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Peter McDermott  
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From: Peter McDermott <pe...@nthcode.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 19:19:11 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Dec 2 2008 10:19 pm
Subject: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
Hi, all,

We ported the Android open-source release to the Nokia N810.  This
involved patching the 2.6.25 Linux kernel with the N810 drivers and
hacking the userspace just a bit.  The system can boot,  WiFi doesn't
work (so no Internet access), and you have to pull the battery to
power it off.  But, hey, it's a start!

You can downoad the kernel patch, a kernel image, a userspace image,
and a list of userspace changes at the following link:

http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=246840

For people making other ports, I wrote up a technical backgrounder
with details at:

http://nthcode.com/pubs/porting-android-to-a-new-device.html

If a someone would like to try out our patches and images and let me
know what works, and what might not be clear or correct in the
instructions, I'd be thrilled.

Regards,

Peter

P.S. Much thanks to the folks who made the pre-release Android work on
the N810 (Penguinbait, B-man, and QWERTY12).  Their work saved us a
lot of time.


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Brian Swetland  
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From: Brian Swetland <swetl...@google.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 20:30:50 -0800
Local: Tues, Dec 2 2008 11:30 pm
Subject: Re: [android-porting] Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810

Very cool.  I've got an N810 around here somewhere -- hopefully I'll
have some time this week to try this out.

How do things look for the wifi driver?  It sounded like there was a new
open source wifi driver for N8x0, but I haven't had time to check it
out.

Did you pull in the adb gadget driver to allow adb to work over usb?
The writeup (very nice) implies that's not done yet.

Brian

[Peter McDermott <pe...@nthcode.com>]


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Peter McDermott  
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From: Peter McDermott <pe...@nthcode.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:37:14 +0800
Local: Tues, Dec 2 2008 11:37 pm
Subject: Re: [android-porting] Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
Brian,

We're looking at the WiFi driver now and haven't tried adb, yet.    
Will be great to hear if you're able to make it work on your N810.

Regards,

Peter

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Mohan Parthasarathy  
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From: "Mohan Parthasarathy" <surut...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:04:45 -0800
Local: Wed, Dec 3 2008 1:04 pm
Subject: Re: [android-porting] Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810

Cool. I still have the older version of Android  running on my N810. That
was using the 2.6.21 kernel. I am wondering whether using the 2.6.21 kernel
and using Android changes would have made it a little simpler. Last time,
not all the Android Kernel changes were taken in. Anyway, your way sounds
better as you are using the latest version of Android Kernel.

Does the audio subsystem  work. Can you play videos

Thanks for the great write up. You have not mentioned any user space changes
in your note. I was trying to download it from sourceforge but it gave me
some error. I was able to download the kernel image but not the txt files.

Thanks
mohan

P.S I am having problems typing question mark and i need to reboot firefox i
guess..

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Jean-Baptiste Queru  
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From: Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@google.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 10:29:32 -0800
Local: Wed, Dec 3 2008 1:29 pm
Subject: Re: [android-porting] Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
Might it make sense instead of playing constant catch-up to move
straight ahead to 2.6.27?

JBQ


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Mohan Parthasarathy  
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From: "Mohan Parthasarathy" <surut...@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 11:37:18 -0800
Local: Wed, Dec 3 2008 2:37 pm
Subject: Re: [android-porting] Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810

I did give it a shot but did not work.

I extracted the user space on my internal sd card and that's what
corresponds to /dev/mmcbkl0p1.

I flashed the new kernel but it did not boot. After a minute or so, it reset
itself.
Let me know if i am missing something..

-mohan

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Brian Swetland  
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 More options Dec 3 2008, 3:17 pm
From: Brian Swetland <swetl...@google.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:17:17 -0800
Local: Wed, Dec 3 2008 3:17 pm
Subject: Re: [android-porting] Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
[Mohan Parthasarathy <surut...@gmail.com>]

> Cool. I still have the older version of Android  running on my N810. That
> was using the 2.6.21 kernel. I am wondering whether using the 2.6.21 kernel
> and using Android changes would have made it a little simpler. Last time,
> not all the Android Kernel changes were taken in. Anyway, your way sounds
> better as you are using the latest version of Android Kernel.

