Network question
Superman
This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy ppl
here, but here goes..
Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects using
the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable access point and
modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so I'm wondering if there's
any way to set the spare modem to the same MAC address so that I can set
up another internet access point?
Q2/ If that's not possible, how do I create another net access point? Do
I use two of these.. http://tinyurl.com/yb5ptns .. one connected to the
modem, and the other where I want the other access point? Or else how do
I do it?
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Rob
>
> This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy ppl
> here, but here goes..
>
> Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects using
> the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable access point and
> modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so I'm wondering if there's
> any way to set the spare modem to the same MAC address so that I can set
> up another internet access point?
>
> Q2/ If that's not possible, how do I create another net access point? Do
> I use two of these.. http://tinyurl.com/yb5ptns .. one connected to the
> modem, and the other where I want the other access point? Or else how do
> I do it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> **
>
The modem goes to a router then tap off that for all connections, wired
or wireless.
Get an 'N' router not the 'G' as you suggest above. Check the specs.
D-LINK Wireless N Router DIR-615 not the D-LINK Wireless G Router
DIR-300 - Check the specs. If keen on DLink
Superman
Ok, I get that the router connects to the modem, but what does the
router transmit to? so that I can get another internet connection point?
Do I just use another router of the same kind? Or if I run a cable from
the router it would need to be about 30 or 40 metres long. Would that
length be a problem, eg. signal loss, interference, etc., and what kind
of wall plates/sockets would I use? I also want to do it as cheaply as
possible. The easiest way to do it would be if I could use the spare
modem somehow, and just connect it to the cable point that is already there.
Rob
Thats why you need the N router so you can go wireless or run a cable
from the router to the PC - 40 metres is nothing.
atec 7 7
http://www.dd-wrt.com and upgrade the firmware
run the modem end in wireless ap the other end in wds client swap macs
and off you go a seamless connection
Superman
thanks but I don't understand any of that! maybe I'll ring Bigpond help.
but that's an oxymoron isn't it.
atec 7 7
David L. Jones
> On 1/01/2010 10:05 PM, Rob wrote:
>
>> Superman wrote:
>>>
>>> This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy
>>> ppl here, but here goes..
>>>
>>> Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects
>>> using the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable access
>>> point and modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so I'm
>>> wondering if there's any way to set the spare modem to the same MAC
>>> address so that I can set up another internet access point?
>>>
>>> Q2/ If that's not possible, how do I create another net access
>>> point? Do I use two of these.. http://tinyurl.com/yb5ptns .. one
>>> connected to the modem, and the other where I want the other access
>>> point? Or else how do I do it?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> **
>>>
>>
>> The modem goes to a router then tap off that for all connections,
>> wired or wireless.
>>
>> Get an 'N' router not the 'G' as you suggest above. Check the specs.
>>
>> D-LINK Wireless N Router DIR-615 not the D-LINK Wireless G Router
>> DIR-300 - Check the specs. If keen on DLink
>
> Ok, I get that the router connects to the modem, but what does the
> router transmit to?
Each computer, via cable Ethernet or Wireless.
> so that I can get another internet connection
> point? Do I just use another router of the same kind? Or if I run a cable
> from the router it would need to be about 30 or 40 metres long. Would that
> length be a problem, eg. signal loss, interference, etc.
No. 30 or 40 meters is easily possible with Ethernet.
> and what kind of wall plates/sockets would I use? I also want to do it as
> cheaply as
> possible.
Wireless is the easiest and probably the cheapest solution. Get a WiFi card
or dongle for your computer.
> The easiest way to do it would be if I could use the spare
> modem somehow, and just connect it to the cable point that is already
> there.
Forget trying to use the extra bigpond modem, it's not going to work.
The Bigpond modem plugs into the "Internet" input on the rounter, you then
plug all your computers into the rounter.
If you get a wireless router (you should, even if you don't need it now)
then you can connect as many computers as you want using the wireless
connection, as well as the ones connected directly to the router.
I use a DIR-300 D-Link wireless router with my bigpond modem, but there are
countless others.
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Superman
What I was actually asking is.. what equipment does the router transmit
to? Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers. So what can I
use as the receiver if I go the wireless route? I can't use a dongle as
I need to connect via an ethernet socket, and that's because I'm not
wanting to connect to a computer but a DVDR.
>> so that I can get another internet connection
>> point? Do I just use another router of the same kind? Or if I run a cable
>> from the router it would need to be about 30 or 40 metres long. Would that
>> length be a problem, eg. signal loss, interference, etc.
>>
> No. 30 or 40 meters is easily possible with Ethernet.
>
ok
>
>> and what kind of wall plates/sockets would I use? I also want to do it as
>> cheaply as
>> possible.
>>
> Wireless is the easiest and probably the cheapest solution. Get a WiFi card
> or dongle for your computer.
>
>
I can't use either of those (see above) but I understand now that I can
run a cable from the router and just plug the other end into the
ethernet socket of the DVDR. But is there such a thing as a 'double
adapter' to use on the ethernet socket of the BP modem? If so it would
eliminate the need for a router.
>> The easiest way to do it would be if I could use the spare
>> modem somehow, and just connect it to the cable point that is already
>> there.
>>
> Forget trying to use the extra bigpond modem, it's not going to work.
>
> The Bigpond modem plugs into the "Internet" input on the rounter, you then
> plug all your computers into the rounter.
> If you get a wireless router (you should, even if you don't need it now)
> then you can connect as many computers as you want using the wireless
> connection, as well as the ones connected directly to the router.
>
> I use a DIR-300 D-Link wireless router with my bigpond modem, but there are
> countless others.
>
I'm told that not all routers work with BP modems. I will have to get a
list of 'approved' ones, but it's good to know that the DIR-300 does.
> Dave.
Rob
yes
David L. Jones
The ethernet connection on the computer or other Internet enabled device of
course.
> Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers.
They are tranceivers, they send and recieve ethernet packets.
> So what can I use as the receiver if I go the wireless route?
You need a wireless ethernet bridge, like this:
http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WET54G
> I can't use a dongle as I need to connect via an ethernet socket, and
> that's
> because I'm not wanting to connect to a computer but a DVDR.
>
>>> and what kind of wall plates/sockets would I use? I also want to do
>>> it as cheaply as
>>> possible.
>>>
>> Wireless is the easiest and probably the cheapest solution. Get a
>> WiFi card or dongle for your computer.
