Conflict between precision and emotion
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rAgAv
Sep 29, 2006, 9:16:10 AM9/29/06
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According to me, the more the emotions the less will be the precision.
Emotions = K/precision ; 'K' is a constant
Therefore, robots with emotions are 'robots' no more; as they will
behave quite like humans. They will *believe* in intiutions and make
mistakes. Mistakes which they would'nt do, if they knew they were
mistakes.
Thanks in advance,
rAgAv.
Hannele
Nov 13, 2006, 2:24:14 AM11/13/06
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rAgAv wrote:
> They will *believe* in intiutions
Our feelings record how well we achieve the goals which we feel to be
important in our lives. So the atmosphere of a thing tells whther it is
a good way to reach our goals or not. That's why intuition is worth
trusting: it is objective information about the likelihood of reaching
our goals that way.
Robert Picone
Nov 16, 2006, 2:37:55 AM11/16/06
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I really fail to see your point, well, other than distinguishing the line between robot and something else. Regardless, emotions are really the root of very few human mistakes, that is, as you said, intuition, a very different animal all together from most definitions of emotion. Intuition is merely an extension of the one thing our brains do well, patern recognition, it's what we're wired for, and the whole point in neural nets in computing. Because we base things off of patern recognition, and not actual computing, we'll recognize paterns that aren't truly there, computers/robots that use techniques of patern recognition are already as faulty as human intuition makes us, if not more. Take those scrambled letters many websites use to verify you aren't a bot.... Computers can already identify letters easily enough, but once a an N is tilted, and has a thin extra lin though it, the computer, prone to inaccuracy in its patern recognition believes it to be an "a" just as a human may believe 3 + 4 is 12 for a brief moment based upon past experience when they glanced at those numbers.
Emotion, is distinct from intuition in its very nature, though simulating it in the truest sense would be difficult because it is largely a physical sensation, and thus anything that would experince emotions in the way humans, or at least animals experience emotions, would need some sense of a range of physical sensations. That said, the other part of emotion, is a thought process, I'm listing this second because it is almost peripheral to the experience of an emotion, when you're angry, you think a certain way, but nothing keeps you from stopping thinking that way simply by your own force of will. Nothing keeps you from accurately doing complex math if you really want to while you're feeling a strong emotion, and if you really want to do it and concentrate on it, you're not any more prone to errors than normal. Furthermore, emotions can freely begin and end with simple thoughts in humans, often one's spouse will make one angry, and then calm them with a single action that triggers a thought of love for the spouse, and as such, if someone knows how to control their emotions, they can remain unaffected by them as they do any precise work. I see no reason machines would lack these abilities had they emotions.
This of course, is speaking of emotions as we experience them however, artificial emotion is mostly reffered to as an something not within an entity that also contains artificial inteligence (or they'd be lumped into inteligence, as emotions are part of the behavior of all sentient beings we know of.) This doesn't really necisarily have any concequence from the earlier mentioend elements, because it is just that, artificial, not experienced in a true manner, and thus, not the same thing as the emotions of a sentient being. As the purpose of artificial emotion is mostly human interaction, the emotions would likely be exagerated, but only to the extent desired by the creator of that system. It's likely that some simulations of emotions would lose precision, in other tasks, but this would be by design, so that humans involved would notice the emotion, and as such it would be ultimately preforming its designed task with precision.
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Emotion, is distinct from intuition in its very nature, though simulating it in the truest sense would be difficult because it is largely a physical sensation, and thus anything that would experince emotions in the way humans, or at least animals experience emotions, would need some sense of a range of physical sensations. That said, the other part of emotion, is a thought process, I'm listing this second because it is almost peripheral to the experience of an emotion, when you're angry, you think a certain way, but nothing keeps you from stopping thinking that way simply by your own force of will. Nothing keeps you from accurately doing complex math if you really want to while you're feeling a strong emotion, and if you really want to do it and concentrate on it, you're not any more prone to errors than normal. Furthermore, emotions can freely begin and end with simple thoughts in humans, often one's spouse will make one angry, and then calm them with a single action that triggers a thought of love for the spouse, and as such, if someone knows how to control their emotions, they can remain unaffected by them as they do any precise work. I see no reason machines would lack these abilities had they emotions.
This of course, is speaking of emotions as we experience them however, artificial emotion is mostly reffered to as an something not within an entity that also contains artificial inteligence (or they'd be lumped into inteligence, as emotions are part of the behavior of all sentient beings we know of.) This doesn't really necisarily have any concequence from the earlier mentioend elements, because it is just that, artificial, not experienced in a true manner, and thus, not the same thing as the emotions of a sentient being. As the purpose of artificial emotion is mostly human interaction, the emotions would likely be exagerated, but only to the extent desired by the creator of that system. It's likely that some simulations of emotions would lose precision, in other tasks, but this would be by design, so that humans involved would notice the emotion, and as such it would be ultimately preforming its designed task with precision.
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