure the sun comes up.. as you are so concerned
to mimic cultures slavishly.. where will you find one?
> Congratulations Fasi, you just blew any credibility you ever imagined
> you had on indigenous issues.
Sure Dave.. see you at your Bar Mitzvah and firewalking... B^p
Remember.. whatever you do, don't mention the Tomb
of the Unknown Non-Citizen who was forbidden to build
a house or lease a farm.. who couldn't VOTE,
and yet was TAXED! 8^o
You just keep that White Eyepatch on firmly, gubba!
RT
Forget the caps lock.
Look up the meaning of "agent provocateur".
Then forget the poster.
KANGAROOISTAN
LIKE HEAPS EASIER AND I WONDER WHY SOME FIND IT A PROBLEM.. I
KNOW THAT SOME SEE THIS AS SHOUTING
I MYSELF THINK THAT A QUICK MESSAGE IS ALL THAT I INTEND TO CONVEY
AND DONT SEE A REAL OPROBLEM.
GRANTED THE MAINSTREAM WORLD CHOOSES TO USE A FORMAL METHOD TO BE
PRECISE IN A MECHANICAL WAY
MY POSTS ARE A SHORT NOTE AND AS I FIND IT SO MUCH EASIER TO READ THE
SLIGHTLY LATRGER LETTERS I ASK WHY DO YOU COMPLAIN
DO YOU FIND IT HARDER TO READ ???
IS IT ANNOYING ???
ARE YOU A PERSON WHO PREFERS CONFORMITY ???
DOES IT REALLY MATTER IF I USE CAPS ?? WHY ???
David Moss
fasg...@yahoo.com.au writes...
[cut]
> See if it sounds like this bloke had the 'same rights'
> as citizens, WHEN HE WAS NOT COUNTED AS BEING ONE! B^p
>
> >> >>> "ALBERT NAMAT#IRA
>
> Name modofied so Dave Moss and Racist McDonnel don't have an
> excuse for donning their White Eyepatch and pretending
> they can't see the truth! B^p
Are you serious?
I don't think you could be more offensive if you tried Fasi.
[cut]
I suggest you go for a wander in central Australia and chat to a few
people before you venture an opinion on the way things are done out
there.
To give you a hint, there are still many places where *you* cannot own
or build a house, and where *you* cannot be after dark.
If you are caught trying to take alcohol to some places, even to share
with your friends and family, you get locked up.
I find it disgusting that you drag out the story of a great artist to
illustrate how badly he was treated by mainstream Australian culture,
then proceed to insult his culture by naming him in public.
If you didn't know about the custom I could understand the error. But
then you go on to make a trivial change in spelling and repeat the
insult. This time it has to be deliberate.
I suspect if we turned your black arm band inside out it might be red,
with a white circle and a black swastika.
fasgnadh
> "David Moss" <q032...@mail.connect.usq.edu.au> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1e48a8b31...@news.bigpond.com...
>
>>In article <43ddc7df$0$10626$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>,
>>fasg...@yahoo.com.au writes...
>>
>>
>>>>If you really cared about the bloke you might realise his tribe never
>>>>mention the name of someone who has died.
>>>
>>>I'm not one of his tribe, save your crocodile tears.
>>
>>Clearly.
>>
>>Congratulations Fasi, you just blew any credibility you ever imagined
>>you had on indigenous issues.
>>
>>--
>>DM
>>personal opinion only
>
>
> David, I am shocked.
Take a deep breath and Count to Three!
ooops, you wont be able to do that!
>
> Did you ever really believe that our net-kook Fasi had any credibility ?
How Racists Count to Three: B^D
The Great Race Challenge was issued:
>> You racists will have to decide how many 'race' categories (3-50?)
>>
>> If it should be 'simple enough' to define 'races'
>> (shit, one would have thought that was done
>> already.. centuries ago! B^) then applying them
>> should be routine! ;-)
...
RMOdd responded:
>>> 3 groups of Caucasoid , Negroid and Mongoloid ,
...