>>
>>
>
> I can't use either of those (see above) but I understand now that I
> can run a cable from the router and just plug the other end into the
> ethernet socket of the DVDR. But is there such a thing as a 'double
> adapter' to use on the ethernet socket of the BP modem? If so it would
> eliminate the need for a router.
Don't know for sure, sorry.
A wireless ethernet bridge would allow you to use a wireless router as I
said.
Rob
> Superman" <"the _man_of_steel wrote:
>> On 2/01/2010 3:05 PM, David L. Jones wrote:
>>
>>> Superman"<"the _man_of_steel wrote:
Look I found a picture!
Jasen Betts
> What I was actually asking is.. what equipment does the router transmit
> to? Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers. So what can I
> use as the receiver if I go the wireless route? I can't use a dongle as
> I need to connect via an ethernet socket, and that's because I'm not
> wanting to connect to a computer but a DVDR.
a "wireless bridge" or an access point that supports bridging can be
used to connect wired devices to a wireless network.
> I can't use either of those (see above) but I understand now that I can
> run a cable from the router and just plug the other end into the
> ethernet socket of the DVDR. But is there such a thing as a 'double
> adapter' to use on the ethernet socket of the BP modem? If so it would
> eliminate the need for a router.
you could try an ethernet switch there.
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Fast Freddy
>
> This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy ppl
> here, but here goes..
>
> Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects using
> the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable access point and
> modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so I'm wondering if there's
> any way to set the spare modem to the same MAC address so that I can set
> up another internet access point?
no, the mac address is like a serial number, each unit is unique, if you
change the modem you have to inform the service provider that you have
changed the router so they can reset the mac address to id the different
router.
>
> Q2/ If that's not possible, how do I create another net access point? Do
> I use two of these.. http://tinyurl.com/yb5ptns .. one connected to the
> modem, and the other where I want the other access point? Or else how do
> I do it?
just use a wireless router, I use a TPlink router to which I have a
desktop on lan, a notebook and a netbook on wireless, a ipod touch on
wireless along with a media player on lan.
all which quite happyly work together, for example I can play avi or mkv
files from the notebook thru to the media player to watch on my large
screen lcd tv.
Hugh Jeego
"Superman" <"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
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>
> What I was actually asking is.. what equipment does the router transmit
> to? Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers. So what can I
Nope. A router is a transceiver the same as radios in taxis are
transceivers. Routers send and receive otherwise they cant route.
> use as the receiver if I go the wireless route? I can't use a dongle as I
> need to connect via an ethernet socket, and that's because I'm not wanting
> to connect to a computer but a DVDR.
I assume you mean you want to connect to something like a Tivo? If so you
need to be more specific. Which one? In any case, a wi-fi router is a
transceiver and you WOULD need a dongle if your computer isnt close to the
other equipment. Alternatively, if you want to run ethernet cables
everywhere, you could have a router that either is or isnt also wi-fi and
plug the cables into it. Some routers allow more than one ethernet
connection.
Superman
>
> "Superman" <"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
> news:VCH%m.66372$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> What I was actually asking is.. what equipment does the router
>> transmit to? Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers. So
>> what can I
>
> Nope. A router is a transceiver the same as radios in taxis are
> transceivers. Routers send and receive otherwise they cant route.
>
>> use as the receiver if I go the wireless route? I can't use a dongle
>> as I need to connect via an ethernet socket, and that's because I'm
>> not wanting to connect to a computer but a DVDR.
>
> I assume you mean you want to connect to something like a Tivo?
No, it's a DVDR that has inbuilt software for connecting to the internet
via an ethernet socket.
> If so you need to be more specific. Which one? In any case, a wi-fi
> router is a transceiver and you WOULD need a dongle if your computer
> isnt close to the other equipment. Alternatively, if you want to run
> ethernet cables everywhere, you could have a router that either is or
> isnt also wi-fi and plug the cables into it. Some routers allow more
> than one ethernet connection.
>
>
It seems to me this is what I have to do?..
http://ausnet.info/pics/router.jpg
(with apologies to Rembrandt, Renoir, etc., :)
Superman
The router has to transmit to some device that the cable from the socket
plugs into. That is what I meant.
>> Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers.
>>
> They are tranceivers, they send and recieve ethernet packets.
>
>
>> So what can I use as the receiver if I go the wireless route?
>>
> You need a wireless ethernet bridge, like this:
> http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WET54G
>
>
ok, thanks. I'm beginning to get this problem sorted out now.
>> I can't use a dongle as I need to connect via an ethernet socket, and
>> that's
>> because I'm not wanting to connect to a computer but a DVDR.
>>
>>
>>>> and what kind of wall plates/sockets would I use? I also want to do
>>>> it as cheaply as
>>>> possible.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Wireless is the easiest and probably the cheapest solution. Get a
>>> WiFi card or dongle for your computer.
>>>
>>>
>> I can't use either of those (see above) but I understand now that I
>> can run a cable from the router and just plug the other end into the
>> ethernet socket of the DVDR. But is there such a thing as a 'double
>> adapter' to use on the ethernet socket of the BP modem? If so it would
>> eliminate the need for a router.
>>
> Don't know for sure, sorry.
> A wireless ethernet bridge would allow you to use a wireless router as I
> said.
>
> Dave.
>
>
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>
>
> It seems to me this is what I have to do?..
> http://ausnet.info/pics/router.jpg
>
> (with apologies to Rembrandt, Renoir, etc., :)
>
>
(except that the 'receiver' router can alternatively be a bridge)
Superman
> On 2010-01-02, Superman<"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote:
>
>
>> What I was actually asking is.. what equipment does the router transmit
>> to? Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers. So what can I
>> use as the receiver if I go the wireless route? I can't use a dongle as
>> I need to connect via an ethernet socket, and that's because I'm not
>> wanting to connect to a computer but a DVDR.
>>
> a "wireless bridge" or an access point that supports bridging can be
> used to connect wired devices to a wireless network.
>
>
Thanks. I'll have to investigate the difference between that and a
router. I assume that the bridge would be cheaper.
>> I can't use either of those (see above) but I understand now that I can
>> run a cable from the router and just plug the other end into the
>> ethernet socket of the DVDR. But is there such a thing as a 'double
>> adapter' to use on the ethernet socket of the BP modem? If so it would
>> eliminate the need for a router.
>>
> you could try an ethernet switch there.
>
>
Except I will need to use a wireless router if I'm not going to run cable.
