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Jason James

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Nov 21, 2009, 10:20:52 PM11/21/09
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Last 3 or so days, and it's buggering my vegetable garden up. Unless you
water 3-4 times a day,..the tomatoes look like someone ran a propane torch
over the foliage. The Zuchinis just shut up shop and withered to
death,...faaaark!

Jason


Scotty

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Nov 21, 2009, 10:24:33 PM11/21/09
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"Jason James" <a...@ass.com> wrote in message news:4b08ae1d$0$3484$c30e...@pit-reader.telstra.net...
: Last 3 or so days, and it's buggering my vegetable garden up. Unless you
:
:

Oh well, theres always Coles eh.


Clocky

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Nov 21, 2009, 11:00:29 PM11/21/09
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"Scotty" <sco...@warmmail.com> wrote in message
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You have got to be kidding, that cold storage shit is inedible.

I pay the same for quality fruit and veg from my local greengrocer and
drought doesn't seem to affect their supplies much at all.


Scotty

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Nov 21, 2009, 11:09:14 PM11/21/09
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.......yeah, Im sure that they get off season stuff year round thats not been anywhere near cold
storage.


Clocky

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"Scotty" <sco...@warmmail.com> wrote in message
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Who mentioned off season stuff? The proof is in the tasting...


Jeßus

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:08:33 AM11/22/09
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In article <4b08ae1d$0$3484$c30e...@pit-reader.telstra.net>,
a...@ass.com said...
:
:Last 3 or so days, and it's buggering my vegetable garden up. Unless you
:water 3-4 times a day,..the tomatoes look like someone ran a propane torch
:over the foliage. The Zuchinis just shut up shop and withered to
:death,...faaaark!
:

Make a wind break.
I assume you've already mulched the garden...

Albm&ctd

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Nov 22, 2009, 12:29:50 AM11/22/09
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In article <4b08ae1d$0$3484$c30e...@pit-reader.telstra.net>, a...@ass.com
says...
Put Tommy Tomato on a drip and bury poor Zelda Zucchini.

"Zucchini is an ideal plant for the beginner produce gardener because it is
quick and easy to grow."
http://www.sgaonline.org.au/yy_zucchini.html

Al
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Jason James

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:47:05 AM11/22/09
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"Je�us" <no...@all.org> wrote in message
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Most of it,..but not around the now dead Capsicums (I said Zuchini,..its
Capsicums) point taken.

Jason


Jason James

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Nov 22, 2009, 1:52:34 AM11/22/09
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"Albm&ctd" <alb_mand...@connexus.net.au> wrote in message
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> In article <4b08ae1d$0$3484$c30e...@pit-reader.telstra.net>, a...@ass.com
> says...
>> Last 3 or so days, and it's buggering my vegetable garden up. Unless you
>> water 3-4 times a day,..the tomatoes look like someone ran a propane
>> torch
>> over the foliage. The Zuchinis just shut up shop and withered to
>> death,...faaaark!
>>
>> Jason
>>
> Put Tommy Tomato on a drip and bury poor Zelda Zucchini.
>
> "Zucchini is an ideal plant for the beginner produce gardener because it
> is
> quick and easy to grow."
> http://www.sgaonline.org.au/yy_zucchini.html

I know what you want to see, Al, all my garden dead,...:-) Well neeear! the
pumkins are doing fine.

Jason


Jeßus

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:01:53 AM11/22/09
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In article <4b08de6a$0$3477$c30e...@pit-reader.telstra.net>,
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:"Je�us" <no...@all.org> wrote in message

I've learnt through long experience not to underestimate how drying
winds can be :)

Rheilly Phoull

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Nov 22, 2009, 2:04:19 AM11/22/09
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"Jason James" <a...@ass.com> wrote in message
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Anyway, keep it down or Turcaud will get encouraged :-)


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Jeßus

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Nov 22, 2009, 3:30:33 AM11/22/09
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:"Jason James" <a...@ass.com> wrote in message

LOL. I'll give Turcaud credit for staying power, if nothing else :)

Noddy

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Nov 22, 2009, 4:48:43 AM11/22/09
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"Clocky" <not...@happen.com> wrote in message
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> I pay the same for quality fruit and veg from my local greengrocer and

> drought doesn't seem to affect their supplies much at all.

