Nanna Bligh targets motorcyclists
Albm&ctd
Read it and weep :)
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,26078512-3102,00.html
Al
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George W Frost
"Albm&ctd" <alb_mand...@connexus.net.au> wrote in message
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Yes, and what a load of crap with this sentence:
"Some really irresponsible motorcyclists as they go through a speed camera
will even reach back and put their hand over the number plate so the
motorcycle can't be photographed,"
Police Commissioner Bob Atkinson said.
How the fuck anyone can ride at speed and place their hand over the rear
number plate.
Try it and see how far back you can reach while keeping control of the bike
But, first try it while you are stationary
I have seen a photo of a rider placing his foot over the plate, but not one
of anyones hand
This copper is a legend in his own lunchbox
hippo
>
>
> "Albm&ctd" <alb_mand...@connexus.net.au> wrote in message
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> >
> > Read it and weep :)
> >
> > Al
> > --
> > I don't take sides.
> > It's more fun to insult everyone.
>
> Yes, and what a load of crap with this sentence:
>
> "Some really irresponsible motorcyclists as they go through a speed camera
> will even reach back and put their hand over the number plate so the
> motorcycle can't be photographed,"
> Police Commissioner Bob Atkinson said.
>
> How the fuck anyone can ride at speed and place their hand over the rear
> number plate.
> Try it and see how far back you can reach while keeping control of the bike
> But, first try it while you are stationary
> I have seen a photo of a rider placing his foot over the plate, but not one
> of anyones hand
> This copper is a legend in his own lunchbox
>
>
>
>
This was in Sydney and it *is* The Australian, but still....
"Last year, New South Wales police arrested a motorcyclist who allegedly
sped past police cameras near the Spit Bridge in Sydney more than 2000
times while covering his rear number plate with his hand to avoid
detection."
Link to the article follows:
http://fat.ly/5naar
But I did laugh at these 2 paras in the OP's article:
"In Queensland, motorcyclists are only required to wear a helmet when
riding and Mr Atkinson said imposing minimum standards of dress could be
impractical.
"We could enforce it and we would enforce it (if minimum standards were
introduced) but heat is an issue in Queensland, particularly in the
state's far north," Mr Atkinson said."
.. not to mention the amount of zinc cream you'd need.... :)
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John_H
>
>Read it and weep :)
>http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,26078512-3102,00.html
Policeman Bob makes even better reading....
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,26389600-3102,00.html
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John H
John_H
>"Albm&ctd" <alb_mand...@connexus.net.au> wrote in message
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>>
>> Read it and weep :)
>> http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,26078512-3102,00.html
>
>
>"Some really irresponsible motorcyclists as they go through a speed camera
>will even reach back and put their hand over the number plate so the
>motorcycle can't be photographed,"
> Police Commissioner Bob Atkinson said.
>
>How the fuck anyone can ride at speed and place their hand over the rear
>number plate.
>Try it and see how far back you can reach while keeping control of the bike
>But, first try it while you are stationary
>I have seen a photo of a rider placing his foot over the plate, but not one
>of anyones hand
>This copper is a legend in his own lunchbox
Recent ramblings indicate an advanced state of senility... they should
retire the silly old fucker! :)
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John H
Albm&ctd
says...
somehow puts ones hand over the numberplate at speed. It renders the motorcycle
invisible or maybe a vampire thing happens.
If this is not the case then they must show us the photos of so many
motorcyclists doing this to convince us this is so common that it requires what
they propose.
The *Peter principle* applies to the old cop. Thanks Toby for the link to that,
some time back.
Hopefully everyone has read that link, where people are promoted to a point
where they become incompetent. And to think.. I voted for this government.
Albm&ctd
says...
> http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,26389600-3102,00.html
>
Interesting and I quote:
"We make no apologies for using them. Driving too fast for the road conditions
is the single largest causal factor in death and injury crashes around the
world."
That sounds like people are adhering to a speed limit rather that slowing to
below that, ie: making a decision to slow down when conditions deteriorate.
The speed limit is portrayed as SAFE!! Whose FUCK*NG FAULT is that.
George W Frost
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I laughed at this report
think about it
how many days would it have taken for the bike rider to go past the same
camera 2000 times
How long do you think it would take the traffic department before they told
the coppers
and how long would they take before they gelled to the fact that the bike
rider was a potential hazard?
