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  <title type="text">atom-owl Google Group</title>
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  Discussion of Atom-OWL. Latest spec at http://bblfish.net/work/atom-owl/2006-06-06/
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  <updated>2008-12-08T22:47:22Z</updated>
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Story Henry</name>
  <email>henry.st...@bblfish.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-12-08T22:47:22Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/bcd3e5c12bf3fafb/39cd87c94593fe0b?show_docid=39cd87c94593fe0b</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/bcd3e5c12bf3fafb/39cd87c94593fe0b?show_docid=39cd87c94593fe0b"/>
  <title type="text">atomix</title>
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  I noticed some movement on the esw atomowl wiki page, &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://esw.w3.org/topic/AtomOwl&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; and I noted that Toby Inkster is working on ontologies for the atom &lt;br&gt; extensions. Good idea. &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://buzzword.org.uk/rdf/atomix#&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; Henry &lt;br&gt; Home page: &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://bblfish.net/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Story Henry</name>
  <email>henry.st...@bblfish.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-27T13:32:41Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/a09334365570d6d2/6ed2f1a5d5a24f4a?show_docid=6ed2f1a5d5a24f4a"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Can we get a stable URI (for atom-owl) already?!</title>
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  Case in point: &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://purl.org/atom&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; no longer points to anything, even &lt;br&gt; though for a long time I think it did point to a whole bunch of atom &lt;br&gt; related &lt;br&gt; stuff. So a purl is not much of a guarantee of anything. &lt;br&gt; Still I wonder what Sam would think about having that purl be the URL &lt;br&gt; for the atom-owl namespace ?
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Toby Inkster</name>
  <email>m...@tobyinkster.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-27T12:07:12Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/a09334365570d6d2/343b8e1e57313702?show_docid=343b8e1e57313702</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/a09334365570d6d2/343b8e1e57313702?show_docid=343b8e1e57313702"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Can we get a stable URI already?!</title>
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  Sam Ruby &lt;br&gt; -Toby
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Story Henry</name>
  <email>henry.st...@bblfish.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-27T12:00:13Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/a09334365570d6d2/5397588cf0fefc71?show_docid=5397588cf0fefc71</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/a09334365570d6d2/5397588cf0fefc71?show_docid=5397588cf0fefc71"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Can we get a stable URI already?!</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  There was a discussion on this on #swig. The chat logs are here: &lt;br&gt; &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://chatlogs.planetrdf.com/swig/2008-11-27.html#T10-53-15&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; My summary at this time: &lt;br&gt; Purl choice: &lt;br&gt; - purl does not guarantee that the name will always refer to the &lt;br&gt; same ontology. The owner of the purl could die, change his mind, sell
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>tobyink</name>
  <email>m...@tobyinkster.co.uk</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-11-27T11:07:46Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/a09334365570d6d2/c82fa3de13ffffcf?show_docid=c82fa3de13ffffcf</id>
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  <title type="text">Can we get a stable URI already?!</title>
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  I would suggest something like: &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://purl.org/stuff/atom/owl#&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt; &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;Because Danny Ayers already controls &amp;lt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://purl.org/stuff/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;. &lt;br&gt; &lt;p&gt;-Toby
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Story Henry</name>
  <email>henry.st...@bblfish.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-08-01T08:52:33Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/1985dae912147d1d/9fb6d4c9f071454f?show_docid=9fb6d4c9f071454f</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/1985dae912147d1d/9fb6d4c9f071454f?show_docid=9fb6d4c9f071454f"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Atom Triples Internet Draft</title>
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  I like the RDFa idea a lot. Btw, there would be a question as to the &lt;br&gt; namespace of the rdfa attributes if it &lt;br&gt; were to work with atom. &lt;br&gt; Though that makes sense in a way, my feeling is that an atom:Entry is &lt;br&gt; an information object, &lt;br&gt; and so is owl:disjointWith a foaf:Person . I would argue this by &lt;br&gt; looking at the main use case for atom: the Atom Protocol. Atom entries
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Story Henry</name>
  <email>henry.st...@bblfish.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-06T12:35:05Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/1985dae912147d1d/3ca6d0e5c6cd82cb?show_docid=3ca6d0e5c6cd82cb</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/1985dae912147d1d/3ca6d0e5c6cd82cb?show_docid=3ca6d0e5c6cd82cb"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Atom Triples Internet Draft</title>
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  You have to distinguish 3 things, then entry, the id relationship and &lt;br&gt; the object of the id relationship, namely the URI. &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;entry&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;id&amp;gt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://bblfish.net/blog/page1.html#1&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;&amp;lt;/id&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; ... &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;/entry&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; which in N3 can be translated as: &lt;br&gt; [] a :Entry; &lt;br&gt; :id &amp;quot;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://bblfish.net/blog/page1.html#1&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;&amp;quot;^^xsd:anyURI .