"I did suggest just the 3 basic racial groups,
I will just keep it to that"
- RMOdd
Message-ID: <FJWCf.229981$V7.1...@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
"We are not talking about animal species taxonomy,
just 3 varieties of human races. " - RMOdd ibid
"I have always said there are 3 groups, should be no
great problem over too much hair splitting in that."
-RMOdd ibid
Just three, eh? No Hair Splitting?
Plus these two below? B^D
# "R M O'Donnell" <rm...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
# news:XtFCf.229274$V7.2...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
# >
# > This accident of identification in the Cronulla riots
# > was in fact due to visual racial identification
# > being fairly reliable. Both southern Italian and
# > Lebanese people are mostly a mixture of the
# > Semetic and Mediterranean races,
...
"I thought even you were agreeing that the catagories
would be the 3 racial groups of ~ >
1. Negroid
2.. Caucasoid
3. Mongoloid" - RMOdd
"I eagerly await a set of pics to class into 3 groups." - RMOdd
"Semetic", "Mediterranean", "Caucasoid" , "Negroid" and "Mongoloid"??
The racist trinity!? B^D
Count them! B^D
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAA!
>>Total number of categories, not major groups, is 3?
>>
>>Thats it? no more to be added later?
>>
>>You can't claim it is a useful, workable system,
>>and then want to change it when it doesn't fit the
>>first set of data!
>>The deal is, the participants have to agree on their
>>classification system, THEN run the test.
>>
>>"3 groups of Caucasoid , Negroid and Mongoloid ,"
>
>
> Yep, 3 catagories.
...
Sure, ....ALL FIVE OF THEM! B^
> RM O'Donnell
fasgnadh
How can this bloke have had the 'same rights'
as citizens, WHEN HE WAS NOT EVEN COUNTED AS BEING ONE! B^p
>>>>>>> "ALBERT NAMAT#IRA
>>
>>
>> Name modified so Dave Moss and Racist McDonnel don't have an
>> excuse for donning their White Eyepatch and pretending
>> they can't see the truth! B^p
>
>
> Are you serious?
As serious as you are evasive and false.
> I don't think you could be more offensive if you tried Fasi.
I don't care if you are offended by the truth.
Hey, Dave, put in a formal complaint to your tory mates,
and explain your sudden NEW FOUND cultural sensitivities
in relation to the HOWARD GOVERNMENT WEBSITE you don't
seem to have got around to condemmning since July 2002:
http://www.anbg.gov.au/biography/namatjira-albert.html
B^p
>>>>>>> (1902 - 1959)
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Albert Namat#ira is one of Australia's great artists,
>>>>>>> and perhaps the best known Aboriginal painter.
>>>> ...>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fame led to Albert and his wife becoming the first
>>>>>>> Aborigines to be granted Australian citizenship.
>>
In other words, he gained, FOR THE FIRST TIME,
B^p
Second source:
http://www.artistsfootsteps.com/html/Namat#ira_biography.htm
No way..
>>>> ....
That series of stamps released in 2002 featuring
paintings of an artist we shall call 'Bert' with his name
on them, posted all over the bloody country, and on
the tory government website...
Funny thing, Dave, with all your sudden cultural
sensitivities, I don't recall you making a peep
of protest? Not feeling Politically Correct that day? B^p
Too busy packing for the Hypocrites Convention? B^D
Remember.. whatever you do, don't mention the Tomb
of the Unknown Non-Citizen who was forbidden to build
a house or lease a farm.. who couldn't VOTE,
and yet was TAXED! 8^o
You just keep that White Eyepatch on firmly, gubba!
> [cut]
> I find it disgusting that you drag out the story of a great artist
I find it disgusting that you try and bury that story,
...is this what Howard's White Eypatch of history is about,
the FABRICATION of history by leaving out the bits that
don't fit your personal beliefs!? B^p
How contemptible to try and pretend that you are bound
by a culture you don't practice, except in this single
case, just so you don't have to confront the truth
about the denigration of those people!
You have lost whatever respect I had for you, Dave.