Absolutely.

We buy all of our fruit & vegies from the local green grocer, whatever we
don't grow ourselves that is, and there's no comparison between that and the
crap sold at your average supermarket. It's usually cheaper as well.

Can't wait until we're down on the Marsh, as apart from having our own
fairly sizable veggie garden we'll be 2 minutes drive from some of the best
fruit and veggie orchards in the country who sell direct to the public at
discount prices.

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D Walford

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Nov 22, 2009, 6:31:08 AM11/22/09
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After the very hot spell in Feb this year a customer showed me a
zucchini that literally cooked on the vine.
After last years extreme heat and lack of water I didn't bother planting
anything this year.
At least we have had some decent rain down here recently.

Daryl

Albm&ctd

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Nov 22, 2009, 6:58:24 AM11/22/09
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Lingers like a rotting frog.

Albm&ctd

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In article <0092a565$0$26878$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>,
dwal...@internode.on.net says...
As opposed to indecent rain, golden showers and such.

jonz

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Nov 22, 2009, 7:04:27 AM11/22/09
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Albm&ctd wrote:
> In article <0092a565$0$26878$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>,
> dwal...@internode.on.net says...
>> Jason James wrote:
>>> Last 3 or so days, and it's buggering my vegetable garden up. Unless you
>>> water 3-4 times a day,..the tomatoes look like someone ran a propane torch
>>> over the foliage. The Zuchinis just shut up shop and withered to
>>> death,...faaaark!
>>>
>> After the very hot spell in Feb this year a customer showed me a
>> zucchini that literally cooked on the vine.
>> After last years extreme heat and lack of water I didn't bother planting
>> anything this year.
>> At least we have had some decent rain down here recently.
>>
>> Daryl
>>
> As opposed to indecent rain, golden showers and such.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
yairs indeed.....

>
> Al


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D Walford

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Nov 22, 2009, 7:10:19 AM11/22/09
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Albm&ctd wrote:
> In article <0092a565$0$26878$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>,
> dwal...@internode.on.net says...
>> Jason James wrote:
>>> Last 3 or so days, and it's buggering my vegetable garden up. Unless you
>>> water 3-4 times a day,..the tomatoes look like someone ran a propane torch
>>> over the foliage. The Zuchinis just shut up shop and withered to
>>> death,...faaaark!
>>>
>> After the very hot spell in Feb this year a customer showed me a
>> zucchini that literally cooked on the vine.
>> After last years extreme heat and lack of water I didn't bother planting
>> anything this year.
>> At least we have had some decent rain down here recently.
>>
>> Daryl
>>
> As opposed to indecent rain, golden showers and such.

Very much opposed to those:-)


Daryl

Jason James

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Nov 22, 2009, 4:21:20 PM11/22/09
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"Rheilly Phoull" <rhe...@bigslong.com> wrote in message
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Yeah,..he's a case alright :-)

Jason


Trevor Wilson

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Nov 22, 2009, 7:40:00 PM11/22/09
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**Bugger that. Supermarket fruit and vegs are low end crap. The local fruit
and veg merchants sell far higher quality products at competitive prices.


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Trevor Wilson

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Nov 22, 2009, 10:40:21 PM11/22/09
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**Yeah, it's amazing the prices you pay from growers and wholesalers.
Whenever I get down to the markets, I fill up the Commodore for not much
money, then frantically try to eat everything, or give it away, before it
goes off. It's so tempting to buy a whole box of orages for the same as the
1kg price at the local greengrocer. For me, the problem is that the markets
are too far away to make it a viable shopping expedition.


