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Re: [APML] Re: Developing the 1.0 specification in Wave

mason....@gmail.com (Mason Lee) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:54:45 UT

Give it the shot then :) I'll get a notifier.

Re: Developing the 1.0 specification in Wave

pauljone...@gmail.com (Paul Jones) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:43:42 UT

I'm certainly not saying it will definitely work either - I'd just
like to give it a shot.

Re: [APML] Developing the 1.0 specification in Wave

elias.bizan...@gmail.com (Elias Bizannes) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:23:57 UT

It certainly will be the first time a widely-deployed spec has been
developed in this way, will be interesting to see.

Elias Bizannes
[link]

Re: [APML] Developing the 1.0 specification in Wave

pauljone...@gmail.com (Paul Jones) — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 06:53:16 UT

Hi Mason,

I actually quite like the amount of history that it keeps. I find the visual
diff playback quite useful - to be honest, it just never quite felt right on
the other wiki sites. However, the main key difference I've found is the
inline commenting. None of the other tools (that I know of) support this

Re: [APML] Developing the 1.0 specification in Wave

mason....@gmail.com (Mason Lee) — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:26:50 UT

Hi Paul,

In my experience, Wave is maintaining more document history than is useful and does not have a refined user experience. I'd prefer using Google Groups. If all we need is threaded comments and are not supposed to simultaneously edit the main doc, don't we already have what we need in Google Groups and the APML wiki?

Re: [APML] Re: Developing the 1.0 specification in Wave

elias.bizan...@gmail.com (Elias Bizannes) — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:27:40 UT

Me too please. I think I'm Elias.Bizannes on it.

Sent by one of those damn iPhones

On Nov 29, 2009, at 8:52 AM, Matthias Pfefferle <pfeffe...@gmail.com>
wrote:

Re: Developing the 1.0 specification in Wave

pfeffe...@gmail.com (Matthias Pfefferle) — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:52:02 UT

I would love to participate the 1.0 specification development. My
Google-Wave account is pfeffe...@googlewave.com

Thanks,
Matthias

Re: [APML] Developing the 1.0 specification in Wave

angell...@gmail.com (Ash Angell) — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:06:29 UT

Me please (you already have the address).

Ash

2009/11/29 Paul Jones <pauljone...@gmail.com>

Developing the 1.0 specification in Wave

pauljone...@gmail.com (Paul Jones) — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:05:27 UT

Hi,

Of those interested in participating in the 1.0 specification development,
does anyone not yet have a Google Wave account? I've started assembling the
first draft of the 1.0 specification there, and I'd like to see how it works
out for a non-formal initial phase of shaping up the specification. I have a

Re: [APML] xml name suggestions

pauljone...@gmail.com (Paul Jones) — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:22:37 UT

Hi Gerard,

2009/11/22 Gérard Dupont <ger.dup...@gmail.com>

possibilities. It was my intention to indicate this spec could be used
somewhat identically in either format. The only difficulty with doing that
means that you require every participant to be able to parse both formats...

As I said in my initial email, I'm hoping to get that out sometime in the

Re: [APML] xml name suggestions

pauljone...@gmail.com (Paul Jones) — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 19:20:33 UT

Hi Mason,

Great.

Does that leave open the question of how we might express general attention?
I somewhat worry that having multiple values here might make things more
complicated. My take on this this is that essentially you're wanting a
vector in 2D space here - kind of like a current value along with a velocity

Re: [APML] xml name suggestions

ger.dup...@gmail.com (Gérard Dupont) — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:49:37 UT

Hi Hennis and welcome on the list,

First you should understand that APML is just a format and thus we do not
intend to find solution to all the algorithmic question you have. For sure
those are really interesting and I'm pretty sure that all of us have these
in mind but it's really research oriented. On the other hand APML is more

Re: [APML] xml name suggestions

thiemehen...@gmail.com (thieme) — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:31:34 UT

Hi all,
with continuous interest I am following your conversation.

I would like to take the opportunity to let you know I am currently trying
to get grips of someting related to attention: "value". Rather than focusing
on interest, I would like to understand how a sense of value can be derived

Re: APML Meetup in San Francisco on Thursday

ger.dup...@gmail.com (gdupont) — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:57:26 UT

Great ! I asked for this synthesis just after reading your mail
indeed, I was afraid to miss extra good things because the attention/
interests discussion as well as the streaming are already much to
think about.

thanks

Re: [APML] Re: APML Meetup in San Francisco on Thursday

pauljone...@gmail.com (Paul Jones) — Sun, 22 Nov 2009 17:05:33 UT

The email I sent previously was a fairly thorough summary of the discussions
(I hoped).