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On 9/4/2012 8:45 AM, dE wrote:
> On Monday, September 3, 2012 9:05:32 PM UTC+5:30, Tim in Boulder wrote:
>
>     Honestly that "differentiation" was mostly awful, but it was what
>     they WANTED from a phone OS, and so they chose Android (except
>     Nokia, R.I.P. [1]).
>
>
> What customization? Extra apps, a bit different UI, extra 
> shortcuts/widgets on the desktops and extra buttons?

Completely custom hardware features. Extra custom APIs for that 
hardware. They DISCOURAGE manufacturers from doing that, but that 
doesn't mean that they don't.
> Linux market share has remained constant for a long time.

You might be right. But (other than Android) Linux isn't taking over the 
world any time soon.

 > The primary reason why people use Linux cause it's GPLd software, 
that's the primary driving force.

And yet, almost every web/start-up developer I know is using an OS X 
laptop. SOME installed Linux on them, but most don't.

> Developers who code for opensource software, have interest in coding; 
> it's not about money, it's about the topic. As a result, you get high 
> quality code and a lot of them. When you hire people who develop 
> solely for money (your average closed source software developer 
> working for a company without no contribution or interest in doing 
> so), you get stuff like Windows and various other MS products.

And I still use Windows, despite hating the fact that I use Windows, 
because it's easier to use and it has software that has features I need. 
Free alternatives -- because there's no profit motive -- typically (with 
a few notable exceptions) satisfy the developers' needs minimally, and 
that's it. If I need something different, or with more sophisticated 
features, I'm stuck with the Windows ecosystem.

Tim

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/4/2012 8:45 AM, dE wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:37e7e3a4-75b8-44dc-895e-1c9af31899d0@googlegroups.com"
      type="cite">On Monday, September 3, 2012 9:05:32 PM UTC+5:30, Tim
      in Boulder wrote:
      <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0;margin-left:
        0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">
        <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Honestly that
          "differentiation" was mostly awful, but it was what they
          WANTED from a phone OS, and so they chose Android (except
          Nokia, R.I.P. [1]).<br>
        </div>
      </blockquote>
      <div><br>
        What customization? Extra apps, a bit different UI, extra
        shortcuts/widgets on the desktops and extra buttons?<br>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    Completely custom hardware features. Extra custom APIs for that
    hardware. They DISCOURAGE manufacturers from doing that, but that
    doesn't mean that they don't.<br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:37e7e3a4-75b8-44dc-895e-1c9af31899d0@googlegroups.com"
      type="cite">
      <div>Linux market share has remained constant for a long time.<br>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    You might be right. But (other than Android) Linux isn't taking over
    the world any time soon.<br>
    <br>
    &gt; The primary reason why people use Linux cause it's GPLd
    software, that's the primary driving force.<br>
    <br>
    And yet, almost every web/start-up developer I know is using an OS X
    laptop. SOME installed Linux on them, but most don't.<br>
    <br>
    <blockquote
      cite="mid:37e7e3a4-75b8-44dc-895e-1c9af31899d0@googlegroups.com"
      type="cite">Developers who code for opensource software, have
      interest in coding; it's not about money, it's about the topic. As
      a result, you get high quality code and a lot of them. When you
      hire people who develop solely for money (your average closed
      source software developer working for a company without no
      contribution or interest in doing so), you get stuff like Windows
      and various other MS products.<br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    And I still use Windows, despite hating the fact that I use Windows,
    because it's easier to use and it has software that has features I
    need. Free alternatives -- because there's no profit motive --
    typically (with a few notable exceptions) satisfy the developers'
    needs minimally, and that's it. If I need something different, or
    with more sophisticated features, I'm stuck with the Windows
    ecosystem.<br>
    <br>
    Tim<br>
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