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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 19:13:40 +0200
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Subject: Re: Retirement from Arora
From: Randolph Dohm <rdohm...@googlemail.com>
To: arora-dev@googlegroups.com
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2011/6/20 Benjamin Meyer <b...@meyerhome.net>

I am formally announcing my retirement from Arora.
>
>  I have stopped developing Arora.  and not being allowed to develop any
> feature that didn't exist on another browser, the fun of Arora was zapped=
.
> I am proud of what Arora became. The best illustration of the code qualit=
y
> has to be when I discover code I originally wrote for Arora in other brow=
ser
> projects. ..that FireFox or Chrome had, but the features it had were stab=
le
> and worked.  Which isn't to say it had no features, ... adblock, ..

 I hope to work with you on future projects.
>
> -Benjamin Meyer


Dear Benjamin Meyer,

A Browser is the most used App for Everybody in the internet. You made with
your going ahead with Webkit and Qt such a great contribution, Geckoo has
been made faster, small c++ browser project had you and Arora as a role
model for their development and third open source has been pushed. I wish
linux on mobile phones would have suche a great contribution, meego at noki=
a
never seems to come out. It is a pitty. But for the Browser colleagues, it
is something to be proud of and it=C2=B4s a great contribution to. See.. fo=
r me
it is not important to have this or that feature, it is more a view to the
environment, systemical (not systematical) environment influences are so
powerful, and you have been contributing to it. I still wounder, how you
made so much code and feature true in the short time and build a community
to support Arora. I played araound with a colleague project Dooble Web
browser http://dooble.sf.net and made one icon theme for it. Unfortunately
nothing more I can do in c++, but the Adblock feature I would like to see a=
s
well in this ongoing browser, maybe you or someone wants to support this
followup colleague as well with the adblock feature.
As dooble is as well open source, we are one. Dunno if Arora will be
maintained by others, as for some long time now currently no substantial
commit has been done. Making 80:20 is the pareto optimum and the last 20 %
is really hard work, which might be only interesting, if something new can
be developed (see above your wish to creat new things). The current compile
of dooble web browser shows, that a password is needed to open the browser,
and then bookmarks and history URLs are present. Great thing, if not someon=
e
else is taking this idea before the dooble release is done soon, it will be
worldwide the first browser which starts with a passwordpromt. Maybe I can
talk with the developers, if someone wants to add he addblock feature to
dooble. Same for this mailinglist, would you as the list admin agree to
subscribe the members of the arora mailinglist as well to the dooble browse=
r
mailinglist? or, if someone is interested now, the link is here:
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dooble-team Maybe it makes
sense to merge/do*u*ble it for synergies and colleagues-ness. I believe wit=
h
you in Open Source - and not in Brands. compare it with the cycle of life:
the ideas and sense and values live on with and in our children. Same for
open source, the code will go to others for inspiration and copy and
integration. At the end of our life we have to leave the house, if we
believe in recarnation or not. Maybe the brand Arora is dead as a project,
if the project leader ends up and noone really wants the last 20 percent to
maintain. but the ideas and the open source code will live forever and live=
s
on, as approach or a text lines. Qt Webkit Browser, Firefox, Chrome, Dooble=
,
Safari, Opera, KMelon and Konqueror.. all are with Arora, if they are open
source or at least to allow the free web read for the users..
You ask for next projects, what do you have in mind.. we can work on. any
idea about a p2p websearch in c++ like www.yacy.net ? or a simple c++
interface and node for it? maybe you want to blog in a few months, what
ideas you have.
Until that, enjoy the summer and come back with some great ideas for most
users of the web, e.g. a messenger ..