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Brad

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Nov 23, 2009, 12:11:05 AM11/23/09
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:

The local market is great fun, nothing there has seen a fridge and
everything is ripened on the vine.
Tomatoes taste great and the flavour of the fruit is completely different to
mass produced produce.
I haven't tried the live sago grubs or the flying fox yet and I don't think
I'm in any hurry to.

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Noddy

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Nov 23, 2009, 4:18:51 AM11/23/09
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"Trevor Wilson" <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
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> **Yeah, it's amazing the prices you pay from growers and wholesalers.

> Whenever I get down to the markets, I fill up the Commodore for not much
> money, then frantically try to eat everything, or give it away, before it
> goes off. It's so tempting to buy a whole box of orages for the same as
> the 1kg price at the local greengrocer. For me, the problem is that the
> markets are too far away to make it a viable shopping expedition.

Once we're up and running in the new house we'll hopefully have a veggie
patch large enough to keep us more than self sufficient in that area, and
we'll have some spare to give away to family & friends.

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Noddy.


Clocky

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:50:53 AM11/23/09
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We're just starting ours. The strawberries tasted just like I remember how
they tasted when I was a kid, delicious. Same the cherry tomatoes.
I haven't tasted anything like it for many, many years... I think our
tastebuds have over time adjusted to the taste of rubbish mass produce and I
guess that is what they count on for people to keep buying it.

Albm&ctd

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Nov 23, 2009, 6:36:19 AM11/23/09
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In article <031a56f1$0$1329$c3e...@news.astraweb.com>, nic...@migo.com says...
People will buy anything that is cheap so why do they shop at major
supermarkets in the first place? Must be some sort of a drug they put on the
food or maybe that music? The Christmas music drives me nuts. Bing Crosby.. what
have you done!!

Noddy

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"Clocky" <nic...@migo.com> wrote in message
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> We're just starting ours. The strawberries tasted just like I remember how
> they tasted when I was a kid, delicious. Same the cherry tomatoes.
> I haven't tasted anything like it for many, many years...

Agreed.

There's nothing like the taste of fresh. home grown fruit and veggies in my
opnion. We've only got a tiny little patch here up against the back fence
behind my garage and we grow as much as we can in it. Strawberries, Rocket,
capsicums, Tomatoes and my favourite being corn. Once a year we usually get
a dozen or so corn plants about 6 feet high, and the taste of home grown
corn is out of this world.

> I think our tastebuds have over time adjusted to the taste of rubbish mass
> produce and I guess that is what they count on for people to keep buying
> it.

I generally do the weekly shop, and it always strikes me as funny the people
who buy fruit and veggies in my local supermarket when there's a fantastic
green grocer less than 100 feet away in the very same arcade who sells some
of the best produce around at prices that make the supermarkets look like
the true thieves that they are. He does a roaring trade and we buy a
shitload of stuff from him every week (we're big on fruit in this house
especially), but the number of people who will just simply load their
trolley in the supermarket presumably because they can't be fucked walking
down to the other end of the mall to buy *real* stuff is staggering.

Still, it's their loss.

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hippo

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Nov 23, 2009, 8:32:59 AM11/23/09
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Not a whole lot for a very long time....

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Jeßus

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Nov 23, 2009, 3:29:09 PM11/23/09
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That and daily sugar, salt and misc additives deadens people's taste
buds. No question at all that fresh (as in picked minutes ago) tastes
better. The supermarkets have a novel idea what "fresh" means...

This year was the first time I bothered growing spuds - been enjoying
the 'new potatoes'... OMG, they are unreal. The cheapness of spuds in
shops certainly does not compensate for the taste of fresh picked new
potatoes!

Trevor Wilson

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Nov 23, 2009, 4:09:22 PM11/23/09
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**The first time I grew spuds was bout 30 years ago. They all died. I was so
upset. I didn't know what to do, so I dug them all up. Fabulous. I had no
idea that when the leaves die, is the right time to harvest the spuds. :-)


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Scotty

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"Je�us" <no...@all.invalid> wrote in message news:EgCOm.30537$cd7....@newsfe04.iad...