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Story Henry</name>
  <email>henry.st...@bblfish.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-03T20:13:24Z</updated>
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  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/1985dae912147d1d/2ab75c1602fee222?show_docid=2ab75c1602fee222"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Atom Triples Internet Draft</title>
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  Well one named graph per content would be more precise. Since there is &lt;br&gt; one content per entry, that also comes down to one per entry of &lt;br&gt; course. But that is exactly what the N3 [1] example I gave and which I &lt;br&gt; have reproduced below says. &lt;br&gt; ----------------- &lt;br&gt; @prefix : &amp;lt;&lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://bblfish.net/work/atom-owl/2006-06-06/#&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt;
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Story Henry</name>
  <email>henry.st...@bblfish.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-02T16:10:30Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/1985dae912147d1d/78512e484d301549?show_docid=78512e484d301549</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/1985dae912147d1d/78512e484d301549?show_docid=78512e484d301549"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Atom Triples Internet Draft</title>
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  Hi Phil, &lt;br&gt; thanks for the pointer to the POWDER spec. I have not used POWDER yet, &lt;br&gt; so I can&#39;t comment on that side of things. I do think it provides a &lt;br&gt; very good example to the atom working group, in that it provides the &lt;br&gt; following: &lt;br&gt; 1. an RDF vocabulary and spec &lt;br&gt; 2. an simple to use XML format
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Story Henry</name>
  <email>henry.st...@bblfish.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-02T14:47:43Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/1985dae912147d1d/601b9a265d81767d?show_docid=601b9a265d81767d</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/1985dae912147d1d/601b9a265d81767d?show_docid=601b9a265d81767d"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Atom Triples Internet Draft</title>
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  Thanks Dave for this proposal to link atom and rdf. &lt;br&gt; A few remarks: &lt;br&gt; 1. one can already embed rdf in atom &lt;br&gt; ------------------------------ ------ &lt;br&gt; Just as a matter of interest for those who do not know the atom &lt;br&gt; format, one can already embed rdf in atom quite simply. &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;entry&amp;gt; &lt;br&gt; &amp;lt;title&amp;gt;syndeocms Project&amp;lt;/title&amp;gt;
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Story Henry</name>
  <email>henry.st...@bblfish.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-02T11:22:31Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/10d9ea1ad4b3dbc4/64a8c4514a6c6927?show_docid=64a8c4514a6c6927</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/10d9ea1ad4b3dbc4/64a8c4514a6c6927?show_docid=64a8c4514a6c6927"/>
  <title type="text">Re: rdf in atom</title>
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  If you are looking for a lack of ambiguity, then why not endorse the &lt;br&gt; process of creating an official semantics for atom, such as atom-owl ? &lt;br&gt; The advantage of this is that it would bring all the work from the &lt;br&gt; Semantic Web side to bear on atom. A GRDDL transform would then create &lt;br&gt; a standard, and unambiguous mapping from atom to RDF. This would allow
  </summary>
  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Story Henry</name>
  <email>henry.st...@bblfish.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-07-01T07:58:44Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/10d9ea1ad4b3dbc4/cda62eeb1c3f0f40?show_docid=cda62eeb1c3f0f40</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/10d9ea1ad4b3dbc4/cda62eeb1c3f0f40?show_docid=cda62eeb1c3f0f40"/>
  <title type="text">Re: rdf in atom</title>
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  Nice work. I welcome the effort to find a mapping from atom to rdf. &lt;br&gt; There are two problems though: &lt;br&gt; (1) Rather than having an IETF document explain how to make explicit &lt;br&gt; a mapping of every instance of the atom format to rdf it would be &lt;br&gt; better to create an ontology for atom and specify an official GRDDL
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  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>David Powell</name>
  <email>djpow...@djpowell.net</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-01-20T17:35:23Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/9b0a3164dde16f2a/fd6f872b40a1d154?show_docid=fd6f872b40a1d154</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/9b0a3164dde16f2a/fd6f872b40a1d154?show_docid=fd6f872b40a1d154"/>
  <title type="text">xml:base resoltution in XSLT</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  Hi, &lt;br&gt; Just a quick status update... &lt;br&gt; I&#39;ve just been working on an XSLT issue. I already had an xml:base &lt;br&gt; resolver for Atom/RDF implemented in XSLT 1.0, but it didn&#39;t quite &lt;br&gt; work with GRDDL because it expected you to pass in a baseURI parameter &lt;br&gt; of the source document, which GRDDL won&#39;t do. I&#39;ve just made some
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Antonio Tapiador del Dujo</name>
  <email>atapia...@dit.upm.es</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-01-17T15:35:42Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/3a900b45c4eb1527/b1ec1ace18a8cad1?show_docid=b1ec1ace18a8cad1</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/3a900b45c4eb1527/b1ec1ace18a8cad1?show_docid=b1ec1ace18a8cad1"/>
  <title type="text">Re: Importing AtomOwl in Protege</title>
  <summary type="html" xml:space="preserve">
  FYI: This was the answer to problems importing AtomOwl in Protege: &lt;br&gt; Antonio, &lt;br&gt; Protege cannot handle all OWL-Full ontologies. Certain things, such as &lt;br&gt; an entity being a class and a property at the same time, are not supported. &lt;br&gt; If you validate the two ontologies with the OWL Validator [1], you will &lt;br&gt; see that they are OWL Full and you will get many warnings, such as
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  </entry>
  <entry>
  <author>
  <name>Henry Story</name>
  <email>henry.st...@gmail.com</email>
  </author>
  <updated>2008-01-11T16:21:01Z</updated>
  <id>http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/fafd1e87e15fb227/202701306292cbfb?show_docid=202701306292cbfb</id>
  <link href="http://groups.google.com/group/atom-owl/browse_thread/thread/fafd1e87e15fb227/202701306292cbfb?show_docid=202701306292cbfb"/>
  <title type="text">Getting Going Again</title>
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  For our 59 readers, just a quick update. &lt;br&gt; It looks like we are going to try to finish this spec now. The GRDDL &lt;br&gt; W3C working group has given us a kick in the backside, saying they &lt;br&gt; would like to have this to work with their spec. &lt;br&gt; So once more into the breach! &lt;br&gt; Aaargghhhhhhh! &lt;br&gt; Henry &lt;br&gt; Home page: &lt;a target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=nofollow href=&quot;http://bblfish.net/&quot;&gt;[link]&lt;/a&gt;
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