Backporting the current version of all the android drivers to .21 is a
bit of a pain.  Also, I believe userspace now depends on .25 or later
(though you could probably hunt down and work around those issues).

It'd be nice to get the n8x0 patches updated for 2.6.27 as that's where
our current kernel development is happening at the moment, but currently
there's no requirement for .27 specific features or major changes since
the .25 based trees.

Brian


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Peter McDermott  
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 More options Dec 4 2008, 12:48 am
From: Peter McDermott <pe...@nthcode.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 13:48:31 +0800
Local: Thurs, Dec 4 2008 12:48 am
Subject: Re: [android-porting] Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810

Mohan,

Did you reformat your mmc as ext3?

The text files contain some instructions about how to do this as well  
as some notes about what we had to change in the user space.  I was  
able to download them at http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=246840&package_...
  .  Did you try pressing the 'Direct Link?'  That's sometimes useful  
if the downloads don't begin automatically.

As far as what works and what doesn't, it can basically boot to the  
main menu and the touchscreen and keypad work.  That being said, the  
keypad doesn't work that well due to keymapping issues.  It's very  
proof-of-concept.

Good luck!

Peter

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Mohan Parthasarathy  
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 More options Dec 4 2008, 12:13 pm
From: "Mohan Parthasarathy" <surut...@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:13:22 -0800
Local: Thurs, Dec 4 2008 12:13 pm
Subject: Re: [android-porting] Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810

On 12/3/08, Peter McDermott <pe...@nthcode.com> wrote:

> Mohan,
> Did you reformat your mmc as ext3?

Yes.

The text files contain some instructions about how to do this as well as

> some notes about what we had to change in the user space.  I was able to
> download them at
> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=246840&package_....  Did you try pressing the 'Direct Link?'  That's sometimes useful if the
> downloads don't begin automatically.

Direct Link works, Thanks.

As far as what works and what doesn't, it can basically boot to the main

> menu and the touchscreen and keypad work.  That being said, the keypad
> doesn't work that well due to keymapping issues.  It's very
> proof-of-concept.

I feel that the issue is with the corrupt file system. At least, this used
to happen before with the old version of Android. Whenever Maemo boots, it
would never mount the filesystem on the external card (it used to be ext2).
So, i would attach to a linux PC, fsck and then mount to start android. I
suspect somehow that during the boot process, it thinks that the ext3
filesystem is corrupt. At least, maemo thinks so if i copy the userspace and
just boot maemo, it does not like the filesystem. Perhaps, it is trying to
mount as "vfat" and hence could be a completely different problem.

-thanks
mohan

Good luck!


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b-man  
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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 10:53:39 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Dec 5 2008 1:53 pm
Subject: Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810

On Dec 3, 3:19 am, Peter McDermott <pe...@nthcode.com> wrote:

b-man, here

I would like to say congratulations for accomplishing this!. I would
also like to ask you if are planning to do anything with the N800. I
am mostly asking this because i have ben contacting qwerty12, who
managed to get this installed on his N800. However, he has reported
that the touchscreen and hardware keys did not work and that he has
applyed a hack from the previous port to fix the touchscreen but has
resulted in a non-functional kernel. Do you think this could be
resolved??

Btw, there is a discussion on internettablettalk.com covering the main
subject:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=247006#post...

- Brian M


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Jean-Baptiste Queru  
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From: Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@google.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:08:01 -0800
Local: Fri, Dec 5 2008 2:08 pm
Subject: Re: [android-porting] Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
The Android platform will support soft keyboards in the foreseeable
future, which should resolve that specific issue for the N800 (or at
least will allow to write a soft keyboard that integrates with the
rest of Android and fits the N800's screen).

JBQ


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b-man  
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 More options Dec 5 2008, 2:57 pm
From: b-man <mcken...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:57:41 -0800 (PST)
Local: Fri, Dec 5 2008 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
Yes, but there allrety are 3rd party software keyboards available.

My main consern is about the N800 touchscreen/hw key drivers being
compatible with the current Android kernel. qwerty12 tryed several
times to get the drivers to work but has had no luck in doing so. I
really would like to see this problem resolved so both N800 and N810
users will have a chance at this awsome experience.

