Animal bone

[Chris Puttick]

Any interest in collaborating on the development of an animal bone
recording/reporting system? Preferably web frontend and spatially
enabled database at the back and open source, of course. Or is there
one available already?

Chris

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[ce...@uchicago.edu]

Is there anything along these lines going on at BoneCommons
(http://www.alexandriaarchive.org/icaz/icazForum/index.php)?

-Chuck-

[eka...@alexandriaarchive.org]

Bonecommons is just a forum. One of our experiences with it is that
the web resources have to be tightly tied to the very active zooarch
list to get much use. The main activity seen by Bonecommons comes from
the fact that the zooarch list does not allow attachments. When people
have bone id questions, they post a picture on the forum, and alert
people on the list.

That said, we'd love to work with some other folks in having a more
ideal application along the lines suggested by Chris. Bonecommons is
pretty active, and it would be a great complementary service.
-Eric

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[MAY, Keith]

Hi Chris,

 

perhaps not exactly what you had in mind, but worth checking out for different aspects of recording.

 

http://ads.ahds.ac.uk/catalogue/specColl/abmap

 

Best wishes

Keith

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[Ian Johnson]

You might want to build it in a Heurist instance (HeuristScholar.org) -
already spatially enabled, soft-coded record types, bibliographic data,
typed relationships between any two records, integrated blog and rich
text, enumerated fields (a bit weak for now on more sophistircated
classification, but if someone wants ot work on that we're happy to
collaborate), attached files and images, XML output rendered through
Cocoon, workgroups etc. All 'out of the box'. It is free but not (yet)
O/S, but will be released as O/S this year (yes, we do want to do some
work on it before we release our most embarassing bits of code ...!).

Ian

On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Chris Puttick wrote:

> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:21:52 +0000
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[Brian]

Chris,
Have you come across this one? Possibly (probably) not spatially
enabled, but it is published..

http://intarch.ac.uk/journal/issue13/harland_index.html

Brian

On Jan 28, 4:21 pm, Chris Puttick <cputt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Any interest in collaborating on the development of an animal bone
> recording/reporting system? Preferably web frontend and spatially
> enabled database at the back and open source, of course. Or is there
> one available already?
>
> Chris
>
> --

> My employers website:http://thehumanjourney.net- opinions in this

[Chris Puttick]

Thanks for that Brian. The York system has been pointed out to me and
I hope will make an excellent starting point, but as it is the
underlying technology is significantly limited at least for our
interests at OA:

(a) spatially enabled is potentially very useful;
(b) we want to scale up so the system would hold multiple sites to
facilitate/enable new research questions;
(c) we want people to be able to use it without any
restrictions/prerequisites beyond access to a computer;
(d) the negative feedback around the York system (I'm told) is
directed primarily at the interface and its recording agenda - we
would want to separate data and interfaces so that multiple interfaces
could be used depending on need/research agenda, and the parameters of
that interface stored along with the inputted data so that future
researchers would (following one of Lief's homilies) know what data
had *not* been recorded/required.

I've had some off-list feedback as well, suggesting that this would
really be something of interest to the wider archeology community.
Next steps? Maybe a name and a Launchpad site to start gathering
input. Any takers?

Chris

2009/1/29 Brian <bria...@gmail.com>:

My employers website: http://thehumanjourney.net - opinions in this

[Chris Puttick]

And now have clearance from and support of the original York system
developer to update and improve their system. All volunteers form an
orderly line...

2009/1/29 Chris Puttick <cput...@gmail.com>:

[Chris Puttick]

For those awaiting news of this development and wondering what on
earth has happened, it is a sad but simple tale. As this will be an
open source project (with already a broad spread of people interested
in being involved) it will be developed in the open, using Launchpad
and the Open Archaeology umbrella project
(http://launchpad.net/openarchaeology). But to do this we have
register a project, which needs a name. And we can't come up with a
good one :(

Note we would hope that the project would have use outside of English
speaking countries, so ideally the name should be not dependent on
English. On the other had we are limited to the Latin alphabet for
various reasons. I thought something like the Latin phrase for "animal
bones analysis" or similar, or maybe the Greek-based equivalent. But
there my ideas stalled as I speak/write neither language.

Suggestions please...

Chris

2009/1/29 Chris Puttick <cput...@gmail.com>:

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[Neven Jovanovic]

Chris,

Latin for "animal bones" would be "ossa animalium" ("os animalis" in
singular). Its Greek equivalent would be "osta zoon" or "osta therion"
(it is possible also to have "ostea zoon" etc). If you are interested
(and if your mail reader displays Greek), I can provide the Greek
expressions in alphabet, uppercase or lowercase.

Yours,

Neven

Neven Jovanovic
Zagreb
Hrvatska / Croatia

[Chris Puttick]

Would there be a way in either language to express/imply small
animals? And an appropriate word that would mean "system for
recording" or similar?

Chris

2009/3/21 Neven Jovanovic <filolo...@gmail.com>:

[Chris Puttick]

See, I quite like that, partly because it is "sayable"; but what does
the final "os" stand for? Operating system? Ontology system? Or
something (sic) else?

Chris

2009/3/20 Ottevanger, Jeremy <JOtte...@museumoflondon.org.uk>:

[Ottevanger, Jeremy]

Luckily Neven answered that for me: bone, as in "os animalis". Short and sweet! And maybe the extra "o" makes it more memorable in a way.
Then again, it could just be frivolos :-)
Jeremy

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