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Pfefferle  
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 More options Dec 28 2007, 7:26 am
From: Pfefferle <pfeffe...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:26:26 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Dec 28 2007 7:26 am
Subject: Distributing several APML files the DiSo way
I want to use the WordPress APML Plugin to provide all APML files a
user have. For example the native WordPress APML, several tastebroker
APMLs and some Engagd APMLs. There are several possibilities to do so:

* Merging the files: To merge all files to one big APML file.
Advantage: You have only one file to provide. Disadvantage: The file
is blown-up very fast.

* Diverting the source attribute from its intended use: <Source
key="http://research.sun.com:8080/AttentionProfile/apml/last.fm/
pfefferle" name="tastebroker.org" value="1.00" type="application/rss
+xml" from="tastebroker.org" updated="2007-03-11T01:55:00Z"><Author
key="Sample" value="0.5" from="tastebroker.org"
updated="2007-03-11T01:55:00Z" />
Advantage: You only have to provide one file. Disadvantage: No
determination between apml files you like and own apml files you
provide.

* Using OPML: Providing your APML files through one OPML file:
<outline type="category" title="APML">
  <outline text="last.fm" type="apml" xmlUrl="http://research.sun.com:
8080/AttentionProfile/apml/last.fm/pfefferle" htmlUrl="" updated=""/>
  <outline text="notizblog.org" type="apml" xmlUrl="http://
notizblog.org/apml/" htmlUrl="" updated=""/>
</outline>
Advantage: Providing only one file. Disadvantage: The parser has to
parse the OPML first.

Any other suggestions, or what do you think is the best way?


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Paul Jones  
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 More options Dec 28 2007, 7:33 am
From: "Paul Jones" <pauljone...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:33:45 +0000
Local: Fri, Dec 28 2007 7:33 am
Subject: Re: [APML] Distributing several APML files the DiSo way

> I want to use the WordPress APML Plugin to provide all APML files a
> user have. For example the native WordPress APML, several tastebroker
> APMLs and some Engagd APMLs. There are several possibilities to do so:

> * Merging the files: To merge all files to one big APML file.
> Advantage: You have only one file to provide. Disadvantage: The file
> is blown-up very fast.

This would be my preferred option, as it allows APML consumers to not have
to understand the concept of retrieving multiple APML files.

> * Diverting the source attribute from its intended use: <Source
> key="http://research.sun.com:8080/AttentionProfile/apml/last.fm/
> pfefferle" name="tastebroker.org" value="1.00" type="application/rss
> +xml" from="tastebroker.org" updated="2007-03-11T01:55:00Z"><Author
> key="Sample" value="0.5" from="tastebroker.org"
> updated="2007-03-11T01:55:00Z" />
> Advantage: You only have to provide one file. Disadvantage: No
> determination between apml files you like and own apml files you
> provide.

I'd get the feeling this could be a bit confusing. And the source attribute
doesn't actually imply that you want to draw in the given content, which
this strategy would require.

> * Using OPML: Providing your APML files through one OPML file:
> <outline type="category" title="APML">
>  <outline text="last.fm" type="apml" xmlUrl="http://research.sun.com:
> 8080/AttentionProfile/apml/last.fm/pfefferle" htmlUrl="" updated=""/>
>  <outline text="notizblog.org" type="apml" xmlUrl="http://
> notizblog.org/apml/" htmlUrl="" updated=""/>
> </outline>
> Advantage: Providing only one file. Disadvantage: The parser has to
> parse the OPML first.

This is an option, but again I'd still prefer just to merge the APML files.

> Any other suggestions, or what do you think is the best way?

No others that I can think of at the moment. All good ideas to mull over
though. Thanks!

Paul.


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henri.bergius@iki.fi  
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 More options Dec 28 2007, 7:37 am
From: "henri.berg...@iki.fi" <henri.berg...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 04:37:21 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Dec 28 2007 7:37 am
Subject: Re: Distributing several APML files the DiSo way
Hi,

On Dec 28, 2:33 pm, "Paul Jones" <pauljone...@gmail.com> wrote:

> > * Merging the files: To merge all files to one big APML file.
> > Advantage: You have only one file to provide. Disadvantage: The file
> > is blown-up very fast.
> This would be my preferred option, as it allows APML consumers to not have
> to understand the concept of retrieving multiple APML files.

This is the approach I'm following with Midgard:

* Gather attention data from all over (external APML files, web2.0
services, local Midgard storage) and store in a central DB
* Split the attention items to profiles as needed
* Serve everything in one big APML file (or a profile-specific file if
requested)

> Paul.

/Henri

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Mike Reynolds  
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 More options Dec 30 2007, 2:08 pm
From: Mike Reynolds <reynm...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 11:08:56 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sun, Dec 30 2007 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: Distributing several APML files the DiSo way
Progressing via baby steps is a good way to go.  Let's first figure
out how to make use of APML (meaning creating relevant content based
on APML).  After we can do this, it makes more sense on figuring out
what aggregating algorithms work best.  So let's crawl before we run.

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Chris Saad  
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 More options Dec 30 2007, 6:54 pm
From: "Chris Saad" <ch...@faradaymedia.com>
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 09:54:41 +1000
Local: Sun, Dec 30 2007 6:54 pm
Subject: Re: [APML] Re: Distributing several APML files the DiSo way

I think both are fairly small steps - no harm in two different people/groups
attempting to solve the two given problems :)

Chris

On Dec 31, 2007 5:08 AM, Mike Reynolds <reynm...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Progressing via baby steps is a good way to go.  Let's first figure
> out how to make use of APML (meaning creating relevant content based
> on APML).  After we can do this, it makes more sense on figuring out
> what aggregating algorithms work best.  So let's crawl before we run.

--
Chris Saad
FaradayMedia.com - For Audiences of One
Particls.com - Are You Paying Attention?
Engagd.com - The Open Attention Platform
Media2.0Workgroup.org - Social, Democratic, Distributed
APML.org - The OPML of Attention
DataPortability.org - The next frontier; Data

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