Superman
> Superman wrote:
>>
>> This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy ppl
>> here, but here goes..
>>
>> Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects
>> using the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable access
>> point and modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so I'm
>> wondering if there's any way to set the spare modem to the same MAC
>> address so that I can set up another internet access point?
>
> no, the mac address is like a serial number, each unit is unique, if
> you change the modem you have to inform the service provider that you
> have changed the router so they can reset the mac address to id the
> different router.
Any chance the ISP would give me two MAC addresses on the same account
without extra cost?
>
>>
>> Q2/ If that's not possible, how do I create another net access point?
>> Do I use two of these.. http://tinyurl.com/yb5ptns .. one connected
>> to the modem, and the other where I want the other access point? Or
>> else how do I do it?
>
> just use a wireless router, I use a TPlink router to which I have a
> desktop on lan, a notebook and a netbook on wireless, a ipod touch on
> wireless along with a media player on lan.
>
> all which quite happyly work together, for example I can play avi or
> mkv files from the notebook thru to the media player to watch on my
> large screen lcd tv.
>
>
cool! would a G router (the cheaper version than the N type) be able to
transmit capably a distance of 30 metres thru four rooms (plaster walls)
specifically- toilet, bedroom, bathroom, kitchen. (the transmission
would be at 90 deg to all the walls involved) And also would it cause
interference with a 2.4 Ghz video sender, or be interfered with by it,
or a 5.8 Ghz cordless phone? thanks,
David L. Jones
> On 5/01/2010 7:30 AM, Hugh Jeego wrote:
>
>>
>> "Superman" <"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
>> news:VCH%m.66372$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>> What I was actually asking is.. what equipment does the router
>>> transmit to? Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers. So
>>> what can I
>>
>> Nope. A router is a transceiver the same as radios in taxis are
>> transceivers. Routers send and receive otherwise they cant route.
>>
>>> use as the receiver if I go the wireless route? I can't use a dongle
>>> as I need to connect via an ethernet socket, and that's because I'm
>>> not wanting to connect to a computer but a DVDR.
>>
>> I assume you mean you want to connect to something like a Tivo?
>
> No, it's a DVDR that has inbuilt software for connecting to the
> internet via an ethernet socket.
>
>> If so you need to be more specific. Which one? In any case, a wi-fi
>> router is a transceiver and you WOULD need a dongle if your computer
>> isnt close to the other equipment. Alternatively, if you want to run
>> ethernet cables everywhere, you could have a router that either is or
>> isnt also wi-fi and plug the cables into it. Some routers allow more
>> than one ethernet connection.
>>
>>
>
> It seems to me this is what I have to do?..
> http://ausnet.info/pics/router.jpg
Not quite.
The PC plugs into the wireless rounter, which has multiple ethernet outputs
for just this purpose.
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> On 4/01/2010 7:31 PM, Fast Freddy wrote:
>
>> Superman wrote:
>>>
>>> This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy ppl
>>> here, but here goes..
>>>
>>> Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects
>>> using the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable access
>>> point and modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so I'm
>>> wondering if there's any way to set the spare modem to the same MAC
>>> address so that I can set up another internet access point?
>>
>> no, the mac address is like a serial number, each unit is unique, if
>> you change the modem you have to inform the service provider that you
>> have changed the router so they can reset the mac address to id the
>> different router.
>
> Any chance the ISP would give me two MAC addresses on the same account
> without extra cost?
no idea, but they probably would treat that as a separate account,
anyway you really don't need two modems unless you have someone else in
the house that wants their own account, it is not like the payTV boxes
where they can plugin another box and charge a few dollars more.
>
>>
>>>
>>> Q2/ If that's not possible, how do I create another net access point?
>>> Do I use two of these.. http://tinyurl.com/yb5ptns .. one connected
>>> to the modem, and the other where I want the other access point? Or
>>> else how do I do it?
>>
>> just use a wireless router, I use a TPlink router to which I have a
>> desktop on lan, a notebook and a netbook on wireless, a ipod touch on
>> wireless along with a media player on lan.
>>
>> all which quite happyly work together, for example I can play avi or
>> mkv files from the notebook thru to the media player to watch on my
>> large screen lcd tv.
>>
>>
>
> cool! would a G router (the cheaper version than the N type) be able to
> transmit capably a distance of 30 metres thru four rooms (plaster walls)
> specifically- toilet, bedroom, bathroom, kitchen. (the transmission
> would be at 90 deg to all the walls involved) And also would it cause
> interference with a 2.4 Ghz video sender, or be interfered with by it,
> or a 5.8 Ghz cordless phone? thanks,
>
>
well the specs say 400' (120m) for the belkin G, so no reason it
shouldn't work unless you have metal walls, check to see if the antenna
on the router screws in to it's own socket, some antennas are fixed and
cannot be removed, with the socketed type you can change the antenna to
give you more range.
2.4GHz senders, no idea, don't own one.
I have a 5.8GHz phone and it has no problems, in fact bought it in mind
of a possible 2.4GHz confliction.
the router themselves are pretty straightforward to set up, you just
login to a webpage on the router, just be sure to setup the password or
better a WPA-PSK Passphrase: in the wireless settings, you don't want
your neighbours or someone out in the street with a laptop hitching a
ride on your network.
Superman
So both the PC and the modem plug into the router. We're getting there!
> Dave.
David L. Jones
Yes, the router will have an Ethernet port labeled "Internet" or similar,
and the other Ethernet ports will be labeled 1,2,3,4 etc
I'll leave it up to you to figure out what goes where.
Rod Speed
> On 4/01/2010 7:31 PM, Fast Freddy wrote:
>
>> Superman wrote:
>>>
>>> This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy
>>> ppl here, but here goes..
>>>
>>> Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects
>>> using the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable access
>>> point and modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so I'm
>>> wondering if there's any way to set the spare modem to the same MAC
>>> address so that I can set up another internet access point?
>>
>> no, the mac address is like a serial number, each unit is unique, if
>> you change the modem you have to inform the service provider that you
>> have changed the router so they can reset the mac address to id the
>> different router.
>
> Any chance the ISP would give me two MAC addresses on the same account without extra cost?
It wouldnt work even if they did. You cant have two in use at once.
Superman
> Superman"<"the _man_of_steel wrote:
>
>> On 4/01/2010 7:31 PM, Fast Freddy wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Superman wrote:
>>>
>>>> This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy
>>>> ppl here, but here goes..
