Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on the latest attack on the pope by the New York Times:
Once upon a time there was a homosexual priest who was accused of molesting boys in Germany. That was 30 years ago. At the approval of Archbishop Joseph Ratzinger (now the pope), he was sent away for therapy and was later reinstated; years later, under a new archbishop, there was another incident and more therapy.
We know this because the New York Times (which does not like to report on molesting rabbis in 2010), told us about this on Saturday in a front-page article. Today, it ran a front-page article on the same story. Was there any difference? Yes. On Saturday, the Times was only able to identify the priest as bearing the initial "H." Today, it has real news: his name is Hullermann. And now "H" has been suspended.
Was it wrong to send abusers to therapy? Is it wrong today? The Times does not say. While it is painfully obvious that psychologists and psychiatrists have oversold their competency in treating abusers, it has long been considered to be both scientifically and ethically sound. It still is. Perhaps that view is unwarranted, but it is flatly unfair to cherry pick Catholic decision-makers for indictment when therapy fails.
The Times also wrote today that when the pope was Cardinal Ratzinger under Pope John Paul II, he was "in charge of reviewing sexual abuse cases for the Vatican." In doing so, the Times leaves the impression that Ratzinger was in charge of overseeing these cases when the scandal developed. Nonsense. The Times reported on January 9, 2002 that he had just been appointed to this role. Thus, he had nothing to do with this issue at the time when most of the abuse took place (mid-60s to mid-80s).
The Times has a vested ideological interest in keeping this story alive. To say it dislikes Pope Benedict XVI intensely is an understatement.
Excerpts: '"I think it is more (a problem) of homosexuality than pedophilia," Barbosa says. Asked directly if he ever abused boys, Barbosa says he could only answer such a question "in confession." He then ends the interview, which was aired Thursday and posted on SBT's YouTube page.'
Didn't take long for a priest to demonize homosexuality with an unrelated connection to pedophilia, did it?
Lucky for him Ratzinger is in charge. He'll likely get away scot-free.
Question: Is water-boarding an acceptable means of getting the confession?
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On Mar 17, 11:58 am, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What about the Star Tribune?
And Hitchens' article as well. We targeted the Times because this issue was already resolved in 2002, in which the Times reported that the pope had nothing to do with it because he was just appointed to the post. Why the Times is bringing it up again, is beyond anybody's comprehension.
> Excerpts: > '"I think it is more (a problem) of homosexuality than pedophilia," Barbosa > says. Asked directly if he ever abused boys, Barbosa says he could only > answer such a question "in confession." He then ends the interview, which > was aired Thursday and posted on SBT's YouTube page.'
> Didn't take long for a priest to demonize homosexuality with an unrelated > connection to pedophilia, did it?
> Lucky for him Ratzinger is in charge. He'll likely get away scot-free.
> Question: Is water-boarding an acceptable means of getting the confession?
> -- > "Love is friendship on fire" --Anonymous
> "Faith may not move mountains, but you should see what it does to > skyscrapers" --Panama Floyd, aa#2015
"The German Government has gone so far as to accuse the Vatican of suppressing the truth. On Monday Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger, the Justice Minister, said that a "wall of silence" was imposed on Catholic-run schools by a 2001 Vatican directive which declared cases of abuse "subject to papal confidentiality". It was issued at a time when Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the current Pope, was head of doctrine.
The Vatican has switched to crisis management amid the sex abuse allegations and the threat of lawsuits across Europe and North America. Last month the Pope summoned Irish bishops to Rome and lectured them about the "heinous crime" of sexual abuse. He is due to issue a pastoral letter on the subject before Easter to Irish Catholics."
-- "Love is friendship on fire" --Anonymous
"Faith may not move mountains, but you should see what it does to skyscrapers" --Panama Floyd, aa#2015
On Mar 17, 12:03 pm, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> And what about The Australian?
Yes, nobody is denying it and actually, everybody in the Catholic Church is abhorring it. We cannot condone any criminal act by anybody. The reason why the Times is in my other response to you.
> "The German Government has gone so far as to accuse the Vatican of > suppressing the truth. On Monday Sabine Leutheusser-Schnarrenberger, the > Justice Minister, said that a "wall of silence" was imposed on Catholic-run > schools by a 2001 Vatican directive which declared cases of abuse "subject > to papal confidentiality". It was issued at a time when Cardinal Joseph > Ratzinger, the current Pope, was head of doctrine.
> The Vatican has switched to crisis management amid the sex abuse allegations > and the threat of lawsuits across Europe and North America. Last month the > Pope summoned Irish bishops to Rome and lectured them about the "heinous > crime" of sexual abuse. He is due to issue a pastoral letter on the subject > before Easter to Irish Catholics."
