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Kanji Hanzi  
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From: Kanji Hanzi <kanjiha...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:30:50 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 2:30 am
Subject: FREEZING Progress?!?!
Hi all,

I just joined this group, but have searched elsewhere before asking
this question, but my guess is that an answer has already
available :-)

I have been using Anki for my Japanese studies a long time and really
love this software. Absolutely indispensable. Now I have switched to
Mandarin for the time being and REALLY need to address what I find as
the only problem with me and Anki: timing.

Anki and me don't at all seem to agree on what pace we should have.
Anki is much more impatient and really overloads my studies with way
too many cards. I just have to go to the bathroom and Anki has added
tones of cards for review :-)

Just take the last couple of days: I have a mere 959 facts (1918
cards) in the deck I use on a daily basis. Not very much more than two
days of little or no Anki review has resulted in 700 - Yes, SEVEN
HUNDRED!!!! - cards to review before I will reach the bottom of the
deck again. Yikes! It will take many days to get there, since I do a
lot of writing when I review. Not acceptable for me right now.

Let's initially skip the possible advanced settings that could
regulate this mess, but first see if there is no pause/freeze function
somewhere in Anki: stop the TIMER/SPACING here and now. I have a
rather old version of Anki on this computer - 0.3.8 - but since I
don't like to fix what isn't broken I haven't bothered to update to a
more recent version. Should I do so to solve my dilemma??

Thanks


 
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Andrew  
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From: Andrew <wrigh...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 23:47:17 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 2:47 am
Subject: Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!
Your request has been made many times on the forums. If you search a
little bit, I'm sure you'll find several discussions. The answer is
that it's a very bad idea to freeze the timer.

700 cards appearing in two days with a 1918 card deck sounds unusual.
Maybe your material is too difficult. Could you paste in your deck
statistics and describe the card model that you use?

On Jan 2, 4:30 pm, Kanji Hanzi <kanjiha...@gmail.com> wrote:


 
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Kanji Hanzi  
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From: "Kanji Hanzi" <kanjiha...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 09:15:44 +0100
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 3:15 am
Subject: Re: [anki] Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Andrew <wrigh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Your request has been made many times on the forums.

If you search a little bit, I'm sure you'll find several discussions. The

> answer is
> that it's a very bad idea to freeze the timer.

Searched more than a little bit, but didn't find anything on freez*, stop
etc.

I really don't care if it's generally considered a bad idea or not.
Personally I find that it is an excellent idea to avoid stress.

700 cards appearing in two days with a 1918 card deck sounds unusual.

> Maybe your material is too difficult.

No, it's very basic. What perhaps could be said that I am on the cautious
side and not pushing new stuff into the future as fast as I POSSIBLY could.
Am changing this now and kick every card 5-7 or 10 days into the future if I
simply hasn't no clue at all. Then I repeat "tomorrow" (which actually ought
to be 14-16+ hours insted of 8-10 which isn't tomorrow according to MY
definition).

> Could you paste in your deck
> statistics and describe the card model that you use?

Is it possible to first get an answer: Can you freeze progress or not? Your
"bad idea" comment suggests that it indeed **IS** possible? Where and how?
(Yes, I have searched :-) )

Thanks!


 
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Damien Elmes  
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From: "Damien Elmes" <resol...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 17:52:16 +0900
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 3:52 am
Subject: Re: [anki] Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!
Search for pausing the deck.

Re the number of cards due, it depends on the speed you're adding new
material. If you use Anki's default 20 new cards per day, the numbers
you're getting are very unlikely.


 
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From: "Michael Penkov" <misha.pen...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 19:56:42 +1100
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 3:56 am
Subject: Re: [anki] Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!
2009/1/2 Kanji Hanzi <kanjiha...@gmail.com>:

> On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Andrew <wrigh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Your request has been made many times on the forums.

>> If you search a little bit, I'm sure you'll find several discussions. The
>> answer is
>> that it's a very bad idea to freeze the timer.

> Searched more than a little bit, but didn't find anything on freez*, stop
> etc.

Perhaps you could search a bit harder:

http://groups.google.com/group/ankisrs/search?group=ankisrs&q=pause

> I really don't care if it's generally considered a bad idea or not.
> Personally I find that it is an excellent idea to avoid stress.