Come on....2000 times ???
Jeßus
george...@gmail.com said...
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:"Albm&ctd" <alb_mand...@connexus.net.au> wrote in message
:news:MPG.25761c975...@news.eternal-september.org...
:How the fuck anyone can ride at speed and place their hand over the rear
:Try it and see how far back you can reach while keeping control of the bike
:But, first try it while you are stationary
:
:I have seen a photo of a rider placing his foot over the plate, but not one
:of anyones hand
Like this: http://members.iinet.net.au/~macromrt/speed/Radar_Boot.jpg
Jeßus
alb_mand...@connexus.net.au said...
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:In article <157ng5dva7v23bfd2...@4ax.com>, john...@inbox.com
:> George W Frost wrote:
:> >"Albm&ctd" <alb_mand...@connexus.net.au> wrote in message
:> >news:MPG.25761c975...@news.eternal-september.org...
:> >>
:> >> Read it and weep :)
:> >> http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,26078512-3102,00.html
:> >
:> >Yes, and what a load of crap with this sentence:
:> >
:> >"Some really irresponsible motorcyclists as they go through a speed camera
:> >will even reach back and put their hand over the number plate so the
:> >motorcycle can't be photographed,"
:> > Police Commissioner Bob Atkinson said.
:> >
:> >How the fuck anyone can ride at speed and place their hand over the rear
:> >number plate.
:> >Try it and see how far back you can reach while keeping control of the bike
:> >But, first try it while you are stationary
:> >I have seen a photo of a rider placing his foot over the plate, but not one
:> >of anyones hand
:> >This copper is a legend in his own lunchbox
:>
:> Recent ramblings indicate an advanced state of senility... they should
:> retire the silly old fucker! :)
:>
:Also if you read carefully, the entire motorcycle can not be photographed if one
:somehow puts ones hand over the numberplate at speed. It renders the motorcycle
:invisible or maybe a vampire thing happens.
Sounds like the same phenomenon as the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of
Traal - a creature that is so mind-bogglingly stupid, it assumes that if
you can't see it, then it can't see you.
George W Frost
"Je�us" <no...@all.org> wrote in message
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Yep, that's the one I was referring to
John_H
>
>The *Peter principle* applies to the old cop. Thanks Toby for the link to that,
>some time back.
>Hopefully everyone has read that link, where people are promoted to a point
>where they become incompetent.
The Peter Principle probably applied when Policeman Bob was first
appointed but there's been a considerable deterioration since then!
If you don't mind risking police harassment, or even a visit from a
swat team, you could write to Police Minister Roberts and ask if Bob's
been misquoted by the media, or whether he really does have a reason
to believe the nonsense that's been attributed to him.
Whatever else you might say don't mention baseball bats, lest the swat
team shoot first! :)
>And to think.. I voted for this government.
There is only one way to vote.... greens last, ruling party candidate
second to last, opposition party candidate next... ratbag least likely
to win, number one.
Do not you throw away your preferential vote and don't, whatever you
do, let either of the main contenders collect their dollar for your
vote! :)
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CatharticF1
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>
> Read it and weep :)
> http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,26078512-3102,00.html
Good.
Motorcyclists have been left behind by road rules.
1. If someone invented a motorcycle today it would never pass crash tests.
The safety aspect is appalling. Why can't I use a kart without a seat belt?
2. The no-front-plate is a little convenient to still be pushing. It could
be incorporated into the design. It just _isn't_.
3. They are selective lane sharers, blocking when it suits, then passing on
the left and queuing in front of cars at the lights.
4. It is considered culturally acceptable for bikes to do any speed. Why?
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CatharticF1
"What you thought was freedom is just greed."
George W Frost
"CatharticF1" <rasf1...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Albm&ctd <alb_mand...@connexus.net.au> wrote in
> news:MPG.25761c975...@news.eternal-september.org:
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>>
>> Read it and weep :)
>> http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,26078512-3102,00.html
>
> Good.
>
> Motorcyclists have been left behind by road rules.
>
> 1. If someone invented a motorcycle today it would never pass crash tests.
> The safety aspect is appalling. Why can't I use a kart without a seat
> belt?
