Hard Rubbish Haul II - Old Bike Perve Time
cfsmtb
Ok, peruse this faded beauty. We thinks it's a Lawrencia (circa
1940/50's) road bike, that we retrieved via the annual Boroondara Hard
Waste collection. With a GC1 quadrant shifter and GH-6 Front Dynohub.
Wait 'til you see closeups of the post-modernist paint jobbie!
Flickr Gallery:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/51035538080@N01/sets/908569
We wish to restore this lovely rig, any positive suggestions welcome.
Perve away... :D
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cfsmtb
Duncan
Sturmey Archer 3sp.
May I suggest you contact Sheldon B?
Resound
"Duncan" <dunca...@my-dejanews.com> wrote in message
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Oh, that's pretty! It's weird that there's no brakes though, given that it's
a road bike. Unless you've scored one of the ultra super mega rare fixed
3spd hubs.
John...@tricolour.queensu.ca
Maybe these people can offer some suggestions?
http://canberrabicyclemuseum.com.au/bicycle_museum.htm
John Kane
Kingston ON Canada
Terry Collins
>
> Oh, that's pretty! It's weird that there's no brakes though, given that it's
> a road bike. Unless you've scored one of the ultra super mega rare fixed
> 3spd hubs.
I have a feeling that that SA is actually a composite back pedal brake
as well. It looks to have the back-pedal brake arm in one of the photos.
Dancier
Definitely a good bike and you are in the right municipality to find
those old treasures.
As a kid living in East Camberwell I used to ride around on bikes with
the 3 speed stermy archer hubs. Should of kept them but from memory
they were nothing but trouble.
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Dancier
Terry Collins
Either incorrectly adjusted or worn.
Kids bike took a lof of beating because they were often dropped on the
right hand side where the gear cable exited. Once you stopped doing
that, and adjusted them properly, they settled down nicely.
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Resound
"Terry Collins" <terryc...@woa.com.au> wrote in message
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Ah, I was wondering if the front hub could be a brake as well as a generator
(I believe they made them) and decided against the idea when I couldn't see
an arm. Then I realised that there weren't any brake levers on what look
suspiciously like track bars.
cfsmtb
Resound Wrote:
>
>
> Ah, I was wondering if the front hub could be a brake as well as a
> generator
> (I believe they made them) and decided against the idea when I couldn't
> see
> an arm. Then I realised that there weren't any brake levers on what
> look
> suspiciously like track bars.
Hmm, no, any potential double use as a 'drum brake' would short out the
dynamo. The rear hub is a coaster. Unfortunately someone cut the
original lights off, the wire cut looks relatively recent. The saddle
has gone walkies too, but hey, a rig this good is going to have a
Brooks.
There's cloth tape on the top tube, I am going to remove this *very*
carefully as it may have remains of the hand-detailed paintwork. So
much study of Mr S. Browns SA info is at hand, plus stablising the
paintwork & sourcing replacement components. I'm planning to handpaint
& clearcoat. Must call one of my brothers, he used to do pinstriping at
Ken Self bikes back in the 70's. :)
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cfsmtb
Resound
"cfsmtb" <cfsmtb...@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote in message
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Ah, ok. I thought there were hubs that incorporated two separate mechanisms.
Terry Collins
> So much study of Mr S. Browns SA info is at hand,
well rusted) and dump it into litre of light oil, like kerosene, diesel
or heating oil and let it soak for a while before trying to work it.
cfsmtb
Terry Collins Wrote:
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> For the SA, I'd be tempted to just cut it out of that rim (spokes
> looked
> well rusted) and dump it into litre of light oil, like kerosene,
> diesel
> or heating oil and let it soak for a while before trying to work it.
Yeah, we were considering the same. Slightly odd thing is it's got 27'
alloy rims. Possible updated at some point. The front tyre is totally
fried, so we're cutting it off so the dynohub can be tested with the
multimeter.