>>>>
>>>> Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects
>>>> using the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable access
>>>> point and modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so I'm
>>>> wondering if there's any way to set the spare modem to the same MAC
>>>> address so that I can set up another internet access point?
>>>>
>>> no, the mac address is like a serial number, each unit is unique, if
>>> you change the modem you have to inform the service provider that you
>>> have changed the router so they can reset the mac address to id the
>>> different router.
>>>
>> Any chance the ISP would give me two MAC addresses on the same account without extra cost?
>>
> It wouldnt work even if they did. You cant have two in use at once.
>
>
Well that cleared that up, thanks. It looks like i'm stuck with a
router/bridge option, or else running 40 metres of ethernet cable from a
switch. Either way it's not going to be cheap.
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed wrote
>> Superman"<"the _man_of_steel wrote:
>>> Fast Freddy wrote
>>>> Superman wrote
>>>>> This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy
>>>>> ppl here, but here goes..
>>>>> Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects
>>>>> using the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable
>>>>> access point and modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so
>>>>> I'm wondering if there's any way to set the spare modem to the
>>>>> same MAC address so that I can set up another internet access point?
>>>> no, the mac address is like a serial number, each unit is unique,
>>>> if you change the modem you have to inform the service provider
>>>> that you have changed the router so they can reset the mac address
>>>> to id the different router.
>>> Any chance the ISP would give me two MAC addresses on the same
>>> account without extra cost?
>> It wouldnt work even if they did. You cant have two in use at once.
> Well that cleared that up, thanks. It looks like i'm stuck with a router/bridge option, or else running 40 metres of
> ethernet cable from a switch. Either way it's not going to be cheap.
It can be. You can often pick up routers for peanuts second hand.
Even brand new routers dont cost much.
@com
"Superman" <"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
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> On 5/01/2010 5:22 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
>
>> Superman"<"the _man_of_steel wrote:
>>
>>> On 4/01/2010 7:31 PM, Fast Freddy wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Superman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This will probably seem like a dumbass question to the tech savvy
>>>>> ppl here, but here goes..
>>>>>
>>>>> Q1/ I have a Bigpond cable modem, and I believe that BP connects
>>>>> using the MAC address of the modem? I also have another cable access
>>>>> point and modem of the same kind (Motorola Surfboard), so I'm
>>>>> wondering if there's any way to set the spare modem to the same MAC
>>>>> address so that I can set up another internet access point?
>>>>>
>>>> no, the mac address is like a serial number, each unit is unique, if
>>>> you change the modem you have to inform the service provider that you
>>>> have changed the router so they can reset the mac address to id the
>>>> different router.
>>>>
>>> Any chance the ISP would give me two MAC addresses on the same account
>>> without extra cost?
>>>
>> It wouldnt work even if they did. You cant have two in use at once.
>>
>>
>
> Well that cleared that up, thanks. It looks like i'm stuck with a
> router/bridge option, or else running 40 metres of ethernet cable from a
> switch. Either way it's not going to be cheap.
>
>
>
> --
> rgds,
>
> Pete
Hi Pete
This`ll fix your problem>>
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/BELKIN-Wireless-802-11g-Router-54-Mbps-2-4GHz-New_W0QQitemZ220533789959QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Networking?hash=item3358d69507
Bought one from the same guy not long ago; easy to setup.
Has ethernet and wireless, hooks up to your cable modem
via cat5 to it`s uplink port; then shares out the internet from
either/both wireless and ethernet.
Any problems, if you go this route, I can help you set it up; in person
or online.
HTH
@com
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Just bought another one, s/hand this time for $20.
Cheap as chips!
Superman
wireless? so I can use two routers instead of a router and bridge, can't I?
Superman
Thanks! but my only concern now is the 2.4Ghz frequency stuffing up my
video sender.
Hugh Jeego
> On 5/01/2010 7:30 AM, Hugh Jeego wrote:
>
>>
>> "Superman" <"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
>> news:VCH%m.66372$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>> What I was actually asking is.. what equipment does the router transmit
>>> to? Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers. So what can I
>>
>> Nope. A router is a transceiver the same as radios in taxis are
>> transceivers. Routers send and receive otherwise they cant route.
>>
>>> use as the receiver if I go the wireless route? I can't use a dongle as
>>> I need to connect via an ethernet socket, and that's because I'm not
>>> wanting to connect to a computer but a DVDR.
>>
>> I assume you mean you want to connect to something like a Tivo?
>
> No, it's a DVDR that has inbuilt software for connecting to the internet
> via an ethernet socket.
>
I will take your word for it that it does because some dont. With some, like
Tivo, it connects to internet to get updates but if you want to network it
with computers you need to buy their software.
>> If so you need to be more specific. Which one? In any case, a wi-fi
>> router is a transceiver and you WOULD need a dongle if your computer isnt
>> close to the other equipment. Alternatively, if you want to run ethernet
>> cables everywhere, you could have a router that either is or isnt also
>> wi-fi and plug the cables into it. Some routers allow more than one
>> ethernet connection.
>>
>>
>
> It seems to me this is what I have to do?..
> http://ausnet.info/pics/router.jpg
>
> (with apologies to Rembrandt, Renoir, etc., :)
>
Nope. I remember you saying you didnt want a USB dongle in it so assume you
want to rule that out. That being the case you can simply run an ethernet
cable from the DVDR to your current modem/router, assuming of course, that
your current one can take more than one ethernet connection. Now if you dont
want to do that, yes you CAN do as you say but the one connected to the DVDR
would have to be setup as a passthrough, basically. Eg, it gets all info
from the other end such as IP address and anything to do with internet.
Before you buy, though, make sure the one you are buying can do that.
Earlier versions of some cant do that and some cant do it at all.
Hugh Jeego
Yes and no. Depends on the modem you have. If one Ethernet port then yes but
if it has more than one, no need.
Hugh Jeego
REALLY? There's quite a few peanuts in Federal Parliament! Good trade, that,
I reckon! :)
@com
"Hugh Jeego" <i...@example.com> wrote in message
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Are you sure?
@com
"Superman" <"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
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Just one at a time fido.
@com
"@com" <@here.com> wrote in message
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I got eachy balls
John.. I.m sleeping now...zzzzzzz
@com
"Hugh Jeego" <i...@example.com> wrote in message
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Quite a few kangaroos as well:) meat pies and holden cars
Rod Speed
Works fine with mine. There is so much stuff in that band that they are designed to coexist fine most of the time.
