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Re: ArFSA Meeting in Rogers

brum...@rogersark.org (Rumsey, Bill) — Tue, 15 May 2012 22:27:16 UT

We'll be there. Thanks

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RE: ArFSA Meeting in Rogers

jbirchfi...@bentonvillear.com (James Birchfield) — Tue, 15 May 2012 20:03:25 UT

Coleman,

Rod and I would like to attend.

Thanks for the invite.

James K. Birchfield
Division Chief /Fire Marshal
Bentonville Fire Department
Office: 479-271-5947
Cell: 479-531-9334

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ArFSA Meeting in Rogers

cfar...@arautosprinklers.com (Coleman Farrar) — Tue, 15 May 2012 19:35:01 UT

The Arkansas Fire Sprinkler Association is having our next meeting in Rogers on May 23rd at 11:30 at Rolando's Restaurant.

We will have a guest speaker giving a two hour presentation on seismic bracing of fire sprinkler systems.

Please let me know if you would like to attend.

Thank you,

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Smoke Alarms Saves Lives

benhamm...@sheridanfiredepartment.com (Ben Hammond) — Wed, 11 Apr 2012 22:59:20 UT

What were you doing this morning at 1 a.m.? Asleep in bed, crawling out
of your burning house with a 10 month old baby, or getting on a fire
engine?. Puts things into perspective for me...
Ben Hammond
Sheridan Fire Department

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
April 11, 2012, 2:30 a.m. (Incident 1202808)
Overnight House Fire Displaces Family at 5920 Wabash Street SW

RE: Stortz Connection Size

cjohn...@txkusa.org (TAFD-Johnson, Stephen) — Tue, 10 Apr 2012 20:49:59 UT

We have 5".
Stephen Johnson
Fire Marshal
Texarkana Arkansas Fire Department

416 E 3rd Street/PO Box 2711
Texarkana, AR 71854
Secretary (870)779-4956
Direct (870)779-4959
Fax (870)779-4993
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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RE: Stortz Connection Size

cdrigg...@fortsmithar.gov (Driggers, Chris) — Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:53:03 UT

Fort Smith uses 5 inch Stortz.
Chris Driggers
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What is the most popular Stortz size? 4 inch, 5 inch or 6 inch?
Thanks for your help.
Chris Gaut

RE: Stortz Connection Size

dcorm...@freefirepro.com (Doyle Cormier) — Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:53:13 UT

4"X 5"
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What is the most popular Stortz size? 4 inch, 5 inch or 6 inch?
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Chris Gaut

Stortz Connection Size

g...@nfsa.org (Chris Gaut NFSA) — Tue, 10 Apr 2012 19:21:12 UT

What is the most popular Stortz size? 4 inch, 5 inch or 6 inch?
Thanks for your help.
Chris Gaut

Spring 2012 AFMA AGENDA UPDATED

cjohn...@txkusa.org (TAFD-Johnson, Stephen) — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:58:06 UT

Stephen Johnson
Fire Marshal
Texarkana Arkansas Fire Department
416 E 3rd Street/PO Box 2711
Texarkana, AR 71854
Secretary (870)779-4956
Direct (870)779-4959
Fax (870)779-4993
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing. Edmund Burke
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Spring 2012 AFMA AGENDA UPDATED

brum...@rogersark.org (Rumsey, Bill) — Thu, 05 Apr 2012 13:40:08 UT

Updated agenda reflecting our Knox Company rep and the absence of Chris
Gaut from NFSA.
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Arkansas Fire Marshals Association

cjohn...@txkusa.org (TAFD-Johnson, Stephen) — Wed, 04 Apr 2012 20:35:03 UT

Only three people have made reservations for the meeting here in Texarkana. The hotel is filling up and they have removed our room block, but will honor the rate if the rooms are available. If coming or thinking of coming, you need to reserve your room.
Stephen Johnson
Fire Marshal
Texarkana Arkansas Fire Department

RE: underground fire lines

cjohn...@txkusa.org (TAFD-Johnson, Stephen) — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 14:51:54 UT

You all have given some good feedback. I am going to meet with my water service and talk with them.
I do not blame you on your responses. A product is only as good as its weakest link. If that fire line is not installed, tested , and flushed properly, your sprinkler system could be useless.
Stephen Johnson

Re: underground fire lines

brian.gerdwa...@gmail.com (Brian Gerdwagen) — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 14:26:27 UT

To agree with Ken Dunk, I think we all want to see one contractor from the
owner's control key valve, or 5' on the property line to the sprinkler
head. One contractor responsible for the entire installation.
Brian Gerdwagen FPE (CA#1728)
Cromwell AE
501-372-2900

Re: underground fire lines

kd...@dunkfire.com (Ken Dunk) — Tue, 03 Apr 2012 14:13:12 UT

As a company we refuse to hook up to an underground fire line that we did not supervise the installation, testing or flushing. Per our license and the Arkansas Fire Protection Board Rules and Regulations the fire sprinkler contractor takes all liability for all the underground fire lines. By us taking issue and with the backup of the licensing laws, we have forced the installing contractor to perform the necessary requirements. We place a bag over the flushing outlet to catch what debris has been in the underground pipes. The amount of rock and other material is staggering. Had we just hooked our sprinkler pipe up to the underground we would have allowed this material into our system. We have the rules and regs in place. It is up to the contractor to see that they are enforced. I don't know of any company wanting to accept the fact that this type of debris can block sprinkler heads and the liability that goes with it. If something like this goes to court, I guarantee that since it is under our license and is our responsibility, the sprinkler contractor will be found liable no matter who put it in. We just finished a job flushing interior sprinkler pipes on a system that we did not install because the underground had not been properly flushed. It cost the General considerably. I don't believe that it will happen on any of his future jobs. So my answer is, if the Fire Marshal is having problems with underground fire lines, look to the one with the license. The Fire Sprinkler Contractor under the present Arkansas Fire Protection Licensing Board is responsible. As it should be.

RE: underground fire lines

ggrif...@tmecorp.com (Gary Griffis) — Mon, 02 Apr 2012 16:02:16 UT

This problem has existed since the "law" was created requiring licensed sprinkler contractors to install UG piping and will remain a problem as long as there is little to no enforcement. It is like setting the speed limit by law without having hired speed regulators. Also, it is my opinion that the regulation of this is requirement should not rest on the shoulders of the local fire officials rather, the local water purveyor. When the proper licensure and/or permitting is scrutinized to the point where the owner "gets no water", then we'll be chewing on the right bone.