You may not care, but perhaps the thousands of _other_ Anki users do.

>> 700 cards appearing in two days with a 1918 card deck sounds unusual.
>> Maybe your material is too difficult.

> No, it's very basic. What perhaps could be said that I am on the cautious
> side and not pushing new stuff into the future as fast as I POSSIBLY could.

It sounds like you've added a lot of new cards in a short period of
time.  It is tempting to do that, but in the end it is
counter-productive.

> Is it possible to first get an answer: Can you freeze progress or not? Your
> "bad idea" comment suggests that it indeed **IS** possible? Where and how?
> (Yes, I have searched :-) )

Read the link I posted above for the answer to your question.

Cheers,
Misha


 
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Andrew  
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From: Andrew <wrigh...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 01:32:10 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 4:32 am
Subject: Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!

> I really don't care if it's generally considered a bad idea or not.
> Personally I find that it is an excellent idea to avoid stress.

I would at least recommend reading the arguments for and against it
and thinking carefully about whether it's the correct solution to your
problem. I think that there is a postpone plugin which may do
something along the lines of what you are looking for. Check out the
plugins page. The functionality in that plugin is not included in the
main release because this issue has been thoroughly discussed and the
general consensus is that postponing and pausing create more problems
than they solve.

I have many writing cards in my deck and I have encountered
difficulties with them too. I'd be happy to discuss this topic. Let me
know if you're interested.


 
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Kanji Hanzi  
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From: "Kanji Hanzi" <kanjiha...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:55:45 +0100
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 5:55 am
Subject: Re: [anki] Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!

Yes, I guess I could, but obviously missed something.

> I really don't care if it's generally considered a bad idea or not.
> > Personally I find that it is an excellent idea to avoid stress.

> You may not care, but perhaps the thousands of _other_ Anki users do.

I guess those thousand of _other_ Anki users then simply don't have to push
the pause/freeze button if they don't like it, huh? I can't really see what
problem they would have with a feature they will never use.

It sounds like you've added a lot of new cards in a short period of

> time.  It is tempting to do that, but in the end it is
> counter-productive.

Again a matter of personal preferences. With Mandarin it works this way for
me: some items added are almost instantly learned/memorized and some take
much more repetition. I can't tell this for sure when I add a new Hanzi,
word or phrase so I add quite a lot as soon as I have reached the bottom of
the deck. I have no problem whatsoever to keep up if I use this method on a
daily basis with a couple of sessions every day.

> Is it possible to first get an answer: Can you freeze progress or not?
> Your
> > "bad idea" comment suggests that it indeed **IS** possible? Where and
> how?
> > (Yes, I have searched :-) )

> Read the link I posted above for the answer to your question.

It seems like the short answer could have been: No. But I will continue
reading :-)

Thanks


 
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Kanji Hanzi  
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 More options Jan 2 2009, 6:04 am
From: "Kanji Hanzi" <kanjiha...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 12:04:00 +0100
Subject: Re: [anki] Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Damien Elmes <resol...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Search for pausing the deck.

> Re the number of cards due, it depends on the speed you're adding new
> material. If you use Anki's default 20 new cards per day, the numbers
> you're getting are very unlikely.

I am usually adding less than that, but some days I have more time and add
more new facts/cards.

I understand that this feature is not available, but haven't got a simple
yes or no reply :-)

I am not a fan of software (or developers) dictating EXACTLY what I should
do and not do. Wouldn't this best be left to the user to decide? I'll look
at the plugin to see if it is of any use. Otherwise I guess I have to use
multiple decks to work AT MY OWN PACE.

I am currently taking lessons at ChinesePod.com and there is a lot of really
useful vocabulary I would like to add at the same time as I do the lessons.
I am paying $29/month for this service and is not really pleased to wait
with new lessons there because you/anki decides that *That's Best For You*.
Tick, tick, tick and my money spent on CP.com goes up in smoke :-)

Anyhow: despite this lack of an essential feature I think you have done a
remarkable job with Anki. Thanks!


 
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From: Andrew <wrigh...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 04:37:37 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 7:37 am
Subject: Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!

