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Alexey Eromenko  
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 More options Sep 12 2012, 10:12 am
From: Alexey Eromenko <al4...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 07:12:07 -0700 (PDT)
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 10:12 am
Subject: RFC: Google - Please consider adding Kernel Framework
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Hello,

Android is quickly becoming a full-blown O.S, a desktop replacement,
and it needs more low-level abilities to go way beyond one-trick-pony
apps.

Today Android lacks of full-scale kernel framework, which sort-of
limit what can be done with Android. Namely - Android lacks the
ability to write system drivers a.k.a kernel modules.

I have described the problem in detail.

I would like to hear some comments on Wish #37260.
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=37260

Some Android developers disagree that there must be a way for kernel
modules to exist on Android, citing security issues, but the upside of
kernel modules is a *HUGE* one, just like going from HTML-only-apps to
native apps.
I ask Google to reconsider that decision. I ask community to comment on it.

Thanks in advance,
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-Alexey Eromenko "Technologov"


 
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Nick Kralevich  
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 More options Sep 12 2012, 11:54 am
From: Nick Kralevich <n...@google.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:54:51 -0700
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 11:54 am
Subject: Re: [android-security-discuss] RFC: Google - Please consider adding Kernel Framework
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Wow, this is an amazingly bad idea.  I can understand why it was marked
Declined.

Android is a sandboxed operating system.  By design, one application cannot
access files or resources associated with any other application. See
http://source.android.com/tech/security/index.html#linux-security , for
example.  Allowing the installation of kernel modules completely bypasses
these protections, reducing not only the security of the system, but also
the stability and reliability.

Android has no desire to repeat the mistakes of previous desktop operating
systems.  If kernel modules are a requirement for you, you are free to
create a customized version of Android.

-- Nick

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Nick Kralevich | Android Security | n...@google.com | 650.214.4037

 
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Subbu Srinivasan  
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 More options Sep 12 2012, 12:36 pm
From: Subbu Srinivasan <ssriniva...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 09:36:26 -0700
Local: Wed, Sep 12 2012 12:36 pm
Subject: Re: [android-security-discuss] RFC: Google - Please consider adding Kernel Framework
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I think we agree that Kernel modules are huge addition.

But I would side with google on this. Most users do not have ability
to distinguish between system vs non system, increases the system
vulnerability exponentially.


 
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