A couple of questions about he dev phone

[Stelian Iancu]

Hi all,

I know that it is possible to build and flash your own os image on the
new dev phone. However, upon examining the source code of Android, I
noticed that the GMail application is not included (also I don't know
about the sync between Contacts and Calendar and Google Contacts and
Calendar - I have only ran the emulator with the os image I built).

So the question is: on the dev phone, will I have access to the GMail
app as well as the sync? How, is there a binary application available
somewhere?

Also, will the OTA firmware upgrade will work on the dev phone?

Thanks and regards,
Stelian

[Dianne Hackborn]

On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Stelian Iancu <stelia...@gmail.com> wrote:

I know that it is possible to build and flash your own os image on the
new dev phone. However, upon examining the source code of Android, I
noticed that the GMail application is not included (also I don't know
about the sync between Contacts and Calendar and Google Contacts and
Calendar - I have only ran the emulator with the os image I built).

The open source platform does not include Google proprietary applications.  For many things you can probably pull the desired .apks off of a production phone, but there were some changes after 1.0 to separate the Google code from Android enough to release the Android source, so there could well be some problems currently trying to run some of those 1.0 apps on a platform you build.
 

So the question is: on the dev phone, will I have access to the GMail
app as well as the sync? How, is there a binary application available
somewhere?

I don't think Google has made binaries available to their proprietary applications.
 

Also, will the OTA firmware upgrade will work on the dev phone?

I don't personally know about OTAs to the dev phones, except we could probably deliver them, but I would assume that you wouldn't want them. :)

--
Dianne Hackborn
Android framework engineer
hac...@android.com

Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to provide private support.  All such questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and answer them.

[pomac]

On Dec 14 2008, 2:07 am, "Dianne Hackborn" <hack...@android.com>
wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 13, 2008 at 2:09 PM, Stelian Iancu <stelian.ia...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > I know that it is possible to build and flash your own os image on the
> > new dev phone. However, upon examining the source code of Android, I
> > noticed that the GMail application is not included (also I don't know
> > about the sync between Contacts and Calendar and Google Contacts and
> > Calendar - I have only ran the emulator with the os image I built).
>
> The open source platform does not include Google proprietary applications.
> For many things you can probably pull the desired .apks off of a production
> phone, but there were some changes after 1.0 to separate the Google code
> from Android enough to release the Android source, so there could well be
> some problems currently trying to run some of those 1.0 apps on a platform
> you build.
>
> > So the question is: on the dev phone, will I have access to the GMail
> > app as well as the sync? How, is there a binary application available
> > somewhere?
>
> I don't think Google has made binaries available to their proprietary
> applications.
>
> > Also, will the OTA firmware upgrade will work on the dev phone?
>
> I don't personally know about OTAs to the dev phones, except we could
> probably deliver them, but I would assume that you wouldn't want them. :)

Having something more or less official from Google/Android that
includes all apps would be very useful.

Right now, for me, i feel a bit doubful when it comes to developing...
since T-Mobile users has a completely different software version with
apps that i might want to use or interact with...
In the case of T-Mobile specific software, thats another issue.

I have actually been looking for something official from google/
android in terms of firmware for the g1-dev phone for quite some time
now...

> --
> Dianne Hackborn
> Android framework engineer

> hack...@android.com

[Sympodius]

I am inclined to agree. The developer program for android has been
very strong so far and having access to developer phones is a great
benefit. I am glad to see this great push from Google in supporting
developers so well. But if the dev phones are left behind after the
production ones are upgraded, what was the point of the whole thing?

[JS]

Very good question actually...

Can I build an RC33 branch from source?

[Jeff Hamilton]

No, the 1.1 code line is a continuation of 1.0 from before the tree
was open sourced and has not been released directly. All of the
changes that went into 1.1 were integrated into the cupcake tree
though.

-Jeff

[mattelacchiato]

So do I have any chance to update my dev phone to v1.1 and build the
latest android on it?

Matthias

On Feb 6, 5:37 am, Jeff Hamilton <j...@android.com> wrote:
> No, the 1.1 code line is a continuation of 1.0 from before the tree
> was open sourced and has not been released directly. All of the
> changes that went into 1.1 were integrated into the cupcake tree
> though.
>
> -Jeff
>