We are talking about two wheeled vehicles, which would be impracticable to
install seat belts
Karts are different things, they are classed as recreational vehicles and as
well all know, recreational vehicles such as karts, are usually driven by
irresponsible idiots who drive them wherever they can, doesnt matter if
people are sitting on the beach just under the dune where they are about to
drive over the top.
> 2. The no-front-plate is a little convenient to still be pushing. It could
> be incorporated into the design. It just _isn't_.
Okay smart-arse, design a front number plate for ALL types of motorcycles
which would not get in the way of slicing up pedestrians, interrupt the
actions of the front forks and interfere with the design construction of the
stability of the entire motorcycle
> 3. They are selective lane sharers, blocking when it suits, then passing
> on
> the left and queuing in front of cars at the lights.
Ummm....I can see heaps of jealousy creeping in here
Sharing lanes helps in easing the road congestion
Passing on the left, because the law says you can
lane splitting to queue in front at the lights is also legal
Yes, heaps and heaps of jealousy
> 4. It is considered culturally acceptable for bikes to do any speed. Why?
>
>
Maybe because you think it is culturally acceptable for you to go slow in
your Datsun 120Y
and they are only trying to get out of your way.
Jeßus
rasf1...@gmail.com said...
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:Albm&ctd <alb_mand...@connexus.net.au> wrote in
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:>
:> Read it and weep :)
:> http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,26078512-3102,00.html
:
:Good.
:
:Motorcyclists have been left behind by road rules.
:
:1. If someone invented a motorcycle today it would never pass crash tests.
:The safety aspect is appalling.
So fucking what? Jesus Christ, what is wrong with people these days.
hippo
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> Albm&ctd <alb_mand...@connexus.net.au> wrote in
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> >
> > Read it and weep :)
> Good.
>
> Motorcyclists have been left behind by road rules.
>
> 1. If someone invented a motorcycle today it would never pass crash tests.
> The safety aspect is appalling. Why can't I use a kart without a seat belt?
> 2. The no-front-plate is a little convenient to still be pushing. It could
> be incorporated into the design. It just _isn't_.
> 3. They are selective lane sharers, blocking when it suits, then passing on
> the left and queuing in front of cars at the lights.
> 4. It is considered culturally acceptable for bikes to do any speed. Why?
>
>
No we haven't. We're subject to the bulk of those that apply to other road
users, plus some others unique to bikes. Please explain.
1. If God recreated the world today, the OH&S brigade would ban mountains
and cliffs, the greens would attempt to sanction carnivores, Al Gore would
seek to have the atmosphere repealed as a threat in the face of
significant evidence to the contrary because it contains CO2 and some
efficiency team would try to have the oceans rescinded because they're far
too big and they waste water.
2. You appear not to understand the problem.
3. So are many other things that *do* significantly impede the flow of
traffic. Bikes generally don't unless they break down of fall over.
4. No it isn't, but if it was, by whom? Mind you, I still travel at what I
consider an apppropriate speed for the conditions and the safety of both
myself and other road users. That will generally be either slightly higher
or lower than the prevailing speed to prevent my becoming ignored as a
stationary part of the scenery. Cheers
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Albm&ctd
Must have been some time ago.
Albm&ctd
rasf1...@gmail.com says...
> Good.
>
> Motorcyclists have been left behind by road rules.
>
increasing infrastructure to accommodate them. I've even seen 2 lanes reduced to
one plus a bike lane. They contribute nothing to the cost of roads via
registration. I don't say there isn't a suicidal element amongst some
motorcyclist either. See the bigger picture for all road users, if you can.
George W Frost
Think it was some time ago, but someone who knows the hieroglyphics of the
camera photo can tell for sure
George W Frost
In the little village where I live, there used to be a main road through the
town, made up of parking lane either side and a four lane road for through
traffic and traffic flow was good, not fast mind you, but there were no
hold-ups.
Then, along came the thought police and number crunching seat warmers from
Spring Street, and miraculously turned it into a two lane road, with a 3
metre bicycle lane to accommodate the bicycle riders, who get out and ride
in a bunch about once every two or three weeks and then, only on a Sunday,
but I might add, with a Police Escort front and rear.
