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Irapuan Martinez  
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From: Irapuan Martinez <irap...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:00:03 -0200
Local: Wed, Oct 28 2009 12:00 pm
Subject: 未来5年

  Google's Eric Schmidt on What the Web Will Look Like in 5 Years
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_web_in_five_years.php

Google CEO Eric Schmidt envisions a radically changed internet five years
from now: dominated by Chinese-language and social media content, delivered
over super-fast bandwidth in real time. Figuring out how to rank real-time
social content is "the great challenge of the age," Schmidt said in an
interview in front of thousands of CIOs and IT Directors at last week's Gartner
Symposium/ITxpo Orlando 2009 <http://blogs.gartner.com/symposium-times/>.

Gartner is the largest and most respected analyst firm in the world and much
of what Schmidt said in his 45 minute interview was directed specifically at
business leaders, but we've excerpted 6
minutes<http://www.tubechop.com/watch/32815>that we believe is of
interest to anyone who's touched by the web.

Highlighted comments include:

   - Five years from now the internet will be dominated by Chinese-language
   content.
   - Today's teenagers are the model of how the web will work in five years
   - they jump from app to app to app seamlessly.
   - Five years is a factor of ten in Moore's
Law<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore%27s_law>,
   meaning that computers will be capable of far more by that time than they
   are today.
   - Within five years there will be broadband well above 100MB in
   performance - and distribution distinctions between TV, radio and the web
   will go away.
   - "We're starting to make signifigant money off of Youtube", content will
   move towards more
video.<http://www.readwriteweb.com/reports/real-time-web.php>
   - "Real time information is just as valuable as all the other
   information, we want it included in our search results."
   - There are many companies beyond Twitter and Facebook doing real time.
   - "We can index real-time info now - but how do we rank it?"
   - It's because of this fundamental shift towards user-generated
   information that people will listen more to other people than to traditional
   sources. Learning how to rank that "is the great challenge of the age."
   Schmidt believes Google can solve that problem.

There's lots more in the full 45 minutes of Schmidt's
interview<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHxub_yQfig>,
including a statement that a Google OS Netbook will be here in 2010, with
HTML5 local caching for offline use.

That's the roadmap, though, that's guiding much of what Google is doing
today. From Chrome
OS<http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/the_google_os_becomes_reality_go...>to
Google
Social Search<http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_search_gets_personal_soci...>
.

Does that sound like a compelling vision of the future? Not discussed were
distributed social networking, structured data, recommendations, presence
data and other factors that could complicate Google's plans. What do you
think the web will look like in five years?


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Irapuan Martinez  
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 More options Oct 28, 12:02 pm
From: Irapuan Martinez <irap...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:02:37 -0200
Local: Wed, Oct 28 2009 12:02 pm
Subject: Re: 未来5年

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Irapuan Martinez <irap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "We can index real-time info now - but how do we rank it?"

É um fato.

Assino um Google Alert que detecta toda vez que a keyword  "Arqhp" é
mencionada e indexada pelo Google.

Tópicos criados um dia antes, já estão caindo na indexação.

É a twitterização da web.


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Marcio Ghiraldelli  
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From: Marcio Ghiraldelli <marcio...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:04:43 -0200
Local: Wed, Oct 28 2009 12:04 pm
Subject: Re: [arqHP] 未来5年
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Irapuan Martinez  
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From: Irapuan Martinez <irap...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 14:14:25 -0200
Local: Wed, Oct 28 2009 12:14 pm
Subject: Re: [arqHP] Re: 未来5年
2009/10/28 Marcio Ghiraldelli <marcio...@gmail.com>

Eu não teria tanta pressa. A China é um nincho (rima involuntária),
não um padrão.

Já não é de hoje que vejo yuppies aflitos colocando seus filhos em
aulas de chinês, achando que terão melhores oportunidades de emprego
se falarem mandarin. O inglês é universal não pela quantidade de
gente, mas pela cobertura geográfica de talkers. É uma prática
convenção, e já meio antiga.

Embora nincho, ainda signifique oportunidades, certo? Pero supuesto.
Mas convém lembrar que a China é uma concentração local. Exceto que
você for comer cachorro lá, precisa ser pela internet. Aquela, que o
governo censura. Seja para evitar que a juventude seja transviada,
seja para que o governo capte para si oportunidade de negócios.

