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Sekula  
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From: "Sekula" <b...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:13:04 +1100
Local: Mon, Nov 14 2011 12:13 am
Subject: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
To stop or at least make more accountable, this sort of criminal behaviour:

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/probe-into-mosman-school-formal-rort-201111...


 
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From: Sylvia Else <syl...@not.here.invalid>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:18:40 +1100
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Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On 14/11/2011 4:13 PM, Sekula wrote:

> To stop or at least make more accountable, this sort of criminal behaviour:

> http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/probe-into-mosman-school-formal-rort-201111...

So the ABN provided on

http://www.yourformal.com/about.php

has stopped this?

Sylvia.


 
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From: "Trevor" <tre...@home.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:33:36 +1100
Local: Mon, Nov 14 2011 12:33 am
Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages

"Sekula" <b...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

news:4ec0a343$0$29364$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...

> To stop or at least make more accountable, this sort of criminal
> behaviour:

How will that help? Jetstar has an ABN yet still takes your money, cancels
your flight, and refuses refunds even AFTER being told by DFT to do so! Pity
they are a toothless tiger :-(

Trevor.


 
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From: "Sekula" <b...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:40:31 +1100
Local: Mon, Nov 14 2011 1:40 am
Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages

"Sylvia Else"  wrote in message news:9ibmlhFmm3U1@mid.individual.net...

On 14/11/2011 4:13 PM, Sekula wrote:

> To stop or at least make more accountable, this sort of criminal
> behaviour:

> http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/probe-into-mosman-school-formal-rort-201111...

So the ABN provided on

http://www.yourformal.com/about.php

has stopped this?

Sylvia.

So there is a law regarding disclosure of ABN's on websites?


 
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From: B J Foster <bjfos...@yahoo.com.invalid>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:07:31 +1100
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Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On 14/11/2011 5:40 PM, Sekula wrote:

How did you conclude that?

 
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From: David Clayton <dcstarbox-use...@NOSPAM.yahoo.com.au>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 18:18:28 +1100
Local: Mon, Nov 14 2011 2:18 am
Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages

On Mon, 14 Nov 2011 16:13:04 +1100, Sekula wrote:
> To stop or at least make more accountable, this sort of criminal
> behaviour:

> http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/probe-into-mosman-school-formal-rort-201111...

What!?!, the Internet has to be trusted as much as anyone else taking your
money!?!  Whoda thunk it?

At least this lot now have one valuable life lesson - if they learn not to
be as stupid as most of their peers.

--
Regards, David.

David Clayton
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Knowledge is a measure of how many answers you have, intelligence is a
measure of how many questions you have.


 
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From: farkya hzalle <faryahza...@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 23:51:23 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 14 2011 2:51 am
Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On Nov 14, 3:13 pm, "Sekula" <b...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> To stop or at least make more accountable, this sort of criminal behaviour:

> http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/probe-into-mosman-school-formal-rort-201111...

So the web site ripped off a whole bunch of people? You're a shit
plated fuckwit.

 
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From: "Sekula" <b...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:02:23 +1100
Local: Mon, Nov 14 2011 3:02 am
Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages

"B J Foster"  wrote in message news:j9qeni$t3e$1@bjf.motzarella.org...

On 14/11/2011 5:40 PM, Sekula wrote:

How did you conclude that?

I'm asking a question did you see that funny symbol at the end of the
sentence that looks a LOT like  this "?" ?


 
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From: "Sekula" <b...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 19:03:33 +1100
Local: Mon, Nov 14 2011 3:03 am
Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages

"farkya hzalle"  wrote in message

news:2a1fe6b6-d9fd-468a-8bb6-36f8dcfafb33@s35g2000pra.googlegroups.com...

On Nov 14, 3:13 pm, "Sekula" <b...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> To stop or at least make more accountable, this sort of criminal
> behaviour:

> http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/probe-into-mosman-school-formal-rort-201111...