: Clocky wrote:
: > Noddy wrote:
: >> "Trevor Wilson" <tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
: >> news:7muehoF...@mid.individual.net...
: >>
: >>> **Yeah, it's amazing the prices you pay from growers and wholesalers.
: >>> Whenever I get down to the markets, I fill up the Commodore for not
: >>> much money, then frantically try to eat everything, or give it away,
: >>> before it goes off. It's so tempting to buy a whole box of orages
: >>> for the same as the 1kg price at the local greengrocer. For me, the
: >>> problem is that the markets are too far away to make it a viable
: >>> shopping expedition.
: >> Once we're up and running in the new house we'll hopefully have a
: >> veggie patch large enough to keep us more than self sufficient in
: >> that area, and we'll have some spare to give away to family & friends.
: >
: > We're just starting ours. The strawberries tasted just like I remember how
: > they tasted when I was a kid, delicious. Same the cherry tomatoes.
: > I haven't tasted anything like it for many, many years... I think our
: > tastebuds have over time adjusted to the taste of rubbish mass produce and I
: > guess that is what they count on for people to keep buying it.
:


Try visit NZ and try the local produce. Its wonderful for taste and the quality is 2nd to none.


John_H

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:07:38 PM11/23/09
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And don't forget that commercial growers typically select their
varieties for yield over nutritional value or taste. No better
example than tomatoes.

Standard commercial variety since almost ever is Grosse Lisse, which
tastes bland compared to almost everything else but out yields them
all by a country mile (especially under glasshouse conditions). A few
years back one of the morning TV shows (I've forgotten which)
conducted a tasting intended to demonstrate the superiority of the
home grown varieties.

You guessed it... most of the panel chose the Grosse Lisse.

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John_H

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Nov 23, 2009, 5:07:41 PM11/23/09
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Noddy wrote:
>
>There's nothing like the taste of fresh. home grown fruit and veggies in my
>opnion. We've only got a tiny little patch here up against the back fence
>behind my garage and we grow as much as we can in it. Strawberries, Rocket,
>capsicums, Tomatoes and my favourite being corn. Once a year we usually get
>a dozen or so corn plants about 6 feet high, and the taste of home grown
>corn is out of this world.

That would be sweet corn! :)

Corn is seppo speak for maize... only livestock and Africans eat it
and the seppos mostly turn it into ethanol. ;-)

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Noddy

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"Scotty" <sco...@warmmail.com> wrote in message
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> Try visit NZ and try the local produce. Its wonderful for taste and the
> quality is 2nd to none.

Agreed.

Food in NZ is generally exceptional.

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Noddy.


Jason James

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"John_H" <john...@inbox.com> wrote in message
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Aye,...they're *Gross* Lizy all right. Roma ! The way to go.

Jason


Albm&ctd

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Nov 24, 2009, 12:59:28 AM11/24/09
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Jeezus.. did you eat the green ones too?

Trevor Wilson

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**Fuck no. They were underground. No green ones.


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atec7 7

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I bet you ask all the boy that one

Albm&ctd

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> Albm&ctd wrote:
> > In article <7n0c17F...@mid.individual.net>,
> > tre...@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au says...
I ask aliens from outer space 'do you eat the green ones' and they so no, they
are too full of shit about global warming. We sent them here to annoy you.

Lucky we have Noddy to type them to death, that's what I say.

Jeßus

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Jason James

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"Je�us" <no...@all.org> wrote in message
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Can you just plant a spud that has started sprouting. Is this a reliable way
for growing spuds ?

Jason


Jeßus

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In article <4b0afa96$0$1779$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>, scoter1
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:"Je�us" <no...@all.invalid> wrote in message news:EgCOm.30537$cd7....@newsfe04.iad...

I don't doubt that for a second.