These bicycle riders religiously stay within the white lines of their 3
metre bicycle lane, while the Police cars are there, but if you happen to
find them during the week, without a Police Escort, they take up almost all
the entire half of the road and will not move over to let the motorised
vehicles past, which high registration fees have to be paid before they can
venture out on their now half depleted road.
If, as some are claiming that bicycles do not take up much room on a road,
and do not tear up the bitumen like motor vehicles do, this is why there is
no registration fees, then why is there high registration fees for
motorcycles, which only use about 70 - 100 square centimetres of the road
at any one time?
Also, the turning procedures of a motorcycle, against a motor car or truck,
a motorcycle, does not rip the bitumen when turning when compared to a car,
yet, the registration fees for a motorcycle are as costly, if not more than
a car.
Albm&ctd
george...@gmail.com says...
turning to the right. This would be at slow speed.
It's taken in Australia judging by the sign in the background, also the word
Budget . As always, a poor quality photo to avoid scrutiny. The spin doctors at
work no doubt.
Al
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CatharticF1
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>> Albm&ctd <alb_mand...@connexus.net.au> wrote in
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>>>
>>> Read it and weep :)
>>> http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,26078512-3102,00.htm
>>> l
>>
>> Good.
>>
>> Motorcyclists have been left behind by road rules.
>>
>> 1. If someone invented a motorcycle today it would never pass crash
>> tests. The safety aspect is appalling. Why can't I use a kart without
>> a seat belt?
>
> We are talking about two wheeled vehicles, which would be
> impracticable to install seat belts
> Karts are different things, they are classed as recreational vehicles
So it's OK to apply logic to karts and classify them - just not your
precious motorcycles?
> and as well all know, recreational vehicles such as karts, are usually
> driven by irresponsible idiots who drive them wherever they can,
> doesnt matter if people are sitting on the beach just under the dune
> where they are about to drive over the top.
I think you're missing something...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kart
Why aren't these road legal?
>
>> 2. The no-front-plate is a little convenient to still be pushing. It
>> could be incorporated into the design. It just _isn't_.
>
> Okay smart-arse, design a front number plate for ALL types of
> motorcycles which would not get in the way of slicing up pedestrians,
> interrupt the actions of the front forks and interfere with the design
> construction of the stability of the entire motorcycle
You know number plates often don't go in the same place on all cars.
And they don't need to be metal.
And I could design a car (in pure terms) too that just *couldn't* take a
number plate without upsetting the airflow, suspension geometry, cooling
etc..
But guess what - if it's made a design parameter it can be done.
Even retrospectively.
They just don't want to.
>> 3. They are selective lane sharers, blocking when it suits, then
>> passing on the left and queuing in front of cars at the lights.
>
> Ummm....I can see heaps of jealousy creeping in here
> Sharing lanes helps in easing the road congestion
> Passing on the left, because the law says you can
> lane splitting to queue in front at the lights is also legal
> Yes, heaps and heaps of jealousy
I can imagine bikes are one lane wide sometimes and 1 foot wide at other
times at the discretion of the rider of course. Scooting past stationary
traffic isn't the problem, it's passing on the left or through moving
traffic. Car drivers don't want to be part of an accident caused by
someone who isn't even bothering to protect himself let alone others.
>> 4. It is considered culturally acceptable for bikes to do any speed.
>> Why?
>
> Maybe because you think it is culturally acceptable for you to go slow
> in your Datsun 120Y and they are only trying to get out of your way.
I see what you did there - I'm so mad now at being considered a 120y
driver I've lost the ability to think clearly.
But I'm still unclear as to why bike riders alone be given carte blanche
to speed past me, but I not past them on wet roundabouts when their balls
have retracted?
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> CatharticF1 wrote:
>>
>> Albm&ctd <alb_mand...@connexus.net.au> wrote in
>> news:MPG.25761c975...@news.eternal-september.org:
>>
>> >
>> > Read it and weep :)
>> > http://fat.ly/95mky
>>
>> Good.
>>
>> Motorcyclists have been left behind by road rules.
>>
>> 1. If someone invented a motorcycle today it would never pass crash
>> tests. The safety aspect is appalling. Why can't I use a kart without
>> a seat belt? 2. The no-front-plate is a little convenient to still be
>> pushing. It could be incorporated into the design. It just _isn't_.