So the web site ripped off a whole bunch of people? You're a shit
plated fuckwit.

You must be  one of those thieving pricks then?


 
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 More options Nov 14 2011, 4:41 am
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From: Rob <mesam...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:41:54 +1100
Local: Mon, Nov 14 2011 4:41 am
Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On 14/11/2011 6:07 PM, B J Foster wrote:

I think to have an Australian registered domain name .com.au, .net.au,
and even .org.au you must have a registered company or ABN  .org.au has
to have an organisation registration number.

This web site if you notice is not Australian register but just a dot
com site.

I'm not in favor of using an company operating in Australia that is not
registered here.
........................................................................

Oh BTW

http://www.abr.business.gov.au/SearchByAbn.aspx?SearchText=88396065224+

which is the lookup on this ABN number -interesting!@


 
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 More options Nov 14 2011, 5:43 am
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From: Sylvia Else <syl...@not.here.invalid>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:43:50 +1100
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Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On 14/11/2011 8:41 PM, Rob wrote:

Well spotted. For good measure, the company whose name is given is in
the process of being struck off.

http://www2.search.asic.gov.au/cgi-bin/gns030c?acn=139_087_979&juris=...

On offence against

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/antsbna1999470/s23....

subsection (1) appears to have been committed, which is good for up to
two years in prison.

Sylvia


 
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From: farkya hzalle <faryahza...@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:52:29 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 14 2011 5:52 am
Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On Nov 14, 7:41 pm, Rob <mesam...@gmail.com> wrote:

Bullshit.

  .org.au has

> to have an organisation registration number.

More bullshit.

> This web site if you notice is not Australian register but just a dot
> com site.

So?


 
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From: farkya hzalle <faryahza...@hotmail.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 02:50:59 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 14 2011 5:50 am
Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On Nov 14, 6:03 pm, "Sekula" <b...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "farkya hzalle"  wrote in message

> news:2a1fe6b6-d9fd-468a-8bb6-36f8dcfafb33@s35g2000pra.googlegroups.com...

> On Nov 14, 3:13 pm, "Sekula" <b...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > To stop or at least make more accountable, this sort of criminal
> > behaviour:

> >http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/probe-into-mosman-school-formal-rort-201111...

> So the web site ripped off a whole bunch of people? You're a shit
> plated fuckwit.

> You must be  one of those thieving pricks then?

Can't address the issue, can you, shit for brains.

 
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From: Rob <mesam...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:46:15 +1100
Local: Mon, Nov 14 2011 6:46 am
Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On 14/11/2011 9:52 PM, farkya hzalle wrote:

Can you cite where you have that information from just to prove I'm wrong.

Don't just say its BS. That proves nothing, it says you know nothing.


 
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From: atec77 <ate...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:53:39 +1000
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Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On 14/11/2011 9:46 PM, Rob wrote:

run it through whois

 
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From: Rob <mesam...@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:12:43 +1100
Local: Mon, Nov 14 2011 7:12 am
Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On 14/11/2011 10:53 PM, atec77 wrote:

I don't have to. Applied a few times now setting up web sites.

".com.au, .net.au, .org.au

To register one of these domain names you will need an ABN, an ACN, an
Incorporated Association Number or your registered business's
identification number."

http://www.domainhostingshop.com.au/australian-domain-name-requirements/.


 
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From: atec77 <ate...@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 22:33:25 +1000
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Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On 14/11/2011 10:12 PM, Rob wrote:

   Not anymore although it used to be

 
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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:35:56 +1100
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Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On 14/11/2011 11:33 PM, atec77 wrote:

still is

 
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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:40:15 +1100
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Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On 14/11/2011 9:43 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:

Could you relay that info to the schoolgirls?

Mr 'KAPOOR' might think it worthwhile to hand *back* several x $300
rather than spend two years in prison.


 
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Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 04:43:23 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On Nov 14, 10:33 pm, atec77 <ate...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Still is.  Moreso.  Getting very Nazi about it these days.

