I've had Warp 4 GA for about a week now, and it's driving me up the wall.
First, the machine: 486SX33, 20Mb RAM, 1G EIDE disk, ET4000/W32i video card, ATAPI CD-ROM, SoundGalaxy "Washington" 16 soundcard. Has been running Warp 3.0 and Linux just fine for quite a while.
I had to let it reformat the boot partition, as it didn't recognize the FAT filesystem on it (which, incidentally, Novell DOS 7.0 and Warp 3.0 had had no problems with at all). This was annoying, but not fatal.
However, it now locks up randomly. Complete lockup - no errors, no way out beyond resetting the machine. At first I thought it might have been the OD demo from the Sampler CD, so I removed that. Problem still occurs. So I remove the ext2fs drivers (which were fine under 3.0). Still no fix. Remove the XFree86 support driver, and still no fix.
By this stage there's nothing funny installed anymore. Only the Warp 4 base, and TCP/IP (no NIC, just SLIP/PPP).
There doesn't seem to be any common denominator in all of this - sometimes it happens while I'm using Kermit in fullscreen to telnet out, sometimes it happens while doing stuff on the desktop, sometimes while starting a fullscreen session, and the last time but one it was when running a REXX script in a windowed OS/2 command session.
There are also some video problems (icons and window decorations corrupted sometimes), but those I can live with if need be. The lockups are a different matter.
I'm extremely dissappointed so far - this is not the kind of behaviour that I expect from OS/2. The hardware is fine - everything else I've run on this machine runs just fine (OS/2 2.1x and 3.0, Linux 1.2.x and 2.0.x, NTWS4b2, W95, and assorted apps), so it looks rather like there's a nasty bug in there somewhere...
Anyone else had a similar experience and found the cause of the problem? I quite like the enhancements made in 4.0, so I'd like to be able to use it with confidence that it isn't going to crash on me.
-- Matt McLeod "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses." System Administrator - Sir Humphrey Appleby Hunter Network Association KDE: http://www.zws.com/kde/
> I've had Warp 4 GA for about a week now, and it's driving me up the wall.
> First, the machine: 486SX33, 20Mb RAM, 1G EIDE disk, ET4000/W32i video > card, ATAPI CD-ROM, SoundGalaxy "Washington" 16 soundcard. Has been running > Warp 3.0 and Linux just fine for quite a while.
> I had to let it reformat the boot partition, as it didn't recognize the FAT > filesystem on it (which, incidentally, Novell DOS 7.0 and Warp 3.0 had had > no problems with at all). This was annoying, but not fatal.
> However, it now locks up randomly. Complete lockup - no errors, no way out > beyond resetting the machine. At first I thought it might have been the OD > demo from the Sampler CD, so I removed that. Problem still occurs. So I > remove the ext2fs drivers (which were fine under 3.0). Still no fix. > Remove the XFree86 support driver, and still no fix.
> By this stage there's nothing funny installed anymore. Only the Warp 4 > base, and TCP/IP (no NIC, just SLIP/PPP).
> There doesn't seem to be any common denominator in all of this - sometimes > it happens while I'm using Kermit in fullscreen to telnet out, sometimes it > happens while doing stuff on the desktop, sometimes while starting a > fullscreen session, and the last time but one it was when running a REXX > script in a windowed OS/2 command session.
> There are also some video problems (icons and window decorations corrupted > sometimes), but those I can live with if need be. The lockups are a > different matter.
> I'm extremely dissappointed so far - this is not the kind of behaviour that > I expect from OS/2. The hardware is fine - everything else I've run on this > machine runs just fine (OS/2 2.1x and 3.0, Linux 1.2.x and 2.0.x, NTWS4b2, > W95, and assorted apps), so it looks rather like there's a nasty bug in > there somewhere...
> Anyone else had a similar experience and found the cause of the problem? I > quite like the enhancements made in 4.0, so I'd like to be able to use it > with confidence that it isn't going to crash on me.
> -- > Matt McLeod "Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses." > System Administrator - Sir Humphrey Appleby > Hunter Network Association KDE: http://www.zws.com/kde/
________________________________________________________________________ Matthew Hyne - Research Engineer (Radio Systems) CSIRO - Division of Telecommunications and Industrial Physics Cnr Vimera & Pembroke Roads, Marsfield NSW, Australia
: On 10 Nov 1996, Matt McLeod wrote: : : Both my machine at work and my machine at home have been running OS/2 Warp : 4.0 for over 2 Weeks continuously without a single lockup. : : I call that VERY STABLE - you might want to try changing your video : drivers.
