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Dianne Hackborn  
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 More options Jan 7 2010, 10:39 pm
From: Dianne Hackborn <hack...@android.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 19:39:06 -0800
Local: Thurs, Jan 7 2010 10:39 pm
Subject: Re: Nexus One for platform development?

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Shawn Brown <big.coffee.lo...@gmail.com>wrote:

> >  We do understand the value of what you are asking
> > for.  It is one of our goals, but frankly it is not at the top of the
> > list and we would not have held off on shipping Nexus One if we could
> > not release every bit of the source code.
> Thank you for confirming that Google tells HTC Android will have
> bluetooth and that is what HTC tells consumers and we buy the phones
> but you are too worried about your handset getting out to market so
> you and HTC can't be bothered providing the bluetooth that HTC says on
> it's sites in many different countries for many different handsets is
> available.

*blink*  Ooookay...  and the connection between Mike's comment, and your
rant is...?

Honestly, at this point it just looks like you have a big axe to grind.  So
fine, grind away, but it is not going to help anyone and it is certainly not
worth spending further time on this discussion.

(And in response to your later comment -- no, we are not going to spend time
back-porting features like Bluetooth from newer platforms to older ones.
 Given a choice between doing that and improving the current platform, well
it just isn't any choice.)

--
Dianne Hackborn
Android framework engineer
hack...@android.com

Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails.  All such
questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and
answer them.


 
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Shawn Brown  
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 More options Jan 7 2010, 10:57 pm
From: Shawn Brown <big.coffee.lo...@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 12:57:09 +0900
Local: Thurs, Jan 7 2010 10:57 pm
Subject: Re: Nexus One for platform development?

> (And in response to your later comment -- no, we are not going to spend time
> back-porting features like Bluetooth from newer platforms to older ones.
>  Given a choice between doing that and improving the current platform, well
> it just isn't any choice.)

My "rant" as you so inelegantly put it got me the information that I
needed.  Now if you at Google were a little more forthcoming with
information then perhaps I wouldn't have to ask the way I did.  I so
do apologize.

Thank you for your time.

Shawn


 
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DonFrench  
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 More options Jan 12 2010, 4:20 am
From: DonFrench <dcfre...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 01:20:37 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 12 2010 4:20 am
Subject: Re: Nexus One for platform development?
Shawn,

I also bought a Nexus One with the understanding, based on a spec that
I read, that it had support for RFCOMM.   I have been trying to find
the site where I read this but haven't located it yet.  Can you
help?

Don

On Jan 6, 7:10 pm, Shawn Brown <big.coffee.lo...@gmail.com> wrote:


 
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Matthias Granberry  
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 More options Jan 12 2010, 4:52 pm
From: Matthias Granberry <matthias.granbe...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 15:52:54 -0600
Local: Tues, Jan 12 2010 4:52 pm
Subject: Re: Nexus One for platform development?
http://developer.android.com/reference/android/bluetooth/package-summ...

On Jan 12, 2010, at 3:20 AM, DonFrench wrote:


 
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DonFrench  
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 More options Jan 12 2010, 5:35 pm
From: DonFrench <dcfre...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:35:43 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 12 2010 5:35 pm
Subject: Re: Nexus One for platform development?
Thanks but I don't see where there is any mention on this page of
Nexus One support of RFCOMM or the SPP profile.  Shawn says that he
saw specs or was given the information that Nexus One would support
RFCOMM or the SPP profile and I also read a spec that had this claim.
Did HTC or Google ever make that claim publicly?  If so, I would be
interested in seeing it because I also bought a Nexus One under the
same mistaken impression based on something that I read that claimed
that there was such support.  The page I read MIGHT have been this one
http://www.mobiledia.com/phones/google/nexus-one.html but I am not
sure.   I realize that this page is neither from Google or HTC and if
it is the source of my costly mistake, I am the one at fault for not
making sure it was correct.  But one wonders where these people (and
Shawn) got this bit of misinformation.  Like Shawn, I am distressed at
having purchased a phone under a false impression.

Don

On Jan 12, 1:52 pm, Matthias Granberry <matthias.granbe...@gmail.com>
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Shawn Brown  
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 More options Jan 17 2010, 2:11 am
From: Shawn Brown <big.coffee.lo...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 16:11:16 +0900
Local: Sun, Jan 17 2010 2:11 am
Subject: Re: Nexus One for platform development?

>  Shawn says that he
> saw specs or was given the information that Nexus One would support
> RFCOMM or the SPP profile and I also read a spec that had this claim.

Public HTC claims:

1)
Specifically, the mytouch claims rfcomm support.
http://www.htc.com/us/support/t-mobile-mytouch-3g/help/bluetooth
What version of Bluetooth does my device come with? close
Your device comes with Bluetooth v2.0 with EDR. Supported profiles
GAP, RFCOMM, HFP, HSP, and A2DP.

2)
and so does the magic
http://www.htc.com/ca/support/magic-rogers/help/bluetooth
What version of Bluetooth does my device come with? close
Your device comes with Bluetooth v2.0 with EDR. Supported profiles
GAP, RFCOMM, HFP, HSP, and A2DP.

3)
and so does the G1
http://www.htc.com/us/support/t-mobile-g1/help/bluetooth
 What Bluetooth profiles are supported now?  close
    Version 2.0 with EDR.
    Profiles: GAP, RFCOMM, HFP, HSP

It's in their user manuals - for instance:

http://member.america.htc.com/download/Web_materials/Manual/HTC_Touch...

I can find nothing specifically from HTC that the Nexus One supports
rfcomm, but I bet they are the source of the article you saw.

Well generally, it is beyond dispute that HTC advertises Bluetooth 2.0
in all it's devices.  Only in Japan could I find information stating
accurate information on what it really provided.

Looking at the specification of Bluetooth 2.0, I would think any
decent lawyer could make the case that HTC products don't really
follow the specification.
http://www.bluetooth.com/Bluetooth/Technology/Building/Specifications/

Shawn

P.S.  I really don't mean to be a pain in some Google's rear-end.  I
just think the marketing side should keep their word.


 
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