Rod Speed
> REALLY?
Yep, heaps on ebay etc.
> There's quite a few peanuts in Federal Parliament! Good trade, that, I reckon! :)
I bet the person with the router wouldnt agree |-(
@
"Superman" <"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
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Should that be a problem although doubtful, the wireless part of the
router can be switched off; as you`d be using the ethernet port anyway.
Jasen Betts
> On 3/01/2010 9:36 PM, Jasen Betts wrote:
>
>> On 2010-01-02, Superman<"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> What I was actually asking is.. what equipment does the router transmit
>>> to? Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers. So what can I
>>> use as the receiver if I go the wireless route? I can't use a dongle as
>>> I need to connect via an ethernet socket, and that's because I'm not
>>> wanting to connect to a computer but a DVDR.
>>>
>> a "wireless bridge" or an access point that supports bridging can be
>> used to connect wired devices to a wireless network.
>>
>>
>
> Thanks. I'll have to investigate the difference between that and a
> router. I assume that the bridge would be cheaper.
the main difference is the bridge puts the wired devices on the same
subnet as the wireless devices. a router would put them on a different
subnet, so the bridge is easier to set up. Last time I was buying,
bridges were more expensive even though they are simpler devices.
(probably not a large enough market)
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Superman
Thanks for your help. I have decided to go with cabling. I got 30m of
fitted cable and two wall outlets on eBay for less than $30 including
postage. I didn't know that the cable was so cheap. I had been
misinformed in that regard.
Superman
>
> "Superman" <"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
> news:Sax0n.66916$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> On 5/01/2010 7:30 AM, Hugh Jeego wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Superman" <"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
>>> news:VCH%m.66372$ze1....@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>
>>>> What I was actually asking is.. what equipment does the router
>>>> transmit to? Routers are only transmitters, right? not receivers.
>>>> So what can I
>>>
>>> Nope. A router is a transceiver the same as radios in taxis are
>>> transceivers. Routers send and receive otherwise they cant route.
>>>
>>>> use as the receiver if I go the wireless route? I can't use a
>>>> dongle as I need to connect via an ethernet socket, and that's
>>>> because I'm not wanting to connect to a computer but a DVDR.
>>>
>>> I assume you mean you want to connect to something like a Tivo?
>>
>> No, it's a DVDR that has inbuilt software for connecting to the
>> internet via an ethernet socket.
>>
>
> I will take your word for it that it does because some dont.
It's Panasonic's VieraCast system that has been around for some time,
incorporated in both their panels and DVDRs ..
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-9972024-1.html
> With some, like Tivo, it connects to internet to get updates but if
> you want to network it with computers you need to buy their software.
>
>>> If so you need to be more specific. Which one? In any case, a wi-fi
>>> router is a transceiver and you WOULD need a dongle if your computer
>>> isnt close to the other equipment. Alternatively, if you want to run
>>> ethernet cables everywhere, you could have a router that either is
>>> or isnt also wi-fi and plug the cables into it. Some routers allow
>>> more than one ethernet connection.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> It seems to me this is what I have to do?..
>> http://ausnet.info/pics/router.jpg
>>
>> (with apologies to Rembrandt, Renoir, etc., :)
>>
>
> Nope. I remember you saying you didnt want a USB dongle in it so
> assume you want to rule that out.
Yes, because the DVDR connects via an ethernet port.
> That being the case you can simply run an ethernet cable from the DVDR
> to your current modem/router,
I have decided to go with cabling. I got 30m of fitted cable and two
wall outlets on eBay for less than $30 including postage. I didn't
realize that the cable was that cheap. I had been misinformed in that
regard.
> assuming of course, that your current one can take more than one
> ethernet connection.
It doesn't but I'm getting a different kind from my ISP.
> Now if you dont want to do that, yes you CAN do as you say but the one
> connected to the DVDR would have to be setup as a passthrough,
> basically. Eg, it gets all info from the other end such as IP address
> and anything to do with internet. Before you buy, though, make sure
> the one you are buying can do that. Earlier versions of some cant do
> that and some cant do it at all.
>
Thanks for your help. Much appreciated.
Rob
>>
>
> Thanks for your help. I have decided to go with cabling. I got 30m of
> fitted cable and two wall outlets on eBay for less than $30 including
> postage. I didn't know that the cable was so cheap. I had been
> misinformed in that regard.
>
yep costing - rule of thumb $1 mtr $1ea for the plugs for made up cables.
Cable itself 50c mtr ends 50c ea
or if you find some old cable from a refitted place, thrown out - free
- and there is plenty of that about because they are using higher grades.
I have cabled my place with thrown out cable, bought ends, wall sockets
and a crimping tool etc made small conecting cables all for penuts.
Hugh Jeego
Rudd for a router......in USA they pronounce "router" sounding like "rooter"
don't they?
Could make a better slogan that Kevin07!!
Hugh Jeego
Yep. You will find motels a good example where the motel is set on a good
sized block of land. Sometimes the person in a room wanting internet through
their kiosk style setup to each room is so far away that they cant get it
wi-fi and no ethernet is supplied. To get over that, many choose the cheap
option such as having a modem/router (wi-fi) or just a wi-fi router that is
sitting around unused and placing it halfway. Of course said box is capable
of passing through and getting its IP address off the main one as they
designate it. Another example is a large company complex such as an oil
refinery. They need cars to get around the place and ethernet cable wont cut
it out their way but they still need everything to communicate at each
office. Wi-fi is often fed through repeaters in such a case but it depends
on the person installing and what sort of stock they have on hand. I have
seen them use a wi-fi ADSL router as just a repeater.
Hugh Jeego
One each end is fine if he can use ethernet from the device at the far side
to the device. He can hook it to slave off the main one, getting its IP
address from there and on passthrough or he could just manually set the IP
address for the device and router if they both have that facility.
Hugh Jeego
>
> I have decided to go with cabling. I got 30m of fitted cable and two wall
> outlets on eBay for less than $30 including postage. I didn't realize that
> the cable was that cheap. I had been misinformed in that regard.
>
There's a cabling place at http://www.4cabling.com.au/ that you may want to
have a look at. 30 metres $15.90. I use them a lot. I live a hell of a
distance away from them and postage has been, at most, $10.