> to
> illustrate how badly he was treated by mainstream Australian culture,
Unlike you, I am not going to pretend he wasn't badly treated.
> then proceed to insult his culture by naming him in public.
Please stop insulting Muslims by drinking,
non-complience with a culture you don't practice
might cause you to choke on your
Political Correctness and hypocrisy.
Unknown
wrote:
>I don't care if you are offended by the truth.
Who cares what you care.
> >>>>>>> Albert Namat#ira is one of Australia's great artists,
> >>>>>>> and perhaps the best known Aboriginal painter.
Your obsessed with Albert Namatjira.
> After dissapointing attempts at other careers van Gogh turned to
> Impressionism.
>
> After dissapointing attempts at creating a name for himself promoting
> True Blueism Fasnag has given up short of his grand visions for a real
> website on the topic and turned to Sunderlism as a possible
> replacement.
>
> His strange and radical brand of seperatism is becoming clearer and
> clearer as he taps away incoherently at his key board hour after hour.
>
> http://geocities.com/sunderlism/faqs here he comes!!!
fasgnadh
>
> Your obsessed with Albert Namatjira.
"If you really cared about the bloke you might realise his
tribe never mention the name of someone who has died."
- Dave Moss suddenly developing cultural sensitivity
"Congratulations ..., you just blew any credibility you ever imagined
you had on indigenous issues."
- Dave Moss, avoiding discussion of real indigenous issues
"I find it disgusting that you
...
insult his culture by naming him in public.
If you didn't know about the custom I could understand the error. But
then you go on to make a trivial change in spelling and repeat the
insult. This time it has to be deliberate.
I suspect if we turned your black arm band inside out it might be red,
with a white circle and a black swastika."
- Dave Moss, displaying the best in tory hypocricy
David Moss
fasgnadh
Never heard of "Kwementyay Springs"?
Neither has Dave Moss, apparently.
Among some Aboriginal groups, the name of a dead person
is not used.. sometimes for a period of some years, until
an elder lifts the prohibition.
Thus, if someone called ALICE died recently, the name Alice
is not used FOR A PERIOD OF TIME... Not just in referring
to that particular Alice, but AT ALL!
Thus if YOUR name is Alice Smith, and Alice Tjapinjarri dies,
for some time, up to several years, YOU may be called
Kwementyay (Koom-in-jay) Smith (there are variations of the
term used depending on the regional group).
And Alice Springs, will called Kwementyay Springs!
So anyone who uses the term Alice Springs, is, according
Moss the cultural wanker, insulting indigenous culture! B^p
Wot a tosser!
He deserves to have his arse kicked and known henceforth
as "Dave 'Kwementyay' Moss" for a number of reasons;
1. Namatjira died decades ago, the use of Kwementyay in place
of his actual name has long expired. NO ONE observes it.
Not me, not historians, not Kwementyay Moss's hypocritical
tory mates.
2. If Moss's bullshit objection applied, he would not be able
to refer to Alice Springs, because a woman of that name
died at a small settlement midway between Broome and
'Kwementyay' Springs! B^p
3. Forget the Internet, Kwementyay Moss's insane Political
Correctness would mean that no one in the world could use
the term "Alice" because an Alice has died!
"There is no doubt there is a living custom among Aborigines
that says a recently departed person's name should not be spoken.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
How the dead person is referred to varies but in Central
Australia it is as Kunmunara. He might also be ``that old man''
or ``such and such's father''.
But whether this rule of silence should apply to non-Aborigines
is questionable."
http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/img/2005/ep07/toohey.pdf
Dave Moss, in attempting to avoid admitting he
was caught out lying about the denial of citizenship
rights to aboriginals until recent living memory,
and because he's a tory tosser, took issue with me
using Albert Namatjira's name, and subsequently sooked
and ran away from the issues highlighted by Namatjira's
history. It was a pathetic and hypocritical act, pretending
to show concern for Aboriginal culture only to stifle
debate about how that culture was stifled and the people
treated more like fauna, than citizens.
"Kwementyay", you have no credibility left,
and have lost my respect completely,
FOR THE REASONS CLEARLY DOCUMENTED.
