[Bug 683689] Re: [Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)] No indicator that input is muted

[Jonathan Lange]

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[Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)] No indicator that input is muted
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[Jonathan Lange]

Public bug reported:

When my computer boots, the audio input is completely muted. When I want
to make a Skype or Mumble call, I have to open up the Sound preferences
and uncheck the "Mute" checkbox on the input tab. I would argue that
this is a bug in itself.

However, the real bug I want to report is that there is no visible
indicator that I have to do this. Most commonly, I find out by
beginning a conversation, talking and then the other parties in the
conversation asking me whether I'm there and whether I'm muted.

ProblemType: Bug
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.10
Package: alsa-base 1.0.23+dfsg-1ubuntu4
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 2.6.35-23.41-generic 2.6.35.7
Uname: Linux 2.6.35-23-generic x86_64
AlsaVersion: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.23.
Architecture: amd64
ArecordDevices:
**** List of CAPTURE Hardware Devices ****
card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: CONEXANT Analog [CONEXANT Analog]
Subdevices: 0/1
Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
AudioDevicesInUse:
USER PID ACCESS COMMAND
/dev/snd/controlC0: jml 2156 F.... pulseaudio
/dev/snd/pcmC0D0c: jml 2156 F...m pulseaudio
/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p: jml 2156 F...m pulseaudio
Card0.Amixer.info:
Card hw:0 'Intel'/'HDA Intel at 0xf2620000 irq 46'
Mixer name : 'Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)'
Components : 'HDA:14f15051,17aa20ff,00100000'
Controls : 14
Simple ctrls : 7
Card29.Amixer.info:
Card hw:29 'ThinkPadEC'/'ThinkPad Console Audio Control at EC reg 0x30, fw 7XHT21WW-1.03'
Mixer name : 'ThinkPad EC 7XHT21WW-1.03'
Components : ''
Controls : 1
Simple ctrls : 1
Card29.Amixer.values:
Simple mixer control 'Console',0
Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined penum
Playback channels: Mono
Mono: Playback [on]
Date: Wed Dec 1 14:51:15 2010
EcryptfsInUse: Yes
PackageArchitecture: all
ProcEnviron:
PATH=(custom, user)
LANG=en_AU.UTF-8
SHELL=/bin/bash
SelectedCard: 0 Intel HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
SourcePackage: alsa-driver
Symptom: audio
Title: [Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)] Recording problem
UserAsoundrc:
# ALSA library configuration file

# Include settings that are under the control of asoundconf(1).
# (To disable these settings, comment out this line.)
</home/jml/.asoundrc.asoundconf>
dmi.bios.date: 07/30/2008
dmi.bios.vendor: LENOVO
dmi.bios.version: 6DET28WW (1.05 )
dmi.board.name: 7454A12
dmi.board.vendor: LENOVO
dmi.board.version: Not Available
dmi.chassis.asset.tag: No Asset Information
dmi.chassis.type: 10
dmi.chassis.vendor: LENOVO
dmi.chassis.version: Not Available
dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnLENOVO:bvr6DET28WW(1.05):bd07/30/2008:svnLENOVO:pn7454A12:pvrThinkPadX200:rvnLENOVO:rn7454A12:rvrNotAvailable:cvnLENOVO:ct10:cvrNotAvailable:
dmi.product.name: 7454A12
dmi.product.version: ThinkPad X200
dmi.sys.vendor: LENOVO

** Affects: alsa-driver (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

** Tags: amd64 apport-bug maverick

[Daniel T Chen]

So the problem here is that, on a nontrivial portion of hardware, having
the input unmuted alongside the output results in pretty disastrous
feedback, which is arguably a nastier user experience than an
unintuitive capture-enabled-by-default mechanism. This bit of hardware
nastiness is not limited to any subset of codecs (or revisions of
codecs, even) or controllers either, unfortunately. The question,
therefore, becomes, "Should Ubuntu choose brokenness A by default over
brokenness B?"

Now, I empathize with your frustration, but at a distro choice level,
it's very difficult to judge whether brokenness A is worthwhile over
brokenness B.

I think in this case that we should evaluate unmuting the microphone
once a pulse client connects a source-output. Any opinions?

** Package changed: alsa-driver (Ubuntu) => pulseaudio (Ubuntu)

** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
Status: New => Opinion

[Jonathan Lange]

That sounds like a good plan. Having a visual indication of whether
input is muted could be a good start that wouldn't involve choosing one
brokenness over another.

[Daniel T Chen]

** Also affects: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Wishlist

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Wishlist

[Conor Curran]

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)

Status: New => Opinion

** Also affects: indicator-sound
Importance: Undecided
Status: New

** Changed in: indicator-sound
Status: New => Opinion

** Changed in: indicator-sound
Assignee: (unassigned) => Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt)

** Tags added: design

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[Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa)] No indicator that input is muted

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