Hugh Jeego
"Rob" <mesa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Superman wrote:
>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for your help. I have decided to go with cabling. I got 30m of
>> fitted cable and two wall outlets on eBay for less than $30 including
>> postage. I didn't know that the cable was so cheap. I had been
>> misinformed in that regard.
>>
>
> yep costing - rule of thumb $1 mtr $1ea for the plugs for made up cables.
>
> Cable itself 50c mtr ends 50c ea
>
>
You kidding. 30 metres with all plugs $15.90. Not sure of postage. Could be
as much as $10.
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
Rooter is the correct pronunciation. The Yanks pronounce it rowter.
> Could make a better slogan that Kevin07!!
No slogan would ever make KRudd look good.
--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.
"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.
"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.
"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.
"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.
"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.
"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.
"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.
"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude Rat at his finest again.
"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott
Superman
cheaper still on eBay from Oz or cheaper still from China!- $12.88 30m
fitted Cat5 delivered to your door!
Superman
> Hugh Jeego wrote:
>>
>> "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:7qhnkp...@mid.individual.net...
>>> Hugh Jeego wrote:
>>>
>>>> There's quite a few peanuts in Federal Parliament! Good trade,
>>>> that, I reckon! :)
>>>
>>> I bet the person with the router wouldnt agree |-(
>>
>> Rudd for a router......in USA they pronounce "router" sounding like
>> "rooter" don't they?
>
> Rooter
Is there some correlation here between this and Julia wanting a probe? :)
> is the correct pronunciation. The Yanks pronounce it rowter.
>
>> Could make a better slogan that Kevin07!!
>
> No slogan would ever make KRudd look good.
>
I suggest NO KEVIN 11!!
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
> On 8/01/2010 11:18 PM, Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote:
>
>> Hugh Jeego wrote:
>>>
>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7qhnkp...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Hugh Jeego wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There's quite a few peanuts in Federal Parliament! Good trade,
>>>>> that, I reckon! :)
>>>>
>>>> I bet the person with the router wouldnt agree |-(
>>>
>>> Rudd for a router......in USA they pronounce "router" sounding like
>>> "rooter" don't they?
>>
>> Rooter
>
> Is there some correlation here between this and Julia wanting a probe? :)
Not until now!
>> is the correct pronunciation. The Yanks pronounce it rowter.
>>
>>> Could make a better slogan that Kevin07!!
>>
>> No slogan would ever make KRudd look good.
>
> I suggest NO KEVIN 11!!
SOLD!
Hugh Jeego
> On 8/01/2010 11:10 PM, Hugh Jeego wrote:
>
>>
>> "Rob" <mesa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:hi75je$e4r$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Superman wrote:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help. I have decided to go with cabling. I got 30m of
>>>> fitted cable and two wall outlets on eBay for less than $30 including
>>>> postage. I didn't know that the cable was so cheap. I had been
>>>> misinformed in that regard.
>>>>
>>>
>>> yep costing - rule of thumb $1 mtr $1ea for the plugs for made up
>>> cables.
>>>
>>> Cable itself 50c mtr ends 50c ea
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You kidding. 30 metres with all plugs $15.90. Not sure of postage. Could
>> be as much as $10.
>>
>> http://www.4cabling.com.au/
>>
>
> cheaper still on eBay from Oz or cheaper still from China!- $12.88 30m
> fitted Cat5 delivered to your door!
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ebay-cat5
>
Not sure I would want to buy from China to be honest. On the other hand
4cabling get it to you the next business day if you order before midday and
to your door, too. In my case, to my PO box.
Hugh Jeego
" Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF " <""noujwas\"@yahoo.com is a stupid
muzzie troll ."> wrote in message
news:00d0a789$0$15577$c3e...@news.astraweb.com...
Not in Australia. You live in Victoria, right? Bloody foreigners! :)
>> Could make a better slogan that Kevin07!!
>
> No slogan would ever make KRudd look good.
>
I dunno about that. I wouldn't mind seeing "Kick Me" on his back,
personally.
Hugh Jeego
> On 8/01/2010 11:18 PM, Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote:
>
>> Hugh Jeego wrote:
>>>
>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:7qhnkp...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Hugh Jeego wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There's quite a few peanuts in Federal Parliament! Good trade, that, I
>>>>> reckon! :)
>>>>
>>>> I bet the person with the router wouldnt agree |-(
>>>
>>> Rudd for a router......in USA they pronounce "router" sounding like
>>> "rooter" don't they?
>>
>> Rooter
>
> Is there some correlation here between this and Julia wanting a probe? :)
>
>> is the correct pronunciation. The Yanks pronounce it rowter.
>>
>>> Could make a better slogan that Kevin07!!
>>
>> No slogan would ever make KRudd look good.
>>
>
> I suggest NO KEVIN 11!!
>
The Pope and Kevin Rudd were sitting at a Rugby League Grand Final in NSW
together watching the game when a try was scored and the crowd cheered
wildly. The Pope turns to Kevin and says "I could make all these people
cheer with more feeling in their hearts with a wave of my heart AND they
would not just remember it for a short time but for all their lives. Their
grandchildren would also read about it in history and I would be revered
forever in Australia for it." and Kevin looks at the Pope and says
"Bullshit. Prove it." so the Pope backhands the bastard.
Hugh Jeego
a long time back, it was in honour of American unionists. It is
intentionally spelled that way.
" Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF " <""noujwas\"@yahoo.com is a stupid
muzzie troll ."> wrote in message
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Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
>
> " Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF " <"nou...@yahoo.com is a stupid
Nope, as my name implies, I live in NSW. A lot of people pronounce it rowter
here as well. A friend of mine doesn't though. But it was an Englishman in the
USA who reminded me of the correct pronunciation.
>>> Could make a better slogan that Kevin07!!
>>
>> No slogan would ever make KRudd look good.
>
> I dunno about that. I wouldn't mind seeing "Kick Me" on his back,
> personally.
LOL!
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
> One small correction. The LABOR party in Australia is spelled LABOR
> because, a long time back, it was in honour of American unionists. It is
> intentionally spelled that way.
It used to Labour. I prefer the correct spelling. It seems to annoy the labour
stooges no end.
Zappy
> "Superman" <"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
>
> news:kDF1n.74$pv...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>
>
> > On 8/01/2010 11:18 PM, Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF > wrote:
>
> >> Hugh Jeego wrote:
>
> >>>news:7qhnkp...@mid.individual.net...