Hey, Kwementyay Moss, put in a formal complaint to your tory mates,
http://www.anbg.gov.au/biography/namatjira-albert.html
B^p
B^p
Second source:
http://www.artistsfootsteps.com/html/Namat#ira_biography.htm
(And they are the wankers who introduced the term 'Political
Correctness'! BWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAAA! )
No way..
>> >>>> ....
http://www.spitting-image.net/archives/images/007.jpg
"Kwementyay Moss insults Indians by not skewering himself!"
Wot a PC WANKER! B^p
>> Dave is being a complete wanker.
>>
>> >>> Clearly.
>> >>
Mayan culture requires the sacrifice of a virgin to
ensure the sun comes up.. as you are so concerned
to mimic cultures slavishly.. where will you find one?
>> >>> Congratulations Fasi, you just blew any credibility
>> >>> you ever imagined you had on indigenous issues.
That series of stamps released in 2002 featuring
paintings of an artist we shall call 'Bert' with his name
on them, posted all over the bloody country, and on
the tory government website...
Funny thing, Dave, with all your sudden cultural
sensitivities, I don't recall you making a peep
of protest? Not feeling Politically Correct that day? B^p
Too busy packing for the Hypocrites Convention? B^D
Remember.. whatever you do, don't mention the Tomb
of the Unknown Non-Citizen who was forbidden to build
a house or lease a farm.. who couldn't VOTE,
and yet was TAXED! 8^o
You just keep that White Eyepatch on firmly, gubba!
>>
>>
>>>[cut]
>>
>>
>>>I find it disgusting that you drag out the story of a great artist
I find it disgusting that you try and bury that story, Kwementyay
...is this what Howard's White Eypatch of history is about,
the FABRICATION of history by leaving out the bits that
don't fit your personal beliefs!? B^p
How contemptible to try and pretend that you are bound
by a culture you don't practice, except in this single
case, just so you don't have to confront the truth
about the denigration of those people!
You have lost whatever respect I had for you, Dave.
>>> to illustrate how badly he was treated
>>>by mainstream Australian culture,
Unlike you, I am not going to pretend he wasn't badly treated.
Nor will I follow your PC BULLSHIT, designed to stifle discussion!
>>>then proceed to insult his culture by naming him in public.
Please stop insulting Muslims by drinking,
non-complience with a culture you don't practice
might cause you to choke on your
Political Correctness and hypocrisy.
>
> plonk
>
Continuing to drink plonk is deeply offensive to Muslims,
Once might have been a mistake, twice means it is
deliberate offence, and you are a hypocritical wanker.
--
- fasgnadh
Message-ID: <qh1hs15q9ffb1j5je...@4ax.com>
------------
"We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other
and fight to defend our rights and liberties."
R M O'Donnell
>
> Never heard of "Kwementyay Springs"?
>
> Wot a tosser!
Congratulations on beginning self asessment Fag Nuts. It is time you went
back to the looney bin for ECV & largactil shots in the arse.
> No way..
>
>
>
>>> >>>> "1950: In July, Albert decided to once again apply for
>>> >>>> his graziers licence, this time with
>>> >>>> the Native Affairs Branch and Lands
>>> >>>> Department in Darwin. ...However, his trip to Darwin
>>> >>>> was in vain for his application for a
>>> >>>> graziers licence was again refused"
So he was forced to apply for his "dog tags" & get the right to buy grog.
>>> >>>>>>> "This meant they could vote, enter a hotel and
>>> >>>>>>> build a house anywhere they chose.
So he decided to spend his money on, ~ >
>> plonk
Not a bad drink actually
>
> Continuing to drink plonk is deeply offensive to some Muslims,
> Once might have been a mistake, twice means it is
> deliberate offence, and fasgnadhs is a hypocritical wanker.
That is why very few Aborigines have converted to Islam.
fasgnadh
>>
>> Never heard of "Kwementyay Springs"?
>>
Thanks Kwementyay, it certainly shows you two up
as the ranting, hypocritical, ignorant tossers I
knew you to be.