- Brian M


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Peter McDermott  
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 More options Dec 5 2008, 10:06 pm
From: Peter McDermott <pe...@nthcode.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 11:06:15 +0800
Local: Fri, Dec 5 2008 10:06 pm
Subject: Re: [android-porting] Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
Brian,

I just posted a reply over on internettablettalk.com.

We don't have any N800s to test.  But if someone can email us the  
patch qwerty12 tried, we can definitely take a look.

By the way, Yongjun managed to get the Android Debug Bridge working on  
the N810 last week.  Not having any Android hardware (until now ;) ),  
I wasn't sure how well it would integrate with Eclipse.  It is  
awesome!   We'll update the sourceforge links next week.

Regards,

Peter

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b-man  
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From: b-man <mcken...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:04:17 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
You can obtain the N800 kernel diffs from here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?dz1gtw8wttw

Good luck!!

- Brian M


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Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 20:10:10 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
More information into how qwerty12 accomplished this can be found
here:

http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21709


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Meizirkki  
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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 02:17:32 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
Nth Codes android port is not the only choise.
I am using Solcas android, witch uses kernel with wifi drivers.

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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 02:21:06 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
Mohan, i had same issue with Nth:s android.

- Remove external card, if inserted.
- Make sure you used "tar -zxvf" to untar the userspace, not "tar
zxvf" i used when i failed.

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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 04:48:55 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
On 2 dic, 21:19, Peter McDermott <pe...@nthcode.com> wrote:

> We ported the Android open-source release to the Nokia N810.  This
> involved patching the 2.6.25 Linux kernel with the N810 drivers and
> hacking the userspace just a bit.  The system can boot,  WiFi doesn't
> work (so no Internet access), and you have to pull the battery to
> power it off.  But, hey, it's a start!

Hi!

I recently but a N810 and then ported too Android to the N810, just
that
I'm running latest kernel with the stlc45xx driver.  Too bad I didn't
know
about your porting effort, maybe we haved helped each other.

I'll release my port probably the next week as I'm busy with other
things
right now.

Currently I'm working on enabling sound but more importantly chasing
an
elusive blizzard LCD controller crash.  I was figuring that there is a
lot of
work left for an usable port on the NITs as drivers are currently not
using
the Linux APIs.

Too I'm working on a graphical chooser and distro installer based on
petit-boot but for the Internet Tablets.

I put my projects here if any one is interested:

http://guug.org/nit/


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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 06:16:21 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
Wow, this is awsome, now we have two progects working hard to port
Android to our tablets. :-)

@Meizirkki

How did you get to solaca's home page?? all i've ben getting was a
"403 forbidden" error while loading the webpage.


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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 07:12:23 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
@b-man

I was getting forbidden error too, but solca gave me direct links to
his android kernel and userspace at IRC.

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From: Peter McDermott <pe...@nthcode.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 00:22:22 +0800
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Subject: Re: [android-porting] Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
Solca,

This is great!  Kudos to you for making WiFi work -- and on a newer  
kernel!   Very very cool.

Maybe we can integrate your patches into our kernel and work on some  
piece that you aren't working on so we don't duplicate effort?

Regards,

Peter

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From: Meizirkki <meizir...@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 09:46:17 -0800 (PST)
Local: Sat, Dec 6 2008 12:46 pm
Subject: Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
Wifi driver loads at boot but wifi still refuses to work, netcfg wlan0
up says:
# netcfg wlan0 up
action 'up' failed (No such file or directory)
---
That wifi driver will not compile kernels older than 2.6.28, so you
can not add it to your current kernel :(

Btw, really good work nth and solca!

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Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 13:24:25 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
I made a video about NITdroid

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6988247315953961035

As you can see it works pretty fast.
I tool keyboard layout files from Nth port.
With NITdroids basic settings the only button that worked was back.

Awesome work guys!

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Subject: Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
@Solca

Do you think it is possible to boot NITdroid from initfs??, so we can
still boot into maemo??


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Subject: Re: Android 1.0 Release Ported to Nokia N810
@b-man

Solca is making a new kind of graphical bootselector, as you can read
from his post above.

b-man kirjoitti:


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