> I am currently taking lessons at ChinesePod.com and there is a lot of really
> useful vocabulary I would like to add at the same time as I do the lessons.
> I am paying $29/month for this service and is not really pleased to wait
> with new lessons there because you/anki decides that *That's Best For You*.
> Tick, tick, tick and my money spent on CP.com goes up in smoke :-)

You can add as much material to your deck as you like and you can
control how many new cards you study every day. If you have 700 cards
waiting then it might be a good idea not to study any new cards at
all. Anki defaults to introduce up to 20 new cards every day, a
setting which you can change, and you can also decide whether new
cards are distributed throughout the other cards or whether they
always come at the end.

Therefore the material you get from cp.com can be saved and you can
deal with it when you're ready.

Anki is open source software so if you decide not to listen to the
advice of people on this forum, you can use the plugin I mentioned,
write your own if it's not adequate or pay someone to do it for you.
Accusing the developer of dictating to you is rude and unfair. The
developer has to make choices about the features Anki will have and I
can tell you from experience that he listens carefully to suggestions
and good arguments. You have paid nothing for an excellent piece of
software.


 
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Kanji Hanzi  
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From: "Kanji Hanzi" <kanjiha...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 14:33:16 +0100
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 8:33 am
Subject: Re: [anki] Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Andrew <wrigh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Anki defaults to introduce up to 20 new cards every day, a
> setting which you can change, and you can also decide whether new
> cards are distributed throughout the other cards or whether they
> always come at the end.

OK. I will look into the option to distribute new material more generously
into an existing deck, as well as the option to have a more flexible setting
for the default.

Therefore the material you get from cp.com can be saved and you can

> deal with it when you're ready.

I AM ready! :-) That's the very reason to why I ask here and now. I want to
add and review these words NOW. In that way I can consider a lesson finished
and move on to the next one. CP lessons are published on an almost daily
basis.

Anki is open source software so if you decide not to listen to the

> advice of people on this forum,

Yes, I listen. But decide that the advice is not very useful for me now. I.e
of little help.

> you can use the plugin I mentioned,

Will do.

> write your own if it's not adequate or pay someone to do it for you.

Can't program. Can't afford a programmer.

> Accusing the developer of dictating to you is rude and unfair.

Perhaps I should have used "deciding" instead. Sorry about the slightly edgy
word.

The developer has to make choices about the features Anki will have and I

> can tell you from experience that he listens carefully to suggestions
> and good arguments.

It doesn't seem like has listened to suggestions about this particular
feature, considering that it has been brought up so many times that I really
shouldn't have asked in the first place. It seems like considerations
regarding the purity of the SRS philosophy weighs more than the requests
from users, but I could be wrong there. I don't find it very appropriate, as
been done here, telling "this and that is REALLY good for you and what you
yourself want is BAD". I prefer to have a clue abo

> You have paid nothing for an excellent piece of software.

I am perfectly aware of that and am EXTREMELY GRATEFUL being able to use it
for free. I also wrote that in a previous post, didn't I.

Thanks for taking your time to reply.


 
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From: Porco-esphino <BodeyBa...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 07:21:33 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 10:21 am
Subject: Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!

> I have a rather old version of Anki on this computer - 0.3.8

No one commented on this. Half a deck in two days is odd and I though
the scheduler had changed since 0.3.8...

> If you use Anki's default 20 new cards per day, the numbers you're getting are very unlikely.

I'm sure that's a newer feature then 0.3.8

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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 11:34:06 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 2:34 pm
Subject: Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!
do you use anki every day? or how often?

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From: "Damien Elmes" <resol...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 06:27:21 +0900
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 4:27 pm
Subject: Re: [anki] Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!

>> I have a rather old version of Anki on this computer - 0.3.8

> No one commented on this. Half a deck in two days is odd and I though
> the scheduler had changed since 0.3.8...

I didn't notice that. A huge amount has changed since 0.3.8

 
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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 22:46:30 +0100
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 4:46 pm
Subject: Re: [anki] Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 8:34 PM, cmhm123 <cmhm...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> do you use anki every day? or how often?

Every day. Normally when it's not New Year Celebration or other
distractions  :-) Usually I do one session at night to get the stack to zero
and then look now and then during the next day to see how much has been
piled up. Can require one or two shorter sessions during the day. And then I
repeat in the evening going to zero. Etc. Etc.

