> > >>I feel the BMW 6 has more > > >>potential for power, both stock and with modifications
> > >this is the bit i completly dont unsderstand.
> > >you have one 3.2 litre NA engine, making a fair bit of power. > > >Its in a pretty high state of tune already.
> > I agree with Mark on this, I don't really see that there is much that > > can be done to the BMW 6's used in the M cars. I have a E34 M5 with > > the 3.6litre 6, and it has a lot in common with the M3's 6.
> > For the M5, The engines are engineered pretty close to their maximum > > rev limts. You can change the chip and get a few hundred more revs, > > but thats all. They already run a farily high compression ratio, very > > lumpy cams, huge individual throttle bodies, polished and matched > > head, mandrel bent extractors, and a very free flowing twin 2" > > exhaust. There is really nowhere left to go to get extra power from > > them.
> > A lot of people put in an aftermarket chip, and claim to notice a huge > > improvement, but my before and after dyno measurements would indicate > > otherwise. Some people try different cam gears, but this generally > > boosts midrange torque at the expense of some top end power. And to my > > knowledge, no-one has ever managed to improve upon the stock exhaust, > > except when removing the cats.
yes , damn good reading . he I used to get 7 mpg with a heavy foot :_) when I first came to QLD I ran out . blew all my $ and got a blue gt/ damn I miss it ... was more than a car.. was an awesome chickybabe magnet :_) better than a meal and some cheap plonk he
> "Dennis Jensen" <jen...@amdaat.com.au> wrote in message news:9m1jus$fu4
> > Noddy, although the XD looks similar to the Granada in some ways, and had > > styling based on the Granada, it is definitely nowhere near the same-you > > would not find one component you could switch. The Commodores ALL would be > > more similar to their European counterparts than the XD was similar to the > > Granada (I know the Granada well, used to have them in South Africa).
> Fair enough.
> I haven't seen a Grenada in the flesh, but some pretty good photo's of one > show them to be *very* similar to an XD Falcon. I also remember reading an > article somewhere that said project Blackwood (the XD) appeared some time > after the first of the Grenada's and if that's true then the XD borrows very > heavily from it.
Not only borrowed, as you have stated, the design (Blackwood) was based on it. The Series 2 Granada was out in 1977. However, the body of the Falcon is significantly wider than the Granada, and all the other dimensions are different. Uwe Bahnsen (the designer of the Granada, Mk2 Escort, MkIV Cortina etc.) felt that the Falcon was better styled than the Granada, mainly due to the lower waist line (the Granada had to use the Series 1 door skins). In fact, in photographs, movies etc, you would be more likely, with a quick glance, to think the Granada was a Cortina rather than an XD.
Shaddow Edge wrote: > George B wrote in message <9lvt80$ab...@bugstomper.ihug.com.au>... > > no other car on the road that > > has the presence > > of a r34 gtr. You stand next to one and its simply amazing... ... > I don't know, a mean looking old skool car (dodge charger *like in blade*, > etc) would kill for presence. Might not look as sleek but presence wise > more impact...
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Depends who you talk to; I'd be a lot more impressed by the Skyline.
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> > George B wrote in message <9lvt80$ab...@bugstomper.ihug.com.au>... > > > no other car on the road that > > > has the presence > > > of a r34 gtr. You stand next to one and its simply amazing... > ... > > I don't know, a mean looking old skool car (dodge charger *like in blade*, > > etc) would kill for presence. Might not look as sleek but presence wise > > more impact... > ...
> Depends who you talk to; I'd be a lot more > impressed by the Skyline.
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"Dennis Jensen" <jen...@amdaat.com.au> wrote in message news:9m47c5
> Not only borrowed, as you have stated, the design (Blackwood) was based on > it. The Series 2 Granada was out in 1977. However, the body of the Falcon is > significantly wider than the Granada, and all the other dimensions are > different. Uwe Bahnsen (the designer of the Granada, Mk2 Escort, MkIV > Cortina etc.) felt that the Falcon was better styled than the Granada, > mainly due to the lower waist line (the Granada had to use the Series 1 door > skins). In fact, in photographs, movies etc, you would be more likely, with > a quick glance, to think the Granada was a Cortina rather than an XD.
Thanks Dennis.
You've got my curiosity roused now. I'm going on a Grenada hunt to find out more about them :)
> never ridden in a 2000 hp dodge huh ?.. I was more than "impressed"
> Forg wrote:
> > Shaddow Edge wrote:
> > > George B wrote in message <9lvt80$ab...@bugstomper.ihug.com.au>... > > > > no other car on the road that > > > > has the presence > > > > of a r34 gtr. You stand next to one and its simply amazing... > > ... > > > I don't know, a mean looking old skool car (dodge charger *like in blade*, > > > etc) would kill for presence. Might not look as sleek but presence wise > > > more impact... > > ...
> > Depends who you talk to; I'd be a lot more > > impressed by the Skyline.
> > -- > > -- > > Forg! -DUH#6=- (Y1)
> > "... > > this crazy Forg surrounds me > > ..." > > [Live - "When Dolphins Cry"]
didn't denounce the jap crap at all .read it again . as for the dodge its kinda scary , lots of fun though , if I ever want my eyeballs shoved out the back of my scull I swear that toy could do it , but going more than a couple of blocks is a nightmare
> > > > George B wrote in message <9lvt80$ab...@bugstomper.ihug.com.au>... > > > > > no other car on the road that > > > > > has the presence > > > > > of a r34 gtr. You stand next to one and its simply amazing... > > > ... > > > > I don't know, a mean looking old skool car (dodge charger *like in > blade*, > > > > etc) would kill for presence. Might not look as sleek but presence > wise > > > > more impact... > > > ...
> > > Depends who you talk to; I'd be a lot more > > > impressed by the Skyline.
On Thu, 23 Aug 2001 08:52:17 +0800, "Dennis Jensen" <jen...@amdaat.com.au>, after considering some belly-button fluf, wrote:
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> The Commodores ALL would be >more similar to their European counterparts than the XD was similar to the >Granada (I know the Granada well, used to have them in South Africa).
They certainly are similar (the C'dores, that is). So far, I have found the following parts fit the Opel Monza (Vauxhall Royale Coupe)
Wagon fuel tank (absolutly perfect fit!) Front guards (VB/C) Bonnet (VB/C)
And have been told (but not checked yet) that
Whole front end suspension/steering (where Holden spent $20M ) Air-con / heater box
And suspect (need to investigate)
semi-trailing arm IRS (I suspect this is different, but it's worth a look for bushes, springs and shocks) Instrument cluster (but a wiring nightmare!) wagon lower outer rear guards (have to better than starting with a flat sheet!), valence, and floor.
Neil --- Neil Fisher / Bob Young Thundercords personal opinion unless otherwise noted. Looking for spark plug leads? Check out http://www.magnecor.com.au
atec77 wrote: > never ridden in a 2000 hp dodge huh ?.. I was more than "impressed"
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So you've been in a top-fueller or funny-car? I ddin't know they had the possibility of having passengers? Or do you mean somebody's lied to you about engine power in their yank tank & you've believed them?
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"... this crazy Forg surrounds me ..." [Live - "When Dolphins Cry"]
> > never ridden in a 2000 hp dodge huh ?.. I was more than "impressed" > ...
> So you've been in a top-fueller or funny-car? I > ddin't know they had the possibility of having > passengers? > Or do you mean somebody's lied to you about engine > power in their yank tank & you've believed them?
> -- > -- > Forg! -DUH#6=- (Y1)
> "... > this crazy Forg surrounds me > ..." > [Live - "When Dolphins Cry"]