>> 3. They are selective lane sharers, blocking when it suits, then
>> passing on the left and queuing in front of cars at the lights.
>> 4. It is considered culturally acceptable for bikes to do any speed.
>> Why?
>>
>>
>
> No we haven't. We're subject to the bulk of those that apply to other
> road users, plus some others unique to bikes. Please explain.
So you would say the average bike rider is not more likely to break the
speed limit away from the lights than the average car driver?
Hard to type with both hands over your eyes? :)
> 1. If God recreated the world today, the OH&S brigade would ban
> mountains and cliffs, the greens would attempt to sanction carnivores,
> Al Gore would seek to have the atmosphere repealed as a threat in the
> face of significant evidence to the contrary because it contains CO2
> and some efficiency team would try to have the oceans rescinded
> because they're far too big and they waste water.
Bike riders pay for it more than anyone else of course.
Car safety continues to improve.
> 2. You appear not to understand the problem.
http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/motogp-
turn1.jpg
The purest and least compromised design of bike on the planet have number
plates.
> 3. So are many other things that *do* significantly impede the flow of
> traffic. Bikes generally don't unless they break down of fall over.
True - it's the 'at speed' cutting between that's my issue.
> 4. No it isn't, but if it was, by whom? Mind you, I still travel at
> what I consider an apppropriate speed for the conditions and the
> safety of both myself and other road users. That will generally be
> either slightly higher or lower than the prevailing speed to prevent
> my becoming ignored as a stationary part of the scenery. Cheers
You sir, are an exception.. :)
hippo
>
> am9obmhAc2hvYWwubmV0LmF1@REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au (hippo) wrote in
> news:heiuuc$4o6$1...@news.eternal-september.org:
>
> > CatharticF1 wrote:
> >>
> >> Albm&ctd <alb_mand...@connexus.net.au> wrote in
> >> news:MPG.25761c975...@news.eternal-september.org:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Read it and weep :)
> >> > http://fat.ly/95mky
> >>
> >> Good.
> >>
> >> Motorcyclists have been left behind by road rules.
> >>
> >> 1. If someone invented a motorcycle today it would never pass crash
> >> tests. The safety aspect is appalling. Why can't I use a kart without
> >> a seat belt? 2. The no-front-plate is a little convenient to still be
> >> pushing. It could be incorporated into the design. It just _isn't_.
> >> 3. They are selective lane sharers, blocking when it suits, then
> >> passing on the left and queuing in front of cars at the lights.
> >> 4. It is considered culturally acceptable for bikes to do any speed.
> >> Why?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > No we haven't. We're subject to the bulk of those that apply to other
> > road users, plus some others unique to bikes. Please explain.
>
> So you would say the average bike rider is not more likely to break the
> speed limit away from the lights than the average car driver?
>
> Hard to type with both hands over your eyes? :)
Sarcasm doesn't become you! I can hammer a GSXR, GPZ, CBR, or whatever
from front row centre at any set of lights immediately the green shows and
probably be 1-200m ahead of anything else by the time I reach 50 or
60km/h. Assuming I then choose to stop accelerating (and without any
admissions or denials) the perception will still be that I am speeding,
just because of the gap. True?
I can do something similar in a 206GTi (and even a vague facsimile on a
postie bike in a lot of traffic situations, but probably not in the old
Saab!) so it's no problem on a bike with any sort of pickup. I agree that
many will speed, but more are just assumed to be doing so.
FWIW, my MiL learned to drive when she was 40+ and is proud of the fact
that she *never* speeds. She'd be mortified if anyone in the family told
her that it simply isn't true in city traffic nearly every time she
drives. It's not a lot, but she's often 8-12 over the limit, along with
the overwhelming mass of vehicles around her.
'Speeding' is very often a circumstantial perception. Prob none of the
cars in the 'pinkie ad' are actually speeding, but the msg implies they
are. Conversely, the Mazda 3 coming nicely round the corner, slightly out
of shape, in the 'Zoom Zoom' ad quite possibly is, but nobody's commented
on it because it's not central to the message.
Bike or car, I'm not a saint. I'm one of these dinosaurs who believe that
it should be possible to enjoy driving or riding, exploit the capabilities
of same and make memorable stories out of a series of corners or hills.