Não que eu já tenha achado que aprender uma nova língua seja um
desperdício de tempo. Esta semana, conversando com uma psicóloga, ela
me confirmou: A qualidade de cognição depende do repertório de
palavras. Não é uma relação direta, mas é verdadeira: Dicionários
ambulantes pensam melhor. Dominar outras línguas é o meio óbvio de
aprender novos conceitos traduzidos em palavras. Quando mais na China,
que "oportunidade" e "crise" são sinônimos (tá, eu sei, isto é um mito
da internet).


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Camilo Oliveira  
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From: Camilo Oliveira <lis...@camilo87.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 16:36:15 -0200
Local: Wed, Oct 28 2009 2:36 pm
Subject: Re: [arqHP] Re: 未来5年

Dei uma olhada nos comentários:

se alguem quiser ir atras, só repara que os numeros no meu email
tao errados, na verdade sao os comentarios n. #7 e #8.

Quando copiei, o Gmail numerou novamente.

   1.

   Figuring out how to rank real-time social content is "the great challenge
   of the age,"

   APML's time is almost here :)

   Posted by: Chris Saad <http://www.apml.org/> | October 27, 2009
2:59 PM<http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_web_in_five_years.php#com...>

   2.

   Chris, you may very well be right!

    Posted by: Marshall Kirkpatrick <http://www.readwriteweb.com/> [image:
   Author Profile Page] <http://www.readwriteweb.com/> | October 27, 2009
   3:04 PM<http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/google_web_in_five_years.php#com...>

Fui pesquisar sobre esse tal APML e achei interessante.
Alguém ja fez alguma coisa em cima dele?

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Camilo Oliveira

Portfólio - http://www.camilo87.com
Design Coletivo - http://designcoletivo.com


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Cleber Gouvêa  
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From: Cleber Gouvêa <cleb...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:34:33 -0300
Local: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 7:34 am
Subject: Re: [arqHP] Re: 未来5年

2009/10/28 Camilo Oliveira <lis...@camilo87.com>

> Fui pesquisar sobre esse tal APML e achei interessante.
> Alguém ja fez alguma coisa em cima dele?

Os tutoriais que li sobre o assunto eram todos de 2007, vários sites
adotaram o formato (Digg, Google Reader) mas parece que o problema é definir
um padrão para que os valores estabelecidos pelas aplicações para os
conteúdos possam fazer sentido. Não adianta o Google Reader ter um algoritmo
que analise o APML e sugira notícias relacionadas ao histórico, se o Digg
utiliza outra tecnologia e assume outro tipo de peso, a "atenção" é
dispersada daí.

Mas a idéia é interessante, faz parte do dataportability.org e pode ser
associada aos demais padrões incluídos lá.

Cleber


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Camilo Oliveira  
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From: Camilo Oliveira <lis...@camilo87.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 11:55:29 -0200
Local: Thurs, Oct 29 2009 9:55 am
Subject: Re: [arqHP] Re: 未来5年

2009/10/29 Cleber Gouvêa <cleb...@gmail.com>

> Não adianta o Google Reader ter um algoritmo que analise o APML e sugira
> notícias relacionadas ao histórico, se o Digg utiliza outra tecnologia e
> assume outro tipo de peso, a "atenção" é dispersada daí.

Imagina se isso vai pra frente e alguém começa a cruzar isso em vários
sites?
Dá até medo.

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Camilo Oliveira

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Design Coletivo - http://designcoletivo.com


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Marcio Ghiraldelli  
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From: Marcio Ghiraldelli <marcio...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:08:29 -0200
Local: Fri, Oct 30 2009 10:08 am
Subject: Re: [arqHP] Re: 未来5年

"Internet terá endereços em caracteres não-latinos."

A medida está sendo considerada pela Icann como "a maior mudança na internet
desde que foi inventada, há 40 anos" e reconhece o caráter global da rede.

A proposta foi aprovada em primeira instância em 2008 e permitirá que
endereços sejam escritos em árabe, chinês ou japonês, por exemplo.

http://www.inovacaotecnologica.com.br/noticias/noticia.php?artigo=int...


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Fabio Ortolan  
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From: Fabio Ortolan <fabio.orto...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:19:33 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Fri, Oct 30 2009 2:19 pm
Subject: Re: 未来5年
Desde de que eu conheço a internet é a mesma ladainha. O problema
destes endereços é o encoding.

Se o windows fosse UTF acho que isto já seria uma realidade.

Já teve 2 gramdes chances, mas perdeu as duas.:(

On Oct 30, 12:08 pm, Marcio Ghiraldelli <marcio...@gmail.com> wrote:


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