Tried that, and now I'm in even deeper trouble. :(
I switched from the ET4000/W32i drivers to teh ET4000 drivers (using selective install). Rebooted, but now there's no simple way to set the refresh rate (I usually run at 640x480 at 72Hz. Under Warp 3 the ET4000 drivers let you change the refresh rate from the System object in the System Setup folder. Not so in 4.0).
And now DOS sessions have stopped working - I'd usually just open up a fullscreen DOS session, run VMODE.COM to change the refresh rate, then run SVGA ON to let PM know about the new settings then reboot. Instead, I get the dialog telling me that the program file can't be found, and attempting to run COMMAND.COM from an OS/2 prompt gets me an out of memory error.
So I use dual-boot to get to DOS, do the VMODE/SVGA thing, reboot, and no change at all. SVGA did update my SVGADATA.PMI file, so that isn't the problem.
At any rate, the lockups are still occuring. I'm just lucky I left a functional (if rather stripped-down) Linux system on this box when I installed Warp 4.0.
So I'm not at all impressed with 4.0. There actually seems to have been some functionality *lost* since 3.0 (refresh rates settable in the System notebook).
You might try switching to bog stock VGA (IBM VGA) and trying that. If it works, then it looks like you're out of luck with Warp 4 and the Tseng Labs :( At least till they update their drivers.
>I switched from the ET4000/W32i drivers to teh ET4000 drivers (using >selective install). Rebooted, but now there's no simple way to set the >refresh rate (I usually run at 640x480 at 72Hz. Under Warp 3 the ET4000 >drivers let you change the refresh rate from the System object in >the System Setup folder. Not so in 4.0). >And now DOS sessions have stopped working - I'd usually just open up >a fullscreen DOS session, run VMODE.COM to change the refresh rate, >then run SVGA ON to let PM know about the new settings then reboot. >Instead, I get the dialog telling me that the program file can't be >found, and attempting to run COMMAND.COM from an OS/2 prompt gets >me an out of memory error. >So I use dual-boot to get to DOS, do the VMODE/SVGA thing, reboot, >and no change at all. SVGA did update my SVGADATA.PMI file, so >that isn't the problem. >At any rate, the lockups are still occuring. I'm just lucky I left >a functional (if rather stripped-down) Linux system on this box when >I installed Warp 4.0. >So I'm not at all impressed with 4.0. There actually seems to have been >some functionality *lost* since 3.0 (refresh rates settable in the >System notebook). >Matt
>I switched from the ET4000/W32i drivers to teh ET4000 drivers (using >selective install). Rebooted, but now there's no simple way to set the >refresh rate (I usually run at 640x480 at 72Hz. Under Warp 3 the ET4000 >drivers let you change the refresh rate from the System object in >the System Setup folder. Not so in 4.0). >And now DOS sessions have stopped working - I'd usually just open up >a fullscreen DOS session, run VMODE.COM to change the refresh rate, >then run SVGA ON to let PM know about the new settings then reboot. >Instead, I get the dialog telling me that the program file can't be >found, and attempting to run COMMAND.COM from an OS/2 prompt gets >me an out of memory error.
I had this problem recently with Warp 3 (odd crashes, SYS0008 when trying to start DOS sessions), and tracked it down to the presence of DEVICE=VDSK.SYS in the config.sys file. I also noticed that my SWAPPER.DAT was considerably smaller than usual. Perhaps installing the new driver changed CONFIG.SYS somehow.
In <566tmp$...@seagoon.newcastle.edu.au>, ou...@alinga.newcastle.edu.au (MCLEOD M J) writes:
>I switched from the ET4000/W32i drivers to teh ET4000 drivers (using >selective install). Rebooted, but now there's no simple way to set the >refresh rate (I usually run at 640x480 at 72Hz. Under Warp 3 the ET4000 >drivers let you change the refresh rate from the System object in >the System Setup folder. Not so in 4.0).
I'm using the drivers from the file tsengw32.zip from Hobbes, and these seem to run, albeit with a few hitches. Without using these, I could only get it to run in 640x480x16 mode (yuck!), but now I have it running in 1024x768x256 mode, though not at the refresh rate I'd like because the screen set up doesn't seem to work properly any more. Still, I'd rather endure a tiny amount of flicker than 640x480x16 mode.
I'm just crossing my fingers that some new Tseng drivers appear soon...
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