Regards and thanks for your lead of/to modern browsing.
Randolph

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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">2011/6/20 Benjamin Meyer <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:b...@meyerhome.net" target=3D"_blank">b...@meyerhome.net</a>=
&gt;</span><br><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 =
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

I am formally announcing my retirement from Arora.<br>
<br>=C2=A0I have stopped developing Arora.=C2=A0 and not being allowed to d=
evelop any feature that didn&#39;t exist on another browser, the fun of Aro=
ra was zapped.=C2=A0 <br>
I am proud of what Arora became. The best illustration of the code quality =
has to be when I discover code I originally wrote for Arora in other browse=
r projects. ..that FireFox or Chrome had, but the features it had were stab=
le and worked. =C2=A0Which isn&#39;t to say it had no features, ... adblock=
, ..=C2=A0</blockquote>

<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex"> I hope to work with yo=
u on future projects.<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
-Benjamin Meyer</font></blockquote></div><br>Dear Benjamin Meyer,<br><br>A =
Browser is the most used App for Everybody in the internet. You made with y=
our going ahead with Webkit and Qt such a great contribution, Geckoo has be=
en made faster, small c++ browser project had you and Arora as a role model=
 for their development and third open source has been pushed. I wish linux =
on mobile phones would have suche a great contribution, meego at nokia neve=
r seems to come out. It is a pitty. But for the Browser colleagues, it is s=
omething to be proud of and it=C2=B4s a great contribution to. See.. for me=
 it is not important to have this or that feature, it is more a view to the=
 environment, systemical (not systematical) environment influences are so p=
owerful, and you have been contributing to it. I still wounder, how you mad=
e so much code and feature true in the short time and build a community to =
support Arora. I played araound with a colleague project Dooble Web browser=
 <a href=3D"http://dooble.sf.net" target=3D"_blank">http://dooble.sf.net</a=
> and made one icon theme for it. Unfortunately nothing more I can do in c+=
+, but the Adblock feature I would like to see as well in this ongoing brow=
ser, maybe you or someone wants to support this followup colleague as well =
with the adblock feature.<br>

As dooble is as well open source, we are one. Dunno if Arora will be mainta=
ined by others, as for some long time now currently no substantial commit h=
as been done. Making 80:20 is the pareto optimum and the last 20 % is reall=
y hard work, which might be only interesting, if something new can be devel=
oped (see above your wish to creat new things). The current compile of doob=
le web browser shows, that a password is needed to open the browser, and th=
en bookmarks and history URLs are present. Great thing, if not someone else=
 is taking this idea before the dooble release is done soon, it will be wor=
ldwide the first browser which starts with a passwordpromt. Maybe I can tal=
k with the developers, if someone wants to add he addblock feature to doobl=
e. Same for this mailinglist, would you as the list admin agree to subscrib=
e the members of the arora mailinglist as well to the dooble browser mailin=
glist? or, if someone is interested now, the link is here: <a href=3D"https=
://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dooble-team" target=3D"_blank">http=
s://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dooble-team</a> Maybe it makes sen=
se to merge/do*u*ble it for synergies and colleagues-ness. I believe with y=
ou in Open Source - and not in Brands. compare it with the cycle of life: t=
he ideas and sense and values live on with and in our children. Same for op=
en source, the code will go to others for inspiration and copy and integrat=
ion. At the end of our life we have to leave the house, if we believe in re=
carnation or not. Maybe the brand Arora is dead as a project, if the projec=
t leader ends up and noone really wants the last 20 percent to maintain. bu=
t the ideas and the open source code will live forever and lives on, as app=
roach or a text lines. Qt Webkit Browser, Firefox, Chrome, Dooble, Safari, =
Opera, KMelon and Konqueror.. all are with Arora, if they are open source o=
r at least to allow the free web read for the users.. <br>
You ask for next projects, what do you have in mind.. we can work on. any i=
dea about a p2p websearch in c++ like <a href=3D"http://www.yacy.net">www.y=
acy.net</a> ? or a simple c++ interface and node for it? maybe you want to =
blog in a few months, what ideas you have.<br>
Until that, enjoy the summer and come back with some great ideas for most u=
sers of the web, e.g. a messenger ..<br><br>Regards and thanks for your lea=
d of/to modern browsing.<br>Randolph<br>
<br>

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