Departure bug

[Truper]

I am at Houston TX - George Bush International and I have a departure
that requested an exit to IAH.

I cleared the departure to 13,000 feet and cleared to IAH but the
aircraft circles IAH and never leaves.

[Greg Henry]

Much like George Bush himself. BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!

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[Roy Ryland]

I have that a lot...  If the fix (IAH) is near the airport of departure, they will circle to gain the altitude before Center will accept the hand off!  It seems to make very little difference that you assign a departing aircraft a lower altitude so that he can attain the assigned altitude.  In the case of IAH, (that's the George Bush VOR station) the aircraft has to go  into the "hunt" mode right away after take off and it's really an elusive assignment, being so close to the airport.  Does that make sense?   Also, I find if I assign altitudes of 5000 feet or less, Center will not take the hand off.   I generally assign 6000 to 9000 feet and most times the hand off occurs before the aircraft gets to that assigned altitude.   It's a fun GAME, but that's what it is, a GAME.  There's much more involved with real traffic.  I'm a retired air traffic controller.   RRR   -------Original Message-------

From: Truper Date: 11/10/2009 10:30:33 AM To: ATC-SIM Subject: Departure bug

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[Roy Ryland]

Also in the case of an aircraft circling.  In his circling, he's never going to go directly to IAH because of his turn radius not allowing a tight enough turn to go there,  What I do is assign the circling aircraft a heading going any direction AWAY from the fix (IAH)., get him far enough away from IAH, then assign him a heading that will take him directly to IAH, then center will accept the hand off.  If it happens again try that, I believe it'll work. It has for me.

RRR   -------Original Message-------   From: Truper Date: 11/10/2009 10:30:33 AM To: ATC-SIM Subject: Departure bug