"Kwementyay Springs"!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAA
And you are both completly stumped, without a single
intelligent or rational response possible.
Your scalp hangs over my mantlepiece, you know it,
Kwementyay Moss knows it, and the whole NG knows it! B^)
As I said, racists are stupid.
...
http://www.anbg.gov.au/biography/namatjira-albert.html
B^p
B^p
Second source:
http://www.artistsfootsteps.com/html/Namat#ira_biography.htm
No way..
>>>>>>> "1950: In July, Albert decided to once again apply for
>>>>>>> his graziers licence, this time with
>>>>>>> the Native Affairs Branch and Lands
>>>>>>> Department in Darwin. ...However, his trip to Darwin
>>>>>>> was in vain for his application for a
>>>>>>> graziers licence was again refused"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It was a strange situation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here was a man, heralded as a top artist,
>>>>>>>>>> treated like a celebrity and yet not even allowed to own land.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "He was definitely the beginning of a recognition
>>>>>>>>>> of Aboriginal people by white Australia." Charles Perkins
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Public outrage at Albert's predicament pushed
>>>>>>>>>> the government to grant him and his wife full
>>>>>>>>>> citizenship in 1957."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
1957, 169 years, OVER a CENTURY and a half, AFTER Settlement,
AND ONLY TWO ABORIGINALS HAD FULL CITIZENSHIP! 8^o
Talk about being FUCKED OVER! B^p
And now, hypocrites and frauds who cannot acknowledge
history with frankness and honesty, pretend their
evasion is based on following customs that are not their own
and do not bind any of us! B^p
>>>>>>>>>> "This meant they could vote, enter a hotel and
>>>>>>>>>> build a house anywhere they chose.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ....
>>
http://www.spitting-image.net/archives/images/007.jpg
>>
>> plonk
>>
Continuing to drink plonk is deeply offensive to Muslims,
Once might have been a mistake, twice means it is
Neville Duguid
> Thanks Kwementyay, it certainly shows you two up
> as the ranting, hypocritical, ignorant tossers I
> knew you to be.
>
> "Kwementyay Springs"!
>
> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAA
So THAT'S why "Che Guava" changed his name to "fasgnadh"?
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAA
Neville Duguid
> "1951: On his return from walkabout, he informed those
> in charge at the Hermannsburg Lutheran Mission that
> he intended to build a new home in Alice Springs.
> He was told that this was not allowed,
You have deliberately ignored the REAL reason. If Albert had checked the
births and deaths notices, he would have noticed that someone named
Alice had died in recent times. Thus, according to the rest of your
rant, he was breaching Aboriginal law and should have applied to build
it in Kwementyay Springs - a request far more likely to be approved,
since it could apply to any place the officials cared to reinterpret it
as meaning which shared part of its name with part of the name of a
recently deceased person.
PROVIDED THAT Albert avoided prosecution for signing his name "Albert"
when someone else of that name also died somewhere in Australia recent
to the date.
Phew! Lucky for Albert "fasgnadh" was not Attorney General at the time!
David Moss
theo...@kangarooistan.com.au writes...
The English language has a convention of upper and lower case to better
convey meaning. Capitalisation indicates where a sentence (and therefore
a single idea) begins and ends. Upper case also delineate acronyms from
ordinary words and is useful for indicating proper names.
I notice you conform by using fairly standard English, and you conform
to the ASCII or Unicode standard too. As a non-conformist you suck
bigtime.
Gurer vf n ovt qvssrerapr orgjrra ynmvarff naq aba-pbasbezvgl. Nf n aba-
pbasbezvfg lbh fhpx ovtgvzr. Nf n ynml fbq lbh svg va jryy. Whfg
erzrzore, vs lbh xrrc cbfgvat va nyy hccrepnfr crbcyr jvyy whfg cybax
lbh va gur obmb ova.
Of course even the previous paragraph conforms to a standard, otherwise
there would be no point in posting it. If I posted my entire article in
that format you would probably find it as irritating as people find your
own capslock efforts.