Mark Addinall.


 
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From: Addinall <addin...@addinall.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 04:41:50 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On Nov 14, 8:52 pm, farkya hzalle <faryahza...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

"Requirements:
The .com.au domains can only be registered if you hold an ABN, ACN or
Registered Business Name. The domain name should be an exact match,
acronym or abbreviation of the domain name sought or is a close and
substantial connection to the legal identity"

> Bullshit.

>   .org.au has

> > to have an organisation registration number.

> More bullshit.

".org.au
$36.00
2 years
  A charity operating in Australia, as defined in the registrant’s
constitution or other documents of incorporation; or a non-profit
organisation operating in Australia, as defined in the registrant’s
constitution or other documents of incorporation.
.id.au
$36.00
2 years For individuals who are Australian citizens or residents. It
is the only domain name that does not require the Registrant (domain
name licensees) to be a commercial entity.
The id.au domain name must be exactly match of the registrant's
personal name
or be an acronym or abbreviation of the registrant? personal name;
or be otherwise closely and substantially connected to the registrant,
because the domain name:
(i) is derived from one or more words of the registrant's personal
name; or
(ii) includes one or more words of the registrant's personal name.
(names subject to availability - pre payment required - non refundable
on successful registration).
.asn.au
$36.00
2 years For incorporated associations, political parties, trade
unions, sporting and special interest clubs.
(names subject to availability - pre payment required - non refundable
on successful registration).
.edu.au The only registrar is http://www.domainname.edu.au/ "

HTH.

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From: Oy Rool Out a Carbon Tax <gillard_l...@promises.are.invalid>
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:14:50 +1100
Local: Mon, Nov 14 2011 8:14 am
Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On 14/11/2011 8:41 PM, Rob wrote:

Why do you think so many choose NOT to use a .au domain? Who wants to be
controlled on the web by nanny state leftard control freaks? You even
pay a bit more for the .au IIRC, for the privilege of them imposing
rules on you. LOL!

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From: terryc <newsninespam-s...@woa.com.au>
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 02:10:49 +1100
Local: Mon, Nov 14 2011 10:10 am
Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
Oy Rool Out a Carbon Tax wrote:

> Why do you think so many choose NOT to use a .au domain? Who wants to be
> controlled on the web by nanny state leftard control freaks? You even
> pay a bit more for the .au IIRC, for the privilege of them imposing
> rules on you. LOL!

And showing to the world that they are dealing with a legitimate
australian business rather than some fly by night scammer.

 
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From: Addinall <addin...@addinall.net>
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 09:30:42 -0800 (PST)
Local: Mon, Nov 14 2011 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On Nov 15, 1:10 am, terryc <newsninespam-s...@woa.com.au> wrote:

> Oy Rool Out a Carbon Tax wrote:

> > Why do you think so many choose NOT to use a .au domain? Who wants to be
> > controlled on the web by nanny state leftard control freaks? You even
> > pay a bit more for the .au IIRC, for the privilege of them imposing
> > rules on you. LOL!

> And showing to the world that they are dealing with a legitimate
> australian business rather than some fly by night scammer.

Ah, you have a scam up your portal.

Possesing an ABN no way legitimises an organisation.
It means they will get pestered with BAS statements.
That's all.

Mark Addinall.


 
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From: Oy Rool Out a Carbon Tax <gillard_l...@promises.are.invalid>
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 08:04:49 +1100
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Subject: Re: Mandatory ABN no's for Australian webpages
On 15/11/2011 2:10 AM, terryc wrote:
> Oy Rool Out a Carbon Tax wrote:

>> Why do you think so many choose NOT to use a .au domain? Who wants to
>> be controlled on the web by nanny state leftard control freaks? You
>> even pay a bit more for the .au IIRC, for the privilege of them
>> imposing rules on you. LOL!

> And showing to the world that they are dealing with a legitimate
> australian business rather than some fly by night scammer.

If the world were interested.

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