 
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From: "Damien Elmes" <reso...@ichi2.net>
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 06:47:20 +0900
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 4:47 pm
Subject: Re: [anki] Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!

>> The developer has to make choices about the features Anki will have and I
>> can tell you from experience that he listens carefully to suggestions
>> and good arguments.

> It doesn't seem like has listened to suggestions about this particular
> feature, considering that it has been brought up so many times that I really
> shouldn't have asked in the first place.

A silly idea remains a silly idea no matter how many people ask for
it. There is a difference between listening and acting. You've openly
stated that you do not have the knowledge to write it yourself, nor
the money to pay someone to do it. I've openly stated that I think
it's a silly idea, and I've provided ample justification in the past.
To say I'm "not listening" because I don't want to add a feature I
think is stupid is a bit rude, to be honest. Saying "I love Anki, but
you're not listening" doesn't really soften the blow either. And when
you write off the advice that other people on the forum have given
you, I'm inclined to think the person who's not listening is not me
;-)

 
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From: "Kanji Hanzi" <kanjiha...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 23:49:17 +0100
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 5:49 pm
Subject: Re: [anki] Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!

Well, I'm returning to the use of "the developer DICTATING" how the users
should use his software.

This is really a pity since you have created a very useful piece of code.
Calling fully legitimate requests for feature, deemed VERY USEFUL BY THE
USER(S), for silly ideas does no good neither for you nor the software per
se. In particular when you decline to offer any sort a rational basis for
WHY it should be silly. No, I - myself - decline to search for "why demian
thinks pause is silly".


 
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From: Andrew <wrigh...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 16:57:20 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 7:57 pm
Subject: Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!

> This is really a pity since you have created a very useful piece of code.
> Calling fully legitimate requests for feature, deemed VERY USEFUL BY THE
> USER(S), for silly ideas does no good neither for you nor the software per
> se. In particular when you decline to offer any sort a rational basis for
> WHY it should be silly.

This feature request has been brought up many times because it's very
natural to want to pause the scheduler, so that you can take a break.
When I first started using this kind of software, I wanted to do this
too. In the past, when it's been brought up in the forums, it's been
discussed and almost all of the people asking for it have realised
that freezing the scheduler is not the correct solution to the problem
they have. Please take a look. I will try and explain this rational
basis here.

It's very easy to freeze the scheduler but it's impossible to freeze
your memory. If you freeze the scheduler for five days, a card that
was supposed to appear on the 5th of January will appear on the 10th.
A card that was supposed to appear on the 15th of March will appear on
the 20th of March and so on. Every single card will appear 5 days
later than originally intended. The card that was scheduled for the
5th was scheduled for that date because Anki thinks that you need to
review it so that you won't forget it. If you delay review then the
probability that you will forget it increases. By freezing, the
probability of failing a card is higher and will remain so until you
have answered every single card in your deck (which could take a long
time - in my case 4 years).

It's really demotivating to come back from holiday and see a huge
stack of cards waiting for you but that's the reality. I think that
the postpone plugin helps to deal with this motivational issue by
introducing the due cards to you over a number of days that you
specify. So if you've got 700 cards waiting, you can specify that you
want to deal with them over a week and the plugin will introduce 100
every day rather than showing you the harsh reality of 700 from day
one.


 
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 13:01:16 +1100
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 9:01 pm
Subject: Re: [anki] Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

2009/1/3 Kanji Hanzi <kanjiha...@gmail.com>:


 
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 04:43:59 +0100
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 10:43 pm
Subject: Re: [anki] Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!

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Welcome to the fray, Mr Troll! Kind of you to introduce yourself.

 
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From: "Kanji Hanzi" <kanjiha...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 05:03:25 +0100
Local: Fri, Jan 2 2009 11:03 pm
Subject: Re: [anki] Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!

> Please take a look. I will try and explain this rational
> basis here.

Yes, I will look and listen very carefully.

> It's very easy to freeze the scheduler but it's impossible to freeze
> your memory.

I agree. Where I don't agree is that I am perfectly capable of making that
decision on my own.