Never been to NZ but would love to. Back in 1996 it was a toss-up
between Tassie and NZ for the holidays - cost was about the same for
either destination, we ended up heading off to Tassie... about 12 years
later, I ended up moving there (here!).

Jeßus

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:
<snip>

:Can you just plant a spud that has started sprouting. Is this a reliable way
:for growing spuds ?

Short answer is yes - there is a risk of disease - hence why you can buy
'seed potatoes' (supposedly disease free) but I've never had any dramas
myself. Plant it a few inches under the soil and/or cover with straw
mulch. You can simply cover them in straw mulch, without soil as well.

You could also cut up the spud, so each piece has an eye that is
sprouting, let the wound heal/dry out and then plant them out, giving
you more individual plants.

Might be an idea to do a few searches on growing spuds in regards to
ongoing maintenance, so you know how to grow them properly (i.e building
up the soil or mulch as they grow).
Theyre a piece of piss to grow - but knowing the basics will give you a
much better crop.

Scotty

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"Je�us" <no...@all.org> wrote in message news:MPG.2576f0582...@news.x-privat.org...
: In article <4b0afa96$0$1779$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au>, scoter1
:
:
:

Its a damn sight cheaper to visit NZ than Tassie from Qld thats for sure. I flew there in September
for $332 return! Yep, included all taxes and fees etc (Oh except the $15 departure tax from NZ.
I cant fly to Tassie for less than that and with the AUD Vs NZD being 1.27 Vs 1.00 at the moment its
well worth a visit.


Jeßus

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:"Je�us" <no...@all.org> wrote in message news:MPG.2576f0582...@news.x-privat.org...

Not in 1996 it wasn't - I lived on the Sunshine Coast at the time :)

:I flew there in September

:for $332 return! Yep, included all taxes and fees etc (Oh except the $15 departure tax from NZ.
:I cant fly to Tassie for less than that and with the AUD Vs NZD being 1.27 Vs 1.00 at the moment its
:well worth a visit.

We looked at various holiday packages at the time, and basically the
cost was the same for either NZ or Tas. But of course, that was 13 years
ago...

Scotty

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"Je�us" <no...@all.org> wrote in message news:MPG.257734e29...@news.x-privat.org...
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:
:
:

Of course no passport required for Tassie either. A bonus if you dont have one!!!


Brad

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: Might be an idea to do a few searches on growing spuds in regards to


: ongoing maintenance, so you know how to grow them properly (i.e building
: up the soil or mulch as they grow).
: Theyre a piece of piss to grow - but knowing the basics will give you a
: much better crop.

Do the car tyre trick, get one car tyre and put in mulch and some soil,
plant potato, when the sprout appears add another tyre and cover again with
straw or mulch, when the green sprouts appear repeat until 6-8 tyres are
stacked up and allow the spud to grow. To harvest kick over the pile of
tyres.

Another method involves those plastic bags used to grow trees in at the
nursery, they produce a couple of pounds each and no digging. Apparently
less disease and easier for mature gardeners.

Jason James

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"Je�us" <no...@all.org> wrote in message
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Tah,..for the tips :-)

Jason


Jeßus

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In article <hei3hn$25br$1...@adenine.netfront.net>, bradl...@spammail.com
said...
:
:: Might be an idea to do a few searches on growing spuds in regards to

:: ongoing maintenance, so you know how to grow them properly (i.e building
:: up the soil or mulch as they grow).
:: Theyre a piece of piss to grow - but knowing the basics will give you a
:: much better crop.
:
:Do the car tyre trick, get one car tyre and put in mulch and some soil,
:plant potato, when the sprout appears add another tyre and cover again with
:straw or mulch, when the green sprouts appear repeat until 6-8 tyres are
:stacked up and allow the spud to grow. To harvest kick over the pile of
:tyres.

I wouldn't do that in a million years. Tyres contain heavy metals and
various toxins that leach out into the soil and straight into the spuds.
Yum.


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