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cfsmtb
Graeme Dods
On a related note, does anyone know where you can get information of the
dates of these collections (for in and around Perth in my case). A friend
said he had a list of collections a few years back and it came in very
handy for, erm, shopping for bits and pieces. The various local government
sites have bits of information relevant to them (if you search hard and
you're lucky), but a map would be wonderful so I know where to go to get
the bits for my next "build-a-bike" project.
If there aren't any, I may take the time to construct one and put it up on
my web site (though don't hold your breath waiting for that one!)
Graeme
suzyj
cfsmtb wrote:
> Slightly odd thing is it's got 27' alloy rims. Possible updated at
some
> point. The front tyre is totally fried, so we're cutting it off so
the
> dynohub can be tested with the multimeter.
They may be original. My 1947 Malvern Star has a set of 27" Dunlop
alloy HP rims. They're rare as hens teeth now.
Looks like a really nice bike.
Cheers,
Suzy
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suzyj
Resound
"Graeme Dods" <gra...@gpdods.removethisbit.com> wrote in message
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Or maybe we should just grab everything we can find on our local respective
hard rubbish collections and post the stuff we don't want from our haul for
the edification of other on a.b. :)
Sheldon Brown
cfsmtb wrote:
> Ok, peruse this faded beauty. We thinks it's a Lawrencia (circa
> 1940/50's) road bike, that we retrieved via the annual Boroondara Hard
> Waste collection. With a GC1 quadrant shifter and GH-6 Front Dynohub.
> Wait 'til you see closeups of the post-modernist paint jobbie!
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/51035538080@N01/sets/908569
>
> We wish to restore this lovely rig, any positive suggestions welcome.
Lovely indeed! I've never heard of Lawrencia...is that an Aussie
marque? Love the paintwork!
I suspect that this is a converted track frame, with atavistic parts.
The TCW rear hub has a coaster (back-pedalling) brake, quite unreliable
unlike most older Sturmey Archer stuff. There should be a two digit
year date on it. (In the '30s they used one-digit years, but I don't
think the TCW was made before WW2. On the other hand, the quadrant
shifter is rarely seen on bikes made after WW2. My guess is that
whoever did the "road" conversion chose that to leave the handlebars
trackish.
The front is a GH6 Dynohub see: http://sheldonbrown.com/dynohub. It
might also have a year code on it.
The chainset is Williams, I'm pretty sure, formerly very common on good
quality British bikes.
It is a very good thing that you saved it from the tip, it would have
been tragic to have such a lovely machine trashed.
Sheldon "Envious" Brown
Newtonville, Massachusetts, You Ess Ay
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HUMBUG
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> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/51035538080@N01/sets/908569
> >
> > We wish to restore this lovely rig, any positive suggestions
> > welcome.
>
> Lovely indeed! I've never heard of Lawrencia...is that an Aussie
> marque?
Sure is - http://www.lawrenciacycles.com.au/ . In the late '50's and
'60's Lawrencia was where you went for TOP line gear. Someone else here
will probably know who their frame builder was - perhaps George Mc
Donald (Leisurebikes) or wazzisname Bates or one of the Lawrences??
Whoever it was, they were pretty good frames...:-)
I've still got mums old single speed ladies Rudge (with roller lever
brakes) that she got from Lawrencia in the very early '50's. Hmmmm must
do something about that.
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Humbug
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TimC
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
> On 12/09/05 at 12:29:39 Sheldon Brown somehow managed to type:
>
> <snip>
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>> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/51035538080@N01/sets/908569
>> >
>> > We wish to restore this lovely rig, any positive suggestions
>> > welcome.
>>
>> Lovely indeed! I've never heard of Lawrencia...is that an Aussie
>> marque?
>
> Sure is - http://www.lawrenciacycles.com.au/ . In the late '50's and
> '60's Lawrencia was where you went for TOP line gear.
Wow, how times have changed then!
I didn't realise they were the same lawrencia.
Now they seem just to be an overpriced poor service shop.
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TimC
>You seem to be implying here that one gets rich after gaining a PhD?
Of course one does. The other 99 out of a hundred get bitter.
-- Paula responding to TimC on ARK