> -- > "Love is friendship on fire" --Anonymous
> "Faith may not move mountains, but you should see what it does to > skyscrapers" --Panama Floyd, aa#2015
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Tracey Maddow <tracey.maddow...@gmail.com>wrote:
> On Mar 17, 11:58 am, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > What about the Star Tribune?
> And Hitchens' article as well. We targeted the Times because this > issue was already resolved in 2002, in which the Times reported that > the pope had nothing to do with it because he was just appointed to > the post. Why the Times is bringing it up again, is beyond anybody's > comprehension.
In what way is it resolved Tracey?
By blaming homosexuals for these crimes by pedophile priests?
By forcing the Irish taxpayer to pay damages to the victims while the Catholic Church rolls in their billions of dollars?
When will the Catholic Church take responsibility for their criminal acts?
> > Excerpts: > > '"I think it is more (a problem) of homosexuality than pedophilia," > Barbosa > > says. Asked directly if he ever abused boys, Barbosa says he could only > > answer such a question "in confession." He then ends the interview, which > > was aired Thursday and posted on SBT's YouTube page.'
> > Didn't take long for a priest to demonize homosexuality with an > unrelated > > connection to pedophilia, did it?
> > Lucky for him Ratzinger is in charge. He'll likely get away scot-free.
> > Question: Is water-boarding an acceptable means of getting the > confession?
> > -- > > "Love is friendship on fire" --Anonymous
> > "Faith may not move mountains, but you should see what it does to > > skyscrapers" --Panama Floyd, aa#2015
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On Mar 17, 12:12 pm, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Tracey Maddow > <tracey.maddow...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > On Mar 17, 11:58 am, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > What about the Star Tribune?
> > And Hitchens' article as well. We targeted the Times because this > > issue was already resolved in 2002, in which the Times reported that > > the pope had nothing to do with it because he was just appointed to > > the post. Why the Times is bringing it up again, is beyond anybody's > > comprehension.
> In what way is it resolved Tracey?
It is resolved only on the case of the pope. He had nothing to do with it. The cleric was in the wrong and I hope that he rot in hell.
> > > Excerpts: > > > '"I think it is more (a problem) of homosexuality than pedophilia," > > Barbosa > > > says. Asked directly if he ever abused boys, Barbosa says he could only > > > answer such a question "in confession." He then ends the interview, which > > > was aired Thursday and posted on SBT's YouTube page.'
> > > Didn't take long for a priest to demonize homosexuality with an > > unrelated > > > connection to pedophilia, did it?
> > > Lucky for him Ratzinger is in charge. He'll likely get away scot-free.
> > > Question: Is water-boarding an acceptable means of getting the > > confession?
> > > -- > > > "Love is friendship on fire" --Anonymous
> > > "Faith may not move mountains, but you should see what it does to > > > skyscrapers" --Panama Floyd, aa#2015
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> On Mar 17, 12:12 pm, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Tracey Maddow > > <tracey.maddow...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > On Mar 17, 11:58 am, Trance Gemini <trancegemi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > What about the Star Tribune?
> > > And Hitchens' article as well. We targeted the Times because this > > > issue was already resolved in 2002, in which the Times reported that > > > the pope had nothing to do with it because he was just appointed to > > > the post. Why the Times is bringing it up again, is beyond anybody's > > > comprehension.
> > In what way is it resolved Tracey?
> It is resolved only on the case of the pope. He had nothing to do with > it. The cleric was in the wrong and I hope that he rot in hell.
> > By blaming homosexuals for these crimes by pedophile priests?
> > By forcing the Irish taxpayer to pay damages to the victims while the > > Catholic Church rolls in their billions of dollars?
> > When will the Catholic Church take responsibility for their criminal acts?
> > > > Excerpts: > > > > '"I think it is more (a problem) of homosexuality than pedophilia," > > > Barbosa > > > > says. Asked directly if he ever abused boys, Barbosa says he could only > > > > answer such a question "in confession." He then ends the interview, which > > > > was aired Thursday and posted on SBT's YouTube page.'
> > > > Didn't take long for a priest to demonize homosexuality with an > > > unrelated > > > > connection to pedophilia, did it?
> > > > Lucky for him Ratzinger is in charge. He'll likely get away scot-free.
> > > > Question: Is water-boarding an acceptable means of getting the > > > confession?
> > > > -- > > > > "Love is friendship on fire" --Anonymous
> > > > "Faith may not move mountains, but you should see what it does to > > > > skyscrapers" --Panama Floyd, aa#2015
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