> >>>> Hugh Jeego wrote:
>
> >>>>> There's quite a few peanuts in Federal Parliament! Good trade, that, I
> >>>>> reckon! :)
>
> >>>> I bet the person with the router wouldnt agree |-(
>
> >>> Rudd for a router......in USA they pronounce "router" sounding like
> >>> "rooter" don't they?
>
> >> Rooter
>
> > Is there some correlation here between this and Julia wanting a probe? :)
>
> >> is the correct pronunciation. The Yanks pronounce it rowter.
>
> >>> Could make a better slogan that Kevin07!!
>
> >> No slogan would ever make KRudd look good.
>
> > I suggest NO KEVIN 11!!
>
> The Pope and Kevin Rudd were sitting at a Rugby League Grand Final in NSW
> together watching the game when a try was scored and the crowd cheered
> wildly. The Pope turns to Kevin and says "I could make all these people
> cheer with more feeling in their hearts with a wave of my heart AND they
> would not just remember it for a short time but for all their lives. Their
> grandchildren would also read about it in history and I would be revered
> forever in Australia for it." and Kevin looks at the Pope and says
> "Bullshit. Prove it." so the Pope backhands the bastard.
Which Pope?
Zappy
> One small correction. The LABOR party in Australia is spelled LABOR because,
> a long time back, it was in honour of American unionists. It is
> intentionally spelled that way.
Ah, that's not right.
The Australian Labour Party is one of the oldest Labor parties in the
world.
The spelling was changed in the seventies.
Superman
The cable they sell is probably made in China!
Rod Speed
Yep, and we say fucker.
> Could make a better slogan that Kevin07!!
Wouldnt be hard.
Rod Speed
Nope, they say rooter. Its even more hilarious with printed circuit board rooters.
Hugh Jeego
" Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF " <""noujwas\"@yahoo.com is a stupid
muzzie troll ."> wrote in message
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Hugh Jeego
Check out their official site at http://www.alp.org.au/
"Zappy" <ke...@zappy.com.au> wrote in message
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Hugh Jeego
know but correct anyway. :)
"Dyna Soar" <dynasoar..REMOVE..THIS..@ozdebate.com> wrote in message
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> Bullshit... It has been officially called the Labor Party since 1912.
>
> From the ALP website...
> http://www.alp.org.au/about/history.php
>
> "During the early years of the ALP, the Party was referred to by various
> titles differing from colony to colony. It was at the 1908 Interstate
> (federal) Conference that the name 'Australian Labour Party' was adopted.
> In its shortened form the Party was frequently referred to as both 'Labor'
> and 'Labour', however the former spelling was adopted from 1912 onwards,
> due to the influence of the American labor movement."
>
> --
> Dyna
>
> All rights reserved. All wrongs avenged.
>
Hugh Jeego
Which Pope?
The washing machine guy.
Rod Speed
> "Superman" <"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
> news:pyF1n.73$pv...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> On 8/01/2010 11:10 PM, Hugh Jeego wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Rob" <mesa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hi75je$e4r$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Superman wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for your help. I have decided to go with cabling. I got
>>>>> 30m of fitted cable and two wall outlets on eBay for less than
>>>>> $30 including postage. I didn't know that the cable was so cheap.
>>>>> I had been misinformed in that regard.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yep costing - rule of thumb $1 mtr $1ea for the plugs for made up
>>>> cables.
>>>>
>>>> Cable itself 50c mtr ends 50c ea
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> You kidding. 30 metres with all plugs $15.90. Not sure of postage.
>>> Could be as much as $10.
>>>
>>> http://www.4cabling.com.au/
>>>
>>
>> cheaper still on eBay from Oz or cheaper still from China!- $12.88
>> 30m fitted Cat5 delivered to your door!
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/ebay-cat5
>>
>
> Not sure I would want to buy from China to be honest.
I do it all the time.
I got some very decent nail clippers for literally 1c plus minimal postage.
When it arrived and the jaws didnt close in parallel, I told them that, expecting
to be told to drop dead. Got another very quickly for no extra charge and its fine.
Hugh Jeego
> On 8/01/2010 11:52 PM, Hugh Jeego wrote:
>
>>
>> "Superman" <"the _man_of_steel"@metropolis.com> wrote in message
>> news:pyF1n.73$pv...@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> On 8/01/2010 11:10 PM, Hugh Jeego wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rob" <mesa...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hi75je$e4r$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> Superman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for your help. I have decided to go with cabling. I got 30m of
>>>>>> fitted cable and two wall outlets on eBay for less than $30 including
>>>>>> postage. I didn't know that the cable was so cheap. I had been
>>>>>> misinformed in that regard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> yep costing - rule of thumb $1 mtr $1ea for the plugs for made up
>>>>> cables.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cable itself 50c mtr ends 50c ea
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You kidding. 30 metres with all plugs $15.90. Not sure of postage.
>>>> Could be as much as $10.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.4cabling.com.au/
>>>>
>>>
>>> cheaper still on eBay from Oz or cheaper still from China!- $12.88 30m
>>> fitted Cat5 delivered to your door!
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/ebay-cat5
>>>
>>
>> Not sure I would want to buy from China to be honest. On the other hand
>> 4cabling get it to you the next business day if you order before midday
>> and to your door, too. In my case, to my PO box.
>>
>
> The cable they sell is probably made in China!
>
Yep. Probably but THEY take the risks and I deal with someone who, if the
stuff me around, are bound by Aussie laws of trade.
Hugh Jeego
Whatever way you say it doesnt matter. It all comes out sounding like RUDD
to me. You know how they say everything tastes like chicken? Well all shit
smells like Rudd to me.
>> Could make a better slogan that Kevin07!!
>
> Wouldnt be hard.
>
Oh - you didn't know? It will be Kevin11 next year. All we need is a Ben 10,
now!
Hugh Jeego
Always reminds me that on their TV shows and movies, there comes a time when
some sexy looking female says to some guy who is the underdog "I'm gonna
root for you!" and I keep wondering why she would do a dirty trick like
that? Why didnt she root WITH him? Maybe she's gonna send him the pics?
Rod Speed
> One small correction. The LABOR party in Australia is spelled LABOR
Yes.
> because, a long time back, it was in honour of American unionists.
Nope.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALP#Etymology
OMalley was a yank.
> It is intentionally spelled that way.
Yes.
Rod Speed
> Hugh Jeego <i...@example.com> wrote
>> One small correction. The LABOR party in Australia is spelled LABOR
>> because, a long time back, it was in honour of American unionists.