> If you freeze the scheduler for five days, a card that
> was supposed to appear on the 5th of January will appear on the 10th.
> A card that was supposed to appear on the 15th of March will appear on
> the 20th of March and so on. Every single card will appear 5 days
> later than originally intended. The card that was scheduled for the
> 5th was scheduled for that date because Anki thinks that you need to
> review it so that you won't forget it. If you delay review then the
> probability that you will forget it increases.

Yes, that could very likely happen, but it's still a problem I don't think
anybody else should bother about. Now when I have had some days off from
reviewing I will of course have forgotten more than if I had BEEN reviewing.
Very logical.

By freezing, the

> probability of failing a card is higher and will remain so until you
> have answered every single card in your deck (which could take a long
> time - in my case 4 years).

What sort of deck is that? I am using Anki to study Mandarin. I add my fact
to my own deck as soon as there are new characters/words/phrases to be
memorized. It works extremely well, but I find that the mere fact that I
KNOW THAT THERE NOW ARE  748 FACTS to be reviewed before I can go back to my
normal routine to AT ONCE REVIEW new stuff. The mere fact to see that I have
such a huge stack waiting hampers my enthusiasm fro getting it finished. I
FORGET MORE and REVIEW LESS by the mere existance of this Mountain of
Cards!! Stress.

> So if you've got 700 cards waiting, you can specify that you
> want to deal with them over a week and the plugin will introduce 100
> every day rather than showing you the harsh reality of 700 from day
> one.

Yes, I will look at this plugin. I also think that I finally ought to
upgrade to the most recent version on my own computer. I have installed much
more recent versions on my kids' computers :-)

Thanks for your in-depth feedback, Andrew. Appreciated.


 
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Andrew  
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 More options Jan 3 2009, 12:55 am
From: Andrew <wrigh...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 21:55:58 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Jan 3 2009 12:55 am
Subject: Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!

> What sort of deck is that?

What I mean is that one of my cards that I find easy and that I added
a long time ago has an interval of 4 years, so I won't see it for
almost 4 years. If I freeze my deck for 5 days then it will be 5 days
late when it eventually appears in 2012. 5 days late for a card that
easy isn't a big deal, however if I go on holiday many times each year
and freeze my deck each time, that card would be delayed by the total
number of days that my deck was frozen over 4 years. This could add up
to a significant delay.

> I am using Anki to study Mandarin. I add my fact
> to my own deck as soon as there are new characters/words/phrases to be
> memorized. It works extremely well, but I find that the mere fact that I
> KNOW THAT THERE NOW ARE  748 FACTS to be reviewed before I can go back to my
> normal routine to AT ONCE REVIEW new stuff. The mere fact to see that I have
> such a huge stack waiting hampers my enthusiasm fro getting it finished. I
> FORGET MORE and REVIEW LESS by the mere existance of this Mountain of
> Cards!! Stress.

It sounds like you're getting frustrated by the fact that you can't
review material you learn during the day because you have to wait
until you've finished all 748 cards. This issue is understandable and
has been addressed in the latest version. New cards can now be spaced
out among other cards and you can introduce them slowly into your deck
on the same day that you input them, even if you've got lots of cards
waiting. Good to hear that you're considering giving it a try. Backup
your deck before doing so because there have been quite a few big
changes since 0.3.8.

> Yes, I will look at this plugin. I also think that I finally ought to
> upgrade to the most recent version on my own computer. I have installed much
> more recent versions on my kids' computers :-)

> Thanks for your in-depth feedback, Andrew. Appreciated.

Glad that it helped. Great to hear that the family is involved too. :-)

 
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 More options Jan 3 2009, 7:26 pm
From: hend...@topoi.pooq.com
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 19:26:14 -0500
Local: Sat, Jan 3 2009 7:26 pm
Subject: Re: [anki] Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!

Will he have to convert his deck from old format to new, using one of a
very specific range of old versions?

-- hendrik


 
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 More options Jan 3 2009, 3:04 pm
From: "Damien Elmes" <resol...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 05:04:38 +0900
Local: Sat, Jan 3 2009 3:04 pm
Subject: Re: [anki] Re: FREEZING Progress?!?!
If 'very specific range' is 'anything up to 0.9.8.7', then yes.


 
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