This may or may not involve speed, but it *does* involve participation in
the process, an understanding of your individual skill level and a
sufficient margin fo those of other people and the intervention of the
unexpected.
>
> > 1. If God recreated the world today, the OH&S brigade would ban
> > mountains and cliffs, the greens would attempt to sanction carnivores,
> > Al Gore would seek to have the atmosphere repealed as a threat in the
> > face of significant evidence to the contrary because it contains CO2
> > and some efficiency team would try to have the oceans rescinded
> > because they're far too big and they waste water.
>
> Bike riders pay for it more than anyone else of course.
> Car safety continues to improve.
>
> > 2. You appear not to understand the problem.
>
> turn1.jpg
>
> The purest and least compromised design of bike on the planet have number
> plates.
>
> > 3. So are many other things that *do* significantly impede the flow of
> > traffic. Bikes generally don't unless they break down of fall over.
>
> True - it's the 'at speed' cutting between that's my issue.
>
> > 4. No it isn't, but if it was, by whom? Mind you, I still travel at
> > what I consider an apppropriate speed for the conditions and the
> > safety of both myself and other road users. That will generally be
> > either slightly higher or lower than the prevailing speed to prevent
> > my becoming ignored as a stationary part of the scenery. Cheers
>
> You sir, are an exception.. :)
>
Naa.... I'm just a bloody pom with a bit of an attitude problem who rides,
drives, walks and cycles a hell of a lot of Kms. With respect, refer to my
earlier comments & look anew. You may get a pleasant surprise.
Going out, so I'll check your link later. Cheers
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Brad
"George W Frost" <george...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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: "Albm&ctd" <alb_mand...@connexus.net.au> wrote in message
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:
I think a fair bit of that is insurance but I could be wrong. I'll be
getting a bike next year (the ZY50 I have at the moment wouldn't cut it :-)
and I will place a bet with anyone that I will have to contend with some of
the nastiest drivers you could imagine. Perhaps if I rode in full leathers
and with every piece of skin covered it would be a little better but not
much and I would die of heat stroke on the first outing. I don't plan on
obeying many road rules at all just try to get where I am going alive and if
that means I'm on the footpath so be it. Hang on, that's how I drive the Ute
here as well so not too much will change.
The over regulation in Oz is a bit tricky when I visit. Here I don't ever
like to come to a complete stop in traffic nor do I stay in my own lane, but
that isn't a big worry south as you don't have the great traffic calming
devices we do here called potholes. Bikes here have no rights and must give
way to everything, not by law but by the "he who can cause the most damage
has right of way" thinking so common here. The cops do get excited about
helmets here and have threatened to book me but as I was wearing a clown
suit and a monster mask at the time it didn't worry me greatly.
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Brad Leyden
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Albm&ctd
rasf1...@gmail.com says...
> True - it's the 'at speed' cutting between that's my issue.
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the cam chain when it's right beside. Stupid EPA noise pollution laws, should
limit at 100db and just ban unbaffled and/or straight pipes that split eardrums.
I've had motorcycle aware drivers (the ones that look for them and also ride
them) tell me they almost hit a motorcycle. I ask did you hear them? The answer
is always no.
Most noise issues in the suburbs are dickheads that ride around and around the
block revving like crazy through the gears, more gear changes than a Kenworth
on something unregisterable.
I always thank them for making life harder by bringing more restrictions on the
rest of us. We haven't has so many unregistered motorcross and trail bikes
lately.
Albm&ctd
alb_mand...@connexus.net.au says...
Just went back to that link to find another headline:
Model has finger reattached after accident.
MODEL Erin McNaught recovering from emergency surgery after a TV motorcycle
stunt went wrong.
They described the offending motorcycle as an 'electronic dirt bike'
Albm&ctd
rasf1...@gmail.com says...
> And I could design a car (in pure terms) too that just *couldn't* take a
> number plate without upsetting the airflow, suspension geometry, cooling
> etc..
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> But guess what - if it's made a design parameter it can be done.
> Even retrospectively.
> They just don't want to.
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mudguard would flap against the tyre at freeway speeds and the bolts that
protruded through the mounting bracket cut noticable grooves in the tyre. That
was a 1977 model.