>> It is intentionally spelled that way.
> Ah, that's not right.
You are correct on the american unionists claim.
> The Australian Labour Party is one of the oldest Labor parties in the world.
Yes.
> The spelling was changed in the seventies.
Nope.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALP#Etymology
Rod Speed
> It used to be Labour sometime before the 1930s.
In fact both forms were used right from the start.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALP#Etymology
Rod Speed
Anything is possible with yanks.
Superman
Most of what we buy here is made in China anyway, so no prob with
getting direct and saving the middlemen/persons.
Superman
I think you'll find that most Chinese sellers are keen to keep/make you
happy. They need the business! It's kinda hard to make a living over
there. I've bought all kinds of stuff- mobile phone accessories,
bluetooth, etc., you'll save heaps! Just need to make sure they
guarantee they're selling genuine products, not knock offs, and as I
said, they value their reputation, so if they do guarantee that, you're
pretty safe dealing with them.
Superman
> Hugh Jeego wrote:
>
>> "Rod Speed"<rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:7qqbmd...@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF wrote
>>>
>>>> Hugh Jeego wrote
>>>>
>>>>> Rudd for a router......in USA they pronounce "router" sounding like
>>>>> "rooter" don't they?
>>>>>
>>>> Rooter is the correct pronunciation. The Yanks pronounce it rowter.
>>>>
>>> Nope, they say rooter. Its even more hilarious with printed circuit
>>> board rooters.
>>>
>>>
>> Always reminds me that on their TV shows and movies, there comes a
>> time when some sexy looking female says to some guy who is the
>> underdog "I'm gonna root for you!" and I keep wondering why she would
>> do a dirty trick like that? Why didnt she root WITH him? Maybe she's
>> gonna send him the pics?
>>
> Anything is possible with yanks.
>
>
>
What annoys me is that we copy their words or way of saying things. eg
bushires > wildfires, PRO-gress > PROG-ress, etc.,
Rod Speed
>>>>>>> Thanks for your help. I have decided to go with cabling. I got
>>>>>>> 30m of fitted cable and two wall outlets on eBay for less than
>>>>>>> $30 including postage. I didn't know that the cable was so
>>>>>>> cheap. I had been misinformed in that regard.
>>>>>> yep costing - rule of thumb $1 mtr $1ea for the plugs for made up cables.
>>>>>> Cable itself 50c mtr ends 50c ea
>>>>> You kidding. 30 metres with all plugs $15.90. Not sure of postage.
>>>>> Could be as much as $10.
>>>>> http://www.4cabling.com.au/
>>>> cheaper still on eBay from Oz or cheaper still from China!- $12.88
>>>> 30m fitted Cat5 delivered to your door!
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ebay-cat5
>>> Not sure I would want to buy from China to be honest.
>> I do it all the time.
>> I got some very decent nail clippers for literally 1c plus minimal postage.
>> When it arrived and the jaws didnt close in parallel, I told them
>> that, expecting to be told to drop dead. Got another very quickly
>> for no extra charge and its fine.
> Most of what we buy here is made in China anyway, so no prob with getting direct and saving the middlemen/persons.
Yep, and with stuff that much cheaper by cutting out the middle man, I dont
care about being able in theory to fuck them over in the small claims court etc.
Thats never going to fly with stuff that costs $30.
Rod Speed
>>>>> Hugh Jeego wrote
>>>>>> Rudd for a router......in USA they pronounce "router" sounding like "rooter" don't they?
>>>>> Rooter is the correct pronunciation. The Yanks pronounce it rowter.
>>>> Nope, they say rooter. Its even more hilarious with printed circuit board rooters.
>>> Always reminds me that on their TV shows and movies, there comes a time when some sexy looking female says to some
>>> guy who is the
>>> underdog "I'm gonna root for you!" and I keep wondering why she
>>> would do a dirty trick like that? Why didnt she root WITH him?
>>> Maybe she's gonna send him the pics?
>> Anything is possible with yanks.
> What annoys me is that we copy their words or way of saying things. eg bushires > wildfires, PRO-gress > PROG-ress,
> etc.,
Sure, with airfield and airport etc too.
The Labor Party has called themselves that officially since 1912.
Corse they did save our bacon in WW2.
Zappy
> Hugh Jeego wrote
>
> > It used to be Labour sometime before the 1930s.
>
Of course they were Rod.
Zappy
Not Pope Kraut shirley?
Hugh Jeego
Not Pope Kraut shirley?
OK so you are expecting this line, then....wont disappoint....
Nope.....and DON'T call me "Shirley"!!
Better? :)
Hugh Jeego
Such as Chinese burns you say? :)
Hugh Jeego
Who were the first to win against the Japanese in WW2? Aussies!
Rod Speed
> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>> Superman" <"the _man_of_steel wrote
>>> Rod Speed wrote
>>>> Hugh Jeego wrote
>>>>> Rod Speed <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF wrote
>>>>>>> Hugh Jeego wrote
>>>>>>>> Rudd for a router......in USA they pronounce "router" sounding like "rooter" don't they?
>>>>>>> Rooter is the correct pronunciation. The Yanks pronounce it rowter.
>>>>>> Nope, they say rooter. Its even more hilarious with printed circuit board rooters.
>>>>> Always reminds me that on their TV shows and movies, there comes
>>>>> a time when some sexy looking female says to some guy who is the
>>>>> underdog "I'm gonna root for you!" and I keep wondering why she
>>>>> would do a dirty trick like that? Why didnt she root WITH him?
>>>>> Maybe she's gonna send him the pics?
>>>> Anything is possible with yanks.
>>> What annoys me is that we copy their words or way of saying things. eg bushires > wildfires, PRO-gress > PROG-ress,
>>> etc.,
>> Sure, with airfield and airport etc too.
>> The Labor Party has called themselves that officially since 1912.
>> Corse they did save our bacon in WW2.
> Who were the first to win against the Japanese in WW2? Aussies!
Wouldnt have happened without the yanks.
In spades with fixing the problem with japan permanently after that.
Colin
"Rod Speed" <rod.sp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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And them + US controlling the world forever after that (sad)
Old saying..what goes around comes around!
Rod Speed
Try telling that to china. Dont be too surprised when they just laugh in your face.
> Old saying..what goes around comes around!
Its a steaming turd, like all old sayings.
Hugh Jeego
"Colin" <colma